Pseudo-invasion?

Excellent replies guys. Thank you for all the great incite.
I realize that that the Lizzie's, the Grays, and even the Nordics are already here. I guess I was just wondering if there would be that true Hollywood-like invasion, but only as a tool for the 4d STS to be worshipped like propthets or Gods. Some sources have mentioned a fake invasion to further complete the agenda of the NWO.But I definitely understand what you all are saying. Things are already happening in stages. Psychopaths have already invaded and they do enough damage to society on their own. I was really just curious how much of this was just disinformation. The main thing I am trying to focus on is separating the predator from my mind , as I have already started my unveiling process. It's really difficult to see the world as it really is. The insidiousness of things, pretty much since the first real documented UFO sightings and beyond, makes everything seem like its all just gonna explode in our faces, very very soon. Also,
loreta said:
Richard said:
Tigersoap said:
The way I see it is that while your attention is focused on a possible Alien invasion it shifts the focus away from interspecies predator, which is imho, one of the present and clear danger we are all facing but that's just me.

I agree with what you say. Fortunately Sott and other sites keep our focus on the predators. It is difficult to believe so many people ignore sites like this but they simply refuse to see what's clearly in front of them. By the same token, how many people really are fixated on alien and Wilcock type sites? I don't think very many out of the global population. One thing that does somewhat encourage me is the report that in the space of a year CNN lost half its viewership due to the disconnect between what is reported and the facts that are becoming plainly obvious. If these people are turning to the alternative news sources so much the better. (If they're turning to Fox we're deeper in the doo doo than I thought possible.)

Invasion or not invasion what is clear is that we are surrounded by very very mad people, politicians, judges, generals, etc, that are devilish, and for me these people are extra-terrestrials. They are not humans, they hate humanity, they hate people, they love to make us suffer. I was blind to this reality till I came, thank god my dear, here in this site. My eyes in that sense are opening and it hurts but this is this world.

I really don't think also there will be a "fake invasion". This is news for people who believe to be saved while this planet is becoming more and more an inferno. People like to make movies scenarios in their heads because they have seen so many movies about invasions.... I think it is another distraction.
I do not look forward to the day of when the Nephalim and Orion STS reinforcements arrive here from the wave. But I guess it really does not matter, if you are a 4th density candidate, right??
 
If you believe theres an agenda by media/hollywood to get us thinking a certain way, thats one perspective.
I know just about every film about invasions has the aliens as the baddies, wanting to take our planet from us and destroy us, with similar powers to us.
So, lets presume this is BS, and the reverse was true - which is, they are already here, have far superior intelligence, and any invasion would possibly be invisible to us and for the benefit of mankind.
(Im not saying this is how it is, just saying its impossible imo to know what to believe if some kind of invasion visible to humans happened. In my current way of thinking, i think it could be staged.)
But of course, if everything was fine and dandy, how would we all learn our lessons.

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melatonin said:
If you believe theres an agenda by media/hollywood to get us thinking a certain way, thats one perspective.
I know just about every film about invasions has the aliens as the baddies, wanting to take our planet from us and destroy us, with similar powers to us.
So, lets presume this is BS, and the reverse was true - which is, they are already here, have far superior intelligence, and any invasion would possibly be invisible to us and for the benefit of mankind.
(Im not saying this is how it is, just saying its impossible imo to know what to believe if some kind of invasion visible to humans happened. In my current way of thinking, i think it could be staged.)
But of course, if everything was fine and dandy, how would we all learn our lessons.

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From the various things written by Laura, and others, it would seem that the PTB and their mainstream media mouthpieces would like us to get into the idea that we could be invaded by evil aliens as that would give us another enemy to fight against once the other evil enemies hold no power over us. This is to keep people from seeing that psychopaths are the real enemy for us here on 3D, not to exclude the 4D STS entities that hold their strings.

It also keeps us from learning about, or acknowledging the fact, that we could be highly affected by outside catastrophic things such as a comet bombardment or even another ice age. These are things that those in control cannot control, and this is something that they don't want us to know. That they cannot control everything.

At least that is how I see it at this time.
 
Sounds like "project orion" video on dailymotion. Im on my phone, i will seek the links tonight :)
 
We have to remember that any alien group that comes to earth to save us from ourselves is abridging free will. As this is a big no-no in terms of universal law meaning such invasion would be by STS beings, NOT something we would hope for. No matter how much they profess their goodwill towards us they're only invading for their own purposes.

The only reason STO beings would be here would be to stop the Lizzies et al from interfering.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
melatonin said:
If you believe theres an agenda by media/hollywood to get us thinking a certain way, thats one perspective.
I know just about every film about invasions has the aliens as the baddies, wanting to take our planet from us and destroy us, with similar powers to us.
So, lets presume this is BS, and the reverse was true - which is, they are already here, have far superior intelligence, and any invasion would possibly be invisible to us and for the benefit of mankind.
(Im not saying this is how it is, just saying its impossible imo to know what to believe if some kind of invasion visible to humans happened. In my current way of thinking, i think it could be staged.)
But of course, if everything was fine and dandy, how would we all learn our lessons.

Edited - 1 spelling mistake.

From the various things written by Laura, and others, it would seem that the PTB and their mainstream media mouthpieces would like us to get into the idea that we could be invaded by evil aliens as that would give us another enemy to fight against once the other evil enemies hold no power over us. This is to keep people from seeing that psychopaths are the real enemy for us here on 3D, not to exclude the 4D STS entities that hold their strings.

It also keeps us from learning about, or acknowledging the fact, that we could be highly affected by outside catastrophic things such as a comet bombardment or even another ice age. These are things that those in control cannot control, and this is something that they don't want us to know. That they cannot control everything.

At least that is how I see it at this time.

Thanks for that. I have read quite a bit of Laura's work now. Sometimes theres just so much info.........
 
Richard said:
We have to remember that any alien group that comes to earth to save us from ourselves is abridging free will. As this is a big no-no in terms of universal law meaning such invasion would be by STS beings, NOT something we would hope for. No matter how much they profess their goodwill towards us they're only invading for their own purposes.

The only reason STO beings would be here would be to stop the Lizzies et al from interfering.

Actually, STO beings wouldn't stop the lizzies from interfering because that would abridge the lizzie's free will. The lizzies will do what they will do just as humanity will do what it will do - STO gives all to those who ask, but they don't 'stop' anyone from doing anything, to my understanding.
 
anart said:
Actually, STO beings wouldn't stop the lizzies from interfering because that would abridge the lizzie's free will. The lizzies will do what they will do just as humanity will do what it will do - STO gives all to those who ask, but they don't 'stop' anyone from doing anything, to my understanding.

Yes, that makes perfectly logical sense. The C's say battles are taking place between STS and STO which manifest as 'weather'. Did they ever say why these battles are being fought?
 
Richard said:
Yes, that makes perfectly logical sense. The C's say battles are taking place between STS and STO which manifest as 'weather'. Did they ever say why these battles are being fought?

From Michael Topper:
[quote author=Precis on The Good and The Evil]Because the STO contingent honors and conserves the realization of consciousness in all forms and under all conditions, it has greater resources to sustain creation. It has access to an even more powerful allegiance of unified conscious resolve and collective intent so that the negative hierarchy is met with resistance at every turn. And this STO resistance is a great deal more in harmony and alignment with the Logoic pattern so that it possesses the sum value of the Creative as Its enforcement.[/quote]

Since STS is in constant need of energy, there’s probably a constant bidding process being resisted.

[quote author=Precis on The Good and The Evil]"Bidding" is a contest of will, rendering the consciousness that obeys into enslavement through its own free will. It is a command of obedience, precisely such as that issued without explanation against Strieber’s lust for sweets. It’s sole purpose is to bend the subject into accepting the command, the actual content of the order being largely beside the point. […]

To possess a legion of servants in this way is an actual nourishment to the centers and systems of 4th density; a kind of "food-chain pyramid." […][/quote]

It’s my understanding that 4D STO can’t always give to what STS asks without ruining the integrity of being STO.
 
Richard said:
Yes, that makes perfectly logical sense. The C's say battles are taking place between STS and STO which manifest as 'weather'. Did they ever say why these battles are being fought?

Yes, though I think you might be applying a 3rd density interpretation to 'battle'. I don't have the transcript in front of me, but, to paraphrase, the idea the C's presented is that STO gives all to those that ask, including to STS, but they can't 'give all' to STS because what STS really seeks is to manipulate and control everything (including STO), which STO cannot allow, else STO would no longer be able to give all to those who ask if it allowed 'itself' to be manipulated by STS. (there is some inaccurate personification going on here in this explanation) So, there is what we would consider 'conflict' at that point.

I'm absolutely certain that this is not the extent of it, though - and that there are more aspects to all of this than I can even imagine. I think Jerry's input might help clarify as well.
 
Jerry said:
It’s my understanding that 4D STO can’t always give to what STS asks without ruining the integrity of being STO.

I found it interesting what whas said in the Ra-material concerning these battles. Maybe it should be taken with a grain of salt, but it gives an interesting perspective on these things:

From 'The Law of One, Book I', page 221-223:
Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and of a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle is fought?

Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things.
In this endeavor the Orion group charges or attacks the Confederation armed with light. The result, a stand-off, as you would call it, both energies being somewhat depleted by this and needing to regroup; the negative depleted through failure to manipulate, the positive depleted through failure to accept that which is given.

Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you mean by the “failure to accept that which is given”?

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded and engulfed, transformed by positive energies.
This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.
It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement.

Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup. It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

Questioner: Does a portion of the Confederation then engage in this thought-battle? What percent engages?

Ra: I am Ra. This is the most difficult work of the Confederation. Only four planetary entities at any one time are asked to partake in this conflict.

Questioner: What density are these four planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are of the density of love, numbering four.

Questioner: Would an entity of this density be more effective for this work than an entity of density five or six?

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is the only density besides your own which, lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, sees the necessity of the battle. Thus it is necessary that fourth-density social memory complexes be used.

Questioner: Am I correct in assuming that both the Confederation and the Orion group utilize only their fourth densities in this battle, and that the fifth and sixth densities of the Orion group do not engage in this?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question as this entity’s energies are low.
It is partially correct. Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict.
 
Thanks Jerry and anart both.

Yes, I'm undoubtedly thinking in 3D terms but that shouldn't surprise anyone :lol:

Conflict is probably the better term.

My memory keeps going back to the fact that 4D STO have no problems living on earth unlike the 4D STS beings, that they're here for a purpose and the sense I got while reading the transcripts is that they're here to help. Coupled with the fact that 3D Nephilim and who knows what else are on the way and that they will be bringing war with them and there is no way we can stand up to them ourselves, I can't but help conclude that STO will have to take part in the fray.

I got the impression that 6D cannot but that 4D can.

I may have mistaken the "bringing war" bit, but again, that was the sense I got from the transcripts.

Q: Now, you have told us that there ARE 36 million Nephilim on the way.

A: Nephilim are 3rd density; big difference.

I can't find what I'm looking for but the Nephilim are nasty dudes and I'd be amazed if they were on an ambassadorial trip.

The Ra channeling says there is a quarantine on the earth and that the guardians keep trouble out unless a window is found. Perhaps they'll keep the nasties away and perhaps this is the extent to which they can help.

I guess in the end it's "open".

Am I reading stuff into the transcripts I shouldn't?

And thanks Aragorn...your post came in as I was sending..
It is partially correct. Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict.

So as the battle rages in 4D we see the effects through weather and earth changes? Again, that leaves the Nephilim.......................
 
Richard said:
Coupled with the fact that 3D Nephilim and who knows what else are on the way and that they will be bringing war with them and there is no way we can stand up to them ourselves, I can't but help conclude that STO will have to take part in the fray.

Wars have been ''brought to earth'' in many ways, and for millennia. And it might be getting worse as it goes.

4D STO's might play their part in things, but it's difficult for us to imagine what kind of part that would be and how that goes.
You may be thinking about a possible future outcome of 4D STO's warriors battling side by side with you and killing some Nephilim bad guys, but that may be a limited view at things, which can lead one to turn a blind eye to what is happening now and here with real monsters that are right here in front of us, i.e. psychopaths. And these monsters could very well be the "Nephilim".

From Session 22 July 2010:

Q: (L) Well, yeah. We were talking about the Nephalim and their stun guns and that sort of thing. But it looks like psychopaths are the new Nephalim, and they're already using stun guns - tasers. And then we asked if they were going to try to stage a fake alien invasion. All of this disclosure business is trying to point people in the direction of alien invasions, trying to get them prepared for some kind of fake alien invasion. Then you said yes, but a real invasion might take place first or earth changes would happen. Now, it's just been pressing on my mind, becoming more and more clear, that we don't NEED an alien invasion with psychopaths ruling this world as their transdimensional agents. And it has occurred to me that when you said that way back when, that basically the invasion has already occurred! It's here, now. It's psychopaths in power!

Everybody is looking and waiting for some kind of aliens; well, aliens are a supernatural phenomenon. Yeah, there is a certain physicality to it, but it strikes me that that physicality doesn't have... what do I want to say? Endurance? It doesn't "vibrate" right in our reality. It can come and go, but it doesn't stay here. So they need agents. They've always needed agents. They've always needed human-looking beings to control, to manipulate, or to even "download into" in a funny sort of way, like a possession or an activation. It's like they're sitting at some control console in some hyperdimensional place controlling their agents the way we control remote control toys.

So anyhow, this is what I've been thinking. Everybody's waiting for something to happen, like disclosure, or after disclosure. But it's already happened. It's here NOW! Any so-called “disclosure” will be a fraud unless they come out and say that it is a supernatural or hyper-dimensional phenomenon, which they are NOT going to say because that completely counters their entire world view that worships the physical universe. That’s where the whole Darwinism, material science, exclusion of scientific study of the paranormal, and so forth, comes from. That sort of thing can NEVER be studied honestly because it would destroy their reality construct.

(Perceval) That's a great screen.

(L) Yeah, they're trying to prepare people for physical, material aliens – “Disclosure” - because they're going to TRY to pull the alien invasion trick or the "alien god" trick and they'll say, "Worship the alien god! Join behind us! We're his high priests!" But it's not going to work.

(Perceval) It's almost like that's been held in reserve if it's necessary. They've prepped people with the idea of aliens.

(L) It's like this gigantic counterintelligence program. And the main thing that I've seen them working to counter is the idea, the concept, the understanding that this phenomenon is a supernatural one. To make that clear, what we have always called supernatural, which is not necessarily "supernatural", is really just hyperdimensional. We've been aware of these things – this other reality – for millennia. They come and go. It's like the finger in Flatland. We're Flatland! Am I on to something with this?

A: About as accurate as you can get without making direct predictions.
 
Ekios said:
Nienna Eluch said:
From the various things written by Laura, and others, it would seem that the PTB and their mainstream media mouthpieces would like us to get into the idea that we could be invaded by evil aliens as that would give us another enemy to fight against once the other evil enemies hold no power over us. This is to keep people from seeing that psychopaths are the real enemy for us here on 3D, not to exclude the 4D STS entities that hold their strings.
Sounds like "project orion" video on dailymotion. Im on my phone, i will seek the links tonight :)
So, I found back my "Project Orion" video on dailymotion but I don't know why it has no sound and the streaming is terribly low. I found it back on youtube here : _url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4xKFW5maRY

It has been made in French, but I found you an english version.

The purpose of this sharing is the conclusion of the video saying that the superpowers in place would create a fake UFO invasion to lead the world together (but not in a nice way).

The rest of that video don't follow at all the C's material and is quite messy in fact.

note: mod wrote out link and disabled it due to custom
 

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