Question about seeing 11:09

[SeekingtheTruth]

As of late, I've been seeing the time 11:09 frequently but I've yet to discern if there holds any significance when it happens. It's not that I'm glancing at the clock not thinking about anything and then seeing it, but it always seems to happen when I'm in the state of mind of asking the Universe a question about whether or not what I am planning on doing on that day would be beneficial as it pertains to learning more about myself in my interactions with others. Perhaps, the mirror with which I am planning to interact has the potential to put me in danger?

 

[Ruth]

Maybe its telling you to read up on 9/11? What's the mirror going to tell you about that?

 

[SeekingtheTruth]

Maybe its telling you to read up on 9/11? What's the mirror going to tell you about that?

That is one possibility but at the moment I am not finding it to be a likely one as I've previously taken the time to read up on those issues concerning the involvement of the United States in the events incurred on 9/11. I am more than convinced in the validity of such a conclusion.

As a side note, I would like to say the reason why I decided to post in the first place as I feel it added to the significance of needing to understand the meaning within this synchronicity. Prior to posting I asked the Universe if it might be a "good" idea to do so and at that exact moment I proceeded to sit down at my computer and looked at the time displayed on the monitor. It was at that very moment that I saw it change from 11:10 to 11:11. And so it was with this additional synchronicity that I decided to pose the question to the members of this forum.

 

[Biomiast]

Hi SeekingtheTruth,

I am only writing because I observed a behaviour of yours which may be a little dangerous as you continue to act that way.

First of all, I did see those time synchronicities many times. What I observed from my life is that, the instances those things occur are the instances I demand guidance or knowledge. I say "demand" because it was not "asking" in the sense we use the word here. It was commanding as C's put it. I am not saying such syncronicities do not exist but it is the one of the easiest deceptions that STS can do. I saw many people that continue the way they lived because they saw those "synchronicities" all over the place. You can not rely on that.

Anyway, the reason I am writing this is: Today, in two different topics, you said you asked a question to the Universe. I may be wrong but according to my knowledge Universe has a balance between STS and STO entities, so, when you ask a question to the Universe it is a good chance that your answer is coming from STS forces.

Since we aligned ourselves with STS forces with the Fall, it is more probable than the answer coming from a STO source, especially at the beginning of the work. Laura says something about people who use the words "for my greatest good"(or something along that line, I could not find it). She says, they invite entities and those entities subjectively think their interaction with that person could be beneficial. The same may be true for your asking process. Perhaps you should rethink it and also analyze the answers properly.

And if you want a reason for that "synchronicities", my birthday is 9th of November(I am not kidding, this is true) but I do not think it is related. I hope that satisfies your curiosity. 

 

[SeekingtheTruth]

Hi SeekingtheTruth,

I am only writing because I observed a behaviour of yours which may be a little dangerous as you continue to act that way.

First of all, I did see those time synchronicities many times. What I observed from my life is that, the instances those things occur are the instances I demand guidance or knowledge. I say "demand" because it was not "asking" in the sense we use the word here. It was commanding as C's put it. I am not saying such syncronicities do not exist but it is the one of the easiest deceptions that STS can do. I saw many people that continue the way they lived because they saw those "synchronicities" all over the place. You can not rely on that.

I agree that nobody should rely only on synchronicity for direction, but I think if it is coupled with sufficient knowledge there is potential for a certain direction to be found in each case. Of course I may very well be wrong but this is my current impression when I experience synchronous events. I'm not sure if I would have even discovered this site without the help of synchronicity to effect the direction I chose after having taken the necessary time to contemplate if it had any meaning associated with it.

I also agree that the source cause of synchronicity may stem from either a STO or a STS oriented action. I definitely do try to remain aware of this possibility at all times when I ask the Universe in the way that I do. The reason I began "asking" the Universe in the first place has part of its cause in reading this part of the C's transcripts:

Q: (L) Will I be able to sleep safely tonight?
A: Should, but pray.
Q: (L) And who should I pray to?
A: Same as always.
Q: (L) Is there such a being as St. Michael?
A: In a sense.
Q: (L) Which higher being is most able to help a person in a situation of danger?
A: Universe.

I realize I've made the assumption here that asking the way I do equates to prayer but at the moment I believe that it is likely a "safe" assumption.

With regards to whether or not such questions are actually a command, I'll admit that I do not know. When I "ask" in the way that I do I make the effort to do so in the spirit of "Not for the benefit of myself but for the benefit of others" but I am also aware that I do not always do this even if I think so at the time. Thus, I also try to remain aware of the 'STO' and 'STS' or 'A' and 'B' influence(s) within me as well so that I may, so to speak, "think with the proper hammer".

Anyway, the reason I am writing this is: Today, in two different topics, you said you asked a question to the Universe. I may be wrong but according to my knowledge Universe has a balance between STS and STO entities, so, when you ask a question to the Universe it is a good chance that your answer is coming from STS forces.

True. The world is packed tight with 'A' influences but there also exists 'B' influences and synchronicity might possibly be one of them. Since synchronicity might be one of 'B''s many modes of influence, I understand that I am taking the risk of not making a choice along the direction its vector may provide. Nevertheless, I will ultimately choose a vector whether I am conscious of it or not. Thus, I am and perhaps must be willing to accept the risk involved and make a conscious effort to choose the proper vector or so I think.

Since we aligned ourselves with STS forces with the Fall, it is more probable than the answer coming from a STO source, especially at the beginning of the work. Laura says something about people who use the words "for my greatest good"(or something along that line, I could not find it). She says, they invite entities and those entities subjectively think their interaction with that person could be beneficial. The same may be true for your asking process. Perhaps you should rethink it and also analyze the answers properly.

It may very well be true that my asking process is attracting entities with either "good" or "bad" intentions. If so, I feel that these entities and their intentions represent only another one of the many almost inexhaustible sources of 'A' influences from whose grasp I am currently trying to escape. Thank you for indicating that possibility.

And if you want a reason for that "synchronicities", my birthday is 9th of November(I am not kidding, this is true) but I do not think it is related. Just one of the funny touches along the way. I hope that satisfies your curiosity. ;)

I'm a little confused as to what you are trying to "get" at when you say,

And if you want a reason for that "synchronicities", my birthday is 9th of November but I do not think it is related.

On the one hand you are telling me a reason for this synchronicity by relating 11:09 to your birthday which is 11/09 and you then proceed to contradict this initial statement on the other hand by suggesting that it isn't related. I think you may be able to see my confusion here. But then again maybe it's a "shade of gray" I'm not seeing at the moment.

[edit: I made the implication that my birthday was 11/09 as well and changed it such that it no longer gives that implication.]

 

[webglider]

Since synchronicity might be one of 'B''s many modes of influence...

Is there a source you could cite that would illuminate how you came to this conclusion, or is it a working hypothesis of your own?

 

[SeekingtheTruth]

Since synchronicity might be one of 'B''s many modes of influence...

Is there a source you could cite that would illuminate how you came to this conclusion, or is it a working hypothesis of your own?

It is a working hypothesis. The major contributing factor for its formation lies in the many synchronous events I experienced and in how, after a relatively great degree of contemplation to decipher possible meaning(s), these synchronous events gave me a direction that ultimately led me to discovering the wealth of information in this forum and its related sites.

 

[Psalehesost]

With regards to whether or not such questions are actually a command, I'll admit that I do not know. When I "ask" in the way that I do I make the effort to do so in the spirit of "Not for the benefit of myself but for the benefit of others" but I am also aware that I do not always do this even if I think so at the time.

If you expect anything, then it is a command. If a request is "open" - if you do not assign any weight to whether or not it is fulfilled, but simply make it, simply leaving the result entirely up to the one it is addressed to, then it would not be a command. OSIT.

By the way, how would the request be for the benefit of others if you ask for something specifically for yourself?

 

[Joe]

As of late, I've been seeing the time 11:09 frequently but I've yet to discern if there holds any significance when it happens. It's not that I'm glancing at the clock not thinking about anything and then seeing it, but it always seems to happen when I'm in the state of mind of asking the Universe a question about whether or not what I am planning on doing on that day would be beneficial as it pertains to learning more about myself in my interactions with others. Perhaps, the mirror with which I am planning to interact has the potential to put me in danger?

Why would you want to seek "guidance" in this way at all for something as basic as learning about yourself? Very few are at the level where we can safely ask some "higher power" to guide us in things that WE are meant to learn about ourselves. Only when you have done ALL you can to learn for yourself, or at least as result of your own initiative, could you then ask for direct inspiration to guide you further. Of course, it would all likely happen naturally. It seems to me that your motivation is to find an easy way to learning life's basic lessons. I think if you made a commitment to learn for yourself you would stop seeing so many synchronicities.

 

[Biomiast]

Hi SeekingtheTruth

And if you want a reason for that "synchronicities", my birthday is 9th of November(I am not kidding, this is true) but I do not think it is related. Just one of the funny touches along the way. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.

Yesterday was not one of my good days. Anyway, I write this first quote but I thought it is not useful to make my point. It was a little encouraging for you to follow those signs. So I edited it. At least it appears like this on my computer. Am I wrong? It remained the way you quote for one minute, so congratulations for catching the original form. I hope you do not hold me responsible for it.

As for my edited version, it lacks external considering, I admit that. I was trying to say if anyone wants to look for meanings for that signs there is definitely a meaning for it. It is the meaning your mind defines for it. It seemed to me you would not accept any answer unless it is related to the "synchronicities". You would be surprised how leading astray process can be designed by STS brilliantly and it starts with small synchronicities.

There are good examples in history or research of people. I suggest a reading about Priory of Sion and Laura's analysis about it. The point I want to make is: Yes, there are synchronicities but the history is full of people who follow them like the way you did and they did not reach anywhere. You can see them everywhere and some of them can be very amazing but that does not mean they are not coming from STS forces. I do not think my birthday is related to this but it seems to me you needed something related to 11 and 9. If you want it so much, here it is but it does not mean I believe it and it does not mean it is coming from STO.

I read your quote from the transcripts. It think it is not related to what we are discussing here. We are talking about synchronicities, knowledge coming from both sources and discernment process but your quote is related to protection from STS forces. These are different things in my opinion.

I do not know how you think with a hammer, may be you are doing a really good job. I can not reach a conclusion from your posts but I saw people who thought they can analyze the situation yet they could not. I think this analysis is related to Work. A person who can not recognize his/her programs can not make a proper analysis. Imagine you asked a question to the Universe and luckily you got an answer from STO sources. What happens when this answer comes to you? Your STS programming and your inability to see the reality as it is, prevent you to make a proper analysis and you distort the message. I want to add, without eliminating programs it is hard to get a direction from STO. As above, so below.

As for your "safe" assumption, it is up to you but if I were you, I would not proceed like that, since you do not know the implications of that assumption.

I want to ask one question. You have talked a lot about A influences and B influences. Do you know anything about Black Magnetic Center?

 

[kenlee]

I agree that nobody should rely only on synchronicity for direction, but I think if it is coupled with sufficient knowledge there is potential for a certain direction to be found in each case.

How can you rely on synchronicity when you don’t know what it is? If you don’t know what it is then how can you
"couple" it with any knowledge that you think you can rely on that has its basis in careful observations, a tested working hypothesis, and critical discernment? Ask yourself: Do you know how to know?

Of course I may very well be wrong but this is my current impression when I experience synchronous events. I'm not sure if I would have even discovered this site without the help of synchronicity to effect the direction I chose after having taken the necessary time to contemplate if it had any meaning associated with it.

Your apparent uncertainty here contradicts what you said above when your talked about synchronicities coupled with sufficient knowledge, as if the two together can possibly make a 'fact'. This you believe to be a fact and this is precisely how we fool ourselves in this world. So if we fool ourselves so easily in this world by declaring assumptions as facts how do you think we will do in the “synchroneous world” (whatever that is) with such a lack of critical discernment in this world?

I also agree that the source cause of synchronicity may stem from either a STO or a STS oriented action.

Assumptions! See above. You are assuming you understand what STO and STS is. Your 'agreement' is based on an assumption that you believe to be a fact, the assumption being that you know the difference between STO and STS. To paraphrase Castaneda’s Don Juan, he said something about how words make us feel enlightened but fail us miserably at time of action.

I definitely do try to remain aware of this possibility at all times when I ask the Universe in the way that I do.

Another 'definite' assumption. How do you know what true 'asking' is? I don’t know what it is. Do you ‘know thyself’ well enough to make such a definite statement about what it is or what it means to ask the universe without fooling yourself?

The reason I began "asking" the Universe in the first place has part of its cause in reading this part of the C's transcripts:

“The reason I began "asking" “…Another assumed fact that has it's "cause."

 

[Breton]

I was following this discussion and it came to mind something that I remember Laura mentioned in the wave series, related to this:

Quote by Laura in the Wave

There is a curious thing that I would like to note here in passing: It seems that the STS mode of manipulation includes "synchronous events" and or "signs and wonders" BEFORE a choice is made to do something, which, in fact, "weight" the choice. STO seems to refrain altogether from any kind of overt contact or demonstration, leaving the will entirely free. But then, there is always the little "confirmations" AFTER the choice has been made and the action initiated.

Taken From http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13a.htm

It sounds reasonable. I was thinking I might try to watch for this pattern too. Of course as mentioned, no synchronicities replace knowledge and its application. Nice to think STO forces maygive some confirmations later.

FWIW,
Breton

 

[PepperFritz]

Excellent, Breton. I have been looking for that excerpt, but couldn't find it. Thank you.

SeekingtheTruth: Take note.

 

[Inti]

There is a curious thing that I would like to note here in passing: It seems that the STS mode of manipulation includes "synchronous events" and or "signs and wonders" BEFORE a choice is made to do something, which, in fact, "weight" the choice. STO seems to refrain altogether from any kind of overt contact or demonstration, leaving the will entirely free. But then, there is always the little "confirmations" AFTER the choice has been made and the action initiated.
Taken From http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13a.htm

Thank you very much for putting this up Breton and thanks to Laura who initially wrote it. It makes sense to me, and has given me second insight to a recent situation in my life where there were a lot of synchronicities and almost a magnetic pull to someone. At the time, the whole thing seemed completely irrational to me and I just had a bad feeling about it. However, I doubted myself precisely because of these synchronicities etc, thinking perhaps the universe had something to tell me. As it turned out, I chose to listen to my feelings and extract myself till I knew better. Now, having read this little excerpt on synchronicities I have another insight into the situation and reflecting again with the extra learning I've gained through this site since, I strongly suspect STS because I see now that there was "feeding" going with that acquaintance - as in both of us feeding to a certain extent, although I doubt any of it was particularly conscious at the time. Yuck! So subtle is the manipulation sometimes...it makes me realise that I really do have to work towards razor-sharpness!