personal waves

[mugacoffee]

I've been thinking lately about waves and individual people. I've been experiencing things happening in waves and you know the say 'eveything comes in three's' but I wonder if it's more exact to say 'everything comes in waves'. I notice things like, I will go through a dry spell of not getting new clients and then there will be a small wave of clients then if things go wrong it too comes in a waves as if there is this invisible ocean.

It kinda makes sense to me and this wave the C's talk about sounds like a collective wave for all of us!

Has similar stuff like this been talked about before on the forum?

Jamie

 

[Julius]

I like the invisible ocean idea, it exists indeed!
Sometimes we are adrift, and there are some mean hidden sharks we can't see but only notice the ripple they cause as they come at us.
Other times the water is warm and cozy, and everything seems right were it belongs under the sun.

 

[Psalehesost]

Mainly, this brings to mind statistics: If something is random, it will not be completely uniform, but rather change will include random bursts. Think of noise - if you listen to or analyze random noise, it contains both higher frequencies (small, short-lasting fluctuations) and lower frequencies (larger, more long-lasting fluctuations).

This may not be all - and probably will not seem so meaningful - but I think it is true enough, only there may possibly also be some meaning to what seems random that we cannot presently perceive.

 

[Buddy]

I don't know that it has been discussed in those terms, but like OromNom, I do think the 'invisible ocean' is an apt metaphor for how everything is connected at a deeper level than what we perceive with the main senses.

The phrase, "quantum-level-driven macro version of evolution's 'selection' mechanism" comes to mind, if that makes any sense.

What's more exciting is hunting for the drivers; like talking to one of those new clients about what's going on in the industry during that period of time. There might be hints available about the next wave.

 

[Rich]

Mainly, this brings to mind statistics: If something is random, it will not be completely uniform, but rather change will include random bursts. Think of noise - if you listen to or analyze random noise, it contains both higher frequencies (small, short-lasting fluctuations) and lower frequencies (larger, more long-lasting fluctuations).

This may not be all - and probably will not seem so meaningful - but I think it is true enough, only there may possibly also be some meaning to what seems random that we cannot presently perceive.

Likewise. It made me think of the classic 'waiting for the bus and three come at once' or 'the toast always lands butter side down' and Murphy's law. We can read a great deal of significance into events when statistically they are not but not ruling out there are other forces at play we are not aware of. It could indeed be waves but I always try and look for a simple explanation for patterns that aren't immediately obvious if at all. In your case with clients, depending on what your business is, there could be real reasons for busy periods like changes in the weather or local news.

 

[SMM]

I like the invisible ocean idea, it exists indeed!
Sometimes we are adrift, and there are some mean hidden sharks we can't see but only notice the ripple they cause as they come at us.
Other times the water is warm and cozy, and everything seems right were it belongs under the sun.

This idea seems plausible - particularly the ripple effect. I like it also.. can interaction then be said to be consequent of amplitude of significance given by 'observer'? Some aspects of these tides will seem simple/obvious whilst others more symbolic or beckoning tumult.

Mainly, this brings to mind statistics: If something is random, it will not be completely uniform, but rather change will include random bursts. Think of noise - if you listen to or analyze random noise, it contains both higher frequencies (small, short-lasting fluctuations) and lower frequencies (larger, more long-lasting fluctuations).

This may not be all - and probably will not seem so meaningful - but I think it is true enough, only there may possibly also be some meaning to what seems random that we cannot presently perceive.

Likewise. It made me think of the classic 'waiting for the bus and three come at once' or 'the toast always lands butter side down' and Murphy's law. We can read a great deal of significance into events when statistically they are not but not ruling out there are other forces at play we are not aware of. It could indeed be waves but I always try and look for a simple explanation for patterns that aren't immediately obvious if at all. In your case with clients, depending on what your business is, there could be real reasons for busy periods like changes in the weather or local news.

Statistically according to..? That part just left me curious. I agree with what you're saying.
At times it crosses my mind that patterns or relative events, hypothetically, do seem to occur by the myriad or in triads at least then sort of go through a state of inactivity. I want to call it correlation or positive/negative feedback but there's probably another term more fitting for it.

 

[Rich]

Statistically according to..? That part just left me curious. I agree with what you're saying.
At times it crosses my mind that patterns or relative events, hypothetically, do seem to occur by the myriad or in triads at least then sort of go through a state of inactivity. I want to call it correlation or positive/negative feedback but there's probably another term more fitting for it.

By statistically there I just mean the probability of events happening in general if that makes sense. For example if we take toast, the probability of it landing butter side down in reality maybe 50/50. Because it is more traumatic to us, psychologically, we remember face down occurring more often than it landing butter side up, so incorrectly despair that it Always lands butter-side down. The same would probably be true of the frequency with which new clients join you. If you plotted new clients over time it would probably look random, not nothing, nothing, nothing, 3, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, 3. But because we have this 'things happen in threes' thing in mind, when it does occur we may assign more significance to it than how often that actually happens statistically.

I've been trying to find a psychological explanation of this. Availability and impact bias seem along the lines of what I was thinking:
http://www.spring.org.uk/2012/08/the-availability-bias-why-people-buy-lottery-tickets.php
http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/05/why-youre-sucker-for-impact-bias.php

 

[Psalehesost]

I've been trying to find a psychological explanation of this. Availability and impact bias seem along the lines of what I was thinking:
http://www.spring.org.uk/2012/08/the-availability-bias-why-people-buy-lottery-tickets.php
http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/05/why-youre-sucker-for-impact-bias.php

Perhaps the most on-target description is that of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/09/11/the-texas-sharpshooter-fallacy/

Confirmation bias comes to mind as well: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/23/confirmation-bias/

 

[Rich]

I've been trying to find a psychological explanation of this. Availability and impact bias seem along the lines of what I was thinking:
http://www.spring.org.uk/2012/08/the-availability-bias-why-people-buy-lottery-tickets.php
http://www.spring.org.uk/2008/05/why-youre-sucker-for-impact-bias.php

Perhaps the most on-target description is that of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/09/11/the-texas-sharpshooter-fallacy/

Confirmation bias comes to mind as well: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/23/confirmation-bias/

Bullseye ;) Thanks Psalehesost