Origins of Autism and possible uses by STS-oriented entites
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shijing
The Living Force
Hi Tony,
I can understand the frustration you feel when faced with a condition like autism -- there's a lot of diverse information out there about it, much of it inconclusive and/or contradictory; it can be frustrating when you try hard to find an answer and the people you are paying to help you aren't able to provide you with a direct solution.
Regarding asking the Cs about this, there is a general principle that questions are asked only when we've exhausted all of our options in figuring out the answers to a question ourselves. The idea is that we are trying to learn to rely as much as we can on our own efforts, and not rely on the Cs for easy answers, which would inhibit our individual and collective growth. This can be difficult sometimes, when we've spent a lot of time and energy looking for answers, but in the end there may still be lessons to be learned in the process, as painful as it is at times.
That being said, there may be something of interest to you in Richard van Konynenburg's work connecting autism and CFS -- I posted a video of one of his talks here earlier today, and I'll place a link below where you can read more about it:
http://phoenixrising.me/research-2/glutathione-depletionmethylation-blockades-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/glutathione-depletion-methylation-cycle-block-a-hypothesis-for-the-pathogenesis-of-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-by-richard-a-van-konynenbury-ph-d
The following part is particularly relevant:
As for the involvement of STS entities? I suppose it depends on whether or not they could and would create specific genetic mutations which result in the problems discussed in the paper and videos linked to above, or whether those mutations would arise merely through chance. Regardless of the answer to that, I hope this information may be helpful to you.
Tony said:
I can understand the frustration you feel when faced with a condition like autism -- there's a lot of diverse information out there about it, much of it inconclusive and/or contradictory; it can be frustrating when you try hard to find an answer and the people you are paying to help you aren't able to provide you with a direct solution.
Regarding asking the Cs about this, there is a general principle that questions are asked only when we've exhausted all of our options in figuring out the answers to a question ourselves. The idea is that we are trying to learn to rely as much as we can on our own efforts, and not rely on the Cs for easy answers, which would inhibit our individual and collective growth. This can be difficult sometimes, when we've spent a lot of time and energy looking for answers, but in the end there may still be lessons to be learned in the process, as painful as it is at times.
That being said, there may be something of interest to you in Richard van Konynenburg's work connecting autism and CFS -- I posted a video of one of his talks here earlier today, and I'll place a link below where you can read more about it:
http://phoenixrising.me/research-2/glutathione-depletionmethylation-blockades-in-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/glutathione-depletion-methylation-cycle-block-a-hypothesis-for-the-pathogenesis-of-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-by-richard-a-van-konynenbury-ph-d
The following part is particularly relevant:
As for the involvement of STS entities? I suppose it depends on whether or not they could and would create specific genetic mutations which result in the problems discussed in the paper and videos linked to above, or whether those mutations would arise merely through chance. Regardless of the answer to that, I hope this information may be helpful to you.
Minas Tirith
Jedi Council Member
Tony said:
You didn't click on the links, did you?
All of them are medical studies:
https://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/in-brief/2013/cognition-and-behavior-diet-makes-autism-mouse-friendly
Ketogenic diet improves core symptoms of autism in BTBR mice.
Ruskin DN, Svedova J, Cote JL, Sandau U, Rho JM, Kawamura M Jr, Boison D, Masino SA.
PLoS One. 2013 Jun 5;8(6):e65021. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0065021 [Add to Citavi project by DOI] . Print 2013.
PMID:
23755170
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/gluten-free-ketogenic-diet-with-mcts-reverses-autism-and-eliminates-seizures/
Autism and dietary therapy: case report and review of the literature.
Herbert MR, Buckley JA.
J Child Neurol. 2013 Aug;28(8):975-82. doi: 10.1177/0883073813488668 [Add to Citavi project by DOI] . Epub 2013 May 10. Review.
PMID:
23666039
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The ketogenic diet as a treatment paradigm for diverse neurological disorders.
Stafstrom CE, Rho JM.
Front Pharmacol. 2012 Apr 9;3:59. doi: 10.3389/fphar.2012.00059 [Add to Citavi project by DOI] . eCollection 2012.
PMID:
22509165
[PubMed]
You find more here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=autism+ketogenic+diet
You can ask her directly, sometimes questions from forum members are being dealt with in the sessions.
I checked and couldn't find anything on autism, so how do you expect us to provide a ready-made answer? When you read the transcripts, there are more or less two reasons for pathological conditions that stand out: Diet/Lifestyle and Karma.
M.T.
Tony
The Force is Strong With This One
I'm sorry MT. Thanks for sharing but I just don't have much faith in medical studies, trials on rats, reports etc when it comes to autism. There are too many variances to be able to conduct any worthwhile test in my opinion.
The whole change of diet sounds like good common sense and I can believe that it would make a difference to anyone. The difficulty with parents who have to work and bring up an autistic child is having the extra time and energy to pretty much make every meal and snack from scratch. Then you have the fussy eating habits to deal with etc. Only this type of parent knows what I mean and I don't expect anyone to try and understand what it is like. Life is extremely challenging as it is.
The gluten free diet would work great for someone who has a big supportive family, where time and money isn't an issue.
The whole change of diet sounds like good common sense and I can believe that it would make a difference to anyone. The difficulty with parents who have to work and bring up an autistic child is having the extra time and energy to pretty much make every meal and snack from scratch. Then you have the fussy eating habits to deal with etc. Only this type of parent knows what I mean and I don't expect anyone to try and understand what it is like. Life is extremely challenging as it is.
The gluten free diet would work great for someone who has a big supportive family, where time and money isn't an issue.
Starlight
Jedi
Hi Tony,
I'm going to share with you what we have been through. Hope this will help.
Our son was 11 years old when he was diagnosed with ASD. He is high functioning. Now he is 13.
We found that diet plays a significant role in his temperament. He reacts negatively to any food colouring. I remember him being hyper and can't control his outburst whenever he had even a single M&M's. The whole family now is on High Fat Low Carb, Gluten Free and Paleo diet for quite some time now. Because of the fact that he is high functioning and 11 then, we exposed him to a lot of knowledge about autism. The whole family watched Temple Grandin, the movie. After watching that, he literally lits up as he could connect with Temple. He now can explain to us how his brains work, and how he perceive the world around him in his own words.
There is a very good book called "The Imprinted Brain" by Christopher Badcock that you may want to read to understand more on the mechanics of an autistic brain.
You mentioned about your son throwing tantrums. Please understand that your son is 3. Normal kids throw tantrums at 3, what more those with ASD. There could be sensory overload. And when he is 3, he can't tell you as yet what bothers him the most. You may have to guess. It could be the sound. It could be the smell. It could be skin sensitivity. But the problem is, when they are at level 10, it is quite hard for them to calm down. Hugs works perfectly for our son. The trick is to have the calming energy as well. Autistic kids are known to go from 1 - 10 in a second. So it is for the parents to be aware of the sensitivity and manage the surroundings.
When he is older, you can teach him awareness. Our son knows exactly when something is annoying to him. He knows his own sensitivity. He becomes aware of the noise level, the crowd, the hardness of the surface of his bed (yup, even that!). So he will start counting backwards and take deep breaths in between numbers. It work wonders!
We also found that sending him to a centre where the teachers and personnel are trained in handling those with ASD very helpful. Our son was at the centre for 1 and half years. Now he is back at a main stream school. So far so good!
On your question whether Autism may be used by STS entities, IMHO, it is as open as much as normal people may be used by STS entities.
I'm going to share with you what we have been through. Hope this will help.
Our son was 11 years old when he was diagnosed with ASD. He is high functioning. Now he is 13.
We found that diet plays a significant role in his temperament. He reacts negatively to any food colouring. I remember him being hyper and can't control his outburst whenever he had even a single M&M's. The whole family now is on High Fat Low Carb, Gluten Free and Paleo diet for quite some time now. Because of the fact that he is high functioning and 11 then, we exposed him to a lot of knowledge about autism. The whole family watched Temple Grandin, the movie. After watching that, he literally lits up as he could connect with Temple. He now can explain to us how his brains work, and how he perceive the world around him in his own words.
There is a very good book called "The Imprinted Brain" by Christopher Badcock that you may want to read to understand more on the mechanics of an autistic brain.
You mentioned about your son throwing tantrums. Please understand that your son is 3. Normal kids throw tantrums at 3, what more those with ASD. There could be sensory overload. And when he is 3, he can't tell you as yet what bothers him the most. You may have to guess. It could be the sound. It could be the smell. It could be skin sensitivity. But the problem is, when they are at level 10, it is quite hard for them to calm down. Hugs works perfectly for our son. The trick is to have the calming energy as well. Autistic kids are known to go from 1 - 10 in a second. So it is for the parents to be aware of the sensitivity and manage the surroundings.
When he is older, you can teach him awareness. Our son knows exactly when something is annoying to him. He knows his own sensitivity. He becomes aware of the noise level, the crowd, the hardness of the surface of his bed (yup, even that!). So he will start counting backwards and take deep breaths in between numbers. It work wonders!
We also found that sending him to a centre where the teachers and personnel are trained in handling those with ASD very helpful. Our son was at the centre for 1 and half years. Now he is back at a main stream school. So far so good!
On your question whether Autism may be used by STS entities, IMHO, it is as open as much as normal people may be used by STS entities.
Tony
The Force is Strong With This One
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I can understand the frustration you feel when faced with a condition like autism -- there's a lot of diverse information out there about it, much of it inconclusive and/or contradictory; it can be frustrating when you try hard to find an answer and the people you are paying to help you aren't able to provide you with a direct solution.
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Thanks for understanding Shijing. My frustration must be really obvious. Thanks for the links also, I'll check them out.
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I can understand the frustration you feel when faced with a condition like autism -- there's a lot of diverse information out there about it, much of it inconclusive and/or contradictory; it can be frustrating when you try hard to find an answer and the people you are paying to help you aren't able to provide you with a direct solution.
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Thanks for understanding Shijing. My frustration must be really obvious. Thanks for the links also, I'll check them out.
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Minas Tirith
Jedi Council Member
Tony said:
No harm done. I fully understand your difficult situation.
I would like to offer you the following:
Let's say the Cs are asked about your son in one of the next sessions and they would answer "Yes, he is under direct STS influence".
What would change in your perspective?
What would you do?
What would change is that you would have a huge responsibility lifted from yourself. "Sheesh, he's under attack and there is nothing I can do anyway." "I can't help him, it's the way it is, we have to see it as a learning curve". Judging from your last posts this is a little how you already feel, don't you?
I remember a session in the 90s where a question is asked about someone with psychological difficulties. The Cs answer that this person has an implant that brings about all this weird stuff he is experiencing. A participant of the session then asks if he has such an implant as well and, after this is answered in the positive, why it doesn't do him any harm. The answer is that he, in contrast to the other person, has knowledge which renders the implant ineffective.
In every of your last posts you come up with an argument why something offered wouldn't work. That's fine, nobody here wants to push you into anything. It's all on a purely Take-it-or-leave-it-basis (in fact it took me two years to become convinced that the Keto-diet works).
The excerpt from the session above, however, shows that, even if you are under attack, you can counter it by being open to knowledge. It doesn't mean resigning to the fact that your son is the way it is because STS forces want it so.
M.T.
Tony
The Force is Strong With This One
[quote author=Minas Tirith]
Let's say the Cs are asked about your son in one of the next sessions and they would answer "Yes, he is under direct STS influence".
What would change in your perspective?
What would you do?
M.T.
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I would understand his behavior a lot better. I would see my sons challenging behavior as a way of purposely making myself or my wife, upset or angry, hence making us the perfect dinner for these STS entities.
Maybe I should just see it that way now, for protection. It's very hard but if we don't have a negative reaction when things get tough then these negative entities may go elsewhere for dinner lol.
Maybe they are using my son to create the perfect negative environment for themselves. An autistic child from day one can really effect every area of your life. It's sad to say, but it's like the perfect curse to ruin a normal family life!
Sorry in my last post I quoted a comment the wrong way.
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Let's say the Cs are asked about your son in one of the next sessions and they would answer "Yes, he is under direct STS influence".
What would change in your perspective?
What would you do?
M.T.
[/quote]
I would understand his behavior a lot better. I would see my sons challenging behavior as a way of purposely making myself or my wife, upset or angry, hence making us the perfect dinner for these STS entities.
Maybe I should just see it that way now, for protection. It's very hard but if we don't have a negative reaction when things get tough then these negative entities may go elsewhere for dinner lol.
Maybe they are using my son to create the perfect negative environment for themselves. An autistic child from day one can really effect every area of your life. It's sad to say, but it's like the perfect curse to ruin a normal family life!
Sorry in my last post I quoted a comment the wrong way.
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Tony
The Force is Strong With This One
We really do love our son though and I don't mean to make him sound bad.
He is progressing better than all the other children at his therapy center so we are really proud of him. It is the best type of training school for autistic children to go to in Australia (most expensive too!). 10 months of intensive therapy has brought him up to speed with neuro typical kids his age in a lot of areas, not all.
The most amazing thing is he can read certain books, spell all the basic colors and animals, count to 100, repeat the whole alphabet, sing songs (and in different languages), remember road directions, etc and he only turned 3 in Jan! He has a photographic memory and possibly perfect pitch hearing!
We are just wishing for things not to be so difficult all the time. I really feel for the parents whose children are a lot more affected than mine and who don't respond well to therapy.
He is progressing better than all the other children at his therapy center so we are really proud of him. It is the best type of training school for autistic children to go to in Australia (most expensive too!). 10 months of intensive therapy has brought him up to speed with neuro typical kids his age in a lot of areas, not all.
The most amazing thing is he can read certain books, spell all the basic colors and animals, count to 100, repeat the whole alphabet, sing songs (and in different languages), remember road directions, etc and he only turned 3 in Jan! He has a photographic memory and possibly perfect pitch hearing!
We are just wishing for things not to be so difficult all the time. I really feel for the parents whose children are a lot more affected than mine and who don't respond well to therapy.
Minas Tirith
Jedi Council Member
Tony said:
Tony, did you read Starlight's post here and Foofighter's in this thread?
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34509.new/topicseen.html#new
M.T.
celestialvisionz
Padawan Learner
Dr. Rima from the Natural Solutions Foundation Reports on the possibility that Autism
is created through vaccines so that the neo-aristocrats can build a world of drones.
Here is her video:
is created through vaccines so that the neo-aristocrats can build a world of drones.
Here is her video:
Tony, I have no doubt that you are exploring every avenue for help for your family, so here's another one which may or may not interest you.
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http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Diseases-Hulda-Regehr-Clark/dp/1890035017/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279865374&sr=1-1
The Cure for All Diseases: With Many Case Histories Paperback – Illustrated, January 1, 1995
by Hulda Regehr Clark (Author)
262 customer reviews
ISBN-13: 978-1890035013 ISBN-10: 1890035017 Edition: 1st
Buy New Price: $23.74
Unquote"
I have a copy and the good doctor (She was a microbiologist) had a couple of case histories on pages 263, 264 and 266, which may be of interest to you. She is mainly into getting the toxins and microbes out of the system, in particular for autism: lead poisoning and contaminated chicken and eggs. Please note I have no financial or pecuniary interest in this whatsoever.
"Quote from
http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Diseases-Hulda-Regehr-Clark/dp/1890035017/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279865374&sr=1-1
The Cure for All Diseases: With Many Case Histories Paperback – Illustrated, January 1, 1995
by Hulda Regehr Clark (Author)
262 customer reviews
ISBN-13: 978-1890035013 ISBN-10: 1890035017 Edition: 1st
Buy New Price: $23.74
Unquote"
I have a copy and the good doctor (She was a microbiologist) had a couple of case histories on pages 263, 264 and 266, which may be of interest to you. She is mainly into getting the toxins and microbes out of the system, in particular for autism: lead poisoning and contaminated chicken and eggs. Please note I have no financial or pecuniary interest in this whatsoever.
Sol Logos
The Living Force
Tony said:
You'll get a clearer picture of what to expect reading through the forum guidelines, as it sounds like you haven't, not in detail at least.
Autistic children in my experience working with some are highly sensitive to their environment, they most likely pick up on your frustrations for example even if not expressed and act out on those. Out of curiosity is that your experience?
Tony, I know that you said that you were "trying" to reduce MSG and gluten in your diet and that is good because there is evidence that gluten and casein have bad effects on people with autism. But you can't just remove some gluten/casein because even just a little has a bad effect on people. It has to be a complete removal, and that does not mean to use gluten-free foods as they are just as bad a eating gluten itself.
Also, gluten and casein can take up to 6 months to be eliminated completely from the body. The best results from eliminating all gluten and casein are after that 6 month time period. There just isn't a magic pill for these kinds of things.
Sott.net has quite a few articles on this subject. In the search engine on SOTT put "+gluten +autism" (without the quotation marks, but with the plus signs) in the search engine and it will bring up quite a few articles on this. Here are three to get you started:
http://www.sott.net/article/264705-Boy-recovers-from-autism-by-removing-dairy-gluten-Strong-evidence-links-vaccines-to-autism
http://www.sott.net/article/248121-Gluten-The-Hidden-Killer
http://www.sott.net/article/131320-The-Age-of-Autism-Gluten-clue-from-Case-2
.
Also, gluten and casein can take up to 6 months to be eliminated completely from the body. The best results from eliminating all gluten and casein are after that 6 month time period. There just isn't a magic pill for these kinds of things.
Sott.net has quite a few articles on this subject. In the search engine on SOTT put "+gluten +autism" (without the quotation marks, but with the plus signs) in the search engine and it will bring up quite a few articles on this. Here are three to get you started:
http://www.sott.net/article/264705-Boy-recovers-from-autism-by-removing-dairy-gluten-Strong-evidence-links-vaccines-to-autism
http://www.sott.net/article/248121-Gluten-The-Hidden-Killer
http://www.sott.net/article/131320-The-Age-of-Autism-Gluten-clue-from-Case-2
.
