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Re: Equity Jurisprudence
Hi Dingo,
Only once was court actions taken, in this case a Propane company sent an outrageous bill >$ 3,000 to us in 1999. The tank was leaking and they said they fixed it (valves); they did not. It was a big company and the recourse was looking difficult to counteract; they were damaging credit and the economics of us. A lawyer who we know was consulted and he thought about it and opened an old book of 'Tort' law and said you might want to try this: Interference with Economic Relations. To this day I don't know if it would have worked, it was studied and an argument was made and submitted to the judge and filed against the company. The judge was very excited about this case and the company hired high priced lawyers from Vancouver - they never showed up in court and the judge was so mad he made legal ruling against the company, dismissing all costs owed and ordering them to clear up in writing the Economic Relations with the credit board. It was a strange case because generally one sues when the are owed money not when they owe.
Makes me wonder if this was what was going on with that Tort; in essence asking the judge to decide an Equity Trust matter rather than a At Law matter?
Anyway, these type of Tort laws are old and likely not used much today; it seems it is a minefield of legal devices now that work or don't depending on where you live and what is the chosen modus of law for that area. Legal matters are systems of codes that are difficult to come to terms with as laypersons. At Law sounds like Maritime Law - commercial law of the seas and common to the statuesque of our legal times. :/
Hi Dingo,
Only once was court actions taken, in this case a Propane company sent an outrageous bill >$ 3,000 to us in 1999. The tank was leaking and they said they fixed it (valves); they did not. It was a big company and the recourse was looking difficult to counteract; they were damaging credit and the economics of us. A lawyer who we know was consulted and he thought about it and opened an old book of 'Tort' law and said you might want to try this: Interference with Economic Relations. To this day I don't know if it would have worked, it was studied and an argument was made and submitted to the judge and filed against the company. The judge was very excited about this case and the company hired high priced lawyers from Vancouver - they never showed up in court and the judge was so mad he made legal ruling against the company, dismissing all costs owed and ordering them to clear up in writing the Economic Relations with the credit board. It was a strange case because generally one sues when the are owed money not when they owe.
Makes me wonder if this was what was going on with that Tort; in essence asking the judge to decide an Equity Trust matter rather than a At Law matter?
Anyway, these type of Tort laws are old and likely not used much today; it seems it is a minefield of legal devices now that work or don't depending on where you live and what is the chosen modus of law for that area. Legal matters are systems of codes that are difficult to come to terms with as laypersons. At Law sounds like Maritime Law - commercial law of the seas and common to the statuesque of our legal times. :/
Buddy
The Living Force
Re: Equity Jurisprudence
Dingo, apologies for any seeming bluntness, but, right about now, it should probably be coming into focus that the people who know about this stuff are not going to be talking about it - especially on a public forum and to unknown others. If they did, their motivations would be highly suspect as far as I am concerned.
The question on my mind is: what overall purpose are you pursuing? Scratch that - don't answer - instead...do you think it could be a wiser choice to wait until you have all the useful information together and in a workable format before sharing it? And perhaps even do so in a more private area? Or am I concerned about nothing really?
This is not the safest territory to navigate without signposts and the occasional warning, OSIT. :)
Dingo, apologies for any seeming bluntness, but, right about now, it should probably be coming into focus that the people who know about this stuff are not going to be talking about it - especially on a public forum and to unknown others. If they did, their motivations would be highly suspect as far as I am concerned.
The question on my mind is: what overall purpose are you pursuing? Scratch that - don't answer - instead...do you think it could be a wiser choice to wait until you have all the useful information together and in a workable format before sharing it? And perhaps even do so in a more private area? Or am I concerned about nothing really?
This is not the safest territory to navigate without signposts and the occasional warning, OSIT. :)
tridean
Jedi Master
Gandalf said:
Hi Gandalf,
I agree with Bud that I need to be a lot more knowledgeable with the topic and that yes, it does need to be kept private..in fact...all I could share on this forum, even in a private area is the information about it....even if I was to have a successful application of it in my life, I would not be able to share it on this forum in any section. I realize now the reason I posted my post two days ago was because I thought I saw a connection to the 'temptation to the pot of gold' talked about in historical texts.
Buddy
The Living Force
Dingo, My apologies if I made you paranoid. Unless I have misunderstood you, the procedures and eventually necessary declarations are based on certain still existing legal concepts and rulings that certain people wouldn't want to see publicized. "Ducks in a row" is an important concept here and I wish you all success. :)
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Dingo - it is incredibly rude to delete your posts in a thread where there are responses. In fact, this is behavior that usually results in being banned from the forum. It is completely lacking in external consideration. At this point, it would be helpful to hear from you why you think your posting privileges should not be removed.
tridean
Jedi Master
anart said:
Hi Anart,
I made a couple of errors by posting in the first place. First, I posted information that I have limited knowledge of, second, I wasn't being aware of why I posted it.
Bud was right, that there is a point with this knowledge (i.e. the experiences of using it) that are not allowed to be shared in public and I got scared a bit as I have done in the past when mentioning certain Us politicians on here, which I felt compelled to delete after..
I'm not going to make any more excuses on this..it was wrong of me right off the bat....if I get posting privileges deleted I accept that too.
i apologize to all for my lack of external consideration
Thanks
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Dingo said:
I read the thread before you deleted it and there was zero reason for you to delete it. The people who took the time and made the effort to respond to you in this thread have basically now been left with responses that refer to nothing. It appears that you have let paranoia get the most of you and, in that, forgotten yourself completely. What is to stop you from doing this again in another thread in which others have invested energy and time?
tridean
Jedi Master
anart said:
I don't know Anart. If I say I will never do it again, it will be because of this correspondence between me and you... I could never do it again as I will not forget this episode because this is the first time I have attracted the ire of a moderator on here..I also think it is going to make me think even more before I post...if i was to question myself again about something I wrote my method will be different, I will pm a moderator and ask what I should do about a post I think should be removed.
I don't actually know if it was paranoia as such, yes there was the feeling of oops this is not right in a bit of a scared sense, but now that I've had time to think of it, I think I felt that I was wasting people's time with this stuff.
As for Bud, and Parallax, what can I do guys to make it up to you?
Buddy
The Living Force
Actually, it is I that feels like I owe you something because of what has developed. Perhaps if I had just said nothing or worded my replies differently, this may have been prevented altogether. I don't think I could feel much worse about something I wrote, but it's no one on here's fault. I feel like you owe me nothing, so don't be concerned with me. :)
Nawd
Dagobah Resident
Dingo,
Just as an example, I came to this thread late, (spent the weekend with my dad), to find your post already deleted. But with, what I can assume, are good responces to a question about something that has already been deleted. Who knows, maybe someone else had a good thought or idea to add, but we won't know, because it has been deleted.
You could have had it moved to The Swamp, or not feared mentioning particular people (or a person).
It's just the deleted, no way to network, thing that has me wondering.
There isn't much else to say from this end, because I have no idea of what the question was.
If you are going to post, please be in a way of thinking that considers whatever programs and fears you have.
I don't know how the moderators will respond, but it is worthy of a 'thinking break' as far as anyone who wanted to network but missed it is concerned. In the future I hope you leave your questions in the 'do I need to question this? Is this important, and can I share it without regret? ' corner.
Just as an example, I came to this thread late, (spent the weekend with my dad), to find your post already deleted. But with, what I can assume, are good responces to a question about something that has already been deleted. Who knows, maybe someone else had a good thought or idea to add, but we won't know, because it has been deleted.
You could have had it moved to The Swamp, or not feared mentioning particular people (or a person).
It's just the deleted, no way to network, thing that has me wondering.
There isn't much else to say from this end, because I have no idea of what the question was.
If you are going to post, please be in a way of thinking that considers whatever programs and fears you have.
I don't know how the moderators will respond, but it is worthy of a 'thinking break' as far as anyone who wanted to network but missed it is concerned. In the future I hope you leave your questions in the 'do I need to question this? Is this important, and can I share it without regret? ' corner.
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