Over 200 sheep dead after bear chases them off a cliff in the Pyrenees, France

[Ellipse]

https://www.sott.net/article/357171-Over-200-sheep-dead-after-bear-chases-them-off-a-cliff-in-the-Pyrenees-France

The article is in Earth Changes section. I ask myself what it is doing here. I ask myself too why such information is reported. Bear was introduced in the Pyrenees some years ago and is protected. So nothing surprising a bear try to eat some sheeps.

 

[Laura]

I believe it was included in that category because that is where the editors keep track of many mass dyings of critters that can be attributed to our changing planetary environment. The same category receives articles about strange behavior of critters that might be influenced in other ways, such as changing psychic or psychological frequencies. So, I suspect that this item was put there for lack of any other specific place to put it because it loosely fit a couple of criteria and was, in itself, moderately interesting.

The "experts" say that the sheep were running from a bear, but no one actually witnessed that. I think it is a bit odd to make such a claim. How do we know the bear didn't come along afterward and the sheep were spooked by something else?

 

[Cosmos]

I think it is a bit odd to make such a claim. How do we know the bear didn't come along afterward and the sheep were spooked by something else?

Yes it is an odd claim that can't be proved and thus it might well have been something else altogether.

 

[angelburst29]

The article was published on Sat, 22 Jul 2017. It goes on to state, "bodies were found last Sunday at the foot of a cliff just over the border in Spain." It further states, The rest of the large flock was missing after dispersing over the mountains while fleeing the attack." Local authorities sent experts to examine the scene during the week and they concluded that the sheep had been running away from a bear.

I grew up in a farming community that had it's fair share of Black Bears. They can be problematic and in some incidences, lead to deadly encounters, especially around mating season but they rarely attacked livestock. The investigation into the dead sheep was conducted "days" after the event and the weather in the Pyrenees mountains can be unpredictable.

http://www.iberianadventures.com/weather-on-our-mountain-trips-in-the-central-pyrenees/

Mountain weather is notoriously unpredictable and the Pyrenees are no exception!

Generally, in this part of the range, winds blow from the humid Atlantic north, creating cooler, cloudier and wetter conditions on the French side. The southern-facing Spanish side, where most of our walking takes place, sits in the rain shadow and enjoys a much better climate, usually dry and sunny during the summer, although during July and August thunder storms often develop late in the day.

Although a bear attack can't be ruled out, I'm more inclined to suspect the incident was created by a "weather event" or something that created a high impact explosion, like a sonic boom or lightning strike? Sheep have acute hearing and are prone to "instantly scatter" away from heavy percussion and the source of the vibration. Many of the sheep were found to have dispersed over the mountains. I doubt, a bear attack would create that type of a reaction?

On the other hand, by claiming it was a Bear attack, the farmer is to be compensated for his loss?

"The sheep's owner will be compensated for each of the 209 animals found dead, which is standard practice in such cases as part of the deal made between the government and farmers when brown bears from Slovenia were introduced in the late 1990s."

So, with that last statement "on compensation" in mind, I agree with the article being placed in the Earth Changes section.

 

[Gawan]

https://www.sott.net/article/357171-Over-200-sheep-dead-after-bear-chases-them-off-a-cliff-in-the-Pyrenees-France

The article is in Earth Changes section. I ask myself what it is doing here. I ask myself too why such information is reported. Bear was introduced in the Pyrenees some years ago and is protected. So nothing surprising a bear try to eat some sheeps.

Most often many articles contain other categories in itself and as I would understand the main drive was that sheep and animals are involved and is most often a category of earth changes. Still we don't know what happened there and what really drove the sheep down the cliff, because also other animals behaved strangely in recent years.

There is one recent session where similar behavior was mentioned: Session 15 October 2016:

A: Dog is strong in physical and instincts.

Q: (Niall) The dog might attack someone.

A: Yes

Q: (L) That's entirely possible. In fact, I think that's what we see a lot in those stories we put on SOTT. All these different dogs that are attacking people. They get entities… attachments. And something is making them more susceptible.

(Galatea) Or animals in zoos that turn on their caretakers.

A: Yes. We warned of this.

Q: (L) So if you're gonna have a dog, it's best to have one that has instincts that are very strongly pro-human to begin with in order to put a layer of protection between you and the possibility of an entity attack through an animal?

A: Yes

 

[Joe]

by claiming it was a Bear attack, the farmer is to be compensated for his loss

Indeed, I think that fact alone is enough to cast at least some doubt on the bear attack theory. Any farmer in the Pyrenees with sheep dead from unknown causes, i.e. where they were found dead with no evidence of animal attack, would most likely try to push the "bear said boo!" angle. These kinds of government/EU subsidies and compensation have been exploited by farmers and others across the EU for decades.

 

[Gawan]

by claiming it was a Bear attack, the farmer is to be compensated for his loss

Indeed, I think that fact alone is enough to cast at least some doubt on the bear attack theory. Any farmer in the Pyrenees with sheep dead from unknown causes, i.e. where they were found dead with no evidence of animal attack, would most likely try to push the "bear said boo!" angle. These kinds of government/EU subsidies and compensation have been exploited by farmers and others across the EU for decades.

According to one Spanish news agency fur from a bear had been found on one sheep and will get analyzed. But how it got on the sheep is still open and I don't know how it could be possible, because if a bear was that close it could have mauled the sheep and further traces (blood, sheep, etc.) should be there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/23/bear-chases-200-sheep-over-cliff-edge-france-spain

The Spanish news agency Europa Press said bear fur had been found on one of the dead sheep and would be analysed to try to establish exactly what had happened.

Although the French government will compensate the farmer for his loss, the incident has provoked an angry response from the local branch of the French farmers’ federation.

“Pastoralism – which protects biodiversity and keeps the mountains alive – is not compatible with the reintroduction of large predators,” said the Confédération Paysanne de l’Ariège.

 

[Ellipse]

The article now incorporate comments done here.

 

[Yupo]

Indeed, I think that fact alone is enough to cast at least some doubt on the bear attack theory. Any farmer in the Pyrenees with sheep dead from unknown causes, i.e. where they were found dead with no evidence of animal attack, would most likely try to push the "bear said boo!" angle. These kinds of government/EU subsidies and compensation have been exploited by farmers and others across the EU for decades.

Agreed. Follow the money, as in most things.
The story reminded me of the very sad scene in Far From the Madding Crowd. Such a loss.

 

[angelburst29]

There's a report of 12 monkeys dying in a cluster in India. It's suggested - maybe a tiger "scared them to death"? Blaming a tiger sounds much like the event (above) of blaming a bear for the sheep's deaths? Is it possible, a micro burst or some form of an electrical charge killed them?

The bodies of 12 monkeys lying side by side were found in an Indian forest, raising concerns among locals.

Scared to Death... Literally: 12 Monkeys Mysteriously Die in India (Video)
https://sputniknews.com/environment/201709121057327927-india-monkeys-mysterious-death/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ji7miGPZT4 (0:37 min.)

A dozen monkeys were found dead by employees of the Indian Forest Service in one of the villages of the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. They suspected that the animals might have been poisoned or had died from some unattended infection. To find out the real cause of the simians' death, their remains were taken to a veterinary clinic, where a panel of experts conducted a post-mortem examination.

An autopsy revealed no traces of poison in the monkeys' bodies; no injury marks were found on them either. However, all the monkeys had clots in their hearts, which means they died as a result of a simultaneous heart attack.

According to experts, who checked nearby areas on September 5 and found pugmarks of an adult tiger near the place where the monkeys were discovered, the big cat may have scared the animals to death. Local residents also claimed to have heard a tiger growl in the forest at the supposed time of their death.

Checking local weather for September 5 in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, it states - 96* Mostly cloudy with a t-storm?
https://www.accuweather.com/en/in/khairi/3282972/september-weather/3282972