Problems after vaccine - request for advice

[herondancer]

Here are some sources for ready-made liposomal C. Don't know if they will ship to your area, but a google search may turn up other leads

http://www.amazon.com/Optimal-Liposomal-Vitamin-Serving-Servings/dp/B007WUR5AO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359129429&sr=8-2&keywords=lipospheric+vitamin+c

http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-Vitamin-C-p/liposomal-vitamin-c.htm?1=1&CartID=0

I've been getting mine from here: http://nanovitaminc.ca/products.htm

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Hi name,

Very sorry to hear that. One of my aunts is stuck with a very bad case of fibromyalgia and the pain you describe reminds me of what she endures on a daily basis. She sticks to her doctor who is make in far worst by imposing her one of the worst diet I've seen, a cocktail of multicolored pills (such as opiates for the pain) and injections sometimes. Makes me think of the nurse as well as a matter of fact.

I sincerely hope your significant other will be alright.

Nurse is the least one to blame in this story while the real culprits are pharmaceutical mafia and government.

Hummm, not too sure about this. The nurse acted under her own free will as far as I'm concerned. And I don't think she was literally forced to do it. And more so she violated name's SO's free will by doing so. She may not have had any bad intention but the result is that name's SO seems to be caught with a very serious health issue. Intention is something but the result is also important.

Pharmaceutical companies and governments are also to blame, I agree, but so are those who blindly accept their lies and endanger other people's integrity by doing so. Ignorance endangers and believing lies is the worst.

I've hurt people in the past because of my ignorance and delusion. But I see no point in just blaming those who have manipulated me because I am the one who accepted their lies and have always acted under my very own free will. We all play an equally important role on this planet. What happens next always depends on what everyone is doing right now.

This sort of behavior is just dead wrong to my eyes. I do not wish the nurse to be lynched on the public place (or anything like that) but she really needs to be confronted about this in my opinion. Otherwise, she may never become aware of the consequences of her action and might do it again thinking it's alright (assuming she has never done it before).

She could be the best there is as a nurse for everything else but still, it's an issue I think she strongly needs to be addressed. Otherwise, the cycle begins anew and history repeats itself. "Something's gotta stop the flow." --- Ink Movie

My thoughts.

Peace.

 

[griffin]

This situation apparently presents some serious problems, and you have my condolences about them, especially your SO's compromised physiological condition. Here are my thoughts about several things.

Your primary focus should be to obtain competent medical attention to alleviate her symptoms and get correct diagnosis and effective treatment to resolve the problems created by the tetanus vaccination, and only as a secondary project should you seek any kind of 'justice' and compensation for causing it.

Her medical complications are present now and apparently worsening, while all legal systems move slowly, and invariably deliver final judgment and compensation, if any, only after years of expensive litigation. You should find a good doctor who is knowledgeable about such bad reactions to tetanus vaccinations and the related neurological complications and conditions, and you must do this as a matter of urgency, right now.

You might also talk to experienced medical malpractice lawyers and find one who is willing to take your case on a contingency fee basis, meaning that you pay him only a nominal retainer fee and he pursues it. That likely will be a civil lawsuit, because a criminal complaint isn't going to go anywhere, as the nurse had no criminal intent, but instead was guilty, at most, of negligence. But that should be your secondary effort. Your primary objective now should be to find effective treatment for your SO.

Finally, and almost as a footnote... you said that your SO can't tolerate vitamin C taken as ascorbic acid powder mixed in water. How much are you putting in a glass of water? And are you buffering it with a non-sugar sweetener like stevia? Most people can tolerate drinking 1/2 teaspoon of ascorbic acid powder, or about 5g, in a large glass of water, or about 12oz, if 3g of stevia is mixed in as well. Many people routinely take 10g to 20g of vitamin C in that form every day and manage to tolerate it.

 

[Jacques]

One of my aunts is stuck with a very bad case of fibromyalgia and the pain you describe reminds me of what she endures on a daily basis. She sticks to her doctor who is make in far worst by imposing her one of the worst diet I've seen, a cocktail of multicolored pills (such as opiates for the pain) and injections sometimes. Makes me think of the nurse as well as a matter of fact.

A good book about that is :

Treating & Beating Fibromyalgia & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome by Rodger H. Murphree

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/search?keywords=9780972893848+Rodger+H.+Murphree+Treating+%26+Beating+Fibromyalgia+%26+Chronic+Fatigue+Syndrome&tag=collectorzapp0f-20&index=books

 

[Deleted member 8431]

One of my aunts is stuck with a very bad case of fibromyalgia and the pain you describe reminds me of what she endures on a daily basis. She sticks to her doctor who is make in far worst by imposing her one of the worst diet I've seen, a cocktail of multicolored pills (such as opiates for the pain) and injections sometimes. Makes me think of the nurse as well as a matter of fact.

A good book about that is :

Treating & Beating Fibromyalgia & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome by Rodger H. Murphree

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/search?keywords=9780972893848+Rodger+H.+Murphree+Treating+%26+Beating+Fibromyalgia+%26+Chronic+Fatigue+Syndrome&tag=collectorzapp0f-20&index=books

Thanks. That was something I had in mind.

I have started to read the thread and there's indeed a lot of good info. Problem is she can't read English though. Has it been translated into French (I live in Québec so you might know)?

 

[Jacques]

Thanks. That was something I had in mind.

I have started to read the thread and there's indeed a lot of good info. Problem is she can't read English though. Has it been translated into French (I live in Québec so you might know)?

No it hasn't been translated so far.

However, it is an excellent book and I think the book is in the recommended books (or used to be). So maybe you can read it and if one day your aunt ask for some advices, at that moment you could share your knowledge with her.

 

[name]

My SO went this morning to her doctor who has her office around the corner, who checked her up and sent her to X-Ray to go sure its not the hip articulation. It is not. Both her doctor and the X-Ray lady said that she should go to the hospital and complain and have them find a solution for this issue. My SO plans to go tomorrow when the X-Ray transparencies are ready. She is currently limping around using painkillers, and I am having her take 8000 UI Vitamin D3 2-3 times a day.


griffin, the legal side of this issue is a criminal complaint for bodily injury and possibly inadequate oversight: there was clearly a NO but the nurse still injected her, in presence of the treating doctor. A civil law lawsuit would at best result in a pittance after years of litigation. The problem is that the doctors are regarded as akin to gods here, and the nurses often toadies adept at finding out what is "expected" from them (kinda like authoritarian followers), and any doctor who expects to get ahead professionally will sooner or later see to it that the interests of big pharma are taken into account. I have no idea of where to find anykind of effective treatment here, so I'll go the "official" way: speak with the complaints dept of the doctors chamber, and then go to the hospital with her, and all that taking in account what has been given me here as advice. I take the powdered Vit-C, about a half teaspoon, with a teaspoon honey in 1/4 liter water, sometimes with lemon or orange juice.


Jaymark, sorry for your aunt.I had a grand-aunt who also had one of those gadgets with her 7-day ration of pills of all colors. Even at that time it left me wondering how she could live taking all that stuff. She somehow resembled Bart Simpsons grandfather and was brownish, probably from renal problems acquired from all those pills, and at over 80 she behaved like a child and it was very clear to me that she was spaced out.


So thanks again everybody and take care :)

 

[Laura]

I take the powdered Vit-C, about a half teaspoon, with a teaspoon honey in 1/4 liter water, sometimes with lemon or orange juice.

If you are using honey as a sweetener or drinking fruit juice, you are completely cancelling out the Vitamin C as has been discussed at length here on the forum. Don't even bother to take it if you can't cut out carbs.

 

[name]

If you are using honey as a sweetener or drinking fruit juice, you are completely cancelling out the Vitamin C as has been discussed at length here on the forum. Don't even bother to take it if you can't cut out carbs.

Many thanks for that. That means I'll be drinking it unsweetened during the next days. Will go and read up

 

[Ennio]

I have no idea of where to find anykind of effective treatment here, so I'll go the "official" way: speak with the complaints dept of the doctors chamber, and then go to the hospital with her, and all that taking in account what has been given me here as advice.

I would be surprised if the folks at the hospital came up with something that could help since it's their approach to healing that was the cause of all tis - though its probably a good idea to just see what they say, just in case.

I'd like to second Herondancer's suggestion for your wife to take lyposomal vitamin C, name. I used to be intolerant of ascorbic acid too by the way, but there is something in the processing of it that makes it very easy to take now, fwiw. So it's a great way to get loads of C into her and working pronto. NAC is also very good, another very potent detoxifier.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

No it hasn't been translated so far.

However, it is an excellent book and I think the book is in the recommended books (or used to be). So maybe you can read it and if one day your aunt ask for some advices, at that moment you could share your knowledge with her.

That's pretty much going to be it.

 

[griffin]

If you are using honey as a sweetener or drinking fruit juice, you are completely cancelling out the Vitamin C as has been discussed at length here on the forum. Don't even bother to take it if you can't cut out carbs.

Many thanks for that. That means I'll be drinking it unsweetened during the next days. Will go and read up

Dilute ascorbic acid in water is bitter tasting, so 'sweetening' it is necessary for many people to tolerate drinking it, but as Laura said, you can't add sugar, honey or fruit juice because the sugar will negate the vitamin C.

Instead, add some stevia or another natural non-sugar sweetener. Don't use any artificial sweetener such as saccharin or aspartame.