Please help me sort my diet out!

[Mr. Premise]

I try to keep it simple–

NO:
Sugar
White Flour
Alcohol
Caffeine

Eat mostly veggies and fruit and some protein.

I've cut down a lot on meat and seem to have more energy.

So why are some people against legumes?

Legumes contain anti-nutrients. It's their self-defense mechanism against
predators. Fruit is mainly poison, not only because of fructose but also because of
all the pesticides.

Legumes also have way too many carbohydrates to make them a staple.

 

[Dirgni]

When you buy something in the supermarket etc. you may want to check the labels. It is amazing what you find on them (e.g. I found sugar in ham and bacon ).

You may want to check the recipes section of the forum for ideas Luke. There are snacks mentioned by Laura with fat / butter / lard rolled into ham or a leaf of lettuce.

Keto Adapted is available as book and for Kindle (when you are in a hurry to get it).

Thank you very much for this thread luke wilson and thank you others for good advice. It is time for me to DO this, too.

 

[Nienna]

I'll follow Laura's guide from the quote gawan posted. Anyways, I have breakfast pinned down. I assume I can also add ham (for those mornings I am feeling especially lazy) as per what Laura said. Is the ham they sell in supermarkets ok??

Regarding honey, I know Laura says to remove honey... is this still the ethos? What's the word on Manuka honey? It has been super good to me..

Ham is okay. Honey, any honey, is sugar. No matter how you may believe it is helping you, it is sugar, so are fruits.

You say that you eat plenty of fats, what kind of fats? Animal fats, coconut oil, or vegetable oils?

Luke, you are always wanting to take the fast approach, by getting answers cheaply by asking questions. One of the most important things the Cs had Laura do, was to do her own research. They have told her that giving answers like handing out candy does not do a person any good because it does not help them to grow. Researching for your own answers helps you to grow. You seem just fine with having everyone else do the work for you and, then, reaping the benefits with no effort on your part. It may be helping you short term, but in the long run, how will that affect you? Ever wonder about that, or does it not really matter to you?

 

[luke wilson]

I had bacon and eggs for breakfast with green tea, no honey!!!

Luke, you are always wanting to take the fast approach, by getting answers cheaply by asking questions.

I didn't know this, if this is how I come across then I'll look to be more conscious about it. I admit I tend to ask some questions where the answers might be obvious or questions where it may appear like I am looking to gain other people's knowledge without going through the trouble that those people went through to get that knowledge.

I suppose what you are saying is that I should ask less questions? I suppose it appears like I am looking to divert from the struggle(?)... I do struggle but maybe not in the right ways.

You say that you eat plenty of fats, what kind of fats? Animal fats, coconut oil, or vegetable oils?

Animal fats... I don't have coconut oil and try and avoid vegetable oils (e.g. sunflower oil etc). Currently I use olive oil to cook but now that you mention it, will look to see (research ;)) if that is acceptable or not. :D

Honey, any honey, is sugar. No matter how you may believe it is helping you, it is sugar, so are fruits.

This is where I have a mental block but again I am aware the hammer has come down and it's a matter of getting over such blocks because these items have sugar. Manuka for me was not a belief, it was results based BUT again, I know the hammer is down on it because of the sugar. I suppose with regard to fruits I'll have to find substitutes for the nutrients present therein... Again, research... ;)

Thanks for highlighting how I come across.

 

[paralleloscope]

Luke, you are always wanting to take the fast approach, by getting answers cheaply by asking questions.

I didn't know this, if this is how I come across then I'll look to be more conscious about it. I admit I tend to ask some questions where the answers might be obvious or questions where it may appear like I am looking to gain other people's knowledge without going through the trouble that those people went through to get that knowledge.

I suppose what you are saying is that I should ask less questions? I suppose it appears like I am looking to divert from the struggle(?)... I do struggle but maybe not in the right ways.

As for Nienna's observation, that's how you often come across to me too, this thread really framing it. It's not that we can't ask questions from the people here who have gained knowledge (that's afterall a central tenet here), there just needs to be a balance of work done by one self too, otherwise it becomes exploitative as well as shooting one self in the foot (as Nienna explained) by not building up the necessary knowledge to support further growth.

I have a tendency to want to ask a question from someone who I suspect has the answer on the tip of their tongue, and I sometimes do, but more often than not, I find that the answer was just one don't-believe-the-predator or creative thought away, like; drawing a map, write some notes to clear up my question or search with a word which isn't exactly what I want but in the general direction. These approaches may at the time of asking seem unfruitful with all the inbuilt distrust of own thinking abilities, but it's merely disempowering programming (early imprints). School does that to us, and narcisistic parents too; making us only trust the outside emotional/ intellectual authority and depriving us of making our own dot connecting. So rather than focusing on asking fewer questions maybe you could strategize to answer your own, in smarter ways. You still get to ask the question to yourself, but before asking others you make some creative efforts to crack it with your own undiscovered talents of creativity. And if you gave it all you got, then there is no reason not to ask the community for help.

 

[Gary]

Luke, you are always wanting to take the fast approach, by getting answers cheaply by asking questions.

I didn't know this, if this is how I come across then I'll look to be more conscious about it. I admit I tend to ask some questions where the answers might be obvious or questions where it may appear like I am looking to gain other people's knowledge without going through the trouble that those people went through to get that knowledge.

I suppose what you are saying is that I should ask less questions? I suppose it appears like I am looking to divert from the struggle(?)... I do struggle but maybe not in the right ways.

Thanks for highlighting how I come across.

I would agree with Nienna and Parallel, you come across to me also as wanting to "take the fast approach".

It's not that we can't ask questions from the people here who have gained knowledge (that's afterall a central tenet here), there just needs to be a balance of work done by one self too, otherwise it becomes exploitative as well as shooting one self in the foot (as Nienna explained) by not building up the necessary knowledge to support further growth.


I have a tendency to want to ask a question from someone who I suspect has the answer on the tip of their tongue, and I sometimes do, but more often than not, I find that the answer was just one don't-believe-the-predator or creative thought away, like; drawing a map, write some notes to clear up my question or search with a word which isn't exactly what I want but in the general direction. These approaches may at the time of asking seem unfruitful with all the inbuilt distrust of own thinking abilities, but it's merely disempowering programming (early imprints). School does that to us, and narcisistic parents too; making us only trust the outside emotional/ intellectual authority and depriving us of making our own dot connecting. So rather than focusing on asking fewer questions maybe you could strategize to answer your own, in smarter ways. You still get to ask the question to yourself, but before asking others you make some creative efforts to crack it with your own undiscovered talents of creativity. And if you gave it all you got, then there is no reason not to ask the community for help.

Cs session 17th May 2014

(Aleana) What about in your daily life? I mean, even if it's just talking about health issues with people... I mean, not forcing on it on them, but just putting things out there just to see what responses you get? Or is it more just confine it to the forum and work as much as you can on SOTT and the forum?

A: The latter is very important in terms of balancing energy you have received. But you can also extend assistance to those around you if they are asking.

Q: (L) Anything else? Is there anything else we need on this topic?

(Chu) No, I mean, I think what they're saying is for example if you're disrespectful to people outside, or you devalue them or whatever, you're also not applying the Work principles. You have to be strategic.

(L) Yeah, external considering and all that.

(Chu) Yeah.

(L) Okay, anything else on that?

A: Many people are not fully aware of the amount of labor that goes and has gone into this network. For this reason they tend not to value lifetimes of work that go into presenting the fundamental lessons of your reality. And, if they do not see the value and return adequate energy, they find blocks in their path.

Apart from all the advice you have already received on this thread, and all the information contained within the diet and health section; try finding a good, local butcher and proceed at your own pace.

So what stuff can I have between these hours?? Preferably also some stuff to snack on in between... (PS I can make some stuff and take in - I am not Gordon Ramsey though so lack above average cooking skills!)

Me too! But boiling a fatty gammon joint makes for a few days of lovely eating. I enjoy simple food wherever possible. :)

 

[Wisteria]

When you buy something in the supermarket etc. you may want to check the labels. It is amazing what you find on them (e.g. I found sugar in ham and bacon ).

Yes! I discovered this also - even in the organic bacon. Why on earth do they feel the need to add sugar to bacon? Utterly ridiculous.

 

[nicklebleu]

When you buy something in the supermarket etc. you may want to check the labels. It is amazing what you find on them (e.g. I found sugar in ham and bacon ).

Yes! I discovered this also - even in the organic bacon. Why on earth do they feel the need to add sugar to bacon? Utterly ridiculous.

I haven't been able to find sugar-free bacon either. An alternative is to buy pork belly and to cut it in thin stripes yourself.

I think that they usually put a small amount of sugar into bacon to 1) counteract the saltiness and 2) as a preservative (together with the salt). Some low-sodium bacon apparently can be found that is sugar-free.

However I don't get hung up too much about it, as the amount is very small - in the case of the brand that I use, it's 1.2g/ 100g of bacon.

 

[Wisteria]

I haven't been able to find sugar-free bacon either. An alternative is to buy pork belly and to cut it in thin stripes yourself.

That's a really great idea. I think I might try it.

I think that they usually put a small amount of sugar into bacon to 1) counteract the saltiness and 2) as a preservative (together with the salt). Some low-sodium bacon apparently can be found that is sugar-free.

However I don't get hung up too much about it, as the amount is very small - in the case of the brand that I use, it's 1.2g/ 100g of bacon.

I found an organic butcher whose bacon has honey added rather than sugar. I know honey isn't great, but I figure it's a lot better than straight out sugar.

Thanks for the explanation. I've wondered why for a while. However I personally believe that salty bacon is an excellent accompaniment to eggs - so it's still very weird to me.

 

[luke wilson]

I got my keto adapted book BUT the delivery guy left me a note saying he left it in the BASEMENT!!!! What BASEMENT?!?!

 

[luke wilson]

I got my keto adapted book BUT the delivery guy left me a note saying he left it in the BASEMENT!!!! What BASEMENT?!?!

Amazon are sending me a new one!!

 

[A Jay]

I got my keto adapted book BUT the delivery guy left me a note saying he left it in the BASEMENT!!!! What BASEMENT?!?!

Amazon are sending me a new one!!

Here's to hoping the next copy makes it into your hands!

Hopefully your first copy made it into the hands of someone that needed it. :)

 

[will01]

Aha! I don't have any dairy... yup, I'm dairy free... :)

I'm not looking for a quick fix.. I'm looking to come up with a menu... My body won't go into cardiac arrest... Really, my health is fine and I already eat a huge amount of fats.. just that I have other stuff as well that I shouldn't.

The thread the post is from is 272 pages AND growing on a regular basis, if I have to go read that WHOLE thread first, I might as well give up right now because I'll be reading it and eating all the junk I am currently at the same time! Can I not read it after I've stopped eating the junk?... It's not being lazy, it's just wanting to know what to remove from my plate and what to add...


Right anyways, so far for breakfast I have

Bacon and Eggs... Tea and Stevia...

Not entirely sure yet if manuka is bad or not. Though reading about it, it sounds like it has some beneficial effects.. but I am not sure if it is in line with paleo. For me, since I started taking manuka, I have never had a cavity. Before manuka, I was making my dentist very rich.

While the LWB and Keto threads are very long Luke, I can only highly recommend that if you intend to change your diet that you do take the time to read them. The experience of multiple amounts of people sharing information as they progressed through dietary changes, is priceless. The recommended books are great as well, but real life experiences are hard to beat. You will find many tips (such as supplements, how to deal with food cravings etc.), which will make the transition to Keto a lot easier.

My own transition was not without problems, yet I did not post any questions in either thread (though by all means do so if needed), as they were answered as my reading progressed. I simply committed to reading a few pages or more each day, depending on the time available.

The previous posts have given you great advice, so best of luck with your diet changes :).

 

[Kamino]

Sorry luke, but to me your question seemed fundamentally audacoius! I'm really surprised so many people answered you constructively but it shows how caring, friendly and patient the growd here is. I really tried to hold back on commenting, but I just happened to read a similar quickfix question of you in the covert depression thread. To me it shows your lack of commitment and understanding of "The (real) Work", as Nienna already pointed out above. Just my 2 cents...

 

[luke wilson]

Sorry luke, but to me your question seemed fundamentally audacoius! I'm really surprised so many people answered you constructively but it shows how caring, friendly and patient the growd here is. I really tried to hold back on commenting, but I just happened to read a similar quickfix question of you in the covert depression thread. To me it shows your lack of commitment and understanding of "The (real) Work", as Nienna already pointed out above. Just my 2 cents...

What is your understanding of commitment of 'The (real) work'? How did you expect people to answer? If you don't mind me asking!

On other news, it appears they delivered my book to a different house.. they guy dropped it in my house and told me so!!

Soooooooo, as of tomorrow, I will have 2 keto adapted books.... obviously, I just need one!

If anyone wants the spare copy, please let me know and I'll send it your way, free of charge!!!