Plane Crashes and Incidents

[ivanb]

Plane carrying 49 people on board crashes in Russia's far east region

A passenger plane with 49 people on board crashed Thursday in Russia’s far east, with no signs of survivors. The burning wreckage was found on a forested slope near Tynda after the flight vanished from…

www.france24.com

 

[Ruth]

Another video from Jeff Ostroff (an engineer) on Air India 171's RAT deployment timestamp. He thinks it most likely deployed 4 seconds after take off based on the peliminary report. (19 minute video).

 

[axj]

Jimmy Dore was aboard a Southwest flight from California that needed to rapidly drop altitude to avoid a collision with a a fighter jet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948841786765705392

 

[Nienna]

Here is a video representation of what happened. the pilot was evading a Hawking Hunter fighter jet belonging to a defense contractor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948900613108236485

Very similar to this previous post:

Delta pilot's 'aggressive maneuver' evades B-52 bomber, prevents mid-air collision in harrowing flight nightmare

Delta pilot’s ‘aggressive maneuver’ evades B-52 bomber, prevents mid-air collision in harrowing flight nightmare

This is a SkyWest pilot, the company I worked for and my husband flies for as a Captain.

Great work crew! The passengers sound like they reacted sensibly too. That’s a huge plus.

Does this happen often where commercial airliners have to evade military/contractor jets:? Or is it a new thing?

 

[seek10]

Another video from Jeff Ostroff (an engineer) on Air India 171's RAT deployment timestamp. He thinks it most likely deployed 4 seconds after take off based on the peliminary report. (19 minute video).

Another Video about the cause of the AI 171 plane crash. This video says, one of the sensor that supposed to monitor whether plane is on the ground or air, 'malfunctioned' and marked it on the ground. Malfunctioned is a wrong word as the sensor is still functioning and too sure of its data. This info. is fed to automated system that didn't allow human intervention. So plane is paralyzed in the mid air- called "system confusion".

It looks Boeing sent a update to the software few days before the crash and DIDN'T mark it as a urgent. It was not clear what this software update supposed to be correcting. It looks another pilot in europe observed the problem and notified Boeing 4 years back, but ignored it as a "statistically insignificant".

Obvious question is what contributed to the sensor misreading the Plane's state? Any cosmic rays on the electronics?

 

[XPan]

Flight AI 171

Maybe the universe is telling us something, like a warning revolving the near and far future. Words who in my opinion go deeper than what meets the eye/ear. Apply that to other automated things in life... like in defense / military installations for example. And God knows what else...

Extract from the above video

"AI Systems too smart to question themselves, too confident to handcontrol back to humans, (and too ridged to survive when reality disagrees)"

 

[rs]

https://www.financialexpress.com/in...f-ai-171-crash-rules-out-pilot-error/3941541/

Interesting article. His analysis and claim is that the RAT deployed before engine shutdown. This means the root cause is an electrical issue. There was an air worthiness directive that was (apparently) not followed up on by the airline. This analysis is consistent with the survivor’s statement that there was an electrical “glitch” just prior to shutdown. This tends to remove suspicion of “pilot error” and place the blame on poor maintenance and the airline has already fired some high level personnel. But also, I’m troubled by Boeing. Why have a design where a leaky toilet can short out a critical electrical system?

If the power goes off this could alias to activating the cutoff switches. It explains the observations better than any other analysis I have read.

 

[Ca.]

Water in the hydraulic fluid has been established as the cause of the F-35 crash in Alaska earlier this year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960604793778659589

 

[ivanb]

WestJet flight 2276, operating from Toronto, experienced a hard landing upon arrival at Princess Juliana International Airport in the Caribbeans.

 

[ivanb]

In Nice, France, a flight from Tunisia was preparing to land on the same runway where another jet was preparing to depart. French aviation investigators are now looking into the close call.

 

[ivanb]

Two planes collide on runway at LaGuardia, NYC

 

[Joe]

This happened a few days ago. Pretty remarkable for "space junk" to hit a moving airliner. First time ever reported apparently. Looks to have broken all three layers of the windscreen. Interesting puncture hole pattern above the window on the fuselage.

More here

https://simpleflying.com/united-pilot-injured-debris-windshield/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980199574795870662

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979419159457923246

 

[Vulcan59]

A B744 cargo airplane, broke apart on landing at Hong Kong airport!

Accident: ACT B744 at Hong Kong on Oct 20th 2025, runway excursion, aircraft broken up in waters

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Another report of the accident published on SOTT.net!

Boeing 747 Cargo Jet Veers Off Hong Kong Runway, Breaks Apart In Water

Flight-tracking website Flightradar24 reports that an Air ACT (ACT Airlines) Boeing 747-481 BDSF (a variant of the Boeing 747 cargo aircraft) veered off the runway at Hong Kong International Airport at 03:53 local time (19:53 UTC) and broke apart...

www.sott.net

 

[Joe]

Update with info from passenger:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980656786630668351

Passenger describes terrifying moments United Airlines Flight 1093 Stuck Mystery Object

A United Airlines flight from Denver to Los Angeles was 36,000 feet over Utah when something struck the cockpit windshield hard enough to injure the pilot and send the plane diving toward Salt Lake City.Passenger Heather Ramsey was recording the sunrise when chaos broke out.“One flight attendant yelled, ‘Get to the back of the aircraft!’ Then the pilot’s voice came over the intercom, ‘We have some bad news. The aircraft has collided with an object.’”

The Boeing 737 MAX dropped 10,000 feet in seconds. Passengers gripped their seats.“We were all holding our breath. You could feel the tension. Everyone was scared.”When it landed, the pilot’s arm was bleeding. The windshield was cracked, one layer fractured, glass fragments scattered across the cockpit, but he still managed to land the plane.

United Airlines released a brief statement:“United Flight 1093 landed safely in Salt Lake City to address damage to its multilayered windshield. Another aircraft was arranged to take customers to Los Angeles, and our maintenance team is inspecting the plane.”The NTSB confirmed the event, calling it a “cracked windscreen during cruise flight near Moab.” They’re now analyzing radar, flight recorder data, and weather conditions. The damaged windshield is being examined in their labs.

The FAA says a collision with space debris is “less than one in a trillion.”

Less than one in a trillion....

Also, coincidentally, over Moab, Utah. Moab is also used for the "Mother of All Bombs"

And "according to the Hebrew Bible, Moab was often in conflict with its Israelite neighbours to the west." And, in the Christian Bible, Moabites are demeaned as incestuous and idolatrous.

I think this might be a good next session question.

 

[Kansas]

The Boeing 737 MAX dropped 10,000 feet in seconds. Passengers gripped their seats.“We were all holding our breath. You could feel the tension. Everyone was scared.”When it landed, the pilot’s arm was bleeding. The windshield was cracked, one layer fractured, glass fragments scattered across the cockpit, but he still managed to land the plane.

Five stars to the pilot!