Procedure for Hypnosis?

Plum

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello, As C's said we can know much more about ourselves through hypnosis,I read some books on hypnosis, I was searching in transcripts and I came across Laura's mirror session which was done using a mirror in the room but couldn't find a procedure from the books that worked for me when I tried and I didn't try the mirror one as I'm not aware whether I should do it as a beginner or not. I joined a hypnotherapy diploma but what I noticed in that particular course was it was relaxation techniques at most and guiding the subjects to imagine/visualize certain things and we have to tell them what to do in the said hypnotic state instead of asking the subjects what they're seeing. I came to the conclusion it was not actual hypnosis that I'm learning about the course I have joined was because I too have been a demo subject for a certain hypnotic induction and it went on for almost 2 hours but I was completely conscious. Are there any methods where hypnotic induction is done without any physical means but as an extended state of relaxation?Or any suggestions/recommendations can be helpful. Thank you!😊
 
Hello Plum, the subject of hypnosis is covered in both The Wave, Amazing Grace and other articles that you can access here.

I was searching in transcripts and I came across Laura's mirror session which was done using a mirror in the room but couldn't find a procedure from the books that worked for me when I tried and I didn't try the mirror one as I'm not aware whether I should do it as a beginner or not.

Your caution is warranted and it's probably not a good idea to try it without a lot of preparation and awareness of the dangers associated with it as you'll gather by reading more, so it's good that you have asked.

Along with the above reading there are other books on the recommended reading list that you might find helpful including:

- Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual17.3 - William J. Baldwin
- Thirty Years Among the Dead17.4- Carl A. Wickland, and others that make for a good start.

At the same time it's probably also a good idea to work your way through the books on the recommended reading list from, at the very least, groups 2 -5, but the more the better.


I joined a hypnotherapy diploma but what I noticed in that particular course was it was relaxation techniques at most and guiding the subjects to imagine/visualize certain things and we have to tell them what to do in the said hypnotic state instead of asking the subjects what they're seeing. I came to the conclusion it was not actual hypnosis that I'm learning about the course I have joined was because I too have been a demo subject for a certain hypnotic induction and it went on for almost 2 hours but I was completely conscious.

Do you have a link to the organisation that the diploma was offered through?
Are there any methods where hypnotic induction is done without any physical means but as an extended state of relaxation?

Sure, but it depends on the goal of the hypnotism. For example the mass formation psychosis that is apparent in the world today is a kind of hypnosis that depends on keeping people stressed and frightened for their lives. Other forms are dependent on more extreme torture and could be used to create multiple personality disorder.
 
Hello, As C's said we can know much more about ourselves through hypnosis,I read some books on hypnosis, I was searching in transcripts and I came across Laura's mirror session which was done using a mirror in the room but couldn't find a procedure from the books that worked for me when I tried and I didn't try the mirror one as I'm not aware whether I should do it as a beginner or not.
when you mention Laura's mirror session, do you mean the usage of psychomantium? This needs lot of knowledge for things not go wrong.

As already mentioned, it is better to be cautious with the different approaches. It depends on the aim of hypnotism. If you are using hypnotism on others, main stream approach is to lead the person in specific direction. This is control system's attempt not to expose the hidden mechanisms ( ex: abduction etc.). If you have already read Wave series, you may want to reread. If not, you may want to read it first.
I was familiar already with much of the material being produced by the psychological community about these subjects, and I had read many sessions from these books and articles that were supposed to prove the existence of Satanists and their wicked agenda because this or that individual had begun to experience flashbacks or bits and pieces of memories of abuse. They would then rush themselves off to a psychologist, psychiatrist, or hypnotherapist who would engage them in non-directive therapy to assist them in the recovery of both their memories and, by default, the “missing parts” of their “soul”.

I would read these accounts and see the clues scattered throughout that the emerging scenarios were, very likely, “created”. And that is not to say that the individual was creating them at all! They were more likely “manufactured” just as the scene of the “benevolent Mantids” who were “teaching the children in a loving way” in the session at the beginning of this series was manufactured. When the screen was directively “removed”, the revealed activity of Mantids eating human children was exposed.1 It was clear that in “non-directive” therapy, this would never have occurred.

The problem was that, in the field of hypnotherapy, there had been such an outcry from skeptics in past years about the suggestibility of the client, and the purported “agendas” of the therapists, that directed therapy had fallen into disfavor. It was now all client-directed. The therapist was more a “sounding board” who merely gave gentle, non-directive suggestions that the client should give him/herself “permission” to “recover” the memory (whatever it was). In this way, it was believed that the client would “recover their truth”. In this sense, “their truth” amounted to little more than another illusion.

The problem with this approach is twofold. In the first place, if we consider for even a moment that there is the possibility that there are beings — whether human or otherwise — who are out there engaged in mind programming efforts (and there is some considerable factual evidence to support this) then we have to consider that they would install blocks to recovery of the memories of their activities as a first line of defense. They would very likely make these blocks or screens interactive with some installed mechanism of severe discomfort so that the subject would either avoid retrieval or be unable to retrieve such memories without serious pain or stress.

The second problem is that I have experimented with suggestibility of subjects to some considerable extent and have found that they are not as malleable as skeptics might wish us to think. Which leads, of course, to the idea of manipulation of opinion regarding directive therapy so that it falls into disrepute as a therapeutic mode, thus adding a layer of protection over such nefarious activities.

There was an experiment done some years ago by a researcher who selected a random sample of individuals who were, ostensibly, not abductees and, under hypnosis or guided imagery techniques, led them into an alien abduction scenario. Because a significant number of them began to describe abductions in the same terms as persons who had claimed to be abductees due to some conscious representations surfacing, it was decided that this proved that the abduction complex of images was more or less archetypal and therefore, false.

It never occurred to the researchers that the non-abducted persons who described accurately the abduction process might really have been abducted, but that their abductions and programming did not have the glitches that cause others to remember or to have clues that lead them to active therapy to recover their memories.

Anyway, this experiment was taken as “proof” that the recovered memories of abductees could very well be suggested to them by literature, movies, and even the therapists. So, “directive therapy” was tossed aside in favor of just allowing the client to let his memories — whatever they might be — sort of “drift to the top”.

I can demonstrate hundreds of instances where this idea of suggestibility is false. An example would be when I say to a client under hypnosis who is describing an alien being, that I want them to tell me what kind of nose they have; is it big or little. Now, right there I have suggested that the being must have a nose and that it is either big or little. If the client were as suggestible as is proposed, they would naturally tell me one or the other or even that it is a “medium sized nose”. But time and again, the answer would come back: “I don’t see a nose. There is a little hole or a dimple-like thing, but no nose.”

Or, I would say, “What are you smelling?” That is a direct suggestion that they must smell something. But the answer might come back “Nothing at all.” Or, if a smell is present, they might have their attention directed to that factor and tell me that there is some sort of smell.

Another example would be when I ask the client: “How did you get out of the room? Did you go out the door or the window?” And they would respond “Neither. I sort of ‘went through the wall’.” On the other hand, if I suggest that they were “carried on a beam of light” as was the case in a different instance they had previously described, they might come back and say “Not this time. I was carried through the door.”

Over and over again I have tried these little directive suggestions to get data, and over and over again I have seen that, even with powerful direction, the client will recover whatever is there to recover with very little fabrication, if any.
I joined a hypnotherapy diploma but what I noticed in that particular course was it was relaxation techniques at most and guiding the subjects to imagine/visualize certain things and we have to tell them what to do in the said hypnotic state instead of asking the subjects what they're seeing. I came to the conclusion it was not actual hypnosis that I'm learning about the course I have joined was because I too have been a demo subject for a certain hypnotic induction and it went on for almost 2 hours but I was completely conscious.
Not all subjects goes to same level of hypnotic state.
Are there any methods where hypnotic induction is done without any physical means but as an extended state of relaxation?
What do you mean by "extended state of relaxation"? There are so many modalities exist, have varied effects on the subjects and varied names used for the effects, it is hard to say.

I find these C's quote interesting for better perspective. 1996-05-04
Q: (L) What is this thing we call hypnosis?

A: The 2nd step to open consciousness union with level 5.

Q: (L) What's the first step?

A: Dream state.

Q: (L) What's the third step?

A: Trance.

Q: (L) What's the fourth step?

A: Expiration of body functions.

Q: (L) You mean as in death, kicked the bucket?

A: Of body.

Or any suggestions/recommendations can be helpful. Thank you!😊
Going back to the filtering of reality, it seems that most of our body-mind attention shifts are directed subconsciously by our ligands and receptors. They direct our attention by their activities and we are not consciously involved in deciding what gets processed, remembered, or learned. But we do have the possibility of bringing some of it to awareness with the help of various types of intentional training. But, of course, no one undertakes intentional training until the system is so bogged down and there is so much suffering that a cure is sought. And for the most part the cures are sought in pharmacology, which merely exacerbates the problems. As the prodigal son sought to glue himself to a citizen of the far country, we seek our cures in religions of all kinds, including the religion of the American Medical Association. This amounts to being sent to feed and live and eat with the pigs. And only when we have suffered that condition a sufficient period of time will we come to ourselves.

Clearly, based on research, we can see that repressed emotions are stored in the body via the circuit creation effected by the release of neuropeptide ligands. It is also proposed that when the soul finally seats in the body, the soul’s wounds or scars will energetically affect the body, producing any number of neuropeptide stimulating frequencies that then lay circuits of their own that cannot be related to present life experiences. Hypnosis, yogic practices, deep tissue bodywork, can all be methods used to heal or change the circuits without the conscious mind ever figuring out what is going on. The drawback to this is that, not knowing what is going on prevents the conscious mind from avoiding recurrence. My Éiriú Eolas program avoids these drawbacks by healing these circuits while simultaneously working to utilize the conscious mind.

Emotions constantly regulate what we experience as reality. The research suggests that the nervous system scans the outer world for material that it is prepared to find by virtue of its already laid circuits, its internal patterns of past experience including early imprinting in infancy. The superior colliculus in the midbrain, another nodal point, controls the muscles that direct the eyeball, and controls which images are permitted to fall on the retina. This means that an emotional center of the brain literally controls what we see.
 
when you mention Laura's mirror session, do you mean the usage of psychomantium? This needs lot of knowledge for things not go wrong
Yes, psychomantium. After reading other suggestions, i have understood it needs so much knowledge to proceed further.
As already mentioned, it is better to be cautious with the different approaches. It depends on the aim of hypnotism. If you are using hypnotism on others, main stream approach is to lead the person in specific direction. This is control system's attempt not to expose the hidden mechanisms ( ex: abduction etc.). If you have already read Wave series, you may want to reread. If not, you may want to read it first.
I'm a psychologist and the aim of hypnosis for me is to guide the clients in a hypnotic state mostly for spirit releasement therapy. I have read some parts of Wave series, yet to complete. I will try to re read it !
What do you mean by "extended state of relaxation"? There are so many modalities exist, have varied effects on the subjects and varied names used for the effects, it is hard to say.
I see i couldn't express myself clearly here, to clarify,I said "Extended state of relaxation" to explain the modalities which does not include something like psychomantium.
I find these C's quote interesting for better perspective. 1996-05-04
Thankyou for quoting the session, i have already gone through them.
Thankyou for your reply, I will check the resources you have mentioned! 😊
 

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