Query about Kids

[monksgirl]

Our 6 year-old-daughter eats like us except that she still takes buckwheat crackers. She eats proteins, a lot of fat, vegetables, etc. She gets treats as well (I make cookies with almond butter and cocoa powder - they're delicious). School has been warned that she is 'allergic' to gluten and dairy (otherwise they 'impose' a cereal and dairy snack on kids) and when she goes to a birthday, I bring home-made chocolate cake (made with potato starch). Once in a while, she also gets chocolate (I live in Belgium :D) but it's usually just a few squares. She often eats home-made fish and mayonaise salad on crackers or meatballs dipped in guacamole and that's for her breakfast!

As a kid, I would have laughed at my parents to propose foods like these, especially for breakfast! She finds it natural now, so I think it's all a question of habit.

Please-can I have your recipe for the almond butter and cocoa cookies? I have autistic daughter on the GFCF diet too, I'm always looking for something new as an occasional small treat, other than the walnuts with dried blueberries I give her usually. I sometimes make her a candy that just has coconut flakes, coconut oil, cocoa powder and a bit of sugar and/or the 'pink' sweetener packets.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

So take heart and be proud of not just her, but of yourselves. She's a very lucky child.

At this age (and hopefully for some time to come), parents' messages will always trump the input she gets from teachers and other authority figures, so your continuous support will be worth gold to her. And yes, you guys are lucky to have each other

Me, three! Yes, it's a sad state of affairs, but she has an early start on separating her inner world from her outer world, and that'll come in handy as she grows up! I think Gurdjieff would be proud.

You guys are sweethearts!
I was feeling sad about this state of affairs, but now I see that it is indeed something that can be seen in a positive way. Thanks guys!

Please-can I have your recipe for the almond butter and cocoa cookies?

Sure, here it is:

1 cup almond butter (including all the oil present in the jar)
1 egg
1/4 cup cocoa powder
1/4 cup chocolate chips (made from compliant dark chocolate for example)
vanilla powder to taste
1/4 cup xylitol

Preheat oven on 350° Fahrenheit (180° Celsius)

Combine all ingredients thoroughly
Make little balls (a bit bigger than walnuts) and put on a baking sheet/paper. Flatten them so they have the thickness you want.
Bake for 12-15 minutes
Let them cool completely. They are quite crumbly.

I get ideas from this website: _http://www.health-bent.com/category/treats
Sometimes you have to adapt some of the recipes.

Let me know how they turn out!

 

[RedFox]

What your daughter has learned is how to utilize that so that she can navigate a ponerized world. A very useful tool indeed and she used it beautifully. So take heart and be proud of not just her, but of yourselves. She's a very lucky child. :)

Totally agree! It warms my heart to hear how she navigated the situation based on your guidance - she acted for her own destiny. Totally awesome!

 

[Seraphina]

I've recently started the conversion of my kids over to paleo. I've been doing it for over a year and decided it was time. They were having multiple problems...IBS and obesity with the oldest, mood swings with the middle, and ADHD with the youngest. It seems the biggest hurdle I have, is other members of the family always contradicting me and ignoring the dietary plan I've put them on. The only one they seem to think needs to be on a "diet" is the oldest that is overweight. As soon as the grandparents get them for visits, they give them all the no no foods. It doesn't help that the grandfather's two best friends are conventional, pharmaceutical pushing, physicians. He keeps pushing on the kids that coconut oil is bad and causes heart disease and obesity. I've tried sending him info including Pubmed research articles that point to the exact opposite. He ignores it.

I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar issues and how they deal with it? I love the break I get when they go visit, and they love their grandparents, but I'm worried I may have to forbid any more sleep overs if they can't abide by my wishes as their mother. I feel like this would be detrimental to my children, and they would blame it on the "diet". The middle child is already starting to parrot the words of his grandfather and father, saying he doesn't need to be on a diet.

 

[Firefly]

Seraphina, I have a similar issue - my son has ADHD (although I am still not sure that he truly has it) and I've been pretty vigilant about his diet at home and made sure that his school doesn't give him anything besides the food I send with him from home. My parents are pretty good about it too, even though they feed him the same "safe" food every time he comes for a visit :). It's my in-laws who are convinced that this "new age diet thing" is a bunch of BS. He doesn't go there often, but when he does, I actually send food with him and still let time he came home from them and had a bowel movement (sorry for TMI) - it's made of unprocessed corn! I ask him if he ate corn and he says 'Yes, at grandma's". I will have to just tell them that unless they are willing to feed him only what I prepare, I will have to keep him from sleeping over at their place. I am sure it's not going to make me popular with my in-laws, but my child's health is more important to me. It's tough when your family is not on the same page. My husband wasn't a believer originally either, and I just told him "please, just roll with it for a while" He still is not 100% convinced, but can't deny that there is a difference in our son's behavior. Good luck to you!

 

[SeekinTruth]

What your daughter has learned is how to utilize that so that she can navigate a ponerized world. A very useful tool indeed and she used it beautifully. So take heart and be proud of not just her, but of yourselves. She's a very lucky child. :)

Totally agree! It warms my heart to hear how she navigated the situation based on your guidance - she acted for her own destiny. Totally awesome!

A bit late catching up on this thread, but I agree. It still annoys me how much disinformation and ignorance is being spread everywhere. Little Miss Tigersoap is one of the young vanguards in this battle. :)

 

[SeekinTruth]

Seraphina and Firefly, I don't have any experience in these issues myself, as I don't have any kids. But I agree with Firefly, you should look for ways to not have your kids eat what's detrimental. In your case Seraphina, it seems harder to draw the line and mean it because you don't have any support from other family members. Maybe someone else with more experience can give you some helpful input. Good luck. :)

 

[Maya]

My doughter is 5 now and she's paleo eater as long as my husband and I - year and a half.
At the beginning I just replaced gluten grains, bread etc. with buckwhet, rice or sweet potatos and as time went by, raised amount of fat and reduce grains to zero.
Now she eats her meat/ fish/ eggs/ bacon with really a lot of lard/ butter or olive oil and veggies (thank to god, she adores all kinds of veggies/ greens) ...
Cracklings, walnuts, coconut 'chips' and sometimes dark chocolate for deserts.
Sometimes I make her classic potato chips - baked in lard...
She loves it all in all possible combinations ! I'm really blessed with such a child !

Luckily we have our own garden, so all the veggies, fruits (only all kinds of berries), herbs and walnuts are from there. We do not buy anything.
And you know, she's really little 'smart head' - if someone offers her a candy or biscuit or something like that (even her grandmother) - she'll refuse it with an explaination 'that's not healthy - I do not eat that'
Cause when we started our paleo journey she had big problems with candida and inflammation already...so, after this helped her she understands that is better to stick with that...
The funniest thing is when she starts to explain to someone who is sick, how the fat helped her to grow big and strong (she was very thin and fragile on standard diet) and to stay healthy and OK.
You can only imagine how are people reacting on that....?!

 

[Lilou]

My doughter is 5 now and she's paleo eater as long as my husband and I - year and a half.
...- if someone offers her a candy or biscuit or something like that (even her grandmother) - she'll refuse it with an explaination 'that's not healthy - I do not eat that'

You are so lucky to have this diet information while your daughter is still young. I feel bad for my own grown children, that I didn't know all of this back then. I've passed on books and info to them, but so far, they are still carb lovers. I can't even get my own cat on a paleo diet!

 

[KTC]

My son is 3. At home he eats what we eat mostly.. except that we are living with my mother and although she reads Sott, she just doesn't get it.
I try and buy all the food for the house so that the only choices are here. But my Mum still goes to the shop and gets her bread and milk and feeds it to my son "because he likes it".
My Dad who lives elsewhere is pretty much the same... Constantly on a 'health kick', fridge full of 'diet' options so of course my son gets fed them even though I take his own snack pack and instruct for him to get nothing else. Play dates are much the same.
They think I'm on a fad, or that I'm a bit odd. Same old story really isn't it.
At least my husband is willing to try this lifestyle change.. and he's seeing and feeling the benefits (although he did give up smoking just as I was giving it a go).
I teach my son that some foods make us sick ie bread so that hopefully when he is offered sandwiches he starts to make the connection and eventually the right choice if I'm not there to guide him.
He's got a 30 year head start on me atleast

 

[Maya]

Our whole family are carb lovers (except 3 of us)...but the thing that still concerns me most is - did I commit any kind of damadge (I'm sure I did) to my doughter couse I gave birth to her as a vegetarian :(
I was reall stubborn and ignorant back then so she didn't have any animal fat or protein in her diet untill 1.5 years ...only soy, grains and other crap

 

[Nook]

My son is 3. At home he eats what we eat mostly.. except that we are living with my mother and although she reads Sott, she just doesn't get it.
I try and buy all the food for the house so that the only choices are here. But my Mum still goes to the shop and gets her bread and milk and feeds it to my son "because he likes it".
My Dad who lives elsewhere is pretty much the same... Constantly on a 'health kick', fridge full of 'diet' options so of course my son gets fed them even though I take his own snack pack and instruct for him to get nothing else. Play dates are much the same.
They think I'm on a fad, or that I'm a bit odd. Same old story really isn't it.
At least my husband is willing to try this lifestyle change.. and he's seeing and feeling the benefits (although he did give up smoking just as I was giving it a go).
I teach my son that some foods make us sick ie bread so that hopefully when he is offered sandwiches he starts to make the connection and eventually the right choice if I'm not there to guide him.
He's got a 30 year head start on me atleast

fisheye, your situation seems close to that of Seraphina and Firefly. And I have to agree with Firefly concluded of her own situation:

I will have to just tell them that unless they are willing to feed him only what I prepare, I will have to keep him from sleeping over at their place. I am sure it's not going to make me popular with my in-laws, but my child's health is more important to me. It's tough when your family is not on the same page.

I have no children, even though I've been planning/daydreaming about since I was 16 years old, how I would raise them, etc. So fwiw...

Our whole family are carb lovers (except 3 of us)...but the thing that still concerns me most is - did I commit any kind of damadge (I'm sure I did) to my doughter couse I gave birth to her as a vegetarian :(
I was reall stubborn and ignorant back then so she didn't have any animal fat or protein in her diet untill 1.5 years ...only soy, grains and other crap

The funniest thing is when she starts to explain to someone who is sick, how the fat helped her to grow big and strong (she was very thin and fragile on standard diet) and to stay healthy and OK.

There's always an 'if', 'if I had known better back then...', etc for everyone but the important part is, you changed your and her diet as soon as you found out what's really good for her, when she was 1.5 years old.
And she did grow from being 'thin and fragile' to 'big and strong' :)
I think you did everything you could at the time and that's all that matters. No reason to beat yourself up. My two cents.