PLEASE HELP WITH THIS ETHICAL QUESTION

SaturnMane said:
I am not a psychic but i would be willing to bet there is not a whole lot of love being exchanged between the individuals in your family. If you really want to help her, change this.

FWIW- I believe celestial visions has come to this forum "out of love" and concern for this difficult situation. To ask for help and advice, thus gaining more insight and 'knowledge', celestialvisionz and her boyfriend can possibly find a way to assist his mother.

"Exchanging love" is far too vague and IMO sounds new agey. I don't see how that tidbit can help this situation.

My 2 cents.

Edit: Wrong word used
 
BrightLight11 said:
SaturnMane said:
I am not a psychic but i would be willing to bet there is not a whole lot of love being exchanged between the individuals in your family. If you really want to help her, change this.

FWIW- I believe celestial visions has come to this forum "out of love" and concern for this difficult situation. To ask for help and advice, thus gaining more insight and 'knowledge', celestialvisionz and her boyfriend can possibly find a way to assist his mother.

"Exchanging love" is far too vague and IMO sounds new agey. I don't see how that tidbit can help this situation.

My 2 cents.

Edit: Wrong word used

I agree. A very cold reply to a sensitive question and a rather disturbing display of self-importance.
 
celestialvisionz said:
The question is, what kind of professional would be the best for her to heal? I will have to do some research myself on it.

You might want to look into intravenous Vit C for cancer as practiced at the Riordan Clinic in Kansas.

http://www.riordanclinic.org/research/research-studies/vitaminc/protocol/
 
Ennio; when you spoke of "to help her find her own process if one exists for her" is absolutely correct.
She is said to be a highly religious catholic and unfortunately I do not think that alternative methods of holistic healing would be best suited for her possibly due to her worldviews- although I am sure it will be suggested for her by his father. Everyone had great answers to this type of question except for the odd explanation of "SaturnMane" due to the lack of comprehending the meaning of what he/she meant. Thank you all again for your inquiries to the healing of his mother. I will research and discover what you all have suggested and go from there.
 
Yes, religious catholic translates to her being authoritarian and relatively closed-minded, though there are always exceptions. Horns of Moses has some interesting things to say about this by the way.

Maybe Perceval's suggestion regarding intravenous vitamin C can be a good one, however, if the woman's husband can find a health practitioner who does this and ALSO projects a traditional western approach in his or her practice. Hope that makes sense.
 
You might want to look into intravenous Vit C for cancer as practiced at the Riordan Clinic in Kansas.
also I have heard that apricot seeds are benefical
 
celestialvisionz, the difficult situation you've shared has brought back memories of my mother's bout with cancer. This is just another perspective on the ethical question based on my experience.

In the late summer of 2000, my mother was diagnosed with lung cancer (she never smoked). There was a tumor encroaching around her pulmonary aorta making it inoperable. After she was diagnosed, my oldest sister and I put together our knowledge of alternative cancer cures and supplements. My older sis could be very persuasive and my Mom was a good patient and took them.... or so we thought. After she passed three months later, my sister took care of going through her place to pack things up, etc. and found little stashes of supplements everywhere; in between cushions, in the back of drawers, anywhere she thought they wouldn't be found.
She had a heart of gold and I'm sure she stopped taking the supplements and began hiding them because she didn't want to hurt our feelings or our efforts to help; they were also probably uncomfortable to keep down.

While we felt we had done everything we could to help her win the battle, we were unaware of the tormented life she was living. Having gotten remarried 18 years prior to her illness, we had suspicions of her husband being kind of creepy, controlling, opinionated and insecure, but this wasn't confirmed until after she passed away.
He had a knack for making my mother feel grateful for him marrying her, saying things like "I don't know how aaaany man (my father) could leave such a woooonderful woman...". I was appalled the first time I had heard this, which was probably at least six years after my parents' divorce, and a few years after she remarried. Plenty of time to heal, yet he wasn't letting her. They were married for 18 years and I recall him saying that to her in front of us at least a half a dozen times, leaving her either in tears or in a uncharacteristic sadness every time. No telling how many times this was repeated in front of other family and friends.

Afterwards, I couldn't help think a psychological wound manifested as a life robbing tumor, a wound not allowed to heal because a knife kept being stabbed into her kind heart. She passed on right before Thanksgiving at a Florida hospital, 1000 miles away from her husband; she didn't want him around her and wanted to die in peace.
After what I've learned since then, I've grown deeply humbled by her unwavering courage to face death with her heart in tact.

I thought compelled to share my experience with you not to suggest something this sinister may be at work, but what I came to understand since then, and that is: we don't know what is written on another soul or what burdens the heart carries, nor how much resilience one has to heal these matters from this life or previous ones.

The best we can do is to help anyway we can... when asked.

Hopefully, your BF can find a way to help his mother proceed with grace and dignity, even if that means finding understanding and acceptance of her decisions.
 
It is a painful situation. In my opinion it is not possible to contravene the will mother will, her autonomy, her free choice as to whether or not to take vitamins and even food, despite how painful it may be for your child. Assuming that a person is autonomous and mentally healthy. It is possible that his decision not to take those vitamins, or accept the advice and family care hide the very negation of the disease or the severity of it. Her mother is perhaps coping process of disease and he appears to shut. The loss of health, like the loss of a loved one, sometimes requires a grieving process and finally acceptance.
Maybe his mother lodge any fear about vitamin intake (pills) or medications that she doesn't confess.
This situation is difficult and painful for her son who feels helpless and guilty for not being able to handle the situation as you would like. Possibly lose a lot of energy and feel frustrated.
I think the son's loving care, patience, rely on competent professionals to help mother and her family in the care and treatment of the disease, and the address it properly.
I hope this words can be of some help.
 
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