Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we don't?

[Meg]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

I live in Texas. The people I have talked to think the economy is in a slump and will bounce back regardless of who is elected. People are angry and there are heated political debates, but revolting hasn't come up(yet). The most heated debates are about money/stock market and the possiblity of electing a black man for president.

One thing I have noticed recently is there is more gun toting. Texas has a conceal/carry law and a few people I know have starting carrying guns, buying guns (and more guns). Some searching led to these articles:

Posted on 09/08/2008 11:56:20 AM PDT by neverdem

Cox East Texas

Gun sales are going boom around the country as gun owners and gun advocates brace for a potential Democrat in the White House for the first time in almost 10 years.

Democrats, meanwhile, say there's no reason to worry that presidential hopeful Barack Obama would attempt to curtail access to most guns, though that hasn't stopped the buying spree.

_http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2077520/posts

and this

By Brady Douglas
KETK NEWS

Story Created: Sep 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM CDT

Story Updated: Oct 1, 2008 at 1:11 PM CDT

TYLER - According to the Associated Press gun sales are up in some parts of the country.

The possible reason is that those in favor of having guns are worried that a potential Democrat in the White House may turn the current gun laws upside down.

In Tyler, places like The Shootist Gun Store, have been experiencing a steady increase in the sales of their handguns and rifles over the past few months.

_http://www.ketknbc.com/home/ticker/28038994.html

Maybe it's from the political hype, but I wonder if there is more to it. Something similar to the movie "V" where the aliens recruited people from the community to help police the citizens...

 

[gwb1995]

As I remember, the C's said that Bush would die in office. I am sorry for not being able to post this quote, ( still challenged on inserting quotes). With all the changes to the US Constitution, since Bush came into office, would this not be a perfect situation for his regime to take control of the US, and impose martial law?

I have been looking for the Hammer to hit for a long time, but maybe I have been looking in the wrong places. I think that many of us can see the possibility of yet another election being stolen. It would be the perfect time for the PTB to step in and take control in a open and direct manner. It is perfect; civil unrest will most certainly follow such a happening, with people already stressed out over the economy, lack of jobs, and the financial crisis. This along with the stories to be posted by the media (Controlled by the PTB) to fan the flames, will make it all too easy. The actual details of what happened will be lost once the Hammer Hits!! It will not matter who won, as Bush will be in control under Martial Law.

I may be way off base on this, but I think something will happen along these lines. If what the C's are telling us is true, then something is going to happen to allow Bush to stay in control! I do understand that all is variable, but I just don't see any change happening that could offset what is already in motion.

my 2 cents,

gwb

 

[Ellipse]

durabone :

"Sarkozy, whose country currently holds the rotating presidency of the European Union, is seeking to overhaul the Bretton Woods system that has governed international finance since the end of World War II."

Imho, be very, very careful with meaning of sentences containing the "S" word.  Do not understand it literally.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

As I remember, the C's said that Bush would die in office. I am sorry for not being able to post this quote, ( still challenged on inserting quotes). With all the changes to the US Constitution, since Bush came into office, would this not be a perfect situation for his regime to take control of the US, and impose martial law?

I don't recall the Cs saying that Bush would die in office. I have however read about the so-called "Presidential Curse" where all Presidents elected every 20th year starting in 1840 have either died or been assassinated (or nearly assassinated) while in office. Maybe the Cs did say Bush would die; if so I'd like to see the context.

 

[PepperFritz]

I don't recall the Cs saying that Bush would die in office....

October 23, 2004 Session

Q: (J) Will there be another terrorist attack in the US soon?

A: Bush does not need one, so no.

Q: (J) Will Bush continue on as President?

A: Until he dies.

Q: (J) Will he be assassinated?

A: Not likely.

Q: (H) Will he try to become a permanent leader, a Furher?

A: Will try.

Q: (H) Is he sick and will he die from his illness?

A: No...

Q: [Discussion about him being made sick or dying from other reasons.]

A: There are many ways to die.

 

[durabone]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

A couple of additions.

Kimber, a sweetheart gun maker, has orders backlogged for
12-16 weeks, depending on product. My buddy says that
their rep reports that demand is un-precedented, the reason
being primarily fears about the economy collapsing and
causing a few nights pandemonium and looting. (3rd party
info, true, but I trust the intermediary)

I agree with most of you about the lack of spirit for a revolt
over the election. But one thing that could bring the curtains
down quickly would be dropping a few bombs on Iran and
declaring marshall law at home. That would spring an intense
revolt. (You didn't really think that with 1-3 million Iranians in
the US that any attack on Iran could occur without marshall
law here to deal with them, did you?)

 

[PepperFritz]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

But one thing that could bring the curtains down quickly would be dropping a few bombs on Iran and declaring marshall law at home. That would spring an intense revolt.

What leads you to that conclusion? What form do you think such a "revolt" would take?

 

[durabone]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

Thanks PF;

Perhaps I should re-phrase:

"But one thing that could bring the curtains down quickly would be dropping a few bombs on Iran and declaring marshall law at home. That "could" spring an intense revolt."

I say this because an attempt by Bush/Cheney to stay themselves in office will likely be met with emotional protests in the US of a magnitude similar or larger to the protests around the attack on Iraq. And in my tongue and cheek way, I say that this could be a perfect way to declare terrorist condition 'red,' and then one of the popular legends of the internet could be tested: "Condition 'red' means suspension of the elections & constitution... True or False?"

The kind of stuff posted over in this thread:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10469.0
"The Real World » Religion » Christian right Obama prophecy"

could certainly be seen as a softener, garnerng support for the
the idea that preventing Obama from filling the Right's worst
nightmares is warranted under any circumstances.

If McCain loses, then it will be a hard sell to spirit him in to office.
On the other hand, a continuance of Bush/Cheney will certainly be
viewed by some as being better than Obama.


db

 

[PepperFritz]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

Thanks PF;

Perhaps I should re-phrase: "But one thing that could bring the curtains down quickly would be dropping a few bombs on Iran and declaring marshall law at home. That "could" spring an intense revolt."

I say this because an attempt by Bush/Cheney to stay themselves in office will likely be met with emotional protests in the US of a magnitude similar or larger to the protests around the attack on Iraq.

Well, protests in the U.S. against the war on Iraq have never been particularly large, nor widespread -- nowhere near the magnitude of those held against the Vietnam War. Within the context of reaction against the government, "revolt" means a violent overthrow of that government. While issues such as election tampering, Bush staying on, the economy, martial law, etc. may well lead to "civil unrest" -- i.e. violent protests through which some portions of the population will express their anger, frustration and despair -- it is extremely unlikely that there will ever be any kind of organized "revolt" against the government. The "sheeple" element will always remain in the majority, supporting the government no matter what it does.

You're dealing with a population that has been gradually desensitized to the outrageous acts of its government; who, rather than face the reality of what is going on, choose to believe that all such actions have been "necessary" on some level and that the government has their best interests at heart. It's like the frog in the pot who does not detect danger when the heat is gradually raised to a boiling point, and therefore does not try to escape.

I'm afraid that any predictions of "revolt" on the part of U.S. citizens is just wishful thinking.

 

[durabone]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

PF; Good one.

I agree, particularly if "revolt" implies more in the way of organized action than simple stamping up and down the pavement in angst.

Your comment about the intensity of the protests against the Vietnam War has been echoed to me by bunch of folk I know here in California who were direct witnesses to those events. I was too young though, and my Mom told me that the 'peace sign' was the "Great American Chicken Foot."

choose to believe that all such actions have been "necessary" on some level and that the government has their best interests at heart.

Probably not everyone. I know of a number of people who are cynical enough that they don't believe that anything that government does is good for them, but that they can't change anything anyway, so they have simply given up.


db

 

[PepperFritz]

Re: Police across the US prepare for civil unrest - what do they know that we do

Probably not everyone. I know of a number of people who are cynical enough that they don't believe that anything that government does is good for them, but that they can't change anything anyway, so they have simply given up.

Yes, its a combination of those who continue to blindly believe in the best intentions of their leaders, and those who see what's going on but do not believe that there's anything they can do to change it. Even the activists who took to the streets to protest the war against Iraq are less likely to do so again in view of the utter lack of effect such protests had.....

 

[Tigersoap]

I don't recall the Cs saying that Bush would die in office....

October 23, 2004 Session

Q: (J) Will there be another terrorist attack in the US soon?

A: Bush does not need one, so no.
Q: (J) Will Bush continue on as President?
A: Until he dies.
Q: (J) Will he be assassinated?
A: Not likely.
Q: (H) Will he try to become a permanent leader, a Furher?
A: Will try.
Q: (H) Is he sick and will he die from his illness?
A: No...
Q: [Discussion about him being made sick or dying from other reasons.]
A: There are many ways to die.

Maybe I am interpreting this incorrectly but while reading "Beelzebub's tales" there is this passage (Chapter28) where Gurdjieff writes about Hasnamuss individual, where the first kind can die in parts before really dying or so I understood it in this way.
This would seem to fit what the C's said unless I make connections where there are none.