Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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SOTTREADER
The Living Force
So this is basically them throwing a tantrum because Trump won the elections. I'm sure the Russians know that but what worries me is how effective these missiles are - if they are effective and can cause damage deep inside Russia, then I fully expect a robust Russian response... perhaps hitting military sites in other countries in Eastern Europe.
If the missiles are ineffective then nothing significant will happen.
In any case, I think something crazy will happen to try and disrupt the Trump inauguration and presidency.
If the missiles are ineffective then nothing significant will happen.
In any case, I think something crazy will happen to try and disrupt the Trump inauguration and presidency.
Based on what I've read, they're not that effective. ATACMS have been used throughout the SMO in Ukraine, with hundreds of launches against Russian targets, and Russian Air Defense was capable of handling about 90% of them in 2024. The ATACMS missile is no Iskander.
Even the announcement is basically a NATO declaration of war on Russia, tho, based on what Putin said previously. And even one ATACMS getting through and causing damage in Moscow for instance would be a significant provocation, and would likely lead the Russians to target NATOs Intelligence/Surveillance/Reconnaissance infrastructure, or even targeting sites in Europe. I don't know if they'd go so far as to target sites in the US.
It's all pretty crazy! The Russians have been very careful to slowly grind away the NATO forces in Ukraine so far. That may change with this ATACMS announcement, based on Putin's warnings about responding to long-range missiles - he has also said that when a fight is clearly going to happen, it's best to punch first. So who knows at this point.
mantle
Jedi
I am a non person living in the centre of the monetary news blackout : The City is broke and can't be fixed.
In fact the entire financial system of the West , which is in unaccountable hands that insure profits out of wars, and have done so for hundreds of years, when broke like they are today, are left with only war so that they can continue profiting . Today the vast majority of so called humans think that is all a joke.
Well...
" A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown. came out to warn the public but they thought it was a joke.
He repeated the warning but the applause was even greater.
I think that's just how our world will come to an end : To general applause from those who believe it's all a joke ." [ Soren Kirkegaard }
You and I are living in a destruction that is fully orchestrated.
The heart of man is desperately wicked.
Today the senile in the White House , in obedience to the bankers , has unleashed the dogs of war.
What a difference a day makes.
In fact the entire financial system of the West , which is in unaccountable hands that insure profits out of wars, and have done so for hundreds of years, when broke like they are today, are left with only war so that they can continue profiting . Today the vast majority of so called humans think that is all a joke.
Well...
" A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown. came out to warn the public but they thought it was a joke.
He repeated the warning but the applause was even greater.
I think that's just how our world will come to an end : To general applause from those who believe it's all a joke ." [ Soren Kirkegaard }
You and I are living in a destruction that is fully orchestrated.
The heart of man is desperately wicked.
Today the senile in the White House , in obedience to the bankers , has unleashed the dogs of war.
What a difference a day makes.
ApotheosisMMC.
Jedi Council Member
Complementing what you have said, in addition to the fact that the impact of long-range missiles with reduced range has been less (they have hit Russian warehouses, ships and submarines in the Black Sea, but that will not change the course of the war) the Russians have increasingly learned to neutralize them and confront them in a better way,
I even remember those news where Strom Shadowns were used together with decoy missiles not mentioned in the aid packages to Ukraine, the warheads are not usually so huge in these weapons, around 250 kilos with the exception of 500 kilos in the case of some more advanced ones such as the Strom Shadown SCALP-EG, some of these missiles can use cluster munitions that could also be used against civilians to generate terror, it must also be taken into account that for their maximum range the Strom Shadown must be launched from airplanes which Ukraine does not have in abundance at the moment so the launches would be very limited,
finally it should be noted that the greater range The ATACMS together with other long-range missiles allows to attack various targets such as bases, airfields and weapons depots that were not previously available; to reach Moscow only the SCALP-EG can reach, but there is a but, that range of 560 kilometers is the radial range that is where the signal reaches, the effective range of this variant of Strom Shadown would be around 400 kilometers.
In any case, the important thing is that it would be an attack with the participation of NATO satellites.
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In past few months we could feel somethings happening „in the air“,something horrible.And now we see first step.
Obviously,west scum getting more and more desperate.They puppet is on his way out and they know that Trump will not follow their steps that much.To use marionette they throw everything they can.Their despair is growing and we can expect more these kind of actions.I think a lot more in the following days.
On the other side its just unbelievable how much patience have Russia.Its amazing how much they take into account in order to do as little damage as possible.Its gonna be very interesting how will Russia respond.
Anyway,if anyone thought this was awful until now,they better prepare well,because i think something special is comming.
Fasten your seat belt!
Obviously,west scum getting more and more desperate.They puppet is on his way out and they know that Trump will not follow their steps that much.To use marionette they throw everything they can.Their despair is growing and we can expect more these kind of actions.I think a lot more in the following days.
On the other side its just unbelievable how much patience have Russia.Its amazing how much they take into account in order to do as little damage as possible.Its gonna be very interesting how will Russia respond.
Anyway,if anyone thought this was awful until now,they better prepare well,because i think something special is comming.
Fasten your seat belt!
