Professor challenges Mayan calendar opinion

[Keit]

To us, it seems that anything from a higher level is uncaused, or random, but I think this is just a higher-dimensional cause. It is more free than 3d, but still determined by higher laws. So I'm not so sure that we have infinite possibilities on 3d. If we do, I think of it more as aligning with our destiny or the free will of ourselves in a higher density. Then we aren't really creating NEW possibilites, but choosing the ones that already exist in a future state. What do you think?

Yes, I understand what you say. Actually, first time when I realised this, I've became really depressed. :)
I felt that we all part of some endless loop out of time, part of some self organazing non linear mosaik, and what we perceive as rundom events in our life, just the most complicated profound algorithms who unfold events according to what is written/planned in the loop. BUT, if this was the case, universe would never learn something new, right? Today I see it as a domino effect, we DO have endless possibilities any breathing moment in our life
and we have a power to change and effect this loop or spiral. And when we exercise our free will, we effect "future state" as well, and then the possible collection of future choices changes accordinly. If there is no time, what we have is only NOW, and now we can choose what ever we like.

But I also agree with EQ. Not all the events are possible right now.. some events take "time" to get higher probability. And most of the times it's connected to other people, to their development. And this is an example of STO dymamics. By helping others, you help yourself, because we are all connected.

 

[Laura]

Yes, it is all interesting and I have had similar thoughts as you: that the Mayan calendar is related to cyclic destruction.

Did you watch Apocalypto, by the way?

Some years back I was in Mexico and had an opportunity to view the Mayan art (sculpture, etc) in person. It was very disturbing and I have to say that I was having a really hard time trying to imagine the "soul" of such a culture. If anything, it seemed entirely psychopathic. Watching Apocalypto actually helped since I think that Gibson managed to capture the essence of that culture - and it sure wasn't all that different than the psychopathic reality that rules the U.S. today.

People tend to think that just because a culture rises to high technical achievement in some way that they must have been "good." I think that we can look at our own world and see how untrue that is.

 

[aceace]

There are 2 theories that stand out to me at this time. Through my research one is the return of some type of cataclysmic destruction by way of our powerful Universe. This could be a return of a star known as Nemesis. That is, if we do live in a binary star system, like some Astronomers suggest and believe. Will this cause a pole shift, eartquakes and tsunamis. Could their calendar be based solely on this event?

The other comes from videos mostly youtube, google that explain how the long count shows the advancement of species from the cellular level to intelligence to their demise. I don't follow this quite as much because I believe there is evidence that Earth has been inhabited many times before. I believe the Pyramids may be as much as 500,000 years old. Other civilizations that have came and went may have never reached the ability to go to outer space. Each may have been destroyed by the 25,600 year cycle and only slightly advancing at each stage.

Its possible that the long count is just to eliminate the corrections that must be made in the Gregorian calendar that we now have. An elimination of Leap year and the extra second or so we have to add each year. The Mayan astronomy may have been so advanced using the constellations that they "figured it out". Of course if we have a pole shift and as ancient Hinduism tells us "the sun hasn't always risen where it does now" that would completely throw the Mayan figures on "time" right out the door.

As for now I am sticking with a return of our suns binary star. A star that may rise from the southern hemisphere and may not be visible to us in the North until the energy begins to take its effect on Earth. This star may have some companion planets in tow. Stars like our sun have a habitable zone from Mars to slightly inside our Earths zone. A smaller binary star that may only get as close as Jupiter's orbit, may have a habitable zone only 6-10 million miles out.

All of this is just interesting speculation and until some type of proof comes, every things just a guess.

 

[yoyos]

The path this growth takes is the movement of free will, because only therein can that path be true to our determined nature (determined because it exists) which will always be unfathomable to us in its entirety at any given moment. So free will is really making the choices truest to our nature, and is thus correspondent to knowing and experiencing that nature. And since first cause is in all of us, we remain the mystery which unfolds through our choices.

IMO, I believe we have infinite possibilities in 3D, but that the scope of probabilities are restricted. Implying lack of possibility places a limitation that something can never be. At this point we know that many things cannot be NOW, and under current conditions. I believe we are learning to generate the conditions where latent possibilities (the seemingly impossible, but truly improbable) can activate. And I believe we are coming into a more conscious relationship with being vs. non-being.

Some choices are between paths already in existence. Other choices involve emerging new probabilities into existence from non-being (or other densities) and/or eliminating probabilities from being and placing them into non-being, thus bringing their corresponding possibilities into latency. All of this as free will is coherent with our essential nature, at the very core of which lies the ultimate mystery. Inhibiting our essential nature or being divorced from it thus inhibits free will.

I have a personal question to ask here. I am in a situation where I feel as if I “know” what choices my true nature wants me to make, but I am unable to be successful in actually carrying out those choices. For instance, I’ve wanted to quit smoking for some time now…but haven’t been able to make that choice a reality for me.

What’s the deal with that?

I truly think that this one action of quitting will activate latent possibilities that I feel I want to be a part of. So why is it that every time I am presented with the choice to smoke, I choose to smoke? It seems as though I am not able to place priority of my desire to achieve the latent possibilities over my desire to smoke. The kicker is that the desire to smoke isn’t really MY true desire…it’s just something that’s been with me since high school and I am having the hardest time getting rid of it.

I feel as though the discussion here about free-will has a lot to do with my situation. Is there anyone here that can share some insight to my situation or share some advice of some sort?

Thanks in advance…

 

[Z...]

Yes, it is all interesting and I have had similar thoughts as you: that the Mayan calendar is related to cyclic destruction.

Did you watch Apocalypto, by the way?

Some years back I was in Mexico and had an opportunity to view the Mayan art (sculpture, etc) in person. It was very disturbing and I have to say that I was having a really hard time trying to imagine the "soul" of such a culture. If anything, it seemed entirely psychopathic. Watching Apocalypto actually helped since I think that Gibson managed to capture the essence of that culture - and it sure wasn't all that different than the psychopathic reality that rules the U.S. today.

But I was under the impression that culture we today commonly refer to as Mayan and the one Gibson is portraying in his movie has nothing to do with real Mayas who designed calendar. Allegedly these people simply vanished without the trace and primitive tribes who came after usurped their name and produced grotesque replica of their civilization while worshiping bloodthirsty gods

 

[Deleted member 7404]

On the Mayan Calendar End Dates

A few years back I took a trip to Cuzco, Peru. Upon my return I made a discovery regarding some interesting star alignments using Stellarium astronomy software and Google Earth.

It had struck me as curious that some key structures around Cuzco happened to be in the formation of a cross. Currently, there are Christian buildings at these locations, however they were previously Inca worship sites. The main site, Q'oricancha or "Temple of the Sun" was an observatory, and is now referred to as Santo Domingo. The coordinates of the four locations are given below. Note that Q'oricancha (Santo Domingo) is located precisely at 13 31 31 S.

San Blas 13 30 53 S 71 58 27 W
San Cristobal 13 30 48 S 71 58 48 W
San Pedro 13 31 14 S 71 58 58 W
Santo Domingo 13 31 13 S 71 58 31 W

I went into Google Earth and overlaid a star map of the Southern Cross over these four buildings, and found that they aligned quite well. (See attachment 1)

Next, I went into Stellarium wanting to see what the sky view from Q'oricancha would look like at the Mayan calendar end dates.

As you can see in the next picture (see attachment 2), on 21 Dec 12 at 11:11 pm, the Southern Cross is rising, just as Cassiopaea is setting. Curiously, the galactic equator runs right through Orion's Belt at this same moment.

Next up is the same view on 28 Oct 11 at 11:11 am (see attachment 3). Here you can see that Sirius is rising just at that moment.

Now I would like to be clear, I am not promoting either of these dates as significant. They may or may not be. What I find curious is that these types of alignments just "happen" to occur at the times that were given by Calleman and Arguelles.

The story gets even stranger when I came across this article the other day:

_http://www.zimbio.com/Giza+Egypt/articles/YhehdnSuwni/NASA+Cygnus+Osiris+Connection+Egyptian+Pyramids

After reading this, I was curious to see what would happen if I overlaid the Northern Cross (Cygnus) over the same structures in Google Earth as before. Lo and behold there is another match! (see attachment 4)

Then, I went back to Stellarium, and looked for alignments with Cygnus. Found one on 28 Oct 11 at 11:11 pm. Cygnus is rising just as Sirius is setting.

So... I'm not sure what to make of all this, but I have a hard time believing it is all pure "coincidence" or mumbo-jumbo. Thoughts?

 

[Graalsword]

Yes, it is all interesting and I have had similar thoughts as you: that the Mayan calendar is related to cyclic destruction.

Did you watch Apocalypto, by the way?

Some years back I was in Mexico and had an opportunity to view the Mayan art (sculpture, etc) in person. It was very disturbing and I have to say that I was having a really hard time trying to imagine the "soul" of such a culture. If anything, it seemed entirely psychopathic. Watching Apocalypto actually helped since I think that Gibson managed to capture the essence of that culture - and it sure wasn't all that different than the psychopathic reality that rules the U.S. today.

But I was under the impression that culture we today commonly refer to as Mayan and the one Gibson is portraying in his movie has nothing to do with real Mayas who designed calendar. Allegedly these people simply vanished without the trace and primitive tribes who came after usurped their name and produced grotesque replica of their civilization while worshiping bloodthirsty gods

Yeah, I also remember to have read that the original Mayas didn´t even have reptile-like gods of later groups who overtook the same area. They had that "Hunabku" that was allegedly the "central sun of the galaxy". Though now unfortunately the story was taken over by New Agers, you know, Argüelles and friends.