Phil Schneider, 1995 lectures (4)

GRiM said:
Schneider was found dead in his Wilsonville, Oregon apartment on January 17, 1996.
Interesting date to die.

There is even a web pages dedicated to the "esoteric" dimension of this date :
http://www.rennes-le-chateau-archive.com/le_17_janvier_esoterique.htm
(in French but you can catch most of the meaning)

On this date :
* The famous priest of Rennes le Chateau died [1917]
* Beginning of the operation "desert storm" [1991]
* Saint Rosslin

Where are the meaningful links ?

Obviously there's been a lot of disinfo around the Renne's le Chateau mystery.
 
Axel_Dunor said:
There is even a web pages dedicated to the "esoteric" dimension of this date :
http://www.rennes-le-chateau-archive.com/le_17_janvier_esoterique.htm
(in French but you can catch most of the meaning)

On this date :
* The famous priest of Rennes le Chateau died [1917]
* Beginning of the operation "desert storm" [1991]
* Saint Rosslin

Where are the meaningful links ?

Obviously there's been a lot of disinfo around the Renne's le Chateau mystery.
Dead January 17, 356 of Antoine the Large one, who will become famous Saint Antoine, traditional character in the business of Rennes-The-Castle

Dead January 17, 395 of the Roman emperor Th
 
GRiM said:
Axel_Dunor said:
Where are the meaningful links ?
I dont think I understand what you mean but I hope my editing helped.
You see there are all those important events happening at this same date.

There is also Nicolas Flamel who is said to have finalised the Great Work on the 17th of January 1382.

About meaningful link, I mean that there is obviously something going on with this date but I don't know how / why this specific date is linked to those specific events.

In addition, powers at work like profanity and use smoke screen. So maybe that this guy was assassinated on the 17th of January just to profane this symbolic date and/or to create an event that is irrelevantly linked to the date.
 
Ah, now I get it. I feel a bit stupid now ^_^
Yeah, since I became aware of the whole smoke and mirror tactics used I rarly see things as mere coincidences.
Im impressed that you direcly saw the date, It hadn
 
GRiM said:
Ah, now I get it. I feel a bit stupid now ^_^
Yeah, since I became aware of the whole smoke and mirror tactics used I rarly see things as mere coincidences.
Im impressed that you direcly saw the date, It hadn
 
Probably the best info on Phil Schneider is in the book "The Philadelphia Experiment Murder: Parallel Universes and the Physics of Insanity" by Alexandra Bruce, a friend of mine. (She also wrote: "Beyond the Bleep: The Definitive Unauthorized Guide to What the Bleep Do We Know!?" for which Ark acted as technical advisor on several items.)

After studying the case quite closely, my assessment of the Phil Schneider case is that he was set up to be a tar baby pretty much the same way as Morris Jessup was.

I have written about Jessup and Schneider in the Adventures Series in various places, but the main discussion begins HERE:

Let's talk about death now. Sure, I know, nobody wants to talk about death. But I have in mind some very interesting deaths that ought to be talked about for a lot of reasons.

The first death I want to talk about is the "apparent suicide" of Morris K. Jessup. The problem with Morris Jessup's suicide is that it was too obvious. He was found in his station wagon in a Dade County Park, Florida, on the evening of April 29, 1959. A hose had been attached to the exhaust pipe of the station wagon and looped into the closed interior. The whole set-up had been accomplished during daylight hours, in a public park. Ever since, researchers have said that Jessup's death was the price he paid for getting too close to the truth. You see, Jessup's death is SO apparent a suicide, that everyone just KNEW that it was NOT a suicide. And, of course, as a consequence, an entire mythos was born about something called the Philadelphia Experiment having to do with Time Travel. [...]

One of the most pervasive UFO-human conspiracy stories is that of the Philadelphia Experiment which explicates that, in 1943, the U.S. Navy secretly accomplished the teleportation of a warship from Philadelphia to a dock near Norfolk by successfully applying Einstein's Unified Field Theory.

The story tells us that the experiment began in an attempt to develop radar invisibility, but something unexpected happened: the ship became invisible, and when it returned, several of the crewmen burst into flames, and others had portions of their bodies melded into the steel structures of the ship. Of those who survived, most of them spent the rest of their lives in psychiatric hospitals. That's handy. [...]

The Navy denies the reality of the Philadelphia Experiment, but the rumors persist, and they are very powerful rumors. Researchers continue to hear accounts from eye-witnesses or purported family members of those who died or went insane. I was even told a story about the Philadelphia Experiment by my ex-husband who swore he had heard it from a guy in Key West when he was young. And this was long before I ever knew anything about the mythos of the Philadelphia Experiment proper!

It was the death of Morris Jessup that gave credibility to the rumors of the Philadelphia Experiment. In fact, the "details" of the experiment all began with the series of letters Jessup was purported to have received from a Carlos Allende. When you try to track the story back to its beginnings, you discover that even the story about the purported annotated copy of Jessup's book emerged only AFTER his death as a "rumor" in Washington social circles. The fact that Allende mentioned sodium pentothal in his letters is quite telling. That he was aware of the existence of sodium pentothal at that early date suggests that he was aware of mind control research being conducted by the Navy during the war, which suggests that he was a victim, or a handler of such projects. [...]

So, what do we have? We have someone who purportedly sent some weird letters to Morris Jessup, about which he was reportedly curious, but not terribly excited. All the "impressions" that are attributed to Jessup regarding these letters are from hearsay, AFTER his death. We have a story about the Varo edition of his book, that only emerged as a "rumor" after his death. The rumor was claimed to be from "military circles," as though this would give it credibility. The only people who seem to claim any "inside info" are Riley Crabb and Ivan Sanderson, both of whom claimed to have been in possession of the copy given to Jessup, on which he had made notes of his own. But this copy disappeared, and somehow, there are copies circulated from somewhere because I have two of them. The end result is that, due to this series of rumors, which seem so obviously concocted after Jessup was no longer alive to refute any of it, we have people declaring that Jessup was silenced because he was on the verge of proving that the Philadelphia Experiment really did take place exactly as Carlos Allende described it!

Every detail and element of the Allende story, the Varo edition of Jessup's book, and the purported strange events preceding his death just reeks of manipulation; all of it propagated after he was no longer present to deny any part of the story. After looking into the matter carefully, one gets the strange impression that a dead man was used to create a myth. Or at least, the "right" version of the story - the version that the Powers that Be want everyone to believe. And, at the center of the myth we find Ivan Sanderson and Riley Crabb, who seem to be responsible for spreading the whole story. Later, as a most telling coincidence, a long-time associate of Sanderson, Al Bielek, comes along and breathes new life into the story by creating "Montauk," followed by Phil Schneider, and others.

We come back again to the death of Jessup: a suicide that was so obviously"set-up" to look like suicide, that everyone KNOWS it was murder by persons or agencies unknown. [...]

Nevertheless, the result of all of this is that the Philadelphia Experiment, as explicated by the Carlos Allende letters, and the story about the Varo edition of Jessup's book, is now firmly ensconced as fact in the minds of many people.

On January 17, 1996, Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment. He had been dead for about a week. After a lot of fooling around by the medical examiner, it was decided that Phil had committed suicide by strangling himself with a rubber hose of the medical type. Yeah, right!

Phil was a well known speaker on the patriot and UFO lecture circuit. His main shtick was underground base activities. As a geologist, he claimed to have been involved in the construction of secret government bases, including Area 51 and the base at Dulce, New Mexico. As it happened, for two years before his death, Phil had stated in his lectures that there were constant attempts being made on his life. These attempts were described as staged accidents, running gunfights, loosened lug nuts on his vehicle and so forth. Phil further claimed that his father was a German U-boat captain who had been captured by the Allies and inducted into the U.S. Navy under the CIA's Operation Paperclip program in which Nazis were given new identities and became U.S. citizens.

Loosened lug nuts?

I read that part to my kids - movie buffs all - and they looked at each other and then at me and said: "Yeah, right! The Secret Government according to Homer Simpson." The reader may wish to read Alexandra Bruce's well-researched book "The Philadelphia Experiment Murder," for the many confusing details of Schneider's background and claims that were brought to light which cast doubt on his stories, but still raise confusing issues.

In the end, the question is: was Phil Schneider a crank who took his own life because of paranoid hallucinations, or was he murdered by agents of the government for giving out classified information? Was he murdered to shut him up? Or, could there be another reason: the same reason Morris Jessup was murdered? Were they both murdered to give credibility to stories that were, in fact, FALSE?

Phil's death is seen by conspiracy buffs as proof that what he was saying was true. In the same way, Jessup's death is seen as proof that the claims of Carlos Allende about the Philadelphia Experiment are true. And in both cases, what seems to be an obvious murder poorly disguised as a suicide is the common factor of conviction that persuades the many believers in the stories surrounding the two figures.

The problem is that we all know that those boys in Black Ops can do better than that when they want to! If they want a death to look perfectly natural, if they want to just shut you up, you can be sure that they can do it. By the same token, if they want a death to look like a murder disguised as a suicide, they can do that, too. It is patently absurd for Schneider to have announced on numerous occasions that the secret government had made over a dozen "attempts" on his life. Such agencies do not make "attempts" on a person's life. They do the deed, and it looks exactly the way they want it to look. Don't delude yourself by thinking otherwise. There are occasional "leaks" and "embarrassing" stories about such agencies, but I can just about guaran-damn-tee that they are planned. Nothing like creating a reputation for being a bumbling bunch to cover up the fact that, at the deepest levels, very little bumbling takes place.

What this means is that the deaths of Jessup and Schneider were very likely engineered for the express purpose of promoting disinformation.to inspire belief in something connected to them either after their death, or promoted by them before their death. And if that is the case, then we have to seriously suspect the stories that are propagated in connection with their deaths, and assume that they may be disinformation. [...]

The difference - or similarities - between Marinov's death and the death of Morris Jessup, or even Phil Schneider, have to be carefully considered. In the case of the former two, they were actually working on very similar subjects. Jessup and Marinov were both interested in sources of free energy, and they were both talking about things in ways that drew attention to certain ideas that, apparently are very dangerous to consider. The case of Schneider is more difficult. His "murder" seems to be set up to discredit him in general, or to confirm the Montauk mythos. [...]

We come back to the fact that someone wrote some letters to Morris Jessup about his book on UFOs, including specific mention (in the very first paragraph), of a particular paper of Albert Einstein, which, as it happens, is the wrong paper to follow, and as soon as Dr. Jessup was discovered to have been "mysteriously killed," the story was off and running! And all the researchers have been mis-led ever since, following the wrong paper. And it's all about "free energy," so to say. This should give everyone pause when they read the claims of the many purveyors of New Age Free Energy devices. If you really discover it, you're dead.

When the Philadelphia Experiment story began to lose its appeal because none of the research was panning out, along came the Montauk experiments and the many handy expositors of that scenario, creating new "grail stories" to lead the researchers off into wild, endless, and erroneous speculation.
You ought to read the whole series to get all the info... It's pretty long because I dug up everything I could find and then some. But for ALL the details on Schneider, get Alexandra's book. I think that, at the end, you will agree that his death was "staged" in order to give legs to the Montauk mythos.

And that's not to say that something isn't going on with the Montauk thing, but never underestimate the ability of the PTB to create dust storms and smoke screens.
 
Thank you for the extensive reply. I have orded both books (Books: 16$ but the shipping and handling was 17$) looking forward to get a few more bits of the puzzle.
The reason I find this interesting is that it was partly Phil Scheiders lectures (downloaded) that awakend me to the possibility that all isn
 
Laura said:
Every detail and element of the Allende story, the Varo edition of Jessup's book, and the purported strange events preceding his death just reeks of manipulation;
...and just an observation that the preface in the Varo edition that lays the 'mysterious' groundwork for why the book was published was written by someone named Gray Barker.

As in a carnival - you know - the barkers, the guys who say, "step right up...come on over, sir, show your little lady some fun and try this ring toss".......or, "step right in and see these freaks of nature that will chill your soul", and such.

He's a GRAY BARKER -- come on in, folks, and read this book, it's mysterious, it's scary, it's all linked to the grays, you know, those crazy, odd, pleasant little creatures who keep disrupting your sleep patterns with those pesky abductions...step right up and read about them"

Yep, a gray barker, alright - and stated it plain as day right there in the beginning - I bet they think that kind of thing is hysterical.

Heck, even if there is a man named Gray Barker and he was the one who wrote the preface to the novel, then the 'joke' just indicates yet another level of manipulation - I wonder if the scale-faces chuckle when they think these things up?

Or, maybe, I'm seeing things that have no basis in fact - but, somehow, this time, I kind of doubt it.
 
anart said:
Heck, even if there is a man named Gray Barker and he was the one who wrote the preface to the novel, then the 'joke' just indicates yet another level of manipulation - I wonder if the scale-faces chuckle when they think these things up?
Gray Barker is an author of several books on UFOs and such stuff, including the first book to get into 'men in black' (called "They Knew Too Much about Flying Saucers"). http://tinyurl.com/lnuel

Regardless, he isn't regarded as a particularly accurate source on information.
 
Interesting, do you know if this is his real name? If it is, that is too weird.

;)
 
anart said:
Interesting, do you know if this is his real name? If it is, that is too weird.

;)
As far as I can tell, it was his real name. http://www.as.wvu.edu:8000/clc/projects/graybarker/
 
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