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Bidoche

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About 10 years ago, I was introduced to a new concept in world politics called The Simultaneous Policy (http://simpol.org). It caught my attention and I became an adopter. Those involved on the political side tried their hardest to bring this idea to the general public and for a while, they seemed to have made some progress. It's so hard to change the world.

I wrote 3 songs for the organization, but due to the music_mafia, none were broadcast :(

In 2008, I did a series of solo concerts in both Serbia (ex-Yugoslavia) and England (my home country) playing the bass guitar to the electronic music of a French contemporary musician, M. Nomized (http://www.myspace.com/mnomized), to which I added sound clips (triggered via a looper) from various sources (Martin Luther King, Jr., Salvatore Allende, Orson Welles, etc. + my own text relative to the Simultaneous Policy). Audiences were appreciative. All the concerts were done for free: I paid to play (as no-one in their right mind would hire me!).

Go to: http://homepage.hispeed.ch/SkyPaint/

and listen to the 3 songs. They are not perfect and were recorded on a 4-track cassette, but the message is clear. Please tell me what you think.
 
Very nice Bidoche.

Pretty full-sounding recording for a 4track. Each song has it's own sound, but the ideas within unmistakably similar.

Are you a fan of Roger Walters by any chance?

Thanks.
 
Thanks for sharing this Bidoche :)

In general, I like the idea of putting a meaningful message behind music. I wish more artists did this instead of singing of meaningless drivel or completely subjective impressions. It sounds like these songs were made more as advertisement for this particular website/organization. There is nothing wrong with this, but by writing them this way they probably have less appeal to people than just a song based on a general idea or concept.

From a musical standpoint, I like the last song the best "The Simultaneous Policy (2008)". There are some nice sound textures and changes on that one. But that is just my own subjective impression. Like cholas mentioned, I can't believe you made these with just a 4-track! I haven't touched one of those things in probably 15 years. A lot of what you did with the 4-track probably would have been greatly enhanced by a modern software sequencer.

On a side note, I checked out this organization and it seems like they mean well. I think the problems they seek to change would take more than the adoption of a certain set of principals in order to push votes in one direction or another. Perhaps they should look into some of the data collected on this forum and elsewhere on psychopathy? ;)
 
cholas said:
Are you a fan of Roger Walters by any chance?


Cholas,

I never really listened much to Pink Floyd, but I did like Walters' bass playing on the earlier albums. Ummagumma was probably my favourite.
 
RyanX said:
Thanks for sharing this Bidoche :)

From a musical standpoint, I like the last song the best "The Simultaneous Policy (2008)". There are some nice sound textures and changes on that one. But that is just my own subjective impression. Like cholas mentioned, I can't believe you made these with just a 4-track! I haven't touched one of those things in probably 15 years. A lot of what you did with the 4-track probably would have been greatly enhanced by a modern software sequencer.

I bought my 4-track in 1985 and still use it. Why? Because a) I'm familiar with its operation, b) analog sound is where it's at for me. In the past, I used a DAT to complete mastering, but these days, the signal is processed through a (second-hand) hi-end stereo cassette deck which is connected to a computer running Cubase. Generally, I hate the coldness of digital, so when I recorded the bass guitar, the warmth of analog came through nicely. Playing live, everything was routed through a small mixer (cd w/backing tracks, bass and effect pedals) with a stereo out to the P.A. system. The recording you heard was also done in this fashion.

On a side note, I checked out this organization and it seems like they mean well. I think the problems they seek to change would take more than the adoption of a certain set of principals in order to push votes in one direction or another. Perhaps they should look into some of the data collected on this forum and elsewhere on psychopathy? ;)

You're being a bit hard on this issue. The Simultaneous Policy is worth investigating thoroughly. There are few alternatives that would radically improve world politics.

Thanks RyanX and cholas for the comments!
 
Bidoche said:
About 10 years ago, I was introduced to a new concept in world politics called The Simultaneous Policy (http://simpol.org). It caught my attention and I became an adopter. Those involved on the political side tried their hardest to bring this idea to the general public and for a while, they seemed to have made some progress. It's so hard to change the world.

I wrote 3 songs for the organization, but due to the music_mafia, none were broadcast :(

In 2008, I did a series of solo concerts in both Serbia (ex-Yugoslavia) and England (my home country) playing the bass guitar to the electronic music of a French contemporary musician, M. Nomized (http://www.myspace.com/mnomized), to which I added sound clips (triggered via a looper) from various sources (Martin Luther King, Jr., Salvatore Allende, Orson Welles, etc. + my own text relative to the Simultaneous Policy). Audiences were appreciative. All the concerts were done for free: I paid to play (as no-one in their right mind would hire me!).

Go to: http://homepage.hispeed.ch/SkyPaint/

and listen to the 3 songs. They are not perfect and were recorded on a 4-track cassette, but the message is clear. Please tell me what you think.
Good shit! Excellent. That pic of the naked soldier crucified on the sword, was that taken at the War Memorial at Hyde Park in Sydney?
If not, we have one exactly the same.
 
Zorpho said:
Good -shite-! Excellent. That pic of the naked soldier crucified on the sword, was that taken at the War Memorial at Hyde Park in Sydney? If not, we have one exactly the same.

Rest assured, Zorpho, there is only one sculpture. Patrick took the pic in Hyde Park in 1988!

Appreciate your comments on the tracks.
 

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