Question and feedback - unusual experience

[Menna]

I was in the car with my significant other she was in the passenger seat and I was driving. We were laughing, talking, listening to music the usual. I was looking straight ahead at the road then turned my head to the right to look at her. As soon as my head turned to her I saw a black shadow of her body. I couldn’t make out her face or her clothes it was like she was wearing an all black full body suit covering everything. Then simultaneously I saw a flash of light and felt a force pushed/hit against something inside my chest/stomach area. It was so forceful and powerful that it forced me to look away. I couldn’t keep looking at her. My head went right back to looking at the road. She didn’t say anything; I didn’t say anything we just kept on talking and interacting as normal. Has anyone had an experience like this? I haven’t told anyone else except my mom as many other people would look at me like I had 9 heads. I feel this is the best place to talk about this.

 

[Gonzo]

Hi Menna,

Did you get a chance to ask her if she noticed anything different during the ride? You might want to wait to hear her answer before sharing the experience, just to avoid planting a subconscious thought.

Incidentally, why didn't you mention it shortly after it happened? I imagine you were confused and perhaps shocked initially, but you seem to indicate you didn't discuss it with her and I'm curious.

It certainly is strange.

How's your diet? Have you eliminated dairy, gluten, most grains, etc. from your diet?

Have you been getting enough sleep lately?

Have you been under more (or different) stress, or has there been any significant changes in your life or relationships?

Gonzo

 

[Renaissance]

Sounds a little concerning. Consider that this might not have any connection to any extraordinary phenomenon and might instead be something more physical that may have been triggered by turning your head. Have you had any headaches, stiffness or anything like that? Maybe it would be a good idea to have a checkup with your doctor.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

I was in the car with my significant other she was in the passenger seat and I was driving. We were laughing, talking, listening to music the usual. I was looking straight ahead at the road then turned my head to the right to look at her. As soon as my head turned to her I saw a black shadow of her body. I couldn’t make out her face or her clothes it was like she was wearing an all black full body suit covering everything. Then simultaneously I saw a flash of light and felt a force pushed/hit against something inside my chest/stomach area. It was so forceful and powerful that it forced me to look away. I couldn’t keep looking at her. My head went right back to looking at the road. She didn’t say anything; I didn’t say anything we just kept on talking and interacting as normal. Has anyone had an experience like this? I haven’t told anyone else except my mom as many other people would look at me like I had 9 heads. I feel this is the best place to talk about this.

Perhaps when you saw the "black shadow" it shocked you so much, that was the force you felt in your chest/stomach. I've felt a few jolts like that myself.

Probably not related but my Reiki master told me once that she was meditating with some people, sitting in a circle, and she happened to look up at one of the other women, somebody she'd known for a while. She said she was startled as for an instant, the woman she was looking at had "shape shifted" for a few seconds and looked kinda alien. Sort of like one of those movies where aliens take on human form and only certain people can "see" their true self underneath.

Not saying your SO is an alien tho. :D

 

[Menna]

We have been together for a year now. This happened LAST November. I didn't mention anything to her bc i had only known her for 2 months. I didn't feel comfortable discussing this with her then bc it was so early on in our relationship everything was going well so far so I didn't want to bring it up as I wanted her to like me I didn't want to weird her out.

The force didn't come from inside my body I felt it hit my body from the side that was closest to her and this force stopped when it hit into something inside my stomach chest.

On another note a few months after that she started crying and expressing a sad emotion about something that happened in her life in another relationship as soon as she changed emotions from quite to sad/emotional I felt like I tookon the emotion and i felt like she through a ball of emotion inside my chest. Not the same feeling as in the car but similar as there was a transfer of something from her to me

 

[Mrs. Peel]

On another note a few months after that she started crying and expressing a sad emotion about something that happened in her life in another relationship as soon as she changed emotions from quite to sad/emotional I felt like I tookon the emotion and i felt like she through a ball of emotion inside my chest. Not the same feeling as in the car but similar as there was a transfer of something from her to me

Well, if she IS transferring something, perhaps you could explore some "psychic hygiene" and try to figure out where the "holes" in your awareness are where these "entities" can get in...

 

[Menna]

Mrs Peel thanks for the advice I didnt think of it that way. I will look into that.

 

[Gonzo]

It's a little difficult to know what might be going on when many of the possibilities one might consider fall outside of our knowledge and ordinary awareness. I try to consider first physical and psychological reasons before moving into etheric and hyperdimensional possibilities, hence my initial questions on diet, sleep, stress, etc.

This is not to discount paranormal or unconventional possibilities. Rather, it is to initially focus attention in areas where we can draw from a body of knowledge and avoid opinions and beliefs. Once the tangible explanations are exhausted, then I start to consider other possibilities.

I could be wrong in this approach, but I find immediately jumping to paranormal puts one in a helpless situation of not being able to implement remedies with any degree of certainty.

Since we know diet and insufficient or irregular sleep can provoke hallucinations and strange sensations, it is important to rule them out.

Psychology, which can have dietary and sleep-related influences, is a huge area to examine. Jung had much to say about symbology as well as the concept of the shadow, to which we relegate our undesirable characteristics. Perhaps, given enough energy and the right conditions, such shadows could manifest within our perceptions.

There are ample anecdotal reports of shadowy figures in paranormal records. Even one of my daughters used to regularly see a shadow man leaning over her sister while she slept. So, there might be a lot of reading you might be interested in, relating to shadowy apparitions, if you want to invest the time.

You mention feeling something issue from the shadow and enter into you. You might find insight from considering everything is a mirror of yourself and look at the shadow as an aspect of yourself, reflected through your partner, but connected to you (hence the physical sensation: at the moment of acknowledgment, the energy the shadow used to manifest returned to you).

While I can easily get distracted by things around me, I try to remind myself to look at everything as a form of reflection and try to consider what it says about me. What thoughts and sensations was I having when the event took place? How did the event make me feel? Is there a truth about myself that I can learn from the event?

I don't know if any of this is helpful, but I offer these thoughts for what they're worth.

Gonzo

 

[Aiming]

I was in the car with my significant other she was in the passenger seat and I was driving. We were laughing, talking, listening to music the usual. I was looking straight ahead at the road then turned my head to the right to look at her. As soon as my head turned to her I saw a black shadow of her body. I couldn’t make out her face or her clothes it was like she was wearing an all black full body suit covering everything. Then simultaneously I saw a flash of light and felt a force pushed/hit against something inside my chest/stomach area. It was so forceful and powerful that it forced me to look away. I couldn’t keep looking at her. My head went right back to looking at the road. She didn’t say anything; I didn’t say anything we just kept on talking and interacting as normal. Has anyone had an experience like this?

When reading this I was reminded of an experience of mine, fwiw. At that time I was in a relationship with a pathological person and had been shoving all kinds of red flags under the rug. I was in a state of 'half-sleep' as he was getting ready to leave for work. Then I suddenly woke up to find him standing at the head of the bed looking at me (shortly before bending over to kiss me goodbye) and I was shocked to see him as a black shadow, I could not make out his face, and what emanated from him was the 'energy' of a complete stranger, who elicited a feeling of deep repulsion.

 

[EGVG]

I was in the car with my significant other she was in the passenger seat and I was driving. We were laughing, talking, listening to music the usual. I was looking straight ahead at the road then turned my head to the right to look at her. As soon as my head turned to her I saw a black shadow of her body. I couldn’t make out her face or her clothes it was like she was wearing an all black full body suit covering everything. Then simultaneously I saw a flash of light and felt a force pushed/hit against something inside my chest/stomach area. It was so forceful and powerful that it forced me to look away. I couldn’t keep looking at her. My head went right back to looking at the road. She didn’t say anything; I didn’t say anything we just kept on talking and interacting as normal. Has anyone had an experience like this? I haven’t told anyone else except my mom as many other people would look at me like I had 9 heads. I feel this is the best place to talk about this.

Perhaps when you saw the "black shadow" it shocked you so much, that was the force you felt in your chest/stomach. I've felt a few jolts like that myself.

Probably not related but my Reiki master told me once that she was meditating with some people, sitting in a circle, and she happened to look up at one of the other women, somebody she'd known for a while. She said she was startled as for an instant, the woman she was looking at had "shape shifted" for a few seconds and looked kinda alien. Sort of like one of those movies where aliens take on human form and only certain people can "see" their true self underneath.

Not saying your SO is an alien tho. :D

Once I saw a baby in a hospital shape shift into a demon or something, I think when we are worried or stress sometimes our minds can play some games with us. What I get from what you've said Menna is that maybe you where so preoccupied to like her that you kinda missed that she had this dark emotional burden on her. Taking into consideration that there's multiple explanations for issues like this, I like to think of this kind of episodes as messages that our minds lay out for us to decipher or to give them some usefull meaning.

 

[ocean59]

Not sure if this is relevant, but I have found that if you stare at someone's face long enough while relaxing the gaze, it will inevitably begin to morph into a variety of distortions.

When I was a young teen, I remember trying a few telepathy experiments with friends. One of the techniques described something called 'visual telepathy.' The premise was, that if you sit directly across from someone and both maintain a loose relaxed gaze, within a few minutes you will start to see variations forming in the image.

Now one explanation of this is that the optic nerve is misfiring due to receiving the same input (or some other such ordinary explanation). However, the method posited that the visual distortions would be the same for both people - and to discuss what was being seen out loud.

Now, I never found that latter explanation to be entirely true. But from my memory there was no question about the reality of the effect itself.

As for such a thing happening spontaneously, this is quite a bit more strange I think. But perhaps, related?

 

[Menna]

Enaid. This is what i am afriad of. Givin the signs over the past 10months have not been the best

 

[anart]

Enaid. This is what i am afriad of. Givin the signs over the past 10months have not been the best

Well, if that's the case, it's not a complete loss. It's a great lesson to you about ignoring signs in order to get something you wanted because it 'felt good' at the time. It might be worth reviewing your own posts on the forum about this woman and this relationship and how sure you were about it all, with what seems to be dawning on you now. We've all been there, and wishful thinking will getcha every time - and, unfortunately, most of us have to learn the hard way before we learn at all. fwiw.

 

[Aiming]

Enaid. This is what i am afriad of. Givin the signs over the past 10months have not been the best

Well, if that's the case, it's not a complete loss. It's a great lesson to you about ignoring signs in order to get something you wanted because it 'felt good' at the time. It might be worth reviewing your own posts on the forum about this woman and this relationship and how sure you were about it all, with what seems to be dawning on you now. We've all been there, and wishful thinking will getcha every time - and, unfortunately, most of us have to learn the hard way before we learn at all. fwiw.

Anart is spot-on.

Menna, why be afraid? Eventually it comes down to seeing it for what it is, even if it turns out to be painful. I agree with anart on reviewing all your posts concerning the person and recapitulating on everything you've been experiencing with her, so you can become clear about what's been going on behind the scenes. If there's an off-feeling to it already and there have been signs, it might be best to explore it.

 

[Menna]

I am going to lead with the excuse why I dont leave and then the latest reason why I am questioning things...

First - Her mom is sick in recovery (Cancer)

Second - She lied to me about smoking. When I first met her she told me a month into dating her that she smoked it was a bad habbit and she was going to quit I told her I didnt like it and it bothered me. We went through this during the first 8 months of our relationship and she said she wanted to quit for herself bc she did it for someone else before and she didnt want to hide it from me and I didnt want to push. SO finnaly she quit in June. The way I found out was I was in her car. Went to put my keys, wallet in her center console. Lifted it up and she pushed my hand down and said no lift the top part. (I thought that was strange) so when I went to get them out I lifted it all the way she pushed my hand down again but I saw the pack of cigs in there. I smelt it on her a few weeks ago but didnt say anything and now the evidence is clear she hid it from me and lied. I told her its not so much about the smoking but that you hid it from me lied and pushed my hand down twice. Told her that trust took a big hit in our relationship that I have been nothing but honest, supportive and open and respectfull in this relationship and dont deserve this treatment. With all the little stuff and now the lieing I am starting to see the writting on the wall. Sorry to put my person petty stuff on here but it is on my mind. Now to the reason why I am hesitant to break up right now.

She needs the support, I care about her deeply and her mom is ill and she has alot of her plate (this was her excuse for hiding it saying she was streched too thin). I cant hurt her right now with the family situation that she is in. IF it means I am not the happiest I should be for a few months then so be it I guess. I know I am not doing whats best for myself but I just don't kn.ow. I mean I know but at the same time I don't. I guess I have to be a man and make a decission and honor it