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This is a video about the birth of a tree: http://www.tuxboard.com/naissance-dun-arbre/ :)
 
It takes 8 months for acorns to grow above the ground? It's faster than I thought. :wow:
 
It's neat how it sort of stretches or flips its leaves up and down, slowly. It's almost like each leaf is doing the Eiriu Eolas "cat" stretch. :P

EDIT: Oops, I forgot to say, this is one of the most beautiful time lapses of plant growth that I've seen. Simply amazing that we get to see such a long process on our time scale.
 
Hi All,

Nice little video!

It reminded me of a TV documentary series David Attenborough made for the BBC about 15y ago - 'The private life of plants'. It's on DVD nowadays. You can Google the title and it seems also available on Amazon. Plenty of timelapsed sequences on a whole variety of plants and trees. Super highly recommended when you have never seen those... A real treat!
 
Psalehesost said:
Note: 1D would be "inanimate" matter; plants are 2D, so the subject is actually that of our "2D friends".

Thanks for pointing that out, Psalehesost. For some reason, my mind also wants to think of 2D as limited to the animal kingdom.
 
perhaps plants are the "organic portals" of 2D that help in the transference from 1d to 2d. This is probably a stretch.

it is interesting to compare a tree to a bacteria in terms of density/consciousness/soul. My mind is kind of undecided here. Both are second density I think... They are 'born' and 'die' and reincarnate in the same way we think about has humans. but distinctly different.
 
wetroof said:
perhaps plants are the "organic portals" of 2D that help in the transference from 1d to 2d. This is probably a stretch.

it is interesting to compare a tree to a bacteria in terms of density/consciousness/soul. My mind is kind of undecided here. Both are second density I think... They are 'born' and 'die' and reincarnate in the same way we think about has humans. but distinctly different.

The thought of something equivalent to OPs for 1D to 2D transition made me think of viruses - they contain DNA and/or RNA (the foundation of organic life, said to be the difference between 1D and 2D), but it's hard to say whether or not they are "alive" in the way organic life is as such, being - as I've often read and heard it described, though perhaps it could be somewhat more complicated than that? - just "shells" containing it for injection into host cells.

EDIT: Apart from it just being speculation, I'm quite unsure about this idea. I think it may be more dynamic and complicated than a specific "OP-like" being between 1D and 2D - looking at the multiplicity of 2D forms compared to 3D, and the large variety of "group souls" if each species has one, and the variety of 1D (many kinds of inanimate matter), I think the transition could also be very variegated in its forms.

As for plants, the Ra material suggests that some plants may evolve to 3D candidates while in plant form, even that there is some plant-like 3D life on some other planets (much like we are animal-like) - just to throw that in as well.
 
O Yes I remember it. It was about tree like beings living on other planets.
First I was looking for it in the C's sessions but I couldn't find it.
Psalehesost thank you to pint it out. :)
 
Psalehesost said:
As for plants, the Ra material suggests that some plants may evolve to 3D candidates while in plant form, even that there is some plant-like 3D life on some other planets (much like we are animal-like) - just to throw that in as well.

This reminds me of the session about the bug creatures eating humans. And it was asked if they had bugs on their planet. And the C's said that they are the bugs.
 
Psalehesost said:
Apart from it just being speculation, I'm quite unsure about this idea. I think it may be more dynamic and complicated than a specific "OP-like" being between 1D and 2D - looking at the multiplicity of 2D forms compared to 3D

Is there any reason to think that their aren't as many 3D 'forms' as 2D 'forms'? Perhaps, being 3D, our vision is limited and we take as similar what is vastly different - much like a tree thinking that grass is the same as it is since it grows right next to it and is alive and affected by water/light and the interference of humans. Perhaps, from a higher vantage, we'll observe humanity (or the 3D world) as this vast - vast - combination of different 'forms', which was, when we were humans, seen as 'the same' from our limited viewpoint? That's all speculation, but as long as we were speculating... ;) :wizard:
 
anart said:
Psalehesost said:
Apart from it just being speculation, I'm quite unsure about this idea. I think it may be more dynamic and complicated than a specific "OP-like" being between 1D and 2D - looking at the multiplicity of 2D forms compared to 3D

Is there any reason to think that their aren't as many 3D 'forms' as 2D 'forms'? Perhaps, being 3D, our vision is limited and we take as similar what is vastly different - much like a tree thinking that grass is the same as it is since it grows right next to it and is alive and affected by water/light and the interference of humans. Perhaps, from a higher vantage, we'll observe humanity (or the 3D world) as this vast - vast - combination of different 'forms', which was, when we were humans, seen as 'the same' from our limited viewpoint? That's all speculation, but as long as we were speculating... ;) :wizard:

2D: multiplicity of outer forms, 3D: multiplicity of inner forms. There's a reason Gurdjieff had an "inner animal" for everyone! ;)
 
This is similar to what I was going to post but I scrapped it in order to think more, approaching infinity.

I think there is something ideal about the human biology, in its adaptation to the earth. And this kind of makes sense in that some of 3D is on the path to transition beyond the physical realm.

At the same time I am not ruling out possible other biologies for other 3d life. there is two theories my brother told me. That on other planets life could be extremely different. or that evolution is in a sense 'optimal' (i forget the terminology) and that life would look similar on other planets. Well I guess I am leaning towards the latter due to what the C's have to say--but I imagine different biologies could be optimal on different planets--and you could have bird-like 3d beings--for example.

To what Psalehesost was saying--I agree the virus could be interesting to look at. There is the debate of whether it is living or not. so this seems like a candidate for a bridge between 1-2d (if we can look at it like that.

At the same time I still can't resolve the difference between plants and animals (and both being second density). I'm sure biology knowledge is helpful here--but maybe it is not too necessary to figure this out. Indeed, the lord of the rings example (the tree beings) is interesting in light of this. Some how I doubt thought that there could be a tree-like animal being. Of course evolution knowledge is helpful here. On earth I believe there were plants (algae perhaps) before bacteria or virus's. So this perhaps says something.
 
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