Our 1D Friends

Psalehesost said:
Note: 1D would be "inanimate" matter; plants are 2D, so the subject is actually that of our "2D friends".

hmm...
950107
A: Okay, stop, whoa! A review session follows: Who is 1st density?
Q: (L) Rocks and minerals, right?
A: And?
Q: (L) Plants?
A: Yes.
Now, what awareness do you suppose they have of you?
 
Approaching Infinity said:
anart said:
Psalehesost said:
Apart from it just being speculation, I'm quite unsure about this idea. I think it may be more dynamic and complicated than a specific "OP-like" being between 1D and 2D - looking at the multiplicity of 2D forms compared to 3D

Is there any reason to think that their aren't as many 3D 'forms' as 2D 'forms'? Perhaps, being 3D, our vision is limited and we take as similar what is vastly different - much like a tree thinking that grass is the same as it is since it grows right next to it and is alive and affected by water/light and the interference of humans. Perhaps, from a higher vantage, we'll observe humanity (or the 3D world) as this vast - vast - combination of different 'forms', which was, when we were humans, seen as 'the same' from our limited viewpoint? That's all speculation, but as long as we were speculating... ;) :wizard:

2D: multiplicity of outer forms, 3D: multiplicity of inner forms. There's a reason Gurdjieff had an "inner animal" for everyone! ;)

Just read this in Wave 5:

I realized with absolute horror that this was exactly the case with human beings, though it occurred at a different level - humans were an interface between the strictly material and ethereal realms, and it was though them that the energies of prey and predator manifested at the theological level. From the strictly human perspective, such a realization was monstrous. The psychological and spiritual environment in which we live is the infrastructure of the theological reality which is accurately represented in the wild world in which animals live out similar dramas. "As above, so below, the ancient teachings have repeated for millennia, and I realized that this was part of what they intended to convey. When they tell us that the Great Secret can be learned from Nature, they weren't kidding! ...

I could instantly see that nearly all of humanity was in a terrible predicament by being unaware of this infrastructure of theological prey and predation. In the animal kingdom, who was who and what was what in terms of predators and prey was pretty easy to see because they look different and their behaviors are out in plain view. But in the human dynamic, it is masked from us. And it seemed to be masked for a reason: the masking is utilized to separate the herd, to divide and conquer.
 
Ellipse said:
Psalehesost said:
Note: 1D would be "inanimate" matter; plants are 2D, so the subject is actually that of our "2D friends".

hmm...
950107
A: Okay, stop, whoa! A review session follows: Who is 1st density?
Q: (L) Rocks and minerals, right?
A: And?
Q: (L) Plants?
A: Yes.
Now, what awareness do you suppose they have of you?

Music of the plants - Live duet
Published on Apr 3, 2016
This is a live musical improvisation.
The plant is connected to the U1 and I am playing my Anantar (koto-kampura).
The U1 device allows plants to produce sounds and to make music. It does so by measuring the electrical resistance of vegetable tissues and transducing it into a MIDI signal (Musical Instruments Digital Interface). The MIDI signal then controls a synthesizer that produces the actual sound.

At first, it might be difficult to assimilate the idea that in the end the music produced by the plant is not only an automatic outcome of this electrical connection, rather a sort of "awareness" of the plant was also involved.
This is what the researchers in Damanhur (the developers of the U1 device) have found out in their forty years research. They say that after some time of being exposed to their own sounds, plants seem to become aware that the sound is coming from them and they start modulating it intentionally.
I witnessed this myself years ago, while rehearsing for a live performance. I found myself spending hours playing piano together with a plant and I was witnessing the slow development of the process. The subtle changes in the plant's music in response to the sound of the piano and its own sound was becoming more and more evident to me.

The classic book 'The secret life of plants' is a good read. It can be a good starting point to gain information on unusual and fascinating experiments and research on the consciousness of plants.
In a time frame that spans from the mid 1950s to the late 1970s there was a booming interest in the understanding of plant consciousness.
Unfortunately our scientific investigation modality shows all its primitiveness when the only thing people can come up with is to threaten or hurt living beings to observe their reactions.

In the 1960s a man named Cleve Backster observed the astounding reactions of different plants when subdued to threatening intentions and behaviours. The plants would 'pass out', showing no sign of the electric activity that was being detected by instruments made of a galvanometer used in conjunction with a Wheatstone bridge and very similar to the polygraph used in lie detection.
Using this system Backster was able to observe behaviour in plants such as detecting the intentions of people in the room, reacting to threatening intentions or behaviour and even reacting with shock when another life form was hurt in the vicinity.

From the mid 1950s Marcel Vogel experimented more in the direction of psychic energy. He was able to observe how plants react to the projection of negative and positive thoughts towards them.
A man named Pierre Paul Sauvin conducted an even more peculiar experiment. He used a toy train to create a mechanism that would give him a considerable electric shock at the end of the train's coarse. He then connected a plant to a with by which the train direction could be reversed. After receiving a first shock, Sauvin ran the train again, this time anticipating the pain of the electric shock. He reported that the plant was able to detect his anxiety and reacted by switching the direction of the train.
In Japan, Dr. Ken Hashimoto, an expert in lie detection, was a pioneer in transducing these electrical signals that the polygraph can read from a plant into sounds. He and his wife reportedly created such a connection with some of their plants, in particular a cactus, that they were able to teach the plant to count numbers.
I personally believe that this last instance has more to do with a deep connection between the minds of the Hashimotos and the plant, rather than with an awareness of numbers by the plant.

For more music of the plants (and not only):
https://soundofgoldenlight.bandcamp.com/

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I enjoy reciting the prayers to my crystals, and find it comforting and energizing. I wonder if we are assisting the development our 1D friends? After all, we are encoding their sleeping consciousness with objective Knowledge.
 
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