Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Lumiere_du_Code said:
I highly doubt that people with pots on their heads (that's how we refer to all Maidan supporters / brainwashed "patriots" here) have realized anything and made conclusions. In their blind insane hatred and total non-reconciliation they will never realize anything, they will not be able to add up 2 + 2.
I see only one way to transform Ukraine: all current generations must die and new generations must be educated without this absolute Russophobia, planting hatred to everyone else, feeling of superiority over others and boundless self-esteem with full confidence that "Ukraine uber alles" and Ukrainian is the master of the world.

Part of the problem is that it all started mostly with the rural residents of the western part of the country, "from the farm," which adequate Ukrainians call "roguli / raguli (рагули)", i.e. a kind of wild tribe of underdeveloped beings who, like cockroaches, have spread all over the country, dictating their own rules, "order" and "concepts of right" and are absolutely irreconcilable to any other point of view or opinion. They don't want or know how to work, they really are like cancer cells, infecting everything around them, they can only destroy and degrade everything.
They are the driving force behind the Maidan and the chaos and mayhem that followed. Even 150 years ago it was about the same in that native region: western Ukraine. They have lived under the rule of Austria-Hungary and the Rzeczpospolita (Poland) for many centuries and have nothing in common with the Russian Slavs. It was on them that the West placed its bets. And now they dominate and rule everything here.

They even had to rewrite not only their history, but also their culture. Because the Ukrainian idea is very proud of its writers, turning them into agents of Ukrainian patriotism and propaganda (after their death, of course, when they could not object to anything). Taras Shevchenko, Grigory Skovoroda, and others did NOT call themselves Ukrainians. They explicitly stated in their letters that they considered themselves Ruthenians (Rusins / русины). One of them wrote to a friend: "I was mortally insulted today: they called me a Ukrainian." Taras Shevchenko, as far as I know, wrote many of his poems in Russian, it was after his death they were distorted, rewritten and translated into Ukrainian. Most of his friends were Russians.
Examples abound. The Ukrainian idea is an artificial, ugly creature, imposed from the outside and bringing only grief and chaos.

Unfortunately, I see no other way to change anything except to take complete control over the education of new generations and a complete change in culture. But to do this, its need to purge the entire current Ukrainian government and all centers of influence.
However, I don't think there will be time for all this anymore, as all the other world events appear on the horizon.
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Sad, but thats how it is in the world we live in.

In Serbia, we also have Rusins as a national minority (Rusin, Rusini plural). Well known for their craftmanship and naive art (together with Slovaks). After the colored revolution in 2000. when USAID's non governmental organizations ruled our country, they tried to persuade them that they are "Ukrainians" and that they speak Ukrainian. Fortunately they resisted and stayed Rusins.

Later, with the government of Aleksandar Vucic, deep state's NGOs lost lots of their power and become "important" just on paper, not so much in the reality.
 
hlat said:
hlat wrote: Can you please stop these rants? All current generations must die?
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Re Lumiere_du-Code post above. "I see only one way to transform Ukraine: all current generations must die and new generations must be educated without this absolute Russophobia."
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Well they will all die at some point, I gulped too at first then re-read it. I projected onto it that the meaning was to end forcibly end their lives immediately if not sooner. The longer description of what these people were or had become made me query who are these people? I read that Ukraine at one point in the last century was flourishing, industry, farming, and peoples' incomes were sufficient. Lumiere_du-Code calls them cockroaches, that's where I really gulped. I have read on the forum and elsewhere that lots of Ukrainian people are malnourished, unhealthy, no adequate medical services, who knows what education and so little resource and resort to and anger and feel hopeless but then are pointed at a target to blame. They have been manipulated by NATO et al. probably at least since the Soviet Union disolved. The overall position in the post may be accurate.

The heartbreak and disgust I've felt for our Prime Minister and others re Covid and Ukraine/Russia, etc., for instance, I didn't think 'cockroaches' but have a strong mix of emotions, I'd describe it for starters as horror.

Maybe it is wishful thinking to hold out that a strain of psychopathy in a group of people can ever really change except in rare humans.

Bottom line, I ask Lumiere_du_Code to tell me more about the history as witnessed and what justifies the vitriol and name calling from a personal experience or point of view. Is that kind of hatred useful? Asking myself whether the psychopathy of the Canadian Govt and others on Covid, this Ukraine/Russian war, the non-response to the Trucker Convoy from Trudeau, etc. has let me just feel helpless to do anything but be massively irritated. Maybe confusion of reasonable self-protection with guilt at not being able to change it all? Which also could come from an unrealistic feeling of inner power, like I should be able to be a heroine but I failed?

Learn more, then maybe demand stop the rants if there really is nothing to be learned but that a rant is a rant and it's hate speech. Hmm, I don't think the post by Lumiere_du_Code passed the test for hate speech. Or at least my sense of what hate speech would be. I will find out if anyone points out that the guidelines for the forum require we refrain from categorizing groups of people as cockroaches.

I remember the C's communicating about a bad day for the Rockerfellers and their ilk with incoming rocks with their names on them.

I feel also I am posting this in order to learn more about this forum and tolerance for 'strong language'. I hesitate to post as I fear condemnation as well, but hey, that would be good for me and I'd have to deal with it.
 
Following this publication by the Grayzone:

www.sott.net

Exposed: Before Ukraine blew up Kerch Bridge, British spies plotted it -- Sott.net

The secret British intelligence plot to blow up Crimea's Kerch Bridge is revealed in internal documents and correspondence obtained exclusively by The Grayzone. The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British...
www.sott.net www.sott.net

Russian investigative project The Underside has commented it as follows:

In the leaked documents, The Grayzone names British individuals involved in the bombing of the Crimean bridge. They are Chris Donnelly, an MI5 colonel and high-ranking NATO adviser, and Hugh Ward, a British Army veteran and developer of plans to destroy the Russian bridge.

Mr. Donnelly has already made headlines in The Underside investigations. As former director of The Institute for Statecraft, Donnelly is connected to the Integrity Initiative, which was funded directly by the British government and, like the EXPOSE network, was a CDMD (Counter Disinformation and Media Development Unit) project headed by Andy Price. All of these individuals and organizations were responsible for interfering in the internal political processes of the countries. They are all part of the anti-Russian consortium EXPOSE Network, a vast network engaged in, among other things, the instigation and activation of protest activity within Russia through information activity. Partners include the British Council, Thomson Reuters Foundation, and Bellingcat online publication.

According to Anonymous documents, Chris Donnelly was one of the co-founders of ARK FZC, an information agency that ran propaganda operations in Syria, Lebanon and the Balkans for British pounds. At the head of ARK, Donnelly went to the hottest spots in the Balkans to take them under Western control.

Now British intelligence has shifted from information warfare to terrorist attacks. The terms of the "mission" are to worsen Russia's ability to block Kiev, to undermine Moscow's military potential through disruption of road and rail access to Crimea and sea access to the Sea of Azov. Other than blowing up the bridge, the plan did not include any indication of preventing civilian casualties. The entire plan was described by Chris Donnelly as "very impressive indeed".

This is no longer "soft power," but full-scale British military action on Russian territory.
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ANOTHER BUSY MORNING FOR RUSSIAN MISSILES OVER UKRAINE​


'After the devastating attack of Russian forces on Ukrainian military and energy facilities in response to the terrorist attack on the Crimean Bridge and other strategic facilities, Russian cruise missiles and suicide UAVs did not stop to hit targets in almost all regions of the country. Since the early hours in the morning on October 11, Russian forces continue high-precision strikes on the enemy facilities in Ukraine.'

Article:

southfront.org

Another Busy Morning For Russian Missiles Over Ukraine

After the devastating attack of Russian forces on Ukrainian military and energy facilities in response to the terrorist attack on...
southfront.org southfront.org
 

US doesn’t owe Zelensky ‘a damn thing’ – congressman​


“NO MORE Foreign Aid, especially not to fund a war that we should have NO involvement in,” Gosar tweeted on Monday. “Biden and his crime family may owe Zelensky, but America doesn't owe him a damn thing,” the lawmaker added."

Article:

www.rt.com

US doesn’t owe Zelensky ‘a damn thing’ – congressman

Republican Rep. Paul Gosar has called on Washington to cut aid to Ukraine, arguing that the US should not be involved in the conflict
www.rt.com www.rt.com
 

Belarus orders its troops to be tested for 'combat readiness' after 'huge quantities of Russian soldiers entered the country' - as Lukashenko's secret service says Ukrainian invasion 'turning point' will come within weeks​


▪︎Belarus dictator Alexander Lukashenko ordered his defence ministry to carry out the readiness tests

▪︎Comes after Kyiv Post reporter said a source told him: 'Russian soldiers are entering Belarus by the trainload'

▪︎Monday saw Belarus announce a joint military task force with Moscow on the country's western border

▪︎The deployment has raised fears that Belarusian troops could join Russian forces in their invasion of Ukraine

▪︎Minsk has said the deployment deploying alongside Russian forces was a 'purely defensive' grouping

▪︎Ukraine has said that it is strengthening its northern border with Belarus amid fears of another Russian wave

▪︎Lukashenko said the task force with Russia was in response to a clear threat to Belarus from Ukraine
www.dailymail.co.uk

Putin's soldiers 'are entering Belarus in huge quantities'

The deployment has raised fears that Belarusian troops could join Russian forces in their struggling mission to capture and hold territory in east Ukraine.
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Pepe Escobar has all the details about the operation at The Saker. One driver is still alive and is testifying, the other is dead. Looks like it was a multi pronged attack including electronic hijacking of the train making it halt at the site of the explosion. An attempt to ‘muddy the waters’ and make it harder to trace the culprits. Though Russia has already identified them
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Terror on Crimea Bridge forces Russia to unleash Shock’n Awe | The Vineyard of the Saker

A bird's eye view of the vineyard

The Vineyard of the Saker

Terror on Crimea Bridge forces Russia to unleash Shock’n Awe | The Vineyard of the Saker

A bird's eye view of the vineyard
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Puma said:
From the beginning of the #RussiaUkraineWar #Ukrainian and Western media have been faking destruction and crimes allegedly caused by #Russia to make Russia look bad. In social media the latest example is a footage originally from Lebanon. 🤡
https://twitter.com/x/status/1579746455119880192
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It's funny that this video comes up again, since it had already been used by Ukrainian propaganda a few months ago and had been denied on that occasion as well.

Meanwhile more fake propaganda:IMG_20221011_122116_148.jpg
 
Lyndi Lama said:
Well they will all die at some point, I gulped too at first then re-read it. I projected onto it that the meaning was to end forcibly end their lives immediately if not sooner. The longer description of what these people were or had become made me query who are these people? I read that Ukraine at one point in the last century was flourishing, industry, farming, and peoples' incomes were sufficient. Lumiere_du-Code calls them cockroaches, that's where I really gulped. I have read on the forum and elsewhere that lots of Ukrainian people are malnourished, unhealthy, no adequate medical services, who knows what education and so little resource and resort to and anger and feel hopeless but then are pointed at a target to blame. They have been manipulated by NATO et al. probably at least since the Soviet Union disolved. The overall position in the post may be accurate.

The heartbreak and disgust I've felt for our Prime Minister and others re Covid and Ukraine/Russia, etc., for instance, I didn't think 'cockroaches' but have a strong mix of emotions, I'd describe it for starters as horror.

Maybe it is wishful thinking to hold out that a strain of psychopathy in a group of people can ever really change except in rare humans.

Bottom line, I ask Lumiere_du_Code to tell me more about the history as witnessed and what justifies the vitriol and name calling from a personal experience or point of view. Is that kind of hatred useful? Asking myself whether the psychopathy of the Canadian Govt and others on Covid, this Ukraine/Russian war, the non-response to the Trucker Convoy from Trudeau, etc. has let me just feel helpless to do anything but be massively irritated. Maybe confusion of reasonable self-protection with guilt at not being able to change it all? Which also could come from an unrealistic feeling of inner power, like I should be able to be a heroine but I failed?

Learn more, then maybe demand stop the rants if there really is nothing to be learned but that a rant is a rant and it's hate speech. Hmm, I don't think the post by Lumiere_du_Code passed the test for hate speech. Or at least my sense of what hate speech would be. I will find out if anyone points out that the guidelines for the forum require we refrain from categorizing groups of people as cockroaches.

I remember the C's communicating about a bad day for the Rockerfellers and their ilk with incoming rocks with their names on them.

I feel also I am posting this in order to learn more about this forum and tolerance for 'strong language'. I hesitate to post as I fear condemnation as well, but hey, that would be good for me and I'd have to deal with it.
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And @hlat

I have to admit that I was very surprised by the reaction to my post.
I did not mean to imply that all Maidan supporters, patriots of Nazi Ukraine, and all those who hate everything Russian here and, above all, every person who does not share their love for this goddamn state, does not heroize Bandera, etc. should be killed.
There is a proverb in the Russian language: A humpbacked man will be reformed [only] in his grave. My point was that these people can no longer be "fixed". They will not change in the sense of common sense, tolerance for others, for a different vision of the world other than their own. It is an irreversible process in most cases. I lost all my friends and acquaintances I had here after Maidan began. I see every day what the people around say and think. How even simply neutral citizens who were indifferent to Russia have come to hate it. Because from the point of view of Ukrainians, Russia's actions are an invasion and war against their country and themselves. That's how most people perceive it. Especially those who are losing their homes, who suffered in one way or another from the events after February 24th (including loss of jobs, for example, forced evacuation and so on), who had someone killed or hurt. I'm not excusing them in their hatred or feelings of anger, I'm just saying how it is perceived by them. 8 out of 10 people I know who were quite normal people before the "invasion" have now become "rabid patriots", supporters of the AFU, Bandera, glorifying Zelensky, etc. I have cut off almost all contacts, because I have nothing to do with them. But my parents still communicate with such people, for example.
I watched a former colleague of mine, with whom we communicated well, move 2 years ago to Vinnitsa (a region between the east and west of the country, but ideologically and culturally closer to the west and all these ideas), and within half a year of living there she began to speak Ukrainian instead of Russian, picked up all those views, and after February 24 she completely became a "patriot" and hater of Russia. It was painful for me to watch this transformation. This is just one example. Culture, environment, and social circle have a very strong influence on people, especially if they are unprincipled and uninformed.

Don't take my words so terribly hostile and insulting. I didn't directly call those people cockroaches there, I wrote SUBJECTLY, referring to how quickly they appeared everywhere and how they began to encroach on everything around them. But, by the way, they are really disliked by other people because all the lawlessness, lawlessness, violence, destruction and problems come from them, they are the ones who brought the Maidan and coup d'état on themselves and then forced out all the adequate people. No offense, but you have little idea of life in Ukraine here. When any this "patriot" can just beat and even kill a person in front of a crowd of people and even surrounded by police (!) - and he won't get anything for it. On the contrary, he will be made a hero and he will be protected by the SBU, the MIA and the president's office itself. Moreover, now even the policemen, members of the territorial defense and military themselves tie people to poles, undress them, beat them and humiliate them in every way, videotape this and post it on tik-tok and other social networks. Can you imagine this in your own country? Ukraine is Europe, they repeat every day. And they would lynch me on the spot for being a "wrong Ukrainian". Just for the fact that I don't shout "Glory to Ukraine". If they shout it and demand that you answer "Heil to the heroes", but you don't - that's already the crime and a reason to conclude that you are a traitor and supporter of Russia. And for that, they will punish you by any means necessary. And they have only one "law": physical violence. So you were too hasty in assessing my previous post as "ranting".

Ever since the coup d'état and the junta came to power, I have been living in my own country like a prisoner. I can't discuss the civil war, the shelling of Donbass, or anything else with anyone, because any of them can just go and report me to the Gestapo as a "separatist" and traitor. Jeez, in Ukrainian cities there are banners like "if you see a separatist, take him in to the SBU" on billboards and walls of houses. Especially in Dnepropetrovsk, my regional center, which is the personal principality of Kolomoisky and his tame mayor Filatov, who is known for his regular criminal statements and methods, one of which is "promise anything to these eastern separatists, we will hang them after." Kolomoisky's bank was paying money for an "action" called "bring us a separatist and get a reward". And all these "patriots" are settling personal scores and they can call absolutely anyone a traitor and an "accomplice of Putin" and thus their violence against these people will be legal and encouraged. And all this was long before the "Russian invasion", since Maidan ends, so it's even much worse now. It was all these brutal massacres, torture and executions of people that I meant when I wrote here earlier about the consequences of Russian troops fleeing from the territories they controlled. It is not a disaster for Russia and SMO, it is a disaster for all those thousands of residents who automatically became collaborators and enemies for Ukraine and who were brutally tortured and killed. But none of that matters at all, does it? It's so boring, and I "can't see the forest for the trees," of course. I don't need to think that I think in such a limited way. I discuss a lot of things with friends every day, global things, I can analyze and try to see more, "read between the lines." And I'm not a troll or a toxic critic who's only doing nothing but being unhappy and resentful of everything for no reason. I'm not. It's just that not everyone likes to see something that has little appeal when you can ignore it or explain it away so as not to spoil your impression and your views.

So I have the right to treat the "patriots of Ukraine" that way, but I don't hate or call for anyone to be killed or anything else. I am always guided by the principle that "any creature has the right to do anything, as long as it does not interfere with or harm others. This reflects the principle of free will, don't you agree? If someone disturbs me or, even more so, tries to do something to me against my will, I will not be happy about it and will try to counteract it. Although all the laws of men are arranged in such a way that the good man has no opportunity to defend himself and makes a criminal out of the victim, but protects the bad man. I think you know this yourself.

I hope I have made my position clear.
 
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