ouija table

[Phill4]

letters would read:

Q: any messages?
A: H a n d s o n t h e w h e e l
Q: what?
A: N o t r i d i n g w i t h y o u bye....

 

[Mikey]

possible use ouiya panel in the truck, can I do it alone?

I don't know. What does the instruction manual say that came with it?

 

[goyacobol]

possible use ouiya panel in the truck, can I do it alone?

I don't know. What does the instruction manual say that came with it?

Data,

Every time I see your moniker I think of the Star Trek Data. :) This answer sounds like the original Data. So logical! Why not just check the manual? Duh!

Anyway these responses were so good I couldn't help laugh a little but not at boucles58 for asking the question. I have a software version of I Ching and have been interested in the pendulum. But I have only used the I Ching three times and the pendulum requires more research. I have come to similar conclusions about questioning why I need use these "tools" to learn or know my subconscious. I do think the more you realize they are only tools and have inherent risks in some ways, the more you think they may not be the best choice for making choices.

On my way to finding that certain quote I found this which I think relates:

Session 10 June 1995

A: Let us stop you right there. Do you not see how discussion, and, as we have frequently referred to
it, "Networking," is an extremely valuable tool.

Well, here is another one I just found along the way:

December 31, 1997:

Q: (A) I am asking myself about what I suspect and I suspect that he was silenced like Marinov. Is
that the case?
A: Intuition is a necessary and valuable tool in trailblazing.

But as far as tools this was what I originally was looking for the beginning question was about a Reki symol:

Session 30 March 2002

Q: (V) Well, I have used them, not to a great extent. The one that I have used the most is the Rama symbol which is used to dispel
or expel negative energy. Does this symbol do what they claim it does?
A: Do you think that a symbol can control your consciousness, or the consciousness of another?
Q: (V) I guess I've been thinking it's a tool just as this is a tool (holds up symbol displayed earlier). No I don't think a symbol can
control consciousness...when it's put that way. But I want to say that I think they can be used as tools also. Not to be right or
anything but this my thinking at this time.
A: What quality of an individual would have to be present to set the effect of a symbol against consciousness?
Q: (V) I don't understand that. (L) I think they are saying that the presence of a negative energy implies the presence of a negative
consciousness. It's either the consciousness of the individual who is experiencing it or it is the consciousness being projected from
somebody else. And if one or the other of those is the condition - say for example: if you had negative energy that was being sent to
you from someone else, and you wanted to set this symbol against that negative energy, what quality would have to be present in
you in order to make that work? (V) A lack of negativity. (L) I don't think so. You already have negativity right? So you're going to
use the symbol to make it go away assuming it was sent on you. So what do you have to have to make the symbol work? (V) A
conscious effort? (L) Faith. You have to believe in the symbol. And if you believe in the symbol then you are putting the power in
something outside of you, you don't believe that you have the ability to stand against the negative consciousness. On the other hand,
if the consciousness of negativity is your own, and you believe a symbol can stand against your own negativity, you haven't inquired
into where the negativity comes from. (A) You see a tool is something which you must know exactly how it operates, because
otherwise it's not a tool; you are the tool of something else - the originator of the tool who may not have your best interests at heart.
So you must exactly know, and have precise knowledge of, the tool if it is to be a tool. So a tool is a projection - an extension - of
what is in you.
A: Otherwise you are the tool of the tool

The above is how I have come to look at such "tools".

I don't mean to digress and get too serious and I really appreciate the examples and pictures others found. The "mirth" was good for me and I hope boucles58 enjoyed them as lighthearted in a good way and not to think we didn't take the question seriously. :)

 

[MusicMan]

Seems to me that the casting of lots, or ouija could be used to cover people's indecisiveness in decision making, such that if anything goes wrong as a result, they can always blame 'the gods', instead of standing up and making an executive decision themselves.

That said, it is very interesting (to me) to see how things like kinaesthetics work, and observe that it could be a force for good.
Not that I have used it..

 

[Chu]

(A) You see a tool is something which you must know exactly how it operates, because
otherwise it's not a tool; you are the tool of something else - the originator of the tool who may not have your best interests at heart.
So you must exactly know, and have precise knowledge of, the tool if it is to be a tool. So a tool is a projection - an extension - of
what is in you.
A: Otherwise you are the tool of the tool

The above is how I have come to look at such "tools".

Thanks for this! It is really true, I think. Another way to look at it in this context would be that, when tools are handed by people who aren't competent enough in how they work, they can be very dangerous (a chainsaw for example). They are absolutely great and useful, but only if handled safely. In the case of a ouija board, being prepared involves not only lots of studying and reading, but also lots of work on the self beforehand. Being able to see the unseen and not be taken in, for example, is a key element, our "protection goggles". :)

 

[Thebull]

possible use ouiya panel in the truck, can I do it alone?

I don't know. What does the instruction manual say that came with it?

Data,

Every time I see your moniker I think of the Star Trek Data. :) This answer sounds like the original Data. So logical! Why not just check the manual? Duh!

Anyway these responses were so good I couldn't help laugh a little but not at boucles58 for asking the question. I have a software version of I Ching and have been interested in the pendulum. But I have only used the I Ching three times and the pendulum requires more research. I have come to similar conclusions about questioning why I need use these "tools" to learn or know my subconscious. I do think the more you realize they are only tools and have inherent risks in some ways, the more you think they may not be the best choice for making choices.

On my way to finding that certain quote I found this which I think relates:

Session 10 June 1995

A: Let us stop you right there. Do you not see how discussion, and, as we have frequently referred to
it, "Networking," is an extremely valuable tool.

Well, here is another one I just found along the way:

December 31, 1997:

Q: (A) I am asking myself about what I suspect and I suspect that he was silenced like Marinov. Is
that the case?
A: Intuition is a necessary and valuable tool in trailblazing.

But as far as tools this was what I originally was looking for the beginning question was about a Reki symol:

Session 30 March 2002

Q: (V) Well, I have used them, not to a great extent. The one that I have used the most is the Rama symbol which is used to dispel
or expel negative energy. Does this symbol do what they claim it does?
A: Do you think that a symbol can control your consciousness, or the consciousness of another?
Q: (V) I guess I've been thinking it's a tool just as this is a tool (holds up symbol displayed earlier). No I don't think a symbol can
control consciousness...when it's put that way. But I want to say that I think they can be used as tools also. Not to be right or
anything but this my thinking at this time.
A: What quality of an individual would have to be present to set the effect of a symbol against consciousness?
Q: (V) I don't understand that. (L) I think they are saying that the presence of a negative energy implies the presence of a negative
consciousness. It's either the consciousness of the individual who is experiencing it or it is the consciousness being projected from
somebody else. And if one or the other of those is the condition - say for example: if you had negative energy that was being sent to
you from someone else, and you wanted to set this symbol against that negative energy, what quality would have to be present in
you in order to make that work? (V) A lack of negativity. (L) I don't think so. You already have negativity right? So you're going to
use the symbol to make it go away assuming it was sent on you. So what do you have to have to make the symbol work? (V) A
conscious effort? (L) Faith. You have to believe in the symbol. And if you believe in the symbol then you are putting the power in
something outside of you, you don't believe that you have the ability to stand against the negative consciousness. On the other hand,
if the consciousness of negativity is your own, and you believe a symbol can stand against your own negativity, you haven't inquired
into where the negativity comes from. (A) You see a tool is something which you must know exactly how it operates, because
otherwise it's not a tool; you are the tool of something else - the originator of the tool who may not have your best interests at heart.
So you must exactly know, and have precise knowledge of, the tool if it is to be a tool. So a tool is a projection - an extension - of
what is in you.[/b
A: Otherwise you are the tool of the tool

The above is how I have come to look at such "tools".

I don't mean to digress and get too serious and I really appreciate the examples and pictures others found. The "mirth" was good for me and I hope boucles58 enjoyed them as lighthearted in a good way and not to think we didn't take the question seriously. :)

A great point Goyacobol we definitely don't want to end up a unwitting tool of a negative entity. I have also enjoyed the light hearted side of the thread and would like to re-iterate the hope that Bouncles did to.

Goyacobol you mentioned Data from Star Trek and this made me giggle. Mentioning this in jest so no offence meant. The picture on your profile I think resembles Jean Luc Picard from Star Trek. I have often thought your words carry his wisdom ;D the Captain and Data together I'm very grateful for that. ;D

 

[Mikey]

Data,

Every time I see your moniker I think of the Star Trek Data. :) This answer sounds like the original Data. So logical! Why not just check the manual? Duh!

:) I admire Data from Star Trek. And I admit that sometimes I strive to become more like him: He's logical, knowledgeable, his thinking not clouded by emotions, and he strives to become less of a machine and more human.

 

[PERLOU]

J'en ai eu une quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune mais je n'ai jamais osé m'en servir tant cela me faisais peur, je crois que j'ai bien fait, je ne sais même plus ce qu'elle est devenue mais je ne l'ai plus c'est certain et j'en suis bien aise...

I had one when I was much younger, but I never dared to use it as it did frighten me, I think I did well, I do not even know what happened to her but I did not see for sure and I am glad ...

 

[Deleted member 11729]

possible use ouiya panel in the truck, can I do it alone?

That would be an interesting take on "texting while driving". Not sure what the cops would say to you if they pulled you over.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

Don't laugh, it HAS been done! Except this is like the bluetooth/hands free version:

you guys are hilarious! where did you found this? ;D ;D ;D

possible use ouiya panel in the truck, can I do it alone?

That would be an interesting take on "texting while driving". Not sure what the cops would say to you if they pulled you over.

I would tell them that that is my new navigation device. :D

hahahahaaaa

 

[goyacobol]

Data,

Every time I see your moniker I think of the Star Trek Data. :) This answer sounds like the original Data. So logical! Why not just check the manual? Duh!

:) I admire Data from Star Trek. And I admit that sometimes I strive to become more like him: He's logical, knowledgeable, his thinking not clouded by emotions, and he strives to become less of a machine and more human.

I also admire the character Data portrays. It is interesting how he sometimes has difficulty understanding human emotions. I guess it shows the complexity of the human machine vs the android. There are many movies and even TV shows (EXTANT) now that explore the interface of humans with not so mechanical machines. Of course there are some who favor the Trans-humanism direction for our future. I reminds me of the Archons described by the Gnostics.

 

[Moonbird]

J'en ai eu une quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune mais je n'ai jamais osé m'en servir tant cela me faisais peur, je crois que j'ai bien fait, je ne sais même plus ce qu'elle est devenue mais je ne l'ai plus c'est certain et j'en suis bien aise...

I had one when I was much younger, but I never dared to use it as it did frighten me, I think I did well, I do not even know what happened to her but I did not see for sure and I am glad ...

I also had a Ouija board as a kid (for a very short time). I received it as a birthday gift. Never did get to use it though because my mother threw it out before I had a chance. Good thing!

 

[Thebull]

J'en ai eu une quand j'étais beaucoup plus jeune mais je n'ai jamais osé m'en servir tant cela me faisais peur, je crois que j'ai bien fait, je ne sais même plus ce qu'elle est devenue mais je ne l'ai plus c'est certain et j'en suis bien aise...

I had one when I was much younger, but I never dared to use it as it did frighten me, I think I did well, I do not even know what happened to her but I did not see for sure and I am glad ...

I also had a Ouija board as a kid (for a very short time). I received it as a birthday gift. Never did get to use it though because my mother threw it out before I had a chance. Good thing!

We dabbled at a very young age on home made Ouija boards. I don't even remember the reason we decided to do it. Also had a go in my twenty's. A stupid thing to do and incredibly scary at a young age. I had many sleepless nights after this.

I wouldn't go near it if I could turn back the clock and after gaining an understanding from the forum how dangerous they can be. I've never really considered how much damage they did at the time, food for thought for sure!

 

[PERLOU]

Merci pour vos messages Moonbird et Thebull, notre instinct nous a sauvé en nous inspirant de la crainte envers cette planchette...

Thank you for your Moonbird Thebull and messages, our instinct has saved us by inspiring us to fear this board ...

 

[boucles58]

amazing, very fruitful discussions and fun ... people, thank you very much ... just really where you find those beautiful pictures of ouija boards and police officers ... You made my day but also prompted me to revise attitudes... you are excellent team, my Hats ...
I did not call a week, had an accident, I fell range in the left foot, blue and swollen, pain less - intuition whispered to me not to call the emergency services ... with the help of Reiki and prayers still driving ...