Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

"If such a decision is taken, it will mean nothing short of direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, European countries, in the war in Ukraine. This would constitute their direct participation, and this, of course, changes the very essence, the very nature of the conflict. It will mean that NATO countries, the United States and European countries, are at war with Russia. And if this is so, bearing in mind the change in the very nature of the conflict, we will make appropriate decisions based on the threats that will be posed to us," Putin said."

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It seems like some form of "escalation" may be finally coming. But what it will look like remains open. It's happening right now because Ukraine is on the cusp of defeat.

Western countries - primarily the US and UK as "off-shore nations" - are attempting to do what they did in WW2: embroil mainland Europe in a war, with Putin playing the part of "Hitler". The goal being to economically 'downgrade' both Russia and the EU, leaving the real "Atlantic alliance" (US/UK) to reap the benefits and stave off their own economic decline.

As noted here already, the only justification that the US could come up with for allowing UK/France-made and US-directed cruise missiles (and long range US-supplied ATACAMs already in Ukraine's arsenal) to be used against military targets well-inside Russia is the bogus claim that Russia 'bought' Iranian ballistic missiles. But even if Russia has acquired Iranian ballistic missiles to use in Ukraine, this is hardly an escalation given that Russia has been using its own far more advanced missiles in Ukraine long before now.

But in the deviant minds of US/UK warmongers, Russia adding low-grade Iranian ballistic missiles to Russia's already advanced arsenal for use in Ukraine, is equivalent to the US/UK adding high-grade cruise missiles to Ukraine's relatively low-grade arsenal for use - BY NATO PERSONNEL - against Russian military sites! :umm:

There's clearly only one side "escalating" here.

Russia's forbearance in the face of US/UK provocations over the past few years has been laudable. The US/UK is engaging in psychopathic 'game theory', slowly and increasingly goading Russia in an effort to provoke it into targeting NATO sites outside of Ukraine, like in Poland, or even Germany.

The possibility that NATO forces inside Ukraine would use UK-made and US-directed cruise missiles against military sites in Russia would, as Putin has said, mean that NATO (primarily US/UK) is objectively at war with Russia.

Ukraine does not possess such weapons, and it's not even a case of the US/UK "giving" them to Ukraine. Such weapons must be installed, launched and directed by US/UK personnel. As an analogy, consider if, tomorrow, you heard that Ukraine had launched a nuclear weapon (which Ukraine does not have) at Russia. Who would believe that it was Ukraine doing that? And what would be the conclusion about the real authors' intention? To "defend Ukraine"? Or destroy Russia?

The unavoidable truth here is that if UK-French/US cruise and long range missiles are fired at Russian sites, then it will clearly mean that the US/UK are using their own weapons to target Russia. The only part Ukraine plays is that its land is used as the firing location.

The legitimate response of this *actual* US/UK escalation would be for Russia to directly target NATO military sites outside of Ukraine. But will Russia do that?

The Russian govt. (and most of the Russian people) are well aware that this is precisely what the US/UK want to see happen. Because they can then point to this as 'evidence' that they were right all along, that Putin planned to expand the war outside of Ukraine and into Eastern Europe and beyond, and they (the US/UK) have been justified in training arming and funding the Ukrainian military since 2014.

This is the kind of "grab me gotcha" or nigysob tactics that the US/UK use in dealing with Russia, and anyone else they deem a threat to their hegemony. Whether or not Russia has the smarts to deal with appropriately remains to be seen.
 
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Anyone knows from what documentary this clip is?
I’ve forwarded the clip to my husband, if he doesn’t know, he will forward it to his friends and contacts, see what they know.
Just for reference, My husband and his gang of scum and villainy are a wealth of knowledge.
Most of them are retired, several holding History degrees, most were in the Canadian Forces, and more than a few are authors of world war historical texts.
They watch shows like the one that clip is from on endless loops.
Oh, and they also build the most amazing, accurate war machine/aircraft scale models for creativity breaks!
They are ALL anoraks and Pedantic as all hell, but also really great guys, and ;-):cool2:knowledge keepers.
 
I’ve forwarded the clip to my husband, if he doesn’t know, he will forward it to his friends and contacts, see what they know.
Just for reference, My husband and his gang of scum and villainy are a wealth of knowledge.
Most of them are retired, several holding History degrees, most were in the Canadian Forces, and more than a few are authors of world war historical texts.
They watch shows like the one that clip is from on endless loops.
Oh, and they also build the most amazing, accurate war machine/aircraft scale models for creativity breaks!
They are ALL anoraks and Pedantic as all hell, but also really great guys, and ;-):cool2:knowledge keepers.

Thank you, Debra, you seem to be just the right person to get this kind of information. :-)
I tried to ask ChatGPT, but it cannot watch videos. At least not in the free version. When I gave him some clues, it answered this:

The clip you mentioned likely refers to a theory that World War I was initiated as a preventive war by Germany due to concerns over Russia's rapidly expanding railway system. This theory suggests that the railway network would enable Russia to mobilize its troops faster, posing a strategic threat to Germany.

If you're looking for documentaries on this specific aspect, series like The Great War or episodes from World War I: The Complete Story might cover similar ideas. However, I would need more details to pinpoint the exact documentary.
 
Sorry, it was a few more minutes than I anticipated, had to wait for my husband to wake.
Didn’t take him long, he is very familiar with the work of one of the narrators, John C.G. Rohl.
So, on YouTube, the trailer is called “The long road to War”.
The PBS trailer:

Dailymotion has the full 1:57 minute documentary.
My browser is outdated, so I can’t access it to leave a link unfortunately.
 
Does this mean that Russian response would be to strike deep inside NATO countries?
I don't think Russia would retaliate by striking the NATO countries responsible for missile strikes from Ukraine. I think they will hold back and continue to focus on the war at hand. Russia has good air defense systems and my guess is most ballistic missile attacks would be shot down. Russia would retaliate with a large missile strike of their own but limit the attacks to Ukrainian territory.
 
Does this mean that Russian response would be to strike deep inside NATO countries?
Methinks they’d strike targets like US airfields in Poland and Romania which are feeding items (like the F-16) to Ukraine. Something tactical but not on home soil. “You fire a missile, we take out a runway.” Enough to leave a scar but not enough to cry havoc.
 
Does this mean that Russian response would be to strike deep inside NATO countries?
Andrei has a lovely way of explaining how much he loves England (and Pink Floyd), but that much like the US did with Iraq, Russia might use the UK as “a crappy little country to throw against the wall” as an example. He also makes pretty plain that the word in the west is that Putin’s message was heard loud and clear.
https://youtu.be/Nm4HnJg4wy8?
 
Great analysis here by The Duran. Among other interesting points, the Americans will let the Brits do the dirty work of allowing the Stormshadow missiles fly deep into Russia, so they (the US) can get to the elections claiming that Ukraine was left in a somewhat advantageous position, while at the same time being able to say that they were not involved in the move against Russia at all.

Meanwhile, the US neocons plus the British bureaucracy all seem eager to go ahead with the plan, because in their minds the Russians will have only two options: to react in a way that will provoke NATO into intervening directly, or to do nothing and cause a political crisis inside Russia that will hurt Putin, the Brics, etc.

In reality, the Russians have several options to respond that do not necessarily mean WWIII, and that will hurt the UK. For starters, cutting all diplomatic relations, seizing UK assets within Russia, such as the embassy building as well as BP's oil infrastructure, and others. Also, providing weapons to NATO adversaries around the globe, etc. The neocons make their usual mistake of thinking that their opponents are simple minded, when the Russians are way more sophisticated than that and have probably been contemplating their options and consulting with allies for several months now.

 
It seems like some form of "escalation" may be finally coming. But what it will look like remains open. It's happening right now because Ukraine is on the cusp of defeat.

Western countries - primarily the US and UK as "off-shore nations" - are attempting to do what they did in WW2: embroil mainland Europe in a war, with Putin playing the part of "Hitler". The goal being to economically 'downgrade' both Russia and the EU, leaving the real "Atlantic alliance" (US/UK) to reap the benefits and stave off their own economic decline.

As noted here already, the only justification that the US could come up with for allowing UK/France-made and US-directed cruise missiles (and long range US-supplied ATACAMs already in Ukraine's arsenal) to be used against military targets well-inside Russia is the bogus claim that Russia 'bought' Iranian ballistic missiles. But even if Russia has acquired Iranian ballistic missiles to use in Ukraine, this is hardly an escalation given that Russia has been using its own far more advanced missiles in Ukraine long before now.

But in the deviant minds of US/UK warmongers, Russia adding low-grade Iranian ballistic missiles to Russia's already advanced arsenal for use in Ukraine, is equivalent to the US/UK adding high-grade cruise missiles to Ukraine's relatively low-grade arsenal for use - BY NATO PERSONNEL - against Russian military sites! :umm:

There's clearly only one side "escalating" here.

Russia's forbearance in the face of US/UK provocations over the past few years has been laudable. The US/UK is engaging in psychopathic 'game theory', slowly and increasingly goading Russia in an effort to provoke it into targeting NATO sites outside of Ukraine, like in Poland, or even Germany.

The possibility that NATO forces inside Ukraine would use UK-made and US-directed cruise missiles against military sites in Russia would, as Putin has said, mean that NATO (primarily US/UK) is objectively at war with Russia.

Ukraine does not possess such weapons, and it's not even a case of the US/UK "giving" them to Ukraine. Such weapons must be installed, launched and directed by US/UK personnel. As an analogy, consider if, tomorrow, you heard that Ukraine had launched a nuclear weapon (which Ukraine does not have) at Russia. Who would believe that it was Ukraine doing that? And what would be the conclusion about the real authors' intention? To "defend Ukraine"? Or destroy Russia?

The unavoidable truth here is that if UK-French/US cruise and long range missiles are fired at Russian sites, then it will clearly mean that the US/UK are using their own weapons to target Russia. The only part Ukraine plays is that its land is used as the firing location.

The legitimate response of this *actual* US/UK escalation would be for Russia to directly target NATO military sites outside of Ukraine. But will Russia do that?

The Russian govt. (and most of the Russian people) are well aware that this is precisely what the US/UK want to see happen. Because they can then point to this as 'evidence' that they were right all along, that Putin planned to expand the war outside of Ukraine and into Eastern Europe and beyond, and they (the US/UK) have been justified in training arming and funding the Ukrainian military since 2014.

This is the kind of "grab me gotcha" or nigysob tactics that the US/UK use in dealing with Russia, and anyone else they deem a threat to their hegemony. Whether or not Russia has the smarts to deal with appropriately remains to be seen.

I think it is safe to say that one reason Russia is so remarkably restrained in their countermeasures is, that they, or more specifically, Putin and his team, have learned from history and are unwilling to repeat lessons the hard way. Just one prime example of that is WW2 and how the PTB primarily used Russians (around 27 million of them) by manipulating them to fight their fight. One major reason for that was surely that they in reality wanted as many Russians to die as possible while stealing their land.

I‘m pretty sure, at least under Putin, that they are keenly aware of the fact that they want to manipulate Russia into doing something like that again. But they simply refuse to let millions of Russians die, yet again, because the PTB want that. Therefore, I think only under the most dire circumstances would Russia even contemplate going that far again. In fact, I do think, even in that case, they would probably first opt for a devastating blow with hypersonic missiles instead or even some kind of nuclear thing before even thinking about putting millions of Russians on the brink of death, yet again.
 
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