Putin's official car is involved in a head-on crash in Moscow

romochar said:
Could this be a case of a programmed individual going off early?

My first tgought when watching the video was a car being hacked, as has been the case in other accident-murders in the last few years. FWIW

Yeah, wasn't Michael Hastings the owner of a Mercedes? That ignited seemingly out of nowhere?

https://www.sott.net/article/265369-Murdered-American-journalist-Michael-Hastings-feared-tampering-with-his-mercedes


This was particularly shocking, and it left me with a strange sense. Specially because (this is unrelated) the next morning there was an accident on my way to work where an 84 year old lady drove the wrong way on a highway (driving east on a westbound highway) for what appears to be a mile+in rather strange circumstances. As the accident took place over a bridge in which there was no way for her to have "jumped lanes".

_http://abc7ny.com/traffic/2-hurt-in-wrong-way-head-on-crash-in-secaucus/1501422/
 
There is some news in some Russian media. As I understand it so far, it was accident with Putin's driver inolved, but not with the oficial car, or on oficial duty. Maybe the man had just "ordinary" accident?
 
I tend to think it was an accident, because if it was deliberate the driver of the other car would first have to know in which lane the BMW was driving, and lets say they were both driving at 50 miles per hour, that would mean coming together at 100 pmh.
That's not much time to think.

Plus the other driver would have to know exactly when to cross over and crash into the right car. Could even a remote controlled car do that?

It's strange why the other car came careering down the central reservation faster than the other cars though. Makes me think the driver may be having a heart attack or some other difficulty and managed to get into the central reservation to try to avoid colliding with the cars in front.
 
And it is published on SOTT:

https://www.sott.net/article/327825-Did-someone-just-send-a-message-Putins-favorite-chauffer-killed-while-driving-Presidential-limo?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

It seems like Putin's new fleet of vehicles can't come quickly enough. His resurgence of activity in Syria and the Ukraine has undoubtedly pissed off NATO and driven the CIA covert private contractors and NGO assets over the edge.

Someone is sending Putin a message. Putin should consider himself put on notice.

Perhaps it was even a hired-hit man suicide driver, but the video appears to show a car with an improbable sharp-yet-even acceleration and 'loss of control' that (speculatively) looks more like remote control than kamikaze.

That much is up for debate.
 
Ребята, я прошу вас успокоиться хотя бы об этом.
В Москве, на улице убить Путина таким способом не возможно, потому что когда едет президентский кортеж, все остальные стоят на месте в соответствии со специально разработанной схемой. Технология отработана очень давно, где, когда, как перекрыть движение. Около 20 лет назад, я часто ездил на работу навстречу президентскому кортежу (тогда президентом был Ельцин) и несколько раз попадал в такие блокады, я видел как двигается кортеж ( я мог ручкой помахать Ельцину , хотя его самого не может быть видно). Я помню, что я был зол попасть в этот отстойник, если задерживается где-то, ты останешься стоять 10-20 минут.
Далее. Вы когда-нибудь видели на каком автомобиле ездит президент России? Это мерседес-пульманн, серьезно бронированная машина. Если представить себе столкновение такого автомобиля с обычным, то выглядеть это будет примерно следующим образом: броневик останется на месте или даже продолжит движение в прежнем направлении, а вот другой автомобиль разрушится и отлетит от броневика. Это будет именно так потому что данный броневик более чем в 2 раза тяжелее и существенно крепче конструктивно.
Если кто помнит, был такой министр иностранных дел СССР Шеварднадзе, впоследствии он был президентом уже независимой Грузии. Пользовался он примерно таким же авто как и у нашего президента. Так вот у него был инцидент, когда в его автомобиль выстрелили из ручного гранатомета. Я точно уже не помню какая модель тогда была использована, но в любом случае (будь то РПГ, Шмель, Муха) это очень серьезное оружие для обычного автомобиля. Тогда показывали фотографии машины у которой был разворочен моторный отсек, но стекла были все целые, т.е. в салон машины ничего не проникло! Сам Шеварднадзе отделался шоком и немого посекло лицо мелкими осколками стекол. Конечно можно сказать, что тогда тоже убить не хотели, а хотели напугать. Иначе стреляли бы в бок машины, а не в моторный отсек, но кто знает... Это я написал для иллюстрации прочности президентского лимузина.
Некоторое время назад (примерно в 2013году) сообщали о задержании в Одессе, на Украине некоторую группу, которая якобы готовила покушение на Путина. По сообщениям они хотели заложить фугас на пути следования президентского кортежа в районе Поклонной горы. Это было довольно смешно читать потому что, чтобы нанести хоть какой-то вред президенту таким способом надо завезти, заложить и спрятать вагон взрывчатки, что конечно же не возможно.
Так что данная авария к Путину никакого отношения не имеет. Погибшего человека конечно жаль, но вообще говоря в этом месте аварии случаются довольно часто и не большое внимание к этому инциденту наших СМИ связано не с засекречиванием, а с обыденностью происшествия.


Translation
Guys, I ask you to at least calm down about it.
In Moscow, on the street to kill Putin in this way is not possible, because when riding a presidential motorcade, all the others are in place in accordance with the special scheme. The technology worked very long time ago, where, when, how to block traffic. About 20 years ago, I often went to work to meet the presidential motorcade (then President Yeltsin was) and a few times got in such closures, I've seen moves the tuple ( I could handle the wave of Yeltsin , although he himself may not be visible). I remember that I was mad to get into this sump, if delayed somewhere, you have to stand 10-20 minutes.
Next. Have you ever seen what car there goes the President of Russia? This Mercedes-Pullmann seriously armored vehicle. If we imagine a collision of such car with the usual, then it will look like the following: armored car will remain in place or even moving in the same direction, but the other car will be destroyed and will fly away from the armored car. This is so because the armored car more than 2 times heavier and considerably stronger structurally.
If anyone remembers, was a Minister of foreign Affairs of the USSR Eduard Shevardnadze, he was later President of independent Georgia. He used about the same car as our President. So he had an incident when his car was shot from a hand grenade launcher. I just do not remember what model was then used, but in any case (be it RPG, bumblebee, Fly) this is a very serious weapon for a normal car. Then showed pictures of the machine that had mangled the engine compartment, but the glass was all whole, i.e. in the interior of the car is nothing penetrated! Shevardnadze himself escaped with shock and flogged in the face of small fragments of glass. Of course you can say that then, too, did not want to kill, wanted to scare. Otherwise it would shoot to the side of the machine and not into the engine compartment, but who knows... I wrote it to illustrate the strength of the presidential limousine.
Some time ago (approximately in 2013) reported the detention in Odessa, in Ukraine a certain group, which allegedly was preparing an attempt on Putin. According to reports they wanted to lay a land mine on the route of the presidential motorcade, near Poklonnaya mountain. It was pretty funny to read because to put at least some harm to the President in this way should be brought in, to lay and hide a rail wagon with explosives, which of course is not possible.
So the accident Putin has no relation. Deceased person sorry of course, but generally speaking in this place, accidents do happen quite often and not a lot of attention to this incident our media is not connected with the classification but commonness of the incident.
 
Whether or not any foul play was involved, this could be a sign of some sort.

The best leaders are usually assassinated (Caesar, JFK, Diana, Chavez, etc), so I recommend that people acknowledge and come to terms with the likelihood of that also happening to Putin. Heck, it almost seems to be a 'rule' in this reality.
 
Niall said:
Whether or not any foul play was involved, this could be a sign of some sort.

The best leaders are usually assassinated (Caesar, JFK, Diana, Chavez, etc), so I recommend that people acknowledge and come to terms with the likelihood of that also happening to Putin. Heck, it almost seems to be a 'rule' in this reality.

That's what ive been thinking too. No matter how loyal your "inner circle" circle is; or his direct presidential security - there will be some minor "chinks" that the Empire/STS energies can exploit. Humans, however loyal I guess in the end are always fallible. Im just hoping that this doesn't happen.

That high speed crash was really freaky; even to the naked eye it looked extremely fast - and to "coordinate" a crash like that, if it was planned would be difficult - hence I think this is definitely a sign. Once again im hoping it is a good sign - where its possible there were sabotage elements within Putin's inner circle, and this came as warning from STO perhaps ? Could be completely wrong here and just speculating fwiw.
 
If Putin's favorite driver was killed, maybe it was done in hopes that the replacement driver could be co-opted against Putin, and then arrange for a Princess Diana type hit? Putin probably has a favorite for a very good reason. There is little more important than being able to trust and know the people you surround yourself with. If they can't be corrupted, they could be killed. But there has to be a driver - so there will always be someone to take his place. I hope the Divine Cosmic Mind will help keep Putin's eyes and ears open and allow him to spot if something feels "off" about the new driver or any of his associates.
 
Whether or not any foul play was involved, this could be a sign of some sort.
Пусть это для вас знак. Для меня знак совершенно в другом. Такая фамилия как Чубайс вам что-то говорит? Улюкаев, Шувалов, Медведев, Волошин? Это далеко-далеко не весь список тех, кто по известной информации приведен к власти силами из Америки и Израиля. И эти люди находятся на разных должностях в правительстве и других государственных структурах со времен Ельцина. При нем они участвовали в разворовывании , разрушении и ослаблении России в соответствии с политикой тех сил, с помощью которых они оказались у власти. Вы думаете, что они занимаются чем-то другим все это время? Вы думаете, что вся эта деятельность является каким-то секретом? Конечно нет и тем не менее они по прежнему там- в высших эшелонах власти. Почему? У меня нет ответа на этот вопрос. Вот это знак, реальный знак угрозы известных мировых сил по прежнему сохраняющих свои позиции во власти России.
По поводу "любимого" водителя Путина. Это скорее всего журналистская "утка". Слишком закрытые структуры ФСО и его часть так называемый ГОН. О таких вещах однозначно можно говорить только тогда, когда человек становится министром, губернатором и т.д.

Translation
Whether or not any foul play was involved, this could be a sign of some sort.
Let this for you sign. For me, the sign is totally different. Such a name as Chubais says anything to you? Ulyukayev, Shuvalov, Medvedev, Voloshin? It is far not the whole list of those,who on the known information, given to the government by forces of America and Israel. And these people are at different positions in the government and other state structures from the time of Yeltsin. With him they participated in the looting , destruction and weakening of Russia in accordance with the policy of those forces by which they came to power. You think they're doing something else all this time? Do you think that all of this is some secret? Of course not, and yet they are still there in the upper echelons of power. Why? I have no answer to this question. Here is a sign, a real sign of the threat of known the world powers which still preserving their positions in power in Russia.
About the "favorite" driver's Putin. This is most likely a journalistic "duck". Too closed of a structure of FSO and part of it, the so-called GON. Such things can clearly speak only when a person becomes a Minister, Governor, etc.
 
bozadi said:
I still don't know how related is the car/chauffeur to Putin's office but this seems to be another footage of the same event from a different angle:


Not sure what to think, and yes, accidents happen. However, bozadi's video here shows the driver in the median lane for a good long way (a few hundred meters) - moving 20 - 30 km. faster than the traffic flow. The driver would have had to have been been highly focused (if not crazy) - being in the middle lane (which does not appear to be a driving lane - so is this normal for that road?) and he looks to have made a very sudden shift into the opposing lane and path of the BMW resulting in this unfortunate outcome.

More on the driver would be interesting to read.
 
youlik said:
Here is a sign, a real sign of the threat of known the world powers which still preserving their positions in power in Russia.

Why all those people that you mentioned are still in power, if it is "known" that they serve their real masters? We can't know for sure, but English idiom "Softly, softly, catchee monkey" comes to mind. Meaning, that it is very possible that the reason Putin is still alive is exactly because he is very careful and prefers to keep his friends close, but enemies closer. After all, he is a master strategist, so it shouldn't be surprising that many of his moves (многоходовочки) are not clear enough until the proper time.

As for the accident, your knowledge in this area is very much appreciated, but I think you are missing a point a bit regarding the larger meaning, or the possible message people are referring to here. That regardless of what really happened, it is still an event worth noting, simply because it was reported in the media. In fact, it is very possible that if something like this would really happen, it would never reach the news at all. So the fact that it did is already a suspect and something to keep in mind.

I'll give you an example. In 2008, when Sarkozy was still a president, he was in Israel for a visit. And when he was already at the airport and about to leave, during an official celebration in his honor a border policeman (Israeli arab - Druze) shot himself in the head only 200 meters from where Sarkozy stood. Coincidence? Hardly. And Sarcozy got the message.

This news about Putin's driver and the accident appears to be something similar, even if the message was through the interpretation of the event. And who knows what else.

Something else to keep in mind, that it was already covered on SOTT (in relation to a suspicious death of one journalist, just don't remember his name now) regarding a possibility of messing remotely with computer mechanism of cars, and thus staging an accident.
 
Pierre said:
What is this small white thing in front of the car that drives on the central reservation? It's visible from 0:03 to 0:10.

It's a mouse cursor on a computer. It looks like someone may have videoed the footage from their screen (using a screen recorder) and had the mouse cursor on top of it to illustrate that the car had moved into the dividing lane.
 
Foxx said:
Pierre said:
What is this small white thing in front of the car that drives on the central reservation? It's visible from 0:03 to 0:10.

It's a mouse cursor on a computer. It looks like someone may have videoed the footage from their screen (using a screen recorder) and had the mouse cursor on top of it to illustrate that the car had moved into the dividing lane.

Yes it looks like a mouse pointer. Thanks for your answer :)
 
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