Psychopathy Questions

[Approaching Infinity]

Over the last couple years the C's have made some statements about psychopathy:

(12/29/09)
"Psychopathy is characterized by a supreme lack of insight."

(11/28/09)
"They do have a sort of "emotion". Hunger for darkness."

(09/03/08)
They are defective OPs because they are born the way they are.

Sometimes childhood experiences also make them "defective".

Caused by "genetics due to mutation" on "more than one occasion, but first time was 50,000 years ago."

At certain times in human history their numbers increase as they take over a planet, "very similar" to how populations of predators and prey fluctuate in nature.

"One strain" of psychopathy, "the kind with the drive to destroy", came about from the crossing of Neanderthal and Aryan types.

This leads to a bunch of questions:

- As their numbers have been growing, what percentage of the world's population are what we would classify as "essential psychopaths"?

- Is the ratio different in different countries? What about just in the US? UK? Israel?

- In the '50s and '60s, 6% of Poland's population was psychopathic or characteropathic. What is the percentage of all these personality disorders now?

- In the past, the leading cause of dangerous characteropathy was frontal lobe dysfunction due to birth trauma. What is the leading cause of characteropathy in our time?

I'm also unclear about a few of the things the C's said above. Perhaps these can be answered without the C's. For example,

- When they say that different types of psychopathy occurred due to mutations at different times, do they mean different subtypes of "essential psychopathy" or different psychopathies entirely (e.g. schizoid, asthenic, skirtoid, etc.)?

The answer to the above could clear some things up. For example, according to the FOTCM SOP, psychopathy didn't exist before approximately 12,500 years ago, yet the C's said the first mutation was 50,000 years ago, and that the type "driven to destroy" was created by mating Neanderthal and Aryan types (presumably 80,000 years ago). So,

- Did essential psychopathy exist before 12,500 years ago? If so, did the Paleolithic peoples simply know how to deal with it? If not, what were the results of the previous mutations?

The C's have listed some characteristics of psychopathy: "supreme lack of insight", "hunger for darkness", but also a trait specific to one type (i.e. "the kind driven to destroy" caused by Neanderthal/Aryan mating).

- Are all essential psychopaths basically sadistic (whether in emotional and/or physical torment)? Or are some more apathetic, like Cleckley hypothesized?

- Are OPs the only humans susceptible to the mutations that caused psychopathy? Is that why they're "failed OPs"?

Those are just some of the questions that come to mind. So, first off, does anyone have any ideas as to answers?

 

[Laura]

The answer to the above could clear some things up. For example, according to the FOTCM SOP, psychopathy didn't exist before approximately 12,500 years ago, yet the C's said the first mutation was 50,000 years ago, and that the type "driven to destroy" was created by mating Neanderthal and Aryan types (presumably 80,000 years ago). So,

Why do you say that this occurred "presumably 80KYA?" Where does the 80K come from?

 

[shijing]

The answer to the above could clear some things up. For example, according to the FOTCM SOP, psychopathy didn't exist before approximately 12,500 years ago, yet the C's said the first mutation was 50,000 years ago, and that the type "driven to destroy" was created by mating Neanderthal and Aryan types (presumably 80,000 years ago). So,

Why do you say that this occurred "presumably 80KYA?" Where does the 80K come from?

I think AI is using the date that the Kantekkians (Aryans) were supposed to have been migrated to Earth during the destruction of Kantek appr. 80KYA, since before this date the mating with Neanderthals would have been technically impossible. It could also have occurred less than 80KYA (anytime after they had arrived here on Earth) as well.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

The answer to the above could clear some things up. For example, according to the FOTCM SOP, psychopathy didn't exist before approximately 12,500 years ago, yet the C's said the first mutation was 50,000 years ago, and that the type "driven to destroy" was created by mating Neanderthal and Aryan types (presumably 80,000 years ago). So,

Why do you say that this occurred "presumably 80KYA?" Where does the 80K come from?

The way I understand it, the C's say the "Aryans" or Kantekkians got here 80KYA, and coexisted with the Neanderthals for a couple hundred years. So if they mated naturally, it would have to be at that time.

Of course, I suppose the could have been artificially mated at any time, but because of all the references I've seen for Neanderthal/Homo sapiens mating I just assumed it probably occurred at that time. (Keeping in mind that official chronology says Neanderthals were around until 35 KYA and that they coexisted with humans for thousands of years.)

 

[Laura]

The answer to the above could clear some things up. For example, according to the FOTCM SOP, psychopathy didn't exist before approximately 12,500 years ago, yet the C's said the first mutation was 50,000 years ago, and that the type "driven to destroy" was created by mating Neanderthal and Aryan types (presumably 80,000 years ago). So,

Why do you say that this occurred "presumably 80KYA?" Where does the 80K come from?

The way I understand it, the C's say the "Aryans" or Kantekkians got here 80KYA, and coexisted with the Neanderthals for a couple hundred years. So if they mated naturally, it would have to be at that time.

Yes, that's what the Cs say. But that was in direct reference to Cro-magnon man. Do we know that cro-magnon was the same as Kantekkian man? When asked if they were the same, Cs said "close". We don't necessarily know the parameters that got Kantekkian man from that to cro-magnon.

Of course, I suppose the could have been artificially mated at any time, but because of all the references I've seen for Neanderthal/Homo sapiens mating I just assumed it probably occurred at that time. (Keeping in mind that official chronology says Neanderthals were around until 35 KYA and that they coexisted with humans for thousands of years.)

Well, let's look at it carefully. I'm going to pull out excerpts that may help us sort some of this out in advance:

Q: (L) Now, you said that the Nephilim were seeded on a
planet called D'Ankhiar as were human beings. When you
said we were seeded there, what did you mean.
A: Was proper environment for molecularization.
Q: (L) Are you saying that the physical bodies on planet
earth, the various types of mankind such as Neanderthal,
Cro-Magnon, Australopithicus etc., were generated on that
other planet and then brought here?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, I had a question I wanted to get in: you said
that Neanderthal man was taken off the earth, and Cro-
Magnon man suddenly appeared. Is this Cro-Magnon man
really Kantekkian man?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Well, they supposedly existed side by side on the
Earth for some time. Did they intermix or intermarry?
A: Marriage?!
Q: (L) Well, you know what I mean! Genetic intemixing.
A: Can you picture a Neanderthal marriage?
Q: (L) Yeah! The old club and drag 'em off by the hair
ceremony! (T) It was a ritual... handed down father to
son along with the club...

Q: (L) I didn't think so. Just the cycle of things. A lot of people are writing to me about dreams lately. They seem to be having a lot of dreams about beings in the sky, entering our reality. All kinds of strange things.
A: Beings come and go at will always, it is the awareness that is expanding.
Q: (L) Another trend of the dreams is being pursued, attacked, split up from their families, being put in concentration camps - just all kinds of things.
A: All are possible futures, just wait and see. There is an alien race that has plans to replace your physical vehicles with a new "model."
Q: (L) What are they going to do with the old models?
A: "Retire them."
Q: (T) Which race is this?
A: Orion STS.
Q: (L) Is this essentially what happened with Neanderthal?
A: Yup!
Q: (L) Well, for a period of time it seems that they continued to exist on the planet alongside the new model, cro-magnon or whatever.
A: Some did.
Q: (L) For how long did Neanderthal exist side by side with the "new model?"
A: 233 years.
Q: (L) I thought that Neanderthal was here for a long, long, long time; and if modern man arrived on the planet, as you say, 70 to 80 thousand years ago, wasn't Neanderthal already here then?
A: Time references have been miscalculated.
Q: (L) Who miscalculated the time references?
A: Science.
Q: (L) What is the oldest Neanderthal that's been found? Anybody know? No, well then when did Neanderthal appear on the planet?
A: 5.3 million years ago.
Q: (L) You are saying that when science says that modern man appeared 35 to 40 thousand years ago, and Neanderthal disappeared at the same time, the real time frame was 70 to 80 thousand years ago? In other words, a factor of 2 error.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And, of course, we can't depend on any of the dating methods because of metamorphosis.
A: And genetic manipulation.
Q: (L) So, in effect, we ARE the new Neanderthals on the eve of extinction. You have said that those who transition into 4th density in the body will go through some kind of rejuvenation process or body regeneration or something. Does that mean that these present "Neanderthal" type bodies that we presently occupy will morph into something more in line with the new model? Is it genetically encoded into some of them to do so?
A: Something like that.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.1
Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago? Difficult for us to use your measuring system.
Q: (L) Were they similar in form and structure to what they are now?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why is it that our scientists have not been able to uncover evidence of such ancient existence?
A: They have. Do not want to acknowledge it.
Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet.
Q: (L) When was that planet destroyed?
A: 80 thousand years ago.

Q: (L) What are the differences between the Celts and the
Aryans?
A: Geographic and cultural.
Q: (L) Are there any differences inherent from the former
planetary home?
A: No. Post arrival difference development.
Q: (L) Were they the same prior to arrival?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?
A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.
Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?
A: Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.
Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?
A: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area
now known as Middle East.
Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?
A: Himself; was power hungry.
Q: (L) What acts did he do?
A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks
of Egyptians, Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.

Q: (L) Are the Aryan/Celts who came to this planet from the
other one that was destroyed, were they, when they came,
in any way superior to the humans already here?
A: Somewhat.
Q: (L) What was the nature of this superiority?
A: Durability.
Q: (L) Physical or mental?
A: Physical.
Q: (L) Well, blond haired, blue-eyed people seem to be
somewhat more delicate or thin-skinned compared to, say,
the blacks.
A: In this environment on surface.
Q: (L) Which race on earth is the oldest?
A: All are same.
Q: (L) Even the Aryan/Celts from the other planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when Kantek, Martek,
and Earth were all three occupied by sentient races which
communicated with one another?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when all three
planets were occupied simultaneously?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why are there different races?
A: Many reasons. Experimental creations. Partly.
Q: (L) Where did the Orientals come from?
A: Same as all others. Result of experimentation.
Q: (L) Did they originate on this planet? Are they native to
this planet?
A: Both. Orientals reserved for souls most advanced; Aryans
most aggressive; Negroes most naturally attuned to earth
vibrational frequency. So are "native Americans".
Q: (L) Can you determine my dominant genetic type?
A: Caucasian.
Q: (L) Is Caucasian different from Aryan or Celtic?
A: Aryan subgroup Caucasian.
Q: (L) In terms of being Caucasian, do I have any negro blood
in me?
A: Faint trace.
Q: (L) Who were the blue skinned people written about in the
Vedas?
A: Aryans.
Q: (L) Were the Aryans originally blue skinned?
A: No.
Q: (L) Why did the Vedas talk about blue-skinned people and
why are there blue skinned people in remote areas of the
Appalachians?
A: Are whites real "white"?
Q: (L) Were there ever any really blue people?
A: No. They were perceived as blue due to thinness of skin
and contrast with native population.

Q: When did the Aryans invade India?
A: 8243 years ago.
Q: Who was there before that?
A: Asian tribes and number 3 prototype.
Q: What is a number 3 prototype?
A: Known as Neanderthal man.
Q: And what are we?
A: Number 4 types c and d. Translation into English
comprehension.
Q: Were the Aryan/Celts the original giants?
A: No.
Q: What white men were seen in South America and talked to
the tribes there and promised to return one day and were
worshipped as Gods.
A: Egyptians and Atlantean descendants.
Q: What did the Atlanteans do to bring this karma on us such
that the grays and Lizzies...
A: Worshipped and served self to extreme.

Q: (L) Who were the Druids?
A: Early Aryan group.
Q: (L) How did they move the stones and set them up?
A: Sound wave focusing; try it yourself; coral castle.
Q: (L) Who taught the Druids to use the sound waves?
A: They knew; handed down.

Q: (L) Who carved friezes in French caves as well as the cave
paintings?
A: People. Aryans. In caves because struggling to survive
conflicts between many forces including Lizard being
domination.
Q: (L) Why did the Egyptians draw sideways?
A: Atlantean method handed down. Simply artistic
stylization.

Q: (L) When the Aryans were brought here, were they brought
to Atlantis?
A: No. The Aryans were different from the Atlanteans.
Q: (L) Is there any language in existence today that is
descended from the Aryan language? Or, that has remained
more similar in development from Indo-European?
A: Yes. All Germanic.
Q: (L) Is Celtic considered to be one of these?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was the origin of the Minoan civilization?
A: Atlantean descendants.

Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic
aliens?
A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.
Q: (L) Okay, if it started with the Nordic types, and that is
where the other humanoid combinations came from, what
genetic combinations were used for human beings? Black
people, for instance, since they are so unlike "Nordics?"
A: The Nordic genes were mixed with the gene pool already
available on Earth, known as Neanderthal.
Q: (L) What was the genetic combination used to obtain the
Oriental races?
A: Orientals come from a region known in your legends as
"Lemuria," and are a previous hybridization from 7 genetic
code structures from within Orion Union, designed to best
fit the earth climate and cosmic ray environment then
existent on earth.
Q: (L) Okay, what about the Semitic and Mediterranean
peoples?
A: Each time a new flock was "planted," it was engineered to
be best suited to the environment where it was planted.
Aryans are the only exception, as they had to be moved to
earth in an emergency.
Q: (L) If races are engineered on earth to be "best suited,"
what factors are being drawn from or considered regarding
the Semitic race?
A: They are not engineered on earth, but in Orion lab as all
others. They were "Planted" in the Middle East.
Q: (L) What genetic type were the Atlanteans?
A: They were the same as the "Native Americans."

...

A: All humanoid types originated in Orion region, there are
and have been and will continue to be literally millions
of colonies.

...

Q: (L) I want to get back on my question that you have not
answered... I want to know who, exactly, and why, exactly,
genetically engineered the Semitic people, and why there
is such an adversarial attitude between them and the Celts
and Aryans.
A: It is not just between the Jews and Celts, if you will
take notice. Besides, it is the individual aural profile
that counts and not groupings or classifications. But, to
answer your question: there are many reasons both from on
and off the planet.
Q: (L) Why was Hitler so determined, beyond all reason, even
to his own self-destruction, to annihilate the Jews?
A: Many reasons and very complex. But, remember, while still
a child, Hitler made a conscious choice to align himself
with the "forces of darkness," in order to fulfill his
desires for conquest and to unite the Germanic peoples.
Henceforth, he was totally controlled, mind, body, and
soul, by STS forces.
Q: (L) So, what were the purposes of the STS forces that were
controlling Hitler causing him to desire to annihilate an
entire group of people?
A: To create an adequate "breeding ground" for the
reintroduction of the Nephalim, for the purpose of total
control of the 3rd density earth prior to elevation to 4th
density, where such conquest is more difficult and less
certain!
Q: (L) Do you mean "breeding ground" in the sense of genetic
breeding?
A: Yes. Third density.
Q: (L) Did they accomplish this goal?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the creation of the Germanic "Master Race" was
what they were going after, to create this "breeding
ground?"
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant?
Couldn't a Germanic master race be created without
destroying another group?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny
profile.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th
density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim
domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded to
carry out mission after conversion, though on individual
basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being
driven to destroy them, because they were being controlled
from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly
with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to
create the "master race."
Q: (L) And they were going to use this as their basis to
introduce a new blend of the Nephilim... (RC) And the New
World Order... their version of it. (L) Well, what is the
plan now?
A: We cannot tell you this yet, as you would seek to reveal
it prematurely, leading to your destruction!!!!
Q: (F) Yes, Laura, I keep telling you that your curiosity is
going to bring strange men to the door who are going to
say: "Come with us, please!" (L) Well, I can't help it!
Meanwhile, back to the Celts: obviously if the Lizard
Beings thought that the Aryans/Celts were a good breeding
ground for this "Nephilim Master Race," then it must be
because there is something genetically inherent in them
that makes them desirable in this sense. Is this correct?
A: No, not in the sense you are thinking. We suggest that
you rephrase this question after careful reflection on the
implications.

Q: (L) I have thought about my question from the last session
and I want to ask it this way: You have said that Hitler
received instructions from higher density beings about
creating a 'Master Race.' Why were the Aryan genetic
types seen to be more desirable for creation of this
Germanic 'master race?'
A: Both, similarity and ancestral link most unblemished from
Orion 3rd and 4th density stock.
Q: (L) So they were essentially trying to breed a group of
people like themselves?
A: Yes.
Q:
A: Not point. How would you suggest creation?
Q: (L) Okay. They were preparing this breeding ground, so to
speak. Obviously this was for the introduction of some
other genetic strain. What was this?
A: Nephalim.
Q: (L) Well, if the Nephilim are coming in ships, 36 million
of them, why bother to create half-breeds here?
A: Yes, but having an "advance party" makes 3rd density
conquest much easier.
Q: (L) So, this Master Race was supposed to get everything
ready...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, what is it about the Semitic genes that was
considered to be so undesirable in the creation of this
'Master Race?'
A: Would blemish genetic characteristics inclined to
ruthlessness and domination.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that there is something, some
genetic tendency or set of genes in the Semitic type that
would counteract this?
A: Close.
Q: (L) But isn't the nature of a person determined by their
soul and not the physical body?
A: Partially, remember, aural profile and karmic reference
merges with physical structure.
Q: (L) So you are saying that particular genetic conditions
are a physical reflection of a spiritual orientation?
That the soul must match itself to the genetics, even if
only in potential?
A: Yes, precisely.
Q: (L) So a person's potential for spiritual advancement or
unfoldment is, to a great extent, dependent upon their
genes?
A: Natural process marries with systematic construct when
present.
Q: (L) Well, if that is the case, and the aliens are
abducting people and altering their genes, can they not
alter the genes so that higher level souls simply cannot
come in?
A: Not incarnative process, natural biological processes.
Incarnative involves strictly ethereal at 5th density and
lower, and thus is enveloped in triple cycle "veil" of
transfer which is impregnable ay any means. However, any
and all 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th processes can be
manipulated at will and to any degree if technology is
sufficient.

Q: (J) What or who - is the "Nation of the Third Eye?"
A: Terran civilization under the surface.
Q: (L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said
the Aryans were brought from Kantek, and that they were
"sturdier," or something like that, and I remarked that it
seemed that they would be less sturdy - and the C's
answered "on the surface." Now, that has always bothered
me. I don't think they meant "surface appearances." Have
the Aryans been glorified as the "master race" because
they are more suited to living underground?
A: Close. All types there are "Aryan."
Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that
has been 'managed' by Orions, or did it develop on its
own?
A: One at a time.
Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and
some that are 3rd?
A: The human types there are "bi-density."
Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd
density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to
"regenerate."
Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as
long as they want in any density?
A: In 4th and 3rd.
Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease
on either density?
A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is
easier, naturally.

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Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time
table and present the Aryans as Martians?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as
Martians?
A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the
idea of EBEs.
Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks
bearing gifts.
A: Some of the "good guys" are identical in appearance.
Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that
they can slide in quietly and take over?
A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the
"government" to introduce everyone to the new reality of
the existence of intelligent life all over the place, not
just here.

Q: Am I on the right track with the "bloodline" research?
A: Sure.
Q: Am I going to discover some more startling things with
this "bloodline" research?
A: Discovery is the fruit of inquiry.
Q: Am I correct in my assessment that the origin of the Grail
stories was the story of the Head of Bran?
A: But what was the "origin" of Brahna?
Q: Well, from the way I am interpreting what I have found, I
have two possibilities: One is the Celts from Kantek, and
two: a Nephilim hybrid.
A: Could be one and the same.
Q: Well, from what you have said in prior sessions, these
bloodlines can be of positive or negative orientation, a
duality, and that they lead to super-secret power sources.
Is that correct?
A: Well, the duality is existent concommitantly through all
bloodlines, but in the so-called celts, it is more
pronounced, therefore, there are more vivid power cells
and centers.
Q: Are these cells and centers that you talk about, are they
something that is located in the body or a part of the
spirit-body connection...
A: The extant body.
Q: What do you mean by "extant" body?
A: Existent/external.
Q: Okay, I will keep digging. How can I find if there is
going to be a connection between the Aryan/Jewish
bloodline of Jesus and the Merovingian/Plantagenet
bloodline? Does it exist?
A: Only to the extent of the shared origins of the
essenes and the celts.

Q: The next thing is the dietary restrictions. Many cultures
eat rabbits and pigs, in specific, those of Aryan
extraction. The rabbit was sacred to Athena, and the
Celts at a LOT of pork. Yet, here these items are
restricted from the diet of the Jews. Is there any
relation between the diet as outlined here, and the Aryan
genetic tendencies to conquest and domination?
A: Trichinosis used to be nonexistent in Aryan types... But,
mixing of genetic factors eliminated this.
Q: So, the Jews were susceptible to trichonosis, and the
Aryans were not?
A: Originally.
Q: So, it was necessary for the Jews not to eat the pork, but
not for the Aryans, and the mixing caused susceptibility.
In a general sense, are strong Aryan genetics indicative
of the necessity for the consumption of meat?
A: In a sense, but pescadorial features substitute semi-
adequately.
Q: Pescadorial. Semi-adequately. What needed to be added so
that the substitution would be not just semi-adequate, but
totally adequate?
A: Iron/protein levels.
Q: So, it is the iron that the Celts need? Well, that brings
me to the next question: In all the Celtic folklore when
they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other
density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,'
these fairy/slash aliens insist that no iron come near
them in any way. It was also said that bringing iron into
contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling' would
prove whether or not they were because if they were, they
would disappear instantly. Also, the instructions for the
building of the Temple of Solomon included restrictions on
the use of iron in either the preparation of the materials
or the putting together of the building itself, even down
to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part.
What is the significance of this restriction on the use of
iron by these other density beings, whoever they are?
A: Bloodline trails.
Q: Are you saying that... I don't understand... not even well
enough to frame another question...
A: You will, my dear, oh will you!
Q: If it was necessary for the Aryans to have iron... okay,
maybe the iron is something that interacts...
A: What about iron as an element?
Q: Okay, let's see: Iron - derived from early Celt 'iserno,'
via Illyrian 'eisarno' from the IndoEuropean base 'eis,'
which means to 'move vigorously; strong, holy.' It is a
white, malleable, ductile, metallic chemical element that
can be readily magnetized, rusts rapidly in moist or salty
air, and is vital to plant and animal life; it is the
most common and important of all metals, and its alloys,
as steel, are extensively used. Symbol: Fe; atomic
weight:55.847; atomic number: 26; specific gravity: 7.86;
melting point: 1535 degrees Centigrade; boiling point
3,000 degrees C. The electron shells are thus: 2,14,8,2.
Iron is an element of blood, hemoglobin, and is easily
magnetized... there is some new work about iron and
magnetite in the brains of people who are psychic or have
'abduction' experiences... is it the magnetism?
A: Yes....
Q: Is it something that holds one more firmly in 3rd density,
and the elimination of it enables one to switch
densities... or...
A: Tis magnetite that acts as a conduit, and perhaps, just
perhaps, allows for transference back and forth at will?!?
And what about the legend about the alchemists? Is not
the key term there really transformation?!? And has not
the "smoke screen" really been delivered so effectively by
all the concentration upon the substance?!? And does not
this remind one indeed of all the misguided concentration
upon substance rather than meaning that one finds so
regularly on 3rd density??
...
Q: In reading the Celtic legends, I discovered that
Cassiopaea was equated with Danu, or Don, as in Tuatha de
Danaan, or the court of the goddess Danu. So, in other
words, the supreme goddess of the Aryans was Cassiopaea.
And, Cassiopaea is found in the zodiacal area of Aries,
the 'lamb,' where Cephus the 'rock' and 'king' is also
found, as well as Perseus, 'he who breaks' and
serpentarius. The image is of Perseus overcoming the
serpent, and the ancient Celtic engravings of the horned
god show him gripping two serpents by the throat. I would
like to understand the symbology here...
A: You are on the right track.
Q: What is the symbology of the 'breaking of rocks,' as in
the alchemical texts, as well as related to Perseus as 'he
who breaks?'
A: Occurs at a time when rocks break, as in the
electromagnetic impulses that emanate from earthbound
rocks when sheared by tectonic forces, and much more
importantly, the possible utilization of said forces
whether naturally or otherwise induced.

Q: Something you said about the dietary restrictions... about
tracking bloodlines. Do dietary restrictions make it
easier to track the Jews because of this? Can 4th density
track their genetics because of their dietary
restrictions?
A: Foolishness!! 4th density beings have no difficulty
identifying anyone on 3rd density. Dietary restrictions
you speak of are relating to making the body chemistry
less attractive for consumption.
Q: You mean consumption as in being eaten?
A: Yes.
Q: So, maybe we should all eat like Jews?
A: Maybe.
Q: Do you mean that 4h density STS likes particularly to eat
Aryans?
A: Only the reptilian types.
Q: But, they don't like to eat Jews, is that it?
A: They most prefer children with high body fat content.

Q: (L) Okay, now: I would like to know if there was a real
historic person behind the legend of King Arthur?
A: Close. Sorcerer's Coven. Secret pact of coven is
covenant.
Q: (L) Was this the Nordic Covenant behind the legend of King
Arthur?
A: Not really.
Q: (L) I think that implies that there might be a connection?
A: Maybe there is something more like an offshoot.
Q: (L) The Nordic Covenant is an offshoot of the Arthurian
Covenant or vice versa?
A: King Arthur story based on an offshoot of Nordic Covenant
Root.
Q: (L) Okay, now you say that the Nordic Covenant can be
positive or negative. Would the Arthurian Cycle be of the
Positive Offshoot?
A: Both.
Q: (L) What period of time did this Sorcerer's Coven...
A: During the "Dark Ages.
Q: (L) Can you get me closer to a year, or period of years?
A: We will let you do that.
Q: (L) The chief thing I noticed about this period of the
Dark Ages is that from the time of the 'birth of Christ,'
for about 1300 years, there is an incredible lack of
documentation. Now, there were some manuscripts written
by Monks, such as Gregory of Tours and so forth, but in
general, the only things that have survived from this
period are things put out by Monks under the control of
the church. It is as though the whole world became
illiterate. Is this, in fact, the case? Was it that
nobody was writing anything down during this period?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was any part of this because of the control of the
Catholic Church over writing and education, and that they
opposed everything that did not support their views?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, what we have to work with is what we have to work
with. And, I guess that's as close as we can get. It
isn't a whole heck of a lot. How many people were in this
Covenant?
A: Look for answers, trees will lead you to it.
Q: (L) What literary source could I go to to find the least
distorted or corrupted information?
A: Trees.
Q: (L) How long has this Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: Look for it.
Q: (L) You said that you were in regular contact with the
Kantekkians on Kantek before they were airlifted to Earth
80 thousand years ago or thereabouts. Now, was the
destruction of this planet a result of Orion Manipulations
of the people such as is taking place on our planet at the
present time?
A: Maybe somewhat, but not all.
Q: (L) I have tried to imagine a plane full of people of pure
Aryan types, or purified Celtics, and it is difficult to
imagine what such a culture would be like. Is there
anything that we can look at, literary or otherwise, that
would give me a concept of what this culture or society
could have been like?
A: Search Japan and the Bahamas.
Q: (L) What?! What do Japan and the Bahamas have in common?
A: See for yourself. Remember, learning is fun and
energizes. Spoonfeeding sessions do little for you.
Q: (L) When you were in regular contact with the Kantekkians,
what was the nature of this contact?
A: Educational.

Q: (A) I want to ask why is it so that when I look at Laura
in the mirror, as I have several times without glasses at
the gym, my vision was a little unsharp, I was seeing a
gold glow, a big gold glow in both of her eyes. Why was
this?
A: You are developing some DNA change related 4th density
"bleedthrough."
Q: (A) But what was this glow in her eyes?
A: Part of 4th density reality, related to aural frequency.
Q: (L) Now, on to the questions I have prepared: In a
previous session you said that the pyramid was built
10,643 years ago. That would be 8,649 BC. Is that a
correct figure, or was there any corruption?
A: Yes. Correct.
Q: Then you talked about the pyramid as a focuser of energy
to do 'all things' or many things. Later we asked about
Stonehenge and you said that StoneHenge was built 6,000 BC
by Druids, an early Aryan group, as an energy director to
do 'all things.' This seems to be that both structures
had similar design functions. Is that correct?
A: No. Stonehenge is a vector of energy derived from Solar
and Cosmic rays. Pyramids focus electromagnetic energy
from the atmosphere ambiently. Stonehenge was built 8,000
BC, by the way.
Q: If it was built in 8,000 BC, and the Pyramids were built
8,649 BC, which is 10,643 years ago, more or less, that
means that they were built at almost the same time, or at
least within 600 years of each other. If they were built
at almost the same time, were they built by the same, or
similar groups of people?
A: Atlantean descendants.
Q: Obviously the Great Pyramid is a marvel of engineering -
and Stonehenge is as well - yet the two structures are so
dissimilar. The Pyramid presents such a finished and
sharp and elegant appearance, and Stonehenge might give
a person - of course that is based on how it appears today
- a more primitive presentation.
A: Was not originally.
Q: Did they work in conjunction with one another and did the
two groups that built them in communication with one
another?
A: No and yes.
Q: Was it two different groups? One with the Stonehenge
business and one with the Pyramid business?
A: Offshoots of same group.
A: Were they antagonistic toward one another or were they
friendly toward one another?
A: No, yes.
...
Q: One of the things I noticed in this book was that they
said that there was a colony from the city of Harran in
what is nowadays Turkey, and that this colony formerly
resided on the Giza plateau. Is there any connection
between this colony they mention and the fact that you
said that the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' were
composed in Turkey by an 'Aryan' source?
A: Yes.
Q: What relationship is there?
A: One and the same.

Q: At the making of the Covenant at Mt. Sinai, there was a bunch of sacrificed animals, and Moses took the blood , dividing it in half, he cast one half on the altar. Taking the book of the covenant, he read it to the people, and they said 'we will observe all that Yahweh has decreed. We will obey.' And then Moses took the blood and cast it on the people saying 'this is the blood of the covenant that Yahweh has made with you containing all these rules.' What is this blood of the covenant?
A: Has to do with bloodline.
Q: So this symbolized the bloodline of the Jews?
A: No.
Q: What bloodline are we talking about here?
A: Aramaic/Aryan.
Q: Are you saying that the Jews are Aramaic/Aryan?
A: No. Jews are not bloodline categorizable, per se.
Q: When the person who was later represented as Jesus lived, was that, as Paul described it, a New Covenant of Blood?
A: No.
Q: Was any of this related to the Nordic Covenant?
A: In a parallel sense.

That's all the excerpts through 1998 referencing possible clues. I'll start with 2000 in the next post.

 

[shijing]

Yes, that's what the Cs say. But that was in direct reference to Cro-magnon man. Do we know that cro-magnon was the same as Kantekkian man? When asked if they were the same, Cs said "close". We don't necessarily know the parameters that got Kantekkian man from that to cro-magnon.

While waiting for the next post, I just want to say that it would bring me no end of pleasure to see 'Kantekkian man' in a textbook someday :)

 

[abstract]

While waiting for the next post, I just want to say that it would bring me no end of pleasure to see 'Kantekkian man' in a textbook someday

Bro, there are sooooo many things that i wish were in the textbooks, i agree!

thanks for posting all of that, laura. some food for thought.

 

[Laura]

To continue:

Q: I kind of figured you were going to say that! Now, I have this book entitled "Arktos."
He says something here that echoes a remark you once made. He says: "It is a very
remarkable thing that enlightenment seems to have come from the North against the
common prejudice that the Earth was enlightened as it was populated from South to
North. The Scythians are one of the most ancient nations; the Chinese descend from
them. The Atlanteans themselves, more ancient than the Egyptians, descend from them."
You said that the civilizing influence came from the North to the South. Of course, all
the standard texts claim that civilization came from South to North, starting in
Mesopotamia. Now, getting...
A: Okay, just a minute here. Thinking Mesopotamia is the beginning is like thinking
that the beginning starts at the 12th chapter.
Q: I know that! The problem is: finding artifacts. I've been searching and digging, and I
find a little bit here and there, but my God! Either nothing survived...
A: Artifacts have a limited shelf life!
Q: Exactly! The problem is that they've got specimens of humanoid types from 100 to
200 thousand years ago, and even further, but no specimens of modern man that are that
old. Why is this so? Are they just looking in the wrong places?
A: Specimens survive by sheer luck.
Q: So, they are lucky that they have any specimens at all. Who knows, when they find a
very ancient specimen of a modern type human, they won't believe it - it will be called an
"anomaly!" There ARE artifacts that are EXTREMELY ancient, which give evidence of
the presence of modern type man, and they just simply argue themselves to death over
them.
A: Yes.
Q: They ignore them. But, during the time Neanderthal man was on the Earth, did he
live alongside Modern man?
A: Yes. Except modern type man was different then.
Q: In what ways?
A: DNA and psycho/electrical frequencies.
Q: Does this mean that their physical appearance was different from what we consider to
be modern man?
A: Radiance.
Q: What do you mean "radiance?"
A: You find out!
Q: Oh, that's interesting. Well, there are legends that the Northern people had "light" in
their veins. Very ancient belief. Is this what you are referring to?
A: Maybe.
Q: Was this light related to the hemoglobin level, the iron level in the blood?
A: Maybe.
Q: Did they have a much higher iron level in their blood?
A: Possibly....
Q: Okay, part of the ancient legend of Arktos was that, in very ancient times the Earth
was different because it had a vertical axial orientation. This contributed to the golden
age or the Edenic condition. Is this, in fact, one of the conditions that existed in the
Golden Age?
A; Well, yes, but still some puzzle pieces needed.
Q: I noticed also that there are several ball-park type figures given for the precessional
cycles. Apparently there is not a whole lot of agreement as to how long this cycle is,
exactly. I notice that, if you divide 309,882 years by 12, you come out right in the ball
park of 12 precessional cycles. Is this the reason that the zodiac was set up with twelve
signs or houses?
A: Related, yes.
Q: Now, since all the recent conjecture about the precessional cycle has really gone all
over the place, it is my thought that the real reason for the ancient clues about this cycle
are to inform us that the length of 12 of these cycles is a GRAND Cycle, and that THIS is
the big clue.
A: Needs some study by you.
Q: One of the interesting things about this Northern civilizational factor is that one of the
hallmarks of the Aryan attitude is the Male dominated religion. When did the masculine
religion "take over?" Was this always the tendency or leaning of the Aryan group?
A: Involves more than religion. Religion is the facilitator.
Q: Facilitator of what?
A: Customary psycho/social habitue.
Q: Customary to whom?
A: Those whom you refer to as Aryans.
Q: Where did they acquire the "habit" of a masculine oriented religion? Everybody else
was worshipping the goddess in one form or another. But this male dominated theology
was the distinguishing characteristic of the Northern peoples. Where did they come up
with this.
A: Originated on home planet.
Q: Kantek?
A: For all intents and purposes.
Q: Was it this male dominated religion that contributed to the destruction of Kantek?
A: No.
Q: Okay, when they were on their home planet, why did they develop a masculine
religion as opposed to a feminine one, considering the fact that women are the source of
life, in certain terms?
A: In your density, masculinism/feminish is essentially a roll of "the dice." Remember,
at higher levels gender is nonexistent.
Q: Well, the problem I am having here is this: the masculine religion is monotheistic,
essentially.
A: In your references.
Q: Was the older masculine religion polytheistic?
A: Going off the track.
Q: The Aryans always thought they were better than everybody else...
A: They were more advanced than the company they found themselves amongst.
Q: But then, as far as I can tell, the Hebrew monotheism is also derived from the Aryan,
monotheistic, male dominated religion. It then "fathered" Christianity, and that has been
the whole patriarchal, kill-em-all and let God sort-em-out war mongering thing under
which we have lived for over 2000 years. This is the Western, European mind... it came
from the Aryans, from the North; it was the so-called "civilizing" influence in nearly
every respect that you can track. The cohesiveness and dominance of this type of
thinking was able to civilize, but then civilization involves dominance, killing, war,
territory, the Hitler scene, the whole nine yards. All of this is antithetical to all that you
promote as far as being desirable. Yet, you have said that you were in contact with the
Northern Peoples for millennia. Yes, Cassiopeia is a Northern Constellation, and
probably figured in the early myths of these peoples in ways we cannot know, but the
whole thing is that they represent all that is STS.
A: But so do you, so then why did we contact you?
Q: Well. I don't buy into that whole monotheistic, dominator, war-mongering, make
everybody conform to one way of thinking head trip!
A: So, you think all individuals conformed then, or is it the soul that counts in the final
analysis?
Q: Okay, obviously all individuals are different, and some did not conform then, either.
A: And neither do you.
Q: Point taken. I am just having a hard time with this. I wish you would just tell me!
Who interacted with these Aryans to give them this male-dominated, monotheistic idea
that they then sought to impose on every other human being on the planet - and are
STILL trying!
A: Interactions were transdensity.

Q: All right, first question is, what is the origin of the Levites?
A: Hittites Moon Worshippers.
Q: Well, before the Hittites became Hittites, what were they?
A: Indo-europeans.
Q: What was the source of the Indo-europeans?
A: Aryan sub-race.
Q: Is there any other group the Aryans mixed with to produce the Indo-Europeans?
A: Fourth Density genetic tweak.
Q: Was Abraham a Levite?
A: Yes.
Q: Was Sarah Nefertiti?
A: Yes.
Q What was the reason for the strange skull shape of Nefertiti and her family?
A: Genetic tweak.
Q: Was this 4th density genetic tweak done by STS of STO?
A: STS

Q: What group mined the copper in northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, like in Isle Royale?
A: Aryans.
Q: What did they want the copper for?
A: Weapons.
Q: Wouldn't iron make better weapons?
A: Not in 4th density.
Q: I'm getting the feeling that there have been bleed-in, bleed-out situations with 4th density on this planet a lot more often than we suspect.
A: Yes.
Q: Are these situations sometimes manufactured by those who know how?
A: Close.
Q: Do they just happen to know where those window points are?
A: Yes.
Q: Is it significant that Rock Lake is on the same longitude line as Tikal?
A: Yes.
Q: Does it have to do with the windows we just talked about?
A: Close.
Q: What is the significance of the red patchy birthmark on all of our skulls?
A: 4th density connection point.

....

Q: Was the Yellow Emperor of China... he had some talking, walking tripods. Were these things similar to the Ark of the Covenant?
A: No.
Q: What were his tripods?
A: Ground communicators.
Q: What did they communicate with? Each other, or something in the sky?
A: Both.
Q: What was in the sky that they communicated with?
A: Mothership.
Q: What was on the Mothership?
A: Lizards.
Q: Charming. (T) You said that many groups built Rock Lake. Who were some of the many groups?
A: Aryans.
Q: In conjunction with who?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Is that why the Indians have these glyphs about snakes and serpents and stuff?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, moving on to the next question: Are Semites a mixture of Aryan genetics and Negro genetics as I*** and I have theorized?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Once before you talked about the "mission destiny profile prior encoding" of the Semitic genetic code structure. Of course, you talked about this being done 130,000 years ago, so that's a long time. But, was that original code structure put into the genetic code of the Black peoples...
A: Yes.
Q: ... to then be spread via their mixture with Aryans - as Semites - into other races?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What is the other part?
A: Genetic tweaking of Semites.
Q: (L) Is there something in the sub-Saharan African genes that makes one tend more toward STO?
A: Not really.

Q: (A) So we are making the knocking noises. I wasn't scared when there was this knocking. (L) I wasn't either. There was no sensation of the knocking being produced by an outside source - a predator, so to say. When something comes from the outside, you always get a subliminal feeling of fear like there is an intruder. And there was none of that. (A) Right. (L) If I'd had that, I probably wouldn't have jumped up out of the bed to go see what it was! Okay, onto our research. One of the questions we would like to clear up is the issue of the Holy Grail and the Ark. Is the Ark of the covenant - the ark thing given to the early pre-Mosaic Jews that you have described previously - the same as the Holy Grail?
A: No.
Q: (L) So there are two completely different technologies?
A: If you wish to term it such.
Q: (L) Why did they answer the question that way? What is the distinguishing thing between them? (A) Maybe 'as such' refers to the fact that you termed it 'technology.' Maybe this is not quite the correct term. Technology can be part of it, but maybe not the most important part. (H) Is one an STS tool and the other an STO tool?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (H) Thanks guys! That's real clear!
A: This is an issue that will clarify itself soon enough.
Q: (L) Is my idea correct that we can identify the presence of these more-or-less technologies by the architecture or art or megalithic structures of the different groups on the planet?
A: To some extent, yes. But do not let that be the only clue. You might consider "lifestyle" as well as the presence and uses of metals; particularly gold vs. iron.
Q: (L) So, we have a whole different set of clues to look at here. Alrighty then! Was what we are calling the Ark of the Covenant at Baalbek?
A: No. But there were certainly those who had advanced knowledge.
Q: (L) I hate it when they do that: blow my theory to bits. Was there a "grail faction" and an "ark faction?"
A: Pretty much.
Q: (L) Was Baalbek built by the Ark Faction or the Grail Faction?
A: It was Ark Faction.
Q: (H) Well, we got that part right. (L) Once before we discussed Nefertiti and Sarah being one and the same person. We have now been discussing the idea, based on some significant clues in ancient documents, that this individual was also Helen of Troy. Is this, in fact, a useful idea to follow? Is it a correct assessment of the clues?
A: Indeed!
Q: (L) That would mean that, according to the story, that Paris/Alexander would be the same individual as Abraham and that Herodotus' story of Paris and Helen sojourning in Egypt was true?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) We have the brother issue to deal with. We have Abraham and his nephew, Lot. Then we have Moses and Aaron, Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael. Were all of these sets of brothers just different aspects or views on the same stories, a set of singular individuals, whether brothers or not?
A: Pretty much though with added elements from other stories blended in.
Q: (L) Was it a brother/brother relationship as in actual brothers?
A: No. The "brother" relationship was created to legitimize a "false" line of transmission.
Q: (L) So there wasn't a brother, or Aaronic relationshp present, assuming any part of that story was true. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) One aspect of the variation on the story was that Jacob gave his brother, Esau, the 'blessing' and some 'gift.' Does this reflect an accurate part of the story that Moses, in his form as Jacob, passed something on to someone elses - something that was important?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it Moses/Abraham who was doing this?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who did he pass it on to?
A: It was finally understood by "Moses" that the danger of the object was greater than the ability of descendants to resist corruption. He handed it over to those who had created it.
Q: (H) Was it STS or STO forces that created it?
A: STS.
Q: (H) So, the Ark was an object created by STS. Did this amount to some sort of realization on Moses' part? Did he start to wake up?
A: Yes. The story of the "contending with the angel" was the significant turning point as well as the moment of return.
Q: (L) What was the blessing he gave to quote Esau, if giving the object to the "angel" was the event of returning the ark? What was the story there?
A: Two separate events.
Q: (L) So, he returned the ark to the so-called angel. And then, he gave something to someone else. Previously, when I asked about this, you said that what he gave to Esau was "trampled leaves of wrath, the blue apples incarnate," and remarked that I should inquire into the "core meaning."
A: And who was "Kore?"
Q: (L) Was this Abraham's daughter?
A: It was the last living member of the Perseid family.
Q: (L) Was it a male or female?
A: Female.
Q: (L) And how did Abraham come to be in possession of this female?
A: Search the text and you will see.
Q: (H) If this person was the last member of the Perseid family, does that mean that Paris was a member of this family?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was this person someone who was part of Abraham's group because he kidnapped her?
A: That is going in the right direction, though not quite that simple.
Q: (H) They are saying that this was a female who was kidnapped? Could it be Helen?
A: No!
Q: (L) Previously we were told that Helen was a genetically tweaked Hittite. Were her parents anybody who would be familiar to us outside of mythology?
A: No.
Q: (L) So her parentage was strictly mythical. Was she a member of any esteemed family or royal family along that line as has been claimed?
A: Here also you will make a discovery.
Q: (L) Going back to this person - the last living member of the Perseid family - who was handed over by Abraham in his Jacob persona to someone else, who was this person handed over to and why?
A: For protection from the fury of "Helen."
Q: (L) So, there is a reflection of that in the story of Hagar the Egyptian. Who was she handed over to?
A: The "Dragon Slayers."
Q: (L) You mentioned before that Helen/Nefertiti/Sarah was locked up by Akhenaten. Why, specifically, was she locked up?
A: He became unable to function and the action was taken by others.
Q: (L) Did Akhenaten go mad as I have surmised?
A: Pretty much.
Q: (L) Did he fall in the Nile and get eaten by a crocodile as the story about one pharaoh suggests?
A: No Crocodile.
Q: So, he just fell in and drowned?
A: More like he was "helped."
Q: (L) Sounds to me like this poor guy was just a patsy all around.
A: Yup.
Q: The story about the plague that is told in Manetho, was this a plague as in leprosy, a disease, or something else?
A: It was multiple elements including leprosy.
Q: (L) What were these different elements?
A: Consider the writings about cometary showers.
Q: (L) Was any of this radiation sickness from being around the ark as we have surmised?
A: Not so much since it was kept contained.
Q: (L) Did Helen/Nefertit/Sarah get some sort of sickness that contributed to the necessity of locking her up?
A: No, in fact it was the fact that she did not get sick that made her the object of suspicion.
Q: (L) So, she didn't get leprosy. That means that Miriam was not part of the Helen/Nefertiti/Sarah element, is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was Helen from Argo?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was someone from Argo?
A: Yes.
Q: [Laughter.] (L) Well, I mean involved in this particular story.
A: Oh, indeed, and that may be an important clue!
Q: (L) In reading the texts, we read about the Libyans and Ethiopians and it seems that anybody who didn't live in the Delta was called either a Libyan or an Ethiopian. Who were these so-called Libyan/Ethiopians, who lived in Egypt and other areas of North Africa, and where did they come from?
A: Various identities at various times.
Q: (L) So, these were names applied to different peoples at different times and we would have to ask specific questions about specific groups at specific times to narrow it down. Who were the so-called "Libyans" of the Exodus of 2676 BC, recorded as a Libyan rebellion by Manetho?
A: Sumerian and Aryan mix.
Q: Did this group end up in Crete?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You said on previous occasions that the pyramids in Egypt - that is, the Great Pyramid at Giza and its companions - were built by Atlantean descendants. We would like to know which precise group of Atlantean descendants built these specific pyramids?
A: Leave this one until you have connected more dots.
Q: (L) Is it going to surprise us?
A: No doubt!
Q: (H) Is the importance of Argos related to the myth of Jason and the Argonauts?
A: Yup.
Q: (H) Does it have something to do with the individuals who flew away on the Ram?
A: Mmmmm .... And did she really drown?
Q: (H) Is it a significant fact that this girl's name was similar to Helen of Troy?
A: Could be a clue. All those stories of escape from confinement and flying and cataclysm...? Who was imprisoned? Why? Good night.
Q: (H) Stories of escape - there's the story of Daedalus and Icarus... We have Colchis, Jason, the argonauts. We have the last living member of the Perseid family... all mixed up with Abraham and Sarah otherwise known as Paris and Helen who was also Nefertiti. (L) And Abraham wanted to save this individual from the fury of Helen. (S) And why was Helen furious? What happened when Helen got furious? (H) A thousand ships got launched... (L) And a lot of people died and have been dying ever since from this whole monotheistic rant. And it looks like Helen/Nefertiti/Sarah is the main source of the whole deal. A Hittite hybrid with a big skull like those heads of the Ica in Peru. And the C's have said that there were hybrids in Peru that were supposed to have been attempts to create a 3rd density body for direct STS incarnation. And it looks like Sarah/Helen/Nefertiti was one of them. No wonder women have been given a bad name. We have our work cut out for us.

Q: What are the origins of the Belicena book?

A: Belicena origins; researches of Aryan types exiled to South America.

Q: (H) In reading through the transcripts in the 9/11 book, I was confused about the genetic tweak that was made 130,000 years ago. Was that a tweak that was done to all the Semites, so it wasn’t only the Jews?
A: Question is what is a Semite?
Q: (H) You make a remark that this thing with Hitler goes off planet. So was this something that was going on on Kantek before it exploded?
A: Yes.
Q: (H) Did the Semites have a significant role in the collapse of Atlantis?
A: Indeed!
Q: (H) So, when we’re looking at a replay, we’re REALLY looking at a replay!
A: Yup.
Q: (Discussion of who are the Semites) (H) So the real Semites are the Aryans?
A:You got it!
Q: (L) So that means that the rank and file of Jews that have carried the tradition, the Arabic types, just took on the tradition and carried it and set it back to these Aryan types. They were just intermediaries. (J) Semites is like Middle Eastern, isn’t it?
A: Is it? Was it?
Q: (H) Then the genetic tweak, was it made in the Aryan Semites or was it made in the Jews that we know as Jews today?
A: Aryan. Reason for destruction of Jews of the “Abrahamic” line.

Q: (L) That leads me to my next question. You've said that psychopaths are defective OPs?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, how do they get to be defective? I'm trying to figure out how to ask this... Are they defective because they're born that way?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Are they defective because of something that happened in their childhood?

A: Sometimes...

Q: (A***) Where they engineered that way somewhere along the line?

A: Some are engineered especially lately. But in general it is genetics due to mutation.

Q: (L) Okay, so if it's due to a mutation, when did the original mutation occur?

A: More than one occasion, but first time was fifty thousand years ago.

Q: (L) Is it true that psychopaths... well, we know they appear in the population at a certain percentage. Do they increase at various times in history so that they grow more numerous and kind of take over the planet and create a lot of destruction, and in creating this destruction, do they destroy themselves or reduce their own numbers significantly, kind of like populations of rabbits and foxes or something like that?

A: Very similar, yes.

Q: (L) Is there anything to my idea that the present strain of psychopathy comes from a crossing between Neanderthal and Aryan types in Europe or in Asia somewhere?

A: One strain, yes. But not all psychopaths.

Q: (L) What particular strain would come from the crossing of the Neanderthal and the Aryan types?

A: The kind with the drive to destroy.

Q: (A***) Aren't all psychopaths basically destructive? (L) I don't think so. I think for example the schizoidal psychopath, they're different. And then there's the paranoid psychopath, and then of course when you're dealing with pure psychopaths, you've got a scale... what do you call it, a spectrum.

Q: Mouravieff says that the "pre-Adamic" humans do not have the higher centers, nor the possibility of developing them in this cycle - which we assume to be the Grand Cycle you have previously described, the length of which is around 300,000 years. Is this an accurate representation of "pre-Adamic" beings?
A: Yes, they are "organic" portals between levels of density.
Q: Based on what Mouravieff has said, it seems to be so that any efforts to try to raise the consciousness of such individuals is doomed to fail.
A: Pretty much. Most of them are very efficient machines. The ones that you have identified as psychopaths are "failures." The best ones cannot be discerned except by long and careful observation.
...
Q: (A) Now, I was reading in the transcripts that sleep is necessary for human beings because it was a period of rest and recharging. You also said that the SOUL rests while the body is sleeping. So, the question is: what source of energy is tapped to recharge both the body and the soul?
A: The question needs to be separated. What happens to a souled individual is different from an organic portal unit.
Q: (L) I guess that means that the life force energy that is embodied in Organic Portals is something like the soul pool that is theorized to exist for flora and fauna. This would, of course, explain the striking and inexplicable similarity of psychopaths, that is so well defined that they only differ from one another in the way that different species of trees are different in the overall class of Tree-ness. So, if they don't have souls, where does the energy come from that recharges Organic Portals?
A: The pool you have described.

Q: (J) Over 11 years ago you said that the Nazi master race idea was for the purposes of creating a breeding ground for the reintroduction of the Nephilim for total control of 3rd density prior to elevation to 4th, and that this failed. At the time Laura asked what their plan was now, and you said that you could not say because she would seek to reveal it leading to her destruction. So my question is, (with mirth) have we evolved to a high enough degree that we can know now?

A: You already figured it out

Q: (everyone looks to Joe as though he figured something out. Joe: well I didn’t really figure anything out, I was just thinking about it and decided that the new plan was to introduce the psychopaths in order to effect the total control of the planet along certain lines)

A: And “culling” the non-psychopaths

Q: ... (Joe) Is not having an emotional center the same as being a psychopath?

A: Not exactly, but close.

Q: (A***) Does [such an individual] feel any emotions?

A: Not what you call true emotions. But you haven't experienced the full range either. Most of what you experience is chemical, though there is a true emotional component. You are still the "princess in the tower" kept captive by the dragons set to keep you captive.

Q: (L) What are the dragons?

A: Fear and distortions of your emotional center programmed into you in childhood. You bit the apple and fell into a trance.

 

[Eboard10]

It's really hard to figure all this out as there is so much information and it's not easy to fit it together, but that's the fun about learning!
Anyway, I have a question on the matter which concerns the "ascent" of the Kantekkians on Earth.

October 23, 1994
Q: (L) Let's go back to the three forces. You said numerous souls
desired physical existence. When the numerous souls did this, how
did physical existence come to be?
A: First was apelike.
Q: (L) And then what happened? Did these apelike being just pop
into the air? What did the souls do with these apelike beings?
A: Souls altered them by transfer.
Q: (L) Transfer of what?
A: Souls into seeded bodies. Orion Union was first into Neanderthal.
Q: (L) The Orion souls came into Neanderthal bodies?
A: No. Put humans there for incubation process.
Q: (L) Were altered ape embryos put back into ape females for
gestation?
A: No. Souls only.
Q: (L) They put the souls into the ape bodies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Did the soul's presence in the ape body cause its genetics
and DNA to change?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They entered into living creatures on this planet to experience
3 d reality and by entering in caused mutation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Then were altered by Orion Union first.

So the souls who desired physicality, by entering into the bodies mutated the DNA causing changes in their physical aspect as well as other. If the DNA is directly related to the Soul then what happened to the Kantekkian race when it was moved to Earth? Were the early descendants of the Aryans subject to any change in their DNA structure with other Terran-bounded souls occupying such bodies, and what about the other way round? Or were the souls at that time "free" to incarnate into both the Earth and Kantek? I'm basically trying to understand what happened at a soul-level with the "merging" of these races.

 

[shijing]

Do we know that cro-magnon was the same as Kantekkian man? When asked if they were the same, Cs said "close". We don't necessarily know the parameters that got Kantekkian man from that to cro-magnon.

I think that part of the answer might lay in the following:

Q: (L) ...If Nostratic is a valid linguistic unit, does it essentially represent the original language of the Kantekkians? Well, I guess we ought to break that down and ask it: Is Nostratic a valid linguistic unit?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay, does it essentially represent the original language of the Kantekkians?

A: Half.

Q: (L) What do you mean by "half"?

A: Half belongs to earth. There was blending at a very early stage.

Q: (L) Okay. So the next question is: The putative Nostratic speakers in East Asia include the Asians that I think were the original shamans which I've discussed in Secret History and elsewhere, Altaic speakers in particular. So if this is the case, and if Nostratic as a linguistic group can be correlated with an original population from Kantek, does that mean that both the early shamans of East Asia and the circle-people of Europe (with the pyramid people further south) have their origins on Kantek?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And does the difference in phenotype between the two groups indicate admixture of the East Asian Kantekkians with a more native group that was already on Earth?

A: Yes. And notice the ongoing dispute over the "out of Africa" versus the "out of Asia" groups. It is an improper assumption. Out of Kantek vs out of Earth is a better formulation.

So my guess is that one reason the C's may have answered 'close' about Cro-Magnon man is that by the time of what we think of as Cro-Magnon man (based on archaeological evidence and so on), the Kantekkians had already blended with the native Earth population to a certain extent, so that you could no longer talk about a 'pure' Kantekkian race anymore because it no longer existed.

So the souls who desired physicality, by entering into the bodies mutated the DNA causing changes in their physical aspect as well as other. If the DNA is directly related to the Soul then what happened to the Kantekkian race when it was moved to Earth? Were the early descendants of the Aryans subject to any change in their DNA structure with other Terran-bounded souls occupying such bodies, and what about the other way round? Or were the souls at that time "free" to incarnate into both the Earth and Kantek? I'm basically trying to understand what happened at a soul-level with the "merging" of these races.

My own guess right now is that there was a single Earth population that was created through Orion intervention 309,000 years ago by transferring souls into some kind of primate species, and at this point the population was undifferentiated. References given by Laura above suggest that after this, the Orions kept some kind of a human genetic template in their labs off-world that could be tweaked genetically to suit the specific environment of the Earth at various times when new 'models' were experimented with and planted on Earth at different geographic locales. The creation of the Kantek population would have had to have either occurred directly from these Orion labs (using those original templates), or otherwise used an already extant Earth population that was abducted, genetically modified, and then moved to Kantek after that modification. This is supported partly by this excerpt:

Q: (L) Which race on earth is the oldest?
A: All are same.

Q: (L) Even the Aryan/Celts from the other planet?
A: Yes.

This age would be that of the original genetic line (or model) produced by the introduction of souls into primates, and since all later models are based on the original, they would all technically be the same 'age'. In any case, it seems that the match between the soul and human genome was already congruent by the time the 'Kantek model' was created, so that 'human' souls should have been able to incarnate into either Kantekkian or Earth bodies. That's my understanding at present -- whether or not souls 'commuted' between Earth and Kantek in between incarnations is an excellent question.

Edit: added final quote above

 

[Approaching Infinity]

OK, here are some thoughts. The creation of humanoid forms seems like a hyperdimensional process. A proper environment is needed to "molecularize" the bodies, but it looks like the manipulations are done in higher densities. The bodies are created elsewhere and then "brought" to host planets, again probably by hyperdimensional means (but not necessarily). Sheldrake points out that there is as yet no evidence that genes determine the specific form an organism takes (of course, this doesn't mean they don't, just that a broader perspective is needed to see how it all works). Genes code for production of proteins which then "grow into" a species-specific form. He hypothesizes a field which he speculates may be hyperdimensional in nature. So creating new bodies seems to involve altering the genes which "match" to souls of varying levels.

So what exactly does it mean that the Kantekkians were "brought" to Earth? Were they simply hauled in a ship and transported here (whether taking jump into hyperspace and then remolecularizing or not), or was it a soul/reincarnation process as described for the first Earth humans? From the descriptions I'd say more like the former, but I'm not sure. If they were "dropped" here, they could have quickly mingled with the "natives", so to say. Or they could have incarnated in their bodies, also changing them.

The C's say Neanderthals (prototype 3) were here from 5.3 MYA to approximately 80 KYA, when the new model was introduced, and they co-existed with this model for 233 years. I take this to mean that after 233 years the last of the Neanderthals were taken off planet (however, their genes lived on from mating with Earth population at the time). They also say that human beings (or perhaps Blacks specifically, depending on how you read it) were created by mixing Nordic genes with Neanderthal. Nordic or Aryan seems to be more of a generic term for certain prototypes, but more specific in other contexts.

Now, trying to get the timeline straight, it looks like while Neanderthal was still around one "new type" was introduced around 300 KYA, probably in Africa. Did this type mix with Neanderthal during the hundreds of thousand years they coexisted?

Also, if Neanderthal plus Nordic produced Negro genetics (again, not sure which question they were answering), and Aryan and Negro produced Semites ("partly"), this could have something do with it.

One interesting quote is the response "could be one and the same" to the question about "celts from Kantek" and "nephilim hybrids". So these have something in common. Could it be a great tendency to ruthlessness and domination?

 

[Eboard10]

^^ You have taken an interesting approach, Approaching Infinity.

Regarding Kantek, this quote seems to suggest that the Kantekkians were physically brought to Earth rather than through a reincarnation process.

May 31, 1997
Q: Let's back up here. You said that the Celts came from Kantek.
They were transported by the Lizzies... brought here, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: When the Lizzies did this, how many Celts were physically
brought here?
A: Hundreds of millions.
Q: How long, in our terms, did it take to bring these Celts to this
planet? Or, is this ongoing?
A: Well, in the sense that you measure it, let us say about a week.
Q: Did they transport them in ships -- that is some sort of structure.
That is, did they load them up, move them into 4th density, and
reemerge here in 3rd density or something like that?
A: Close.
Q: And they unloaded them in the area of the Caucasus, is that
correct?
A: And regions surrounding.
Q: And, that was what, 79 to 80 thousand years ago?
A: Over 80,000.

 

[Laura]

OK, here are some thoughts. The creation of humanoid forms seems like a hyperdimensional process. A proper environment is needed to "molecularize" the bodies, but it looks like the manipulations are done in higher densities. The bodies are created elsewhere and then "brought" to host planets, again probably by hyperdimensional means (but not necessarily). Sheldrake points out that there is as yet no evidence that genes determine the specific form an organism takes (of course, this doesn't mean they don't, just that a broader perspective is needed to see how it all works). Genes code for production of proteins which then "grow into" a species-specific form. He hypothesizes a field which he speculates may be hyperdimensional in nature. So creating new bodies seems to involve altering the genes which "match" to souls of varying levels.

I'm thinking that the "moleculariztion" is something that happens at a very basic level, like literally molecular. There is something that happens - and I have a paper on it somewhere that I've been looking for all morning - that describes the process of life inserting itself into matter under very particular (and primitive) conditions. Once that happens, there is a direct connection between higher densities and matter and it is there that I think that Sheldrake's theories come into play. In other words, it isn't necessary for every stage of the process to be handled directly if you just give things a kick start - boot strap - and the process of evolution takes over. Because, clearly, evolutionary processes do play a big part in what happens in matter.

But there also has to be more than just that. For example, Hoyle and Wickramasinghe promoted the theory that life evolved in space, spreading through the universe via panspermia, and that evolution on earth is driven by a steady influx of viruses arriving via comets. The reason for this was that it was pretty clear that evolution could not have done all that has been done leading to higher forms of life in the period of the Earth's existence. Hoyle calculated that the chance of obtaining the required set of enzymes for even the simplest living cell was one in 10^40,000. He argued that even a whole universe full of primordial soup wouldn't give rise to evolutionary processes. Hoyle compared the random emergence of even the simplest cell to the likelihood that "a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein." Hoyle also compared the chance of obtaining even a single functioning protein by chance combination of amino acids to a solar system full of blind men solving Rubik's Cube simultaneously. Richard Dawkins, of course, refers to this as "Hoyle's Fallacy." (Dawkins is an idiot, but what else is new?)

So, they figured that stuff must have evolved elsewhere and the basic codes of DNA were brought to Earth from elsewhere.

Of course, that still leaves us with the question: where did THOSE forms of life that contributed to that DNA that was brought to earth evolve?

So, obviously, there is conscious application of design improvements at various stages, though certainly there are periods where evolution alone is in operation. (Or so it seems to me.)

I've been reading a ton of stuff that proposes to answer the questions of human origins, or to describe the "natural processes," and it just doesn't go there no matter how hard they try. Still, it is interesting to read such works to get a good handle on as much of what is empirically known as possible, keeping in mind that they often cherry-pick information.

I was recently reading Tattersall's "The World from Beginnings to 4000 BC" and wrote about it to a correspondent along the lines that I was really being lulled by it until he launched off on Egypt and the Natufian... and then my mind flashed back to those stone vases in the Louvre that were clearly made with high technology and it hit me between the eyes how they really do cherry-pick their information. Anything that conflicts with their established view is simply ignored. I found that to be a disconcerting sensation since I was so much just LIKING the guy and his style of writing. He was so knowledgeable and trustworthy and all that... and boom! The realization that he was either deliberately lying/obfuscating, or was truly taken in himself hit. Can't decide which is worse. But anyway, I DO highly recommend that book along with Steven Mithen's "The Prehistory of the Mind."

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

On the subject, here's an interesting video that suggests that DNA is pre-coded to be all the possible variations of life on Earth, and it is the changes and needs of an environment that "triggers" the evolution/creation of a particular species. I don't think that's all there is to it, but it may be at least partly correct. And of course this doesn't explain where the original DNA comes from in the first place - although at the beginning of the video it is acknowledged that the universe has no beginning, which seems to imply that there may not have been an "original" creation of life itself, but that is hard concept to wrap our linear human minds around.

He also suggests that high-level beings like humans did evolve from apes and neanderthals and so on, although we have evidence to the contrary. So this video may not be correct for all life on our planet, but I do wonder if it is even possible for 3rd density beings to literally evolve from single-celled organisms without being explicitly and separately engineered in a lab - if it is enough to simply seed a planet with basic life and make 3rd and higher density life be possible. This may involve conscious influence of higher densities to "spur" the evolution perhaps, but I'd still call that evolution and it is different from separately engineering beings in a lab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZyFzkUC4c

By the way, Laura - love the new avatar :)

 

[cholas]

Fascinating thread, thank you.

I was a bit confused(also) on the dates of Neanderthal's existance here, according to C's.

The C's say Neanderthals (prototype 3) were here from 5.3 MYA to approximately 80 KYA, when the new model was introduced, and they co-existed with this model for 233 years. I take this to mean that after 233 years the last of the Neanderthals were taken off planet (however, their genes lived on from mating with Earth population at the time). They also say that human beings (or perhaps Blacks specifically, depending on how you read it) were created by mixing Nordic genes with Neanderthal. Nordic or Aryan seems to be more of a generic term for certain prototypes, but more specific in other contexts.

Seems fairly clear, but then there is mention of Neanderthal in India in the not-so-distant past:

Q: When did the Aryans invade India?
A: 8243 years ago.
Q: Who was there before that?
A: Asian tribes and number 3 prototype.
Q: What is a number 3 prototype?
A: Known as Neanderthal man.

I guess 'before that' could imply 80,000 years ago? Or has there been a more recent admixture?