Question about fat intake.

Gandalf said:
Gawan said:
Mr. Premise said:
My problem is that the off switch doesn't kick in until 4 hours later.

That's true for me too, or about 8hrs. Most often I know or knew it about 2 am in the morning when I had the last meal about 5 or 6 pm, that means I needed to stand up to take a digestive enzyme.

Same thing for me. So in order to avoid that, I have diminished my quantity of fat for my last meal.

This has happened for me as well, noticing it too late and then taking one or more digestive enzymes, and it's sometimes been followed by not needing anything for the whole next day.
 
Aiming said:
Gandalf said:
Gawan said:
Mr. Premise said:
My problem is that the off switch doesn't kick in until 4 hours later.

That's true for me too, or about 8hrs. Most often I know or knew it about 2 am in the morning when I had the last meal about 5 or 6 pm, that means I needed to stand up to take a digestive enzyme.

Same thing for me. So in order to avoid that, I have diminished my quantity of fat for my last meal.

This has happened for me as well, noticing it too late and then taking one or more digestive enzymes, and it's sometimes been followed by not needing anything for the whole next day.

It's the same for me.
I have played around with increasing and decreasing fat intake and experienced nausea, hunger and over satiation. Right now I'm at a place where I feel I sort of got it but, interestingly, I hijack myself when my husband isn't at home. I end up snacking on fat for a part of the day instead eating less meals, but fuller ones, the former leaving me hungrier and less satisfied.

Digestive enzymes didn't work well for me, even using different brands. I also experienced the 4 hours later off switch way too many times, which made me decrease my fat intake.

What I have been observing now, and going back to me hijacking myself, is how the way I eat can completely change how much I eat, how I digest food, and how I feel afterwards.
When I'm not having a meal with my husband I tend to eat faster, not notice what I eat, not savour, and not really "respect" the food. When we have a meal together, however, there is a social component to it that makes it enjoyable and pleasurable. I take twice as long to finish and can much more easily tell, usually during the course of the meal rather than later, when too much fat is too much, and when too much protein is too much. I also digest food better and feel that my gut is working properly. It feels as if it's "smiling" at me, if that makes sense (I have IBS and having an unhappy gut is something to which I'm very familiar, although it may not make much sense for those of you with well functioning ones).

So, all in all, it has been my experience and also a lot of my latest focus that eating isn't only about how much of each, but also about the very act of eating, how relaxed we are when eating, how much we are enjoying the meal, the company, the room, how much time we give ourselves to eat. To me it seems to make a big difference, and in discussing this with my husband he is noticing a similar experience.

Following this train of thought it may be useful, if not, in fact, necessary, to implement good, healthy eating practices when changing diet. This will allow us to digest better new foods such as fat, develop our awareness and sensitivity to quantity, and notice what is and isn't easily digested.

On a final thought, I can't stop but noticing in myself how the way I eat seem to reflect the way I approach life :) but that's probably another story.
 
Will the weight go up from eating too much fat ? Its really hard to find some study's with "not fasting" excessive calories keto diet, meaning i didint find one.
 
Gmork said:
Will the weight go up from eating too much fat ? Its really hard to find some study's with "not fasting" excessive calories keto diet, meaning i didint find one.
No your weight will go down if you cut out carbs. It's the carbs that make you put on the weight. I lost 40 pounds eating lots of fat and hardly any carbs. And the weight comes down gradually and never fluctuates. And I never go hungry.
 
Mr. Premise said:
Gmork said:
Will the weight go up from eating too much fat ? Its really hard to find some study's with "not fasting" excessive calories keto diet, meaning i didint find one.
No your weight will go down if you cut out carbs. It's the carbs that make you put on the weight. I lost 40 pounds eating lots of fat and hardly any carbs. And the weight comes down gradually and never fluctuates. And I never go hungry.
Same here. The weight just gradually fell to the way side. I did Paleo first then Keto. Cutting things out gradually over a period of time helped my body to adjust. I don`t crave grains, carbs, dairy,sugar. Fat is satisfying and the more healthy fat I eat the more I loose and the better I feel. I lost almost 80lbs and feel at my best( with no pain I might add). I`m no longer eating inflammatory foods.

If you go to the threads that are mentioned here, you can get a better idea of how fat works in the body.
 
Nancy2feathers said:
Mr. Premise said:
Gmork said:
Will the weight go up from eating too much fat ? Its really hard to find some study's with "not fasting" excessive calories keto diet, meaning i didint find one.
No your weight will go down if you cut out carbs. It's the carbs that make you put on the weight. I lost 40 pounds eating lots of fat and hardly any carbs. And the weight comes down gradually and never fluctuates. And I never go hungry.
Same here. The weight just gradually fell to the way side. I did Paleo first then Keto. Cutting things out gradually over a period of time helped my body to adjust. I don`t crave grains, carbs, dairy,sugar. Fat is satisfying and the more healthy fat I eat the more I loose and the better I feel. I lost almost 80lbs and feel at my best( with no pain I might add). I`m no longer eating inflammatory foods.

If you go to the threads that are mentioned here, you can get a better idea of how fat works in the body.

Yup, there's a ton of info on metabolism and why eating lots of fat doesn't make you fat in the two main threads - Life Without Bread and Ketogenic Diet. The other great thing about eating this way is if you want to lose excess weight, not only will you lose it, you'll keep it off because it's not one of those impossible diets to stay on for a long time. You won't feel like you have to "starve" yourself to keep the weight off.
 
There's an article on SOTT:

Fat trims your waistline
http://www.sott.net/article/267187-Fat-trims-your-waistline
 
I never add a lot of body fat.

However, I am not very fit. I concider myself as a "faux-maigre" (false thin ?).

In my experience of the KD (still ongoing experience) with at the moment a Very Low Carbs approach (probably less than 5g of carbs per day) the only way I add put on fat is when eating too much protein in a meal. Thoose protein being always eaten with a good amount of fat.

HIIT push ups and IF helped me to stay in a moderate protein approach (0.8g/1g of protein by kilo of body weight by day).
 
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