Bluelamp said:I don't think of Thomas as horrible either, George Carlin did a lot of narrating for it. After winning that race, the job Thomas got was not one he was happy about. Other races like Thomas and Bertie and Thomas and Spencer have the loser being gracious. Thomas even gets to lose like with Spencer and the 2nd race with Bertie. (Funny how having kids totally changes your area of expertise for movies/TV).
Of course, don't get me wrong, I like Thomas and especially the voices and structure of dialogues and narration.
As you say, about the area of expertise, If someone would have told me I would be paying attention at cartoons before I had kids...hahah I would send them off!
It is just that if some cartoon 'makes it' to the big media, it makes me nervous and start looking for cues, some are blatant, some are unintended and not so bad, Thomas belongs to the latter category (even at the risk of being totally fooled by warding off...)
I personally enjoy POCOYO, looks "clean" to me.
One case of blatant and outrageus programing is "Cars" and Lighting Mc Queen story. In the movie all of these can be witnessed:
-the starring car transforming out of nothing and totally unrelated into a war plane and starts throwing up missiles to a hord of alien spark plugs that are aphocaliptically causing havoc in the city.
-The starring car dreaming of success and being a 'chick magnet' (literal words)
-a real Trial where the judge sends Lighting to jail and says "I will send you to jail until the jail rots, and then send you to another jail until the jail rots"
-The starring car picturing a party (all out) in a top floor of a luxury hotel from which windows the HOLLYWOOD letters can be seen at the background.
And of course all of the sterotypes (hispanic=rotten cars, tuned cool cars=rap music/gang behaviour, italian cars=bad english/national pride) an overall apology of the american dream as interpreted by the PTB.
All of these in a children movie...go figure, the values and story are the same pattern as in exactly every other hollywood mass production movie.
It is difficult to find independent productions in movies for children.
R