Psychomantium Mirrors - Past, Present, Future?

[Persej]

This ChatGPT thing is really strange sometimes. I asked it about my theory, and here is what it said:

Question: If there are 5 light sources with a 10 Hz flicker, randomly flickering in relation to each other, what is the maximum and minimum frequency of their combined flicker?

Answer: If there are five light sources, each flickering at 10 Hz and randomly out of phase with one another, the combined flicker will be a superposition of their individual patterns. Here's the breakdown:

Maximum Frequency:

The maximum flicker frequency is determined by the intrinsic flicker frequency of each light source, which is 10 Hz in this case. Random phase relationships between the lights cannot increase the intrinsic flicker frequency. Therefore, the maximum combined flicker frequency is 10 Hz.

Minimum Frequency:

If the flicker of the light sources is perfectly out of phase and they cancel each other out, the combined flicker could theoretically produce a lower apparent flicker frequency, potentially as low as 0 Hz (no flicker). This occurs in cases where destructive interference leads to a steady combined output. Hence, the minimum frequency of the combined flicker is 0 Hz.

Summary:

Maximum combined flicker frequency: 10 Hz
Minimum combined flicker frequency: 0 Hz

These values result from the nature of superposition, where the lights’ out-of-phase interactions can either align (constructive interference) or cancel out (destructive interference).

That didn't seem right to me, so I asked it the same question, but this time using the mini version of 4-o model. And here is what it said:

When considering the combined flicker of 5 light sources, each with a 10 Hz flicker frequency and flickering randomly in relation to each other, the resulting flicker frequency range will depend on how the individual frequencies align. Here's the reasoning:

Maximum Frequency: When the individual flickers are completely in phase (meaning they all flicker together at exactly the same moment), their combined flicker is simply 10 Hz. However, if their flickers were to combine in such a way that they are perfectly out of phase, the flicker could theoretically add up to a frequency much higher than the individual frequency. Since the flickers are all 10 Hz, the maximum combined frequency would occur if each flicker is perfectly aligned in a way that adds all their cycles together. This could give a maximum frequency of 50 Hz (5 times the 10 Hz flicker).

Minimum Frequency: If the flickers are perfectly out of phase, such that they cancel each other out completely, you could experience a situation where the lights flicker very slowly or even appear to be stationary. This would give the minimum frequency of 0 Hz, indicating no perceptible flicker, essentially a steady light.

Therefore, the combined flicker frequency can range from 0 Hz (if they cancel out completely) to 50 Hz (if they are perfectly in phase).

This version seems to be correct to me.

 

[katarinak]

But it's interesting when you think about it. Perhaps candle flicker could be used as a form of brain therapy, just like LED flicker is used for different issues.

I find this a very interesting idea. Sleep vs. insomnia is often associated with a lot of a constant stream of thoughts that won't and won't stop. Maybe candles and maybe meditation has a role to play in this. I'm curious to see where this goes myself.

Well, a black cloth would have absorbed a lot of light. That is perhaps a reason behind the black curtains. It also absorbs sound, so it makes a room both silent and dark.

The room is repainted dark and so is the ceiling. The door is also covered with dark blankets and there are no windows. The first attempt with psychomantium was still in the room with white walls and so the difference is huge. The feeling in the dark room is as if there is more peace and quiet that one has there. Since the room is just repainted, there is no additional insulation because of the noise, so sometimes I perceive noises from the surroundings.

Try to block the light with something.

ok, I'll try to experiment more with the placement of the candles. Still the question remains, how much should the mirror be illuminated? I'm just going by my feelings, how it looks best to me.

I think it's more important how you gaze into the mirror than paying attention to your blinking. But I still haven't gotten that far, I am still experimenting with the light.

yes, it looks similar to me. I was confused by this tratak

 

[Persej]

The room is repainted dark and so is the ceiling. The door is also covered with dark blankets and there are no windows. The first attempt with psychomantium was still in the room with white walls and so the difference is huge. The feeling in the dark room is as if there is more peace and quiet that one has there.

Well, you could paint the walls of jars so that the only light from them comes from the top. Or use some ceramic jars. That would reduce the amount of light.

Since the room is just repainted, there is no additional insulation because of the noise, so sometimes I perceive noises from the surroundings.

Noise could also be distracting. Russians in their experiments used noise-canceling headphones.

 

[katarinak]

Noise could also be distracting. Russians in their experiments used noise-canceling headphones.

It's an interesting observation, at first I thought of wall and ceiling soundproofing or acoustic panels, which I perceive working very well when we play instruments. Then it popped into my head and I remembered a video I saw a long time ago, I found it, so I'm sharing it.
When meditating, not only the sounds from our surroundings but also our inner thoughts are like those annoying flies in the video, trying to distract us from meditation.

I have noticed that normally when I meditate, one seems to be better able to create a sense of calm and balance within oneself and to be a sort of observer of one's thoughts without dwelling on them. Maybe it helps that the eyes are closed as well. Conversely, I find it much harder to maintain calm and balance when meditating with my eyes open. It seems to me that a multitude of thoughts flood the mind as if they are all waiting when the time comes to meditate in psychomantium. Then those occasional noises from the surroundings are almost rare compared to what is going on in our mind.

This is where I see the most room for improvement so far, it's very hard not to have expectations when you're embarking on something new. Probably nobody starts doing a new thing with the expectation that it will not bring any result. And as the C's say it's good to embrace all possibilities, it's not easy. I try to think of meditation in psychomancy as meditation, which in itself is very useful in these hectic times. But I still catch myself subconsciously creating expectations.

Have a nice day Persej and thank you for our discussions, I like them.

 

[Persej]

Last night I was again experimenting with my candle, and it didn't want to flicker. It would give a slight flicker, but only occasionally. So I left it burning, hoping that it would eventually start to flicker once it warms up. And after some time I started feeling sick again. I wondered why am I feeling sick when the candle is not flickering, and I am also in a brightly lit room, so whatever flicker it gives from time to time it is very mild?

And then I figured out that I was not feeling sick because of flicker, but because of fumes that candle was producing. This candle is made from paraffin, which never gave me problems before, but I never used a pillar candle before, so I suppose that in a stick candle most of the paraffin is burned up, but in a pillar a lot of it evaporates from the pool of melted wax and fills the room with toxic fumes.

So I cannot continue experimenting with these candles, and the only ones with the stearin that I can find are stick candles, so I will have to experiment with those kinds.

 

[Persej]

This is where I see the most room for improvement so far, it's very hard not to have expectations when you're embarking on something new. Probably nobody starts doing a new thing with the expectation that it will not bring any result. And as the C's say it's good to embrace all possibilities, it's not easy. I try to think of meditation in psychomancy as meditation, which in itself is very useful in these hectic times. But I still catch myself subconsciously creating expectations.

Yes, it's not easy. That is why flicker is important.

In a further embodiment, a process of stimulating the two hemispheres of the brain with two dissimilar frequencies is performed, as described above, wherein the two frequencies are within, for example, 0.1 and 3 Hz of each other. The use of two close yet different frequencies, hereinafter referred to as dissociation frequencies, has the effect of dissociating the subject from awareness of body and mind. This dissociation is similar to that experienced during, for example, hypnosis or meditation. The process is found to be particularly useful in reducing symptoms of anxiety, panic or depression. Applying dissociation frequencies to the hemispheres of the brain functions to block fearful, worrying or destructive thoughts and relax and stabilize the subject. This process is also effective for improving sleep as it reduces mental chatter, caused by anxiety and daily events that interfere with sleep.

US20050149144A1 - Stimulation of central nervous system - Google Patents

The present invention provides a method of stimulating the central nervous system and brain waves of a human subject by stimulating a beta frequency in the left brain hemisphere while simultaneously stimulating a low beta frequency in the right brain hemisphere and subsequently stimulating the...

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[katarinak]

Last night I was again experimenting with my candle, and it didn't want to flicker. It would give a slight flicker, but only occasionally.

You wrote that you had a candle flickering in the fishbowl. For me, those jars work very well and the candles flicker permanently. I have been using this model for about a week. I chose the jars because of inspiration from our discussions and the videos you shared. Isn't there a lot of space around the candle in the fishbowl?

And after some time I started feeling sick again. I wondered why am I feeling sick when the candle is not flickering, and I am also in a brightly lit room, so whatever flicker it gives from time to time it is very mild?

If it's because of the smell, other candles can be used - stearin candles or Beeswax candles. It occurred to me that it might also be from within us. In the beginning, I was concerned about whether psychomantium was safe. Probably not really, but I perceive that circumstances, people and situations don't come into our lives by chance. So I embraced psychomantium as a sort of open-ended experiment. It took me a while to shake off my fears and insecurities. I think we should be aware of our inner voice and feelings.

 

[katarinak]

Persej said: "This dissociation is similar to that experienced during, for example, hypnosis or meditation." - From this it just follows to me that it is enough to meditate properly to dissociate the subject from awareness of body and mind. And so the flickering candles are like just an aid for the dissociation of the body and mind to happen earlier or without meditation.

Yesterday I was reading a thread in The Economist - 2025 cover, where someone wrote about Krzysztof Jackowski - Polish Clairvoyant. Mr Jackowski, if I remember correctly, he is sitting in a room and looking at a white wall and having visions. This made me think again that meditation is the key to see, the dark room and the flickering candles are like helpers. I know the C's have said the key is the flickering of the candle. Yes, I see it that the flickering is the key to make it easier for one to reach a state of disconnection from the body and mind, and then to reach a deep state of meditation that allows one to see