Psychopaths in our psyche

[Serendipity]

I just want to start this subject cause it might prove good discussion material about the issue how are psychopaths affecting our psyche,perception,emotions etc.
In my opinion every souled human has some awareness of existence of psychopaths,and as children we could recognised them quite well,but after being programmed by parents and society ,that awareness becomes supressed deep into our subconsciousness, and we become more and more confused and emotionally drained and in our daily lives,and only time we can digest and rest from emotional/energetic abuses are during our sleep(like cassiopaeans said),in our dreams.

There is one dream that I dreamt as child on many occasion.It was about zombies, more preciselly that people were zombies and sometimes I was alone and surrounded by them.Most horrifying dream and very meaningfull as even then i knew it wasnt 'just a dream' ,it wasn't like other dreams from my early childhood, flying around saving people and fighting bad monsters with other people like me. That was dream I dreamt every night and it was in episodes most of the time and it wasnt scary but very interesting and amusing.But after started going to elementary school, less and less I had these wonderfull dreams in which I felt so unbound and free and more and more dreams I was having had darker atmosphere surrounding em,like these zombies and running away from someone/something.I was reminded of this dreams cause last night after spending few hours reading one of Laura's book from wave series,I got the same feeling I had while in dreams as child, freedom, hope,joy and some different state of awareness aswell.Then I went to sleep and intended to drean like when I was child and I did dream that I'm flying but that dog was below me and running after me and i was scared of the dog,and after having one dream where dog appeared in middle of it and bit me I woke up paralysed and feeling in my gut something is attacking me, also I heard animals in dreams represent non human creatures of all sorts.

It's curious that there are quite alot movies about zomibes,especially recently,like resident evil for example.And not to mention games,in every game ganre most popular enemy to fight are zombies!
Is it our psyche/subconsciousness that is alerting us about Psychopaths,or more accurate OPs?
These are some of my thoughts about this issue and I'd like to hear your thoughts and experiences,and I hope it's usefull topic,I'm really new here and on forums in general. Knowledge protects :)

 

[Gawan]

Hello Improvise,

I just want to start this subject cause it might prove good discussion material about the issue how are psychopaths affecting our psyche,perception,emotions etc.

To answer this question, eventually Lobaczewskis book Political Ponerology could be of help, cause he explains the process of ponerization and how psychopaths effect society in a large scale. See here: http://www.ponerology.com

And Sandra L. Brown, explains in her book Women who love psychopaths, how women get affected by a psychopath to stay with him (in an unhealthy relationship), to explain it in a few words, it is like the stockholm-syndrom and cognitive dissonance.

FWIW

 

[Serendipity]

Thank you, Gawan.
Ill get to it then, I'm not a women though but I'm sure it is usefull book to read for both genders :)

 

[mada85]

Psychopaths,or more accurate OPs

I would say that psychopaths and OPs, while both being a type of human being, are not necessarily the same thing. OPs are intended to the be the vehicle for consciousness evolving from 2D to 3D, and when the world is in its ideal state, are here to learn from souled beings about the attributes of the higher centres. This, to my mind, implies that they would have intact some brain circuits to allow them to experience empathy and similar sensations, even though they do not have the higher centres. Psychopaths however do not have an empathy circuit, and therefore are a somewhat different breed. I'm sure others here with more knowledge will chime in if I'm way off the mark.

 

[obyvatel]

Hi Improvise,
Another book that could help shed some light on the effect of psychopathology on society and individuals is Paul Levy's "Wetiko: The Greatest Epidemic Sickness Known to Humanity". Levy looks at psychopathology and ponerology from a Jungian perspective. The book is available in pdf from his website _http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wetiko/

 

[Serendipity]

Hi Endymion
Maybe i expessed my thoughts wrong,I did meant OPs.I aimed to open a question for discussion about how are OPs affect our psyche, or maybe our energy body and how faar reaches our awareness of the same.I might be wrong in suggesting that OPs make some effect(potentially negative) on our beings,but if it indeed is the case then we must be aware of their influence on our energy/psyche dont you agree?

Thx for books you suggested,obyvatel
Altough my initial intention by opening this subjest was to start discussion about more specific kind of influence OPs possibly exert on souled beings,not in general society terms cause that type of their influence is more more then obvious today on global scale. I mean I meant kinds of influences interacting with them in our daily lives that can be experienced in our psyche/energy/ethereal body.
Sorry If I'm writing foolishly,I'm not baked noodle though :P

 

[obyvatel]

Altough my initial intention by opening this subjest was to start discussion about more specific kind of influence OPs possibly exert on souled beings,not in general society terms cause that type of their influence is more more then obvious today on global scale. I mean I meant kinds of influences interacting with them in our daily lives that can be experienced in our psyche/energy/ethereal body.

Hi Improvise,
You may want to take a look at the cassiopedia entry on organic portals and this thread for some information and discussion on the topic of OPs. An important point to remember is that before someone seriously undertakes esoteric work and makes some progress in that path, there is no discernible difference between a potentially souled human being and an organic portal.

The initial post you made indicated you were referring to psychopaths. The effect that a psychopath has on a normal person or society at large has been discussed in the books suggested to you as well as the books under narcissism and psychopathy sections in the recommended books thread. For example "Unholy Hungers" deals with this issue somewhat from an energetic standpoint for an individual while "In Sheep's Clothing" discusses the effect of pathological people on the mind of an individual. "Political Ponerology" has more of a broad social focus. "Wetiko" touches upon the effect of pathology on both individuals and society.

As such the question you have raised is too broad in scope - so the suggestions for the reading materials. As you go through some of the suggested reading material, your understanding of this complex topic will get better and you can discuss more specific questions or thoughts.

 

[Serendipity]

obyvatel, you may have missunderstood me or i missinterpreted my intention for discusion. I did mean about OPs in general a.k.a antropoids a.k.a humanoids(without soul) that work perfectly and do their job and use or as cass said 4D STS do it throught them,take energy from souled beings and manipulet their lives,mimic their higher energy centers.I read enough of the subject to have enough knowledge to try think and discuss about the subject,I think,so I'm not total newbie you see :D
Let me try explain.Teoretically,If I am souled human, and if I as child,and perhaps all souled children could have feel and know OPs from people with souls and I dreamt about OPs as 'zombies' cause that is how childs 'psyche' might have pictured them,and then with childhood traumas,parental and social programming and getting false 'I' or more then one 'I' that natural soul ability to recognise soul from non soul(OP)
inside someone(body) gets more and more clouded.
I am not saying that I'm special cause that would be saying of my'false I' but I knew from early childhood that I was different, I was great at math,had high IQ for my age,thirsted for knowledge since i was 5(watched documentaries and science movies before cartoons) and since elementary school had feeling that something is wrong with people and society,I thought how can they be so stupid and act like that(ofcourse I learned later that I wasnt immune to corruption either). Ok my point is later that feeling even tho it was just feeling that I might have had as kid got clouded and forgotten and all that left of it now is fear Thats what I want to say, since I was kid I have fear of human parties,irratioanal fear and feeling of unease.I felt more natural and free in solitude then in groups of people so I became little asocial. Curious thing that I'm not fearfull person,If I was alone in middle of forest at night surrounded by wolves I wouldnt be afraid,I'm pretty sure. And some irrational fear of 'people' still haunts me,but much less now then before thanks to finding cassiopaeans and thus knowledge :)

 

[anart]

Hi Improvise, it would be a big help if you could put paragraph spacing in your posts. They are hard on the eyes as written. Have you read the entire Wave Series and Secret History of the World yet?

I think getting some more information under your belt would help you.

 

[Serendipity]

Thx for advice anart,
I'll try use paragraphs from now on :)
I have read almost whole "Wave series",haven't read "Secret history of the world" yet though, so I'll go back to doing my homework then.

 

[anart]

Thx for advice anart,
I'll try use paragraphs from now on :)
I have read almost whole "Wave series",haven't read "Secret history of the world" yet though, so I'll go back to doing my homework then.

The information in those books tends to really widen ones perception - it opens doors, as it were - to different possibilities and explanations about what we think we already understand about the world, and ourselves. It's really worth the time spent, so glad you've started.