Psycho Test

Wow. I don't think I could have come up with the answer no matter how much time I spent. I also tried to use normal people's motivations (i.e., jealousy, etc.).

This test says it all.
 
But we didn't test it on a known psychopath. Maybe a trip over to GodLikeProductions is in order... I heard a bunch of shady characters often frequent the place.
 
I tried it on a few people today and everyone was totally stumped and then totally shocked when I gave them the answer. The test is a great, quick lesson in psychopathy, I think.
 
Funny - Someone sent me that once before, but I still got it wrong again! Not that that's a bad thing!
 
Laura said:
Read this question, come up with an answer and then scroll down to the bottom for the result. This is not a trick question. It is as it reads. No one I know has got it right - including me.

A woman, while at the funeral of her own mother, met a man she didn't know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy, that she believed him to be just that! She fell in love with him right there, but never asked for his number and couldn't find him. A few days later she killed her sister.

Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?

(Give this some thought before you answer).

Answer: She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again.
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After about a minute of thinking about this question, including thinking about the possibility that the woman killed her sister because she found out that her sister had developed a relationship with the man (which I dismissed because of the fact that that explanation would not result in a meaningful plot ending), I thought something along the lines of "No, it can't be her committing the murder of her sister hoping the guy goes to the funeral again, but it's the only reasonable explanation I can come up with.". I then scrolled down to the answer to find out, to my own horror, that I was right.

Laura said:
If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. I've been told that this was a test by a famous American Psychologist used to test if one has the same mentality as a killer.

Supposedly, many arrested serial killers took part in the test and answered the question correctly. If you didn't answer the question correctly good for you.
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I then started to think about what the fact that I answered this question correctly meant. What it said about me. I must admit that it shook my confidence quite a bit. I started doubting my own psychological make up, and thought that maybe I am severely infected by the psychopathic mindset. The thought that I myself could be a psychopath crossed my mind, and I was horrified at the idea, but I dismissed it as a possibility when considering the fact that I experience a number of feelings and emotions in my daily life that are not ascribed to the psychopathic mind. As far as I know most if not all of my mentality is quite healthy and normal, although still very very mechanical.

I think this question is good way of testing if one is able to 'have the mentality of a killer', although I don't think this test is a conclusive one on diagnosing psychopathy in anyone. So I do not, generally speaking, "think as a psychopath" all day, nor do I have the overall "mentality of a killer", as I at first mistakenly read your words, leading to the shaken confidence experience I detailed above. But yes, I am capable, if only a little bit, on taking on that mindset.

I think it has to do with taking enough distance to a certain subject (in this case, the story about the woman) and explore all the options, including the option of people doing horrible things for measly or improbable gain that I am incapable of doing. I think that reading the information on the signs page for a few years, as well as the various articles about or relating to psychopathy, as well as discussions on this forum (the latest learning experience being the thread about Marie's staying with Neema and Nina) gave me enough knowledge of this deviant mindset to use it in exploring possible motives the woman could have.

Laura said:
If you got the answer correct, please let me know...
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I hereby did :)
 
In originally scanning of this thread, I answered the question but did not reply because I felt stupid.

My original answer was also stupid. I imagine she must have been mad because her sister did not find out who he was or know how to get ahold of him for her. Then she seeded a thought of contempt that her sister was hiding something and working against her.
 
Failed, I was considering that it was a fit of jealousy, or that the sister knew and did not want to tell etc. If I had thought about it for a few days or weeks like a kind of riddle maybe I could have got it, but asked for a quick answer I basically was disgusted with the thought of a sister killing a sister and the emotions blocked from thinking really rationally like the Mechanic did. There is something true in what he writes:
Mechanic said:
I think it has to do with taking enough distance to a certain subject (in this case, the story about the woman) and explore all the options, including the option of people doing horrible things for measly or improbable gain that I am incapable of doing. I think that reading the information on the signs page for a few years, as well as the various articles about or relating to psychopathy, as well as discussions on this forum (the latest learning experience being the thread about Marie's staying with Neema and Nina) gave me enough knowledge of this deviant mindset to use it in exploring possible motives the woman could have.
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If one becomes really wise as a serpent and really gentle as a dove, would one not be able to figure this kind of riddles out without being a psychopath? I tend to believe that is possible.
 
Additional thoughts about this test:

Two people I know who I KNOW are not psychopaths, came up with the correct answer. When the first one was asked how she did it, she responded quite simply: "What kind of person would be thinking about romance at the funeral of her own mother?! Obviously, it was a psychopath and therefore the answer had to be that she thought that killing her sister would bring the guy back."

Well, I have to say that this obvious clue at the very beginning slipped right by me.

The second person went through the problem like setting up a math problem more or less like SeekingObjectivity did (see: http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/profile.php?id=1767) only shorter, and also came up with the right solution as a "pattern recognition" thing. He established the "pattern" and then saw it repeating.

Okay.... well, that was quite a surprise and we had a little discussion about it and the main question was "Why couldn't I and so many others see the solution since, as the first person noted, the main clue was right at the beginning - a person who was pursuing a romance at the funeral of her mother?

The answer was disturbing.

It's not so much that those of us that don't get it do not think like a psychopath, but that those of us that don't get it project our own thinking onto others and do not really understand at a deep, visceral, automatic level that there are humans that are not like us: intraspecies predators. In short, we lack something very important for our own protection.
 
Yes, failed too.

I think that a common problem is that we think everybody are like us and thus look for an emotional reason such as a great injustice, jealousy or betrayal to explain such an act as murder. The hardwired programming kicks in and it ignores that there are people out there, who are definately not like us, despite the evidence. It is especially surprising since it says psycho test, so one would think that one would look outside the circle.

Just yesterday, a nurse who works in a high security prison with mostly psychopaths and to whom I had lent the book "political ponerology", wrote me an email where she expressed the thought that SOTT was making too much of a mainstream sensationalism out of it.

I must say that I think that it is totally warranted, which the test sort of showed since so few got the answer. Keep those articles flowing, such as http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/129924-Environment+of+Evil

Credit to SeekingObjectivity for the thoughtful analysis of the test.
 
Anders said:
... since it says psycho test...
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Ah, yes, thanks... I didn't even realise it until you pointed it out. And perhaps more people are influenced by the thread title being "Psycho Test". From that to "the woman in the story is a psychopath" isn't that much of a thought leap I guess.

Those people Laura knows, who are not psychopaths though nevertheless came up with the correct answer, I presume they weren't told beforehand it was a psycho test?
 
Anders said:
Just yesterday, a nurse who works in a high security prison with mostly psychopaths and to whom I had lent the book "political ponerology", wrote me an email where she expressed the thought that SOTT was making too much of a mainstream sensationalism out of it.
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By 'mainstream sensationalism', you mean that she thinks applying psychopathic influence to macro-social levels is 'sensational'? I think that's what you were relating. Perhaps she thinks psychopaths are limited to violent criminals given that's her environment. It is indeed a scary thought that such individuals are running our world, particularly if you interact with these types on such a close level as she does. Perhaps if she's open, she should read "snakes in suits" or "the Sociopath Next Door," which both expand on the non-(physically)violent psychopath.
 
Shane said:
Anders said:
Just yesterday, a nurse who works in a high security prison with mostly psychopaths and to whom I had lent the book "political ponerology", wrote me an email where she expressed the thought that SOTT was making too much of a mainstream sensationalism out of it.
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By 'mainstream sensationalism', you mean that she thinks applying psychopathic influence to macro-social levels is 'sensational'? I think that's what you were relating. Perhaps she thinks psychopaths are limited to violent criminals given that's her environment. It is indeed a scary thought that such individuals are running our world, particularly if you interact with these types on such a close level as she does. Perhaps if she's open, she should read "snakes in suits" or "the Sociopath Next Door," which both expand on the non-(physically)violent psychopath.
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Hi Shane,

Yes, when I first met her through my wife, she mentioned in regards to her work, that she felt like she was studying evil. As it was so unusual to hear such a remark, I sent her files on ponerology, here from the Forum and Laura's blog and later the book by Lobaczewski. In these files were also references and exerpts from some of of the books that deals with the issue. She has now had the book on Ponerology and I trust that she will find what she needs. The water is there now, so if there is a real thirst then drinking should come by itself.

Seeing a psychopath operate in one's own life can be such a powerful experience, especially when it is joined with understanding about what is happening or rather what happened, that it gets very easy to see, how it operates on a macro-social level. Then it dawns that the ones in prison are just the failed ones, and that they are just the very tip of the iceberg of a huge societal problem, that is not yet recognised.

Or so I think,

Anders
 
I didn't get that right. I thought that guy spoke "hidden" code to her in order to kill her sister. Hmm, I guess I'm that paranoid.
 
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