Possible war between Kosovo and Serbia?

Albania's Census Shows Population Fell by 14% Since 2011

Albania's population fell from 2.8 million in 2011 to 2.4 million, according to the newly-published results of the 2023 census – with figures showing a sharp rise in the percentage of elderly citizens.

Figures published on Friday from Albania’s 2023 headcount shows the total population has fallen by around 409,000 people, or some 14 per cent, since the 2011 census, when some 2.8 milion people lived in the country.

“There are [now] 2,412,113 inhabitants, who make up 755,950 families with an average size of 3.2 members per family and who live in 1,082,529 ordinary homes,” the head of the Institute of Statistics, INSTAT, Elsa Dhuli, told a press conference.

The census took place from September to November 2023 after being delayed several times because of the COVID-19 pandemic and an earthquake in 2019.

Jorida Tabaku, an opposition MP, told BIRN that the long delay in the publication of the final results had been “pointless”, noting that the 2011 census did not need six months for the publication of the results, and when the technology has become better now.

“This shows not only a lack of seriousness on the part of the government but also a weak administration. I don’t know why it needed so much time for such a small country,” Tabaku told BIRN.

Tabaku highlighted the migration issue and the clear ageing of the population.

“Unfortunately, Albanians have decreased by 400,000 inhabitants, proving the immigration crisis and the continuous depopulation that has not only increased the average age of our country by two years to 42 years but also the decrease in the number of young people. From the INSTAT figures … young people have decreased by 6.4% while the elderly have increased by 13.7%,; we have more elderly people, and less and less young people,” she noted.

Tabaku said the trend was alarming. “In relation to historical data, the Albania of 2024 is less in number than the Albania of 1976, and this is another alarming sign, not just because we have decreased [compared] to the population five decades ago but because … the aging of the country is [now] inevitable,” she concluded.

Albania’s government has been the target of criticism from the opposition over mass migration, which Socialist Prime Minister Edi Rama has dismissed many times, claiming it is a normal “historical trend”.

In the summer of 2022 alone, some 12,000 Albanians crossed the sea from France to Britain in small boats. According to the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford, some 16,000 Albanians applied for asylum in Britain in 2022; roughly 12,000 of them arrived irrregularly by small boats across the Channel.

The 2011 census drew widespread criticism for allegedly under-counting the Roma and Egyptian communities in Albania, which had a knock-on effect, as budgetary funds allocated for minorities for education, employment and social welfare are relsted to their overall numbers.

 
Albania's Census Shows Population Fell by 14% Since 2011

Came across historical data some time ago here. There is a table and interactive graph that I failed to save other than with a screenshot. IMF's numbers are, in million:
2011 - 2.905
2023 - 2.858
Difference: 47.000 inhabitants. Change: -1.6%

Why such a huge discrepancy? IMF has 100K more for 2011 and over 400K more for 2023 than the numbers in BI's article.

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Checked other sources and all have numbers similar to IMF's: database.earth (source: the UN); worldeconomics (several sources, no IMF); worldometers (the UN, others); even ceicdata (Institute of Statistics of Albania)
Yes, there is still a decrease in population but it's decreasing and is much closer to zero than around 2005. Here is Growth Rate graph (1950-2024)

Against the above, the data provided by BI/INSTAT seems a bit fishy to me. Is it possible that what we see is a part of a political game and someone is highly interested in overestimating "the immigration crisis and the continuous depopulation" of Albania? The article is politically loaded...
 
Came across historical data some time ago here. There is a table and interactive graph that I failed to save other than with a screenshot. IMF's numbers are, in million:
2011 - 2.905
2023 - 2.858
Difference: 47.000 inhabitants. Change: -1.6%

Why such a huge discrepancy? IMF has 100K more for 2011 and over 400K more for 2023 than the numbers in BI's article.

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Checked other sources and all have numbers similar to IMF's: database.earth (source: the UN); worldeconomics (several sources, no IMF); worldometers (the UN, others); even ceicdata (Institute of Statistics of Albania)
Yes, there is still a decrease in population but it's decreasing and is much closer to zero than around 2005. Here is Growth Rate graph (1950-2024)

Against the above, the data provided by BI/INSTAT seems a bit fishy to me. Is it possible that what we see is a part of a political game and someone is highly interested in overestimating "the immigration crisis and the continuous depopulation" of Albania? The article is politically loaded...
There is even bigger problem with the Kosovo's census of this year. Officially there are some 1,8 - 9 million people in Kosovo, but allegedly police data show only around 800 - 900.000. people. There were some unofficial statements that they included in the census people who are living abroad (in the EU), but have their residence permit in Kosovo. Which means that they do exist, only not in Kosovo.

Serbian mobile operators have data on some 600.000 smartphone cards operating in Kosovo.

The problem with numbers of Albanians in Kosovo dates since socialist Yugoslavia. There were always rumours that there is "only" 10% of Serbs in Kosovo. The number of Serbs was known and it was around 400 - 500.000. Which implies that the number for the whole Kosovo were around 4.000.000. Well, no, the number for whole Kosovo never was bigger than 2.500.000. And so on . . .
 
Why such a huge discrepancy? IMF has 100K more for 2011 and over 400K more for 2023 than the numbers in BI's article.

Those organisations always have wrong numbers about populations. I think that they use projections, and not the real numbers from censuses.

Against the above, the data provided by BI/INSTAT seems a bit fishy to me. Is it possible that what we see is a part of a political game and someone is highly interested in overestimating "the immigration crisis and the continuous depopulation" of Albania? The article is politically loaded...

Well, the opposition in Albania was claiming that there are only 1.4 million of people in Albania, so that could be an overestimation, but 2.4 million sounds realistic to me.

There is even bigger problem with the Kosovo's census of this year.

The big drop in population of Kosovo will probably be seen in the next census because this year they finally got the visa for EU.

 
The Serbian opposition is preparing to eliminate President Vucic to clear the way for Kosovo's recognition.
Vucic and the opposition are the same globalist bunch, so they will not eliminate him. But, they using that to downplay people sentiment against them all.

Question: maybe we could have another thread for stuff like this in Serbia? Because it really has nothing to do with Kosovo or Albanians and war with Serbia.....
 
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Stumble on this, its fairly fresh, from 2023. Council of Europe rejected Albania's request to null the UN and EU report on human organ trafficking in Kosovo and Albania from 1999. and couple of years onwards. Which essentially means that EU is regarding Kosovo and Albania as human organ trafficking countries.


After the NATO aggression on Federal Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) and its occupation of Kosovo in 1999. thousands of Yugoslav army prisoners held by Albanians, also Kosovo Serbs, Kosovo Gypsies, Turks, Gorans, Croatians, essentially all of them were non-albanian people in Kosovo, were abducted, and never found again.


Later Swiss parliamentarians and prosecutors Dick Marty and his boss at that time, the main prosecutor of the UN's international tribunale for the ex-Yugoslavia in Hague, Carla del Ponte (I'm writing their jobs from the memory, so it could be some other titles), investigated the case and found that several thousands of people were kidnaped (great percentage of children) by Albanians who were the heads of the so called: Kosovo liberation army, transported to Albania and there killed and had their organs harvested and sold to two clinics, in Turkey and in Israel. Dick Marty made the report for the EU and UN in hope that there would be some international investigation and prosecution.


Because the criminal heads of the Kosovo liberation army were at the time important for the USA, and the whole case sounded so gruesome and unbelievable (that was the time before Ukraine and other similar horrible stories) the whole case was easy to shush and put under the rug. Marty and del Ponte lost their jobs and everything was forgotten. But, not officially of course, because the document is still seen as valid in the EU and UN.


The Council of Europe decided not to not back the Albanian Prime Minister’s request on overthrowing Dick Marty’s report. The 2010 published report by the Swiss politician alleges inhuman treatment of people and killing of prisoners with the purpose of removal and illicit trafficking of human organs in Kosovo. These allegations involve Hashim Thaçi, former president of Kosovo and other former Kosovo Liberation Army leaders, who are facing trial on war crimes in the Hague.


On April 3rd, Prime Minister Edi Rama announced that Albania had gathered signatures on a new resolution, to oppose the Dick Marty report. Rama argued that Marty’s document was made of “terrible accusations towards the KLA, without facts”.


However, according to Elvira Kovács, member of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, a decision was made to only give information on Albania’s initiative.


“It would be scandalous to doubt earlier reports and earlier works by the Committee of the CoE. It would be unprecedented,” Kovács says.


She also reminded that members of the CoE did not welcome Rama’s speech last year in Strasbourg, where he mentioned opposing Dick Marty’s report.


“Rama was unpleasant and rough in his performance. He spoke against the CoE’s job. The members were furious,” she highlights.




This is the actual report. 27 pages in PDF. Very detailed.


 
Not a good sign for Serbia... Like the devil is comming to you.

Source Radio Free Europe
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CIA Chief In Bosnia To Emphasize U.S. Support And 'Worrying' Rhetoric Of Republika Srpska President​


SARAJEVO -- CIA Director William Burns was in Sarajevo on August 20 to discuss the “worrying secessionist rhetoric and actions” of the pro-Russian president and government of Bosnia-Herzegovina’s Serb entity, a U.S. government official told RFE/RL.
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Not a good sign for Serbia... Like the devil is comming to you.

Source Radio Free Europe
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CIA Chief In Bosnia To Emphasize U.S. Support And 'Worrying' Rhetoric Of Republika Srpska President​


SARAJEVO -- CIA Director William Burns was in Sarajevo on August 20 to discuss the “worrying secessionist rhetoric and actions” of the pro-Russian president and government of Bosnia-Herzegovina’s Serb entity, a U.S. government official told RFE/RL.
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And:
Emmanuel Macron to visit Serbia on August 29 and 30, announces Élysée Palace

Also via French Sott, a very interesting article, in English, on Strategic Culture:

What the hell is happening in Trieste?

A few days ago, a secret meeting was held in Trieste, attended by authorities of various kinds: members of NATO, members of the Atlantic Council, members of the Hungarian think tank Danube linked to Viktor Orbán, members of Donald Trump’s entourage, members of the Italian Armed Forces and Police force, representatives of the city government and representatives of the local Freemasonry. You will not find this information elsewhere. The topic of the meeting was the militarisation of the port of Trieste. Which is the reason?

The strategic role of Trieste in the Trimarium doctrine

The year was 1942: a book destined to become a cornerstone of American maritime strategic science was published in the United States of America. It was entitled America’s Strategy in World Politics and was written by the academic geographer Nicholas John Spykman, one of the fathers of maritime geopolitics and a spiritual pupil of Sir Halford Mackinder. Apparently, the book in question was not a success with the general public, while it became a veritable bible of ‘sea route’ strategy for all powerful thalassocrats, introducing the Rimland concept that we use in geopolitics today.

There is a small chapter in the text devoted to a particular topic: the Trimarium doctrine, today better known by its modernized name of Three Seas Initiative (3SI or TSI). It is a strategy that will become the golden rule for maintaining American power on the continent of Europe. The 3SI, also known as the Baltic, Adriatic and Black Sea doctrine, is today regarded as a strategic initiative in which 13 member states participate, namely Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia, plus 2 de facto added states that are Moldova and Ukraine, and was officially launched as a project in 2015 by Polish President Andrzej Duda and Croatian President Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovič under the careful coordination of the U.S. State Department.

A coincidence? Definitely not.


When the Americans came to Europe during WWII, having no intention of simply taking a summer holiday but rather of staying and establishing a lasting power, they had to devise a way to keep the continent under control, not only militarily – which they succeeded in doing thanks to the huge number of American military bases spread over all European countries – but also financially and commercially, as well as politically. At that time, Europe was in a phase of division between East and West, between Atlantic and Soviet influence. Central Europe or, more precisely, Mitteleurope, was the geographical fulcrum on which to establish the exercise of this power. A way had to be found to control the continent in a stable and lasting manner, a need that had become pressing at the end of the First World War and with the disintegration of the Habsburg Empire, a veritable geopolitical buffer that had cushioned not a few frictions and claims between Russians, Ottomans and Germans. The political geography that had taken shape with the 14 points of Woodrow Wilson’s programme was not enough to guarantee governability. Even Winston Churchill was well aware of the need for a solid bloc that was impenetrable by the powers to the east.

The idea was therefore launched, in agreement between Churchill and the successor Franklin Delano Roosevelt, to find a geo-economic solution: With the help of three Federal Clubs, the Club of London, the Club of Paris and the Club of Rome, the Intermarium Charter was published in 1945, a document based on the theorizations of the American Spykman, which proposed the union of all the peoples from the lower Adriatic Sea (Aegean Sea in particular) to the North European Seas, with the conviction that stability in the region was of paramount importance for lasting peace throughout Europe.

In particular, it was necessary to hold in check a number of ports of enormous importance, such as Hamburg in Germany and Constance in Romania, and the port of Trieste in particular. Since then, the Trimarium doctrine has been pursued with consistency and determination, through various multilateral international agreements involving trade routes, banking institutions, investment funds and the strategic sector. All this was facilitated by the collapse of the USSR, which meant a significant weakening of the political entities of the countries involved in the heart of Eastern Europe.

If we think about it, the Trimarium geographically creates a kind of triangle in the East, running close to the border with the Russian Federation. Exactly what NATO has been doing for 75 years, namely expanding eastwards to provoke and attack Russia. The practice has been consistent with the doctrine. In fact, it’s an instrument of control for the entire Balkan macro-region, which is the subject of speculation, military missions and constant political and social problems, deliberately kept under check and instability.

The new name of Three Seas Initiative does not change the strategic geometry of the old Trimarium: the ports involved have been increased and the American military presence has been implemented in the areas of interest, among which the most important and continuously under U.S. attention is still Trieste. How come?

The Free Port of Trieste and the Free Territory of Trieste

Not many people are familiar with the legal status of Trieste, which is indeed singular and deserving of in-depth study (which we will not carry out in this article, perhaps later). After WWII, the Triestine area was designated to be a free space that was to guarantee a balance of power between the contending Powers, as a demilitarized and neutral space, endowed with an autonomous government and coexistence between the various ethnic groups present. In 1947, the Treaty of Paris was signed, in which peace was established and divisions of influence between the victorious and defeated countries were allocated. With the 16th resolution, the Free Territory of Trieste (Territorio Libero di Trieste – TLT) was established. In 1954 the London Memorandum entrusted the provisional civil administration of Zone A to Italy and Zone B to Yugoslavia. In 1975, however, with the Treaty of Osimo, Italy and Yugoslavia established a border between territories they did not own, violating the autonomy of the TLT and the Treaty of Paris. With the collapse of Yugoslavia and the subsequent division of the land into several states, the TLT found itself divided between three countries – Italy, Slovenia and Croatia – which occupied it illegitimately, violating previous treaties and triggering disputes, political and judicial struggles, scandals and protests that continue to this day.

What is most interesting is the Italian approach. Trieste is placed under administrative and military occupation, as there are possibly armed and police forces of the Italian Republic … and American, as Italy is a colony of the USA under military occupation, as evidenced by the more than 120 U.S. bases all over the territory. Precisely in Trieste, the Americans have placed the UN intelligence school and a special police control, including the Eurogendfor, which keeps not only the city but also the trade routes under persistent military control.

The port of Trieste, which is supposed to be an international free port, is the port par excellence that allows Mitteleuropa access to the Mediterranean Sea, which opens to the East and Africa, with a 73% convenience compared to other European ports. Its location is strategic in every respect. That is why the Americans wanted to take control of it to implement the Trimarium doctrine. To govern Trieste and its port is to govern Southern and Eastern Europe. From Trieste to the Baltic, a straight line is created that defines an imaginary ‘iron curtain’, but also a north-south corridor in terms of gas and oil pipelines, overland trade routes and the unique military administration of territories.

All this violates the sovereignty of the TLT and the international agreements by which it was established, committing a double act of violence.

In the meantime, China and Russia have also intervened in Trieste, the former with important investments, heavily slowed down with Italy’s demotion from the Silky Way in the spring of 2024, the latter already present since the Soviet period and now, after years of investments, blocked due to European sanctions from 2022.

The Cotton Way passes through Trieste

Let us return to the secret meeting a few days ago. The topic was the militarization of the port, which is already under de facto military control, but which would be totally put under siege when Italy starts the Via del Cotone – The Cotton Way. This is an alternative trade route from the Silk Road, realized through a partnership between the USA, India, Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates, Israel, Jordan, and the European Union, consisting of two links, one rail and one port, with funds from the Global Infrastructure and Investment created by the G7 in 2002 and the European Union’s Global Gateway. The aim is to compete with China and, in general, the Eurasian partnerships and the BRICS+, from which European countries are excluded by virtue of Anglo-American subjugation.

In this economic corridor between India, the Middle East and Europe, Italy will participate by virtue of the memorandum signed in September 2023 precisely through the port of Trieste.

It is a pity that the geopolitical situation in Europe – not to mention the economic situation, which is totally disastrous for all states on the continent – is not exactly favourable: the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is lasting longer than NATO had foreseen and this is causing great instability within the very Trimarium triangle – where Ukraine has been added in 2023, under the pretext of strengthening its military independence -; the situation in the Middle East is an epoch-making disaster; the war economy has not favored the recovery of European countries, on the contrary, it has thrown them one after the other into a long winter of inflation; international support has failed with the advent of an eastern-led multipolar world, crumbling day after day, agreement after agreement, the American hegemony throughout the world.

What to do with the Trimarium and Trieste then?

The militarization of an international free port appears to be a well-conceived provocation. In violation of international law and with the overbearing use of force, the Atlantic bloc wants to raise its voice against Russia and China, trying to limit their interests in the occupied territories. But even more likely, what they are trying to do is to consolidate that ‘iron curtain’ from the Mediterranean to the North Seas, so that they can manage (or almost manage) the eventual geographical misalignment of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.


Let us try to imagine the following scenario: Ukraine falls, NATO and its proxy known as the European Union, forced to fight a suicidal proxy war, do not let go and agree to extend the conflict into the heart of Europe. Where would they go to fight? Taking a conventional conflict approach as valid, the most optimal territories would be Poland and Germany, via Hungary. Reaching as far as Germany already, however, would mean collapsing the Deutsche Bank, in terrible crisis yet, which is the primary source of money flow for the European Central Bank, and this is unacceptable because it would implode the EU political system and the Euro as a currency, with disastrous consequences for the already battered dollar. We must therefore repel the enemy and keep it beyond a certain border. From Trieste to the North, therefore, by clamping down on Mitteleuropa with the help of Moldavia and Romania, it is possible to establish a circumscribed and manageable theatre of battle, one that has already been dense with NATO military presence for decades and has been steadily increasing in recent years, with exercises and war schools in Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania that are preparing soldiers for the clash with Russia. Bear in mind that Croatia has reintroduced compulsory conscription and that Italy will soon do so, as has already been under discussion in Parliament for months.

What on earth is happening in Trieste? To answer this question, bearing in mind the subject of the closed-door meeting, a few words are enough: the next theatre of war.

And they certainly won’t come asking us for permission to start it.
 
Vučić will announce important decisions tomorrow at 6 p.m.; Option of declaring occupation of part of Serbia

As Kurir and Alo write, Serbian state leadership is still debating numerous issues, and the option of declaring occupation of part of the territory of the Republic of Serbia is on the table, which entails numerous consequences, including preparations for the return of the occupied areas, due to the months-long tensions in Kosovo and the situation that escalated in the last few days.

The last in a series of unpleasant events, and after the 14-day blockade of Serbian institutions, was the beating, harassment and kidnapping of four Serbian young men who were celebrating birthday.

At the same time, all this brings significant problems, not only due to the need for development and progress of Serbia, but also due to the fact that this would recognize the legality and legitimacy of the so-called Kosovo Army and its bodies as a legal opposing party, according to Kurir and Alo.


He cannot declare occupation of part of Serbia because that would recognize the legality and legitimacy of the so-called Kosovo Army and its bodies as a legal opposing party. So in order to not give them legality and legitimacy, he will pretend that part of Serbia is not occupied and carry on as usual. I think that says enough about possible conflict in Kosovo.
 
He cannot declare occupation of part of Serbia because that would recognize the legality and legitimacy of the so-called Kosovo Army and its bodies as a legal opposing party. So in order to not give them legality and legitimacy, he will pretend that part of Serbia is not occupied and carry on as usual. I think that says enough about possible conflict in Kosovo.
The man is just a traitor and innane criminal brought to power by the West, just for the sole purpose, to recognize Kosovo and to made it to a "state". Which he does brilliantly. And that's all. No further mystifications needed.

There will be no normal life, prosperity, or real statehood while that criminal thug with his West cronies are in the power.
 
"No Declaration of Occupation"

President of Serbia pointed out that our legal experts were against declaring the occupation of Kosovo and Metohija.

"We did not declare an occupation. We must not give them the status of a legal armed force. We will not give them any legal legality and legitimacy because they do not have it," said Vučić. As he pointed out, just recognizing the occupation is a criminal act.



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