Questions about Illuminati, 4D STS

[candasiri]

Those questions are answered in the older sessions, specially the ones between 1994-1998, you can use this page to search for keywords in the transcripts:

I've looked at those and could not find answers. Is the consortium the Illuminati? Do the Illuminati date back to the last fall of Atlantis?

 

[irjO]

I've looked at those and could not find answers. Is the consortium the Illuminati? Do the Illuminati date back to the last fall of Atlantis?

Quoting example:s

Q: (L) You have often stated that the Bible is corrupted, I would like to know who, exactly, corrupted the Bible and when and how they did this?

A: Illuminati brotherhood for a thousand earth years

11 January 1995

Q: (Barry) Is he the antichrist?

A: No. The "antichrist" is not an individual, but consortium.

Q: (Barry) Who is the Consortium?

A: Term refers to idea of large body of individuals.

Q: (L) Who specifically? (Frank) Human beings?

A: Yes and others.

Q: (Barry) Are these beings who have lived longer than most people live in one lifetime?

A: Confused thought patterns.

Q: (Barry) Are these people who have reincarnated for lifetime after lifetime and have kept the same memory to continue the same plan?

A: Only a select few.

So to your question, the consortium is composed by different groups, Illuminati, government officials etc. Who acts as secret government and the STS 4D at the top, if you would include them in the list. The Mossad is just an agency created, (could be the main one), the same way the CIA and other intelligence agencies from this consortium to manipulate events.

 

[candasiri]

So to your question, the consortium is composed by different groups, Illuminati, government officials etc. Who acts as secret government and the STS 4D at the top, if you would include them in the list. The Mossad is just an agency created, (could be the main one), the same way the CIA and other intelligence agencies from this consortium to manipulate events.

My understanding of the consortium is that is composed of the "elites" including gov't officials, billionaires, the Illuminati, Mossad but I'm not sure that specific question of which groups compose the Consortium has ever been asked. Perhaps it's too nit-picky. I guess I want more specifics about the Illuminati as they have been around for a while, there's plenty of misinformation, and they have shaped events such as the writing of the Bible, and responsible for the Nazis as mentioned in the transcripts. There are also beautiful things such as the Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland which is attributed to be a Rosicrucian chapel: https://www.rosslynchapel.com/about/

It seems to me that the Illuminati have secret information re: mathematics which has filtered through the Masons (which is a low-level branch according to the transcripts) and beautiful things have been made. So it makes me wonder why the Illuminati produce beautiful things if their nature is so STS. Or is it divided?

From 13 May 2023

Q: (L) So we have created a country house in our imaginal realm. Is the Rosicrucian Cathedral a useful ethereal construct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is our country house a useful ethereal construct?

A: Yes. Though you have qualified it differently due to your knowledge.

From 20 October 2005:

Q: (Galahad) In reading through the transcripts in the 9/11 book, I was confused about the genetic tweak that was made 130,000 years ago. Was that a tweak that was done to all the Semites, so it wasn’t only the Jews?

A: Question is what is a Semite?

Q: (Galahad) You make a remark that this thing with Hitler goes off planet. So was this something that was going on on Kantek before it exploded?

A: Yes.

Q: (Galahad) Did the Semites have a significant role in the collapse of Atlantis?

A: Indeed!

Q: (Galahad) So, when we’re looking at a replay, we’re REALLY looking at a replay!

A: Yup.

Q: (Discussion of who are the Semites) (Galahad) So the real Semites are the Aryans?

A: You got it!

Q: (L) So that means that the rank and file of Jews that have carried the tradition, the Arabic types, just took on the tradition and carried it... They were just intermediaries. They stole the significator of the original Semites and applied it to themselves. (Perceval) Semites is like Middle Eastern, isn’t it?

A: Is it? Was it?

Q: (Galahad) Then the genetic tweak, was it made in the Aryan Semites or was it made in the Jews that we know as Jews today?

A: Aryan. Reason for destruction of Jews of the “Abrahamic” line.

I'm not sure how to ask this, but the Aryans who became the Jews after the fall of Atlantis, what is their role, if any, in the Illuminati?
I ask this because the Jewish flag has a star of David which is basically MerKaBah, which is I believe is a representation of a transdensity conduit/portal. Also the kabbala and their script makes me think that higher level knowlege was in their history, though I would think most Jews these days are completely ignorant of this. What I find interesting are the flag's blue and white color is similar to Scotland (connected to the Kantakkians) and Greece (also connected to the Kantekkians).

Has there been long-term 4D STS program to make the Jews into the role of victim/scapegoat/aggressor?

What was the genetic tweak that was done to Semites/Aryans on Kantek 130,000 years ago?

Q: (Galahad) You make a remark that this thing with Hitler goes off planet. So was this something that was going on on Kantek before it exploded?

A: Yes.

What was going on in Kantek before it expoded? From what I understand of the transcripts, there was a build up of negative energy but I don't know if what the political/societal situation was.

 

[irjO]

My understanding of the consortium is that is composed of the "elites" including gov't officials, billionaires, the Illuminati, Mossad but I'm not sure that specific question of which groups compose the Consortium has ever been asked. Perhaps it's too nit-picky. I guess I want more specifics about the Illuminati as they have been around for a while, there's plenty of misinformation, and they have shaped events such as the writing of the Bible, and responsible for the Nazis as mentioned in the transcripts.

That seems a pretty accurate way to put it.

It seems to me that the Illuminati have secret information re: mathematics which has filtered through the Masons (which is a low-level branch according to the transcripts) and beautiful things have been made. So it makes me wonder why the Illuminati produce beautiful things if their nature is so STS.

Now this could be a good question. I would say that symbolism used by elites already reflects universal language which by nature is already beautiful.
On a side note, picture a millionaire who is a psychopath, but lives in a very beautiful stunning mansion, this wouldn’t apply to all cases since there can be elite members who are souled, but just as general reference that being STS doesn’t necessarily translate on not having architectural taste or something similar.

Has there been long-term 4D STS program to make the Jews into the role of victim/scapegoat/aggressor?

It seems yes. By the way you propose the question, that should be clear by now times, and how Jews and this “anti semite” campaign in general is being used to portrait situations that can allow EEUU to act in Israel favor globally.

What was going on in Kantek before it expoded? From what I understand of the transcripts, there was a build up of negative energy but I don't know if what the political/societal situation was.

That’s what they have mentioned so far about what was going on in kantek before they destroyed their planet, I would look to our planet social-political situation as reference, but picture it 10 times worse.

 

[Wandering Star]

It's almost impossible to answer your questions because they all involve your interpretation of what you've read.

I'm not sure how to ask this, but the Aryans who became the Jews after the fall of Atlantis, what is their role, if any, in the Illuminati?

Several interpretations in a row.

Has there been long-term 4D STS program to make the Jews into the role of victim/scapegoat/aggressor?

Again.

What was the genetic tweak that was done to Semites/Aryans on Kantek 130,000 years ago?

Again and so on throughout the thread.

Calm, time, reading.

This may not help, but it's my attempt to do so.

 

[Alejo]

So, I was wondering if there are other thinking patterns that are ingrained in us that are courtesy of 4D STS. One that comes to mind is self-hatred/self-rejection. In one of the recent sessions, the Cs talked about the switch to agriculture also caused a feeling of lack of abundance and perhaps less egalitarianism. I'll find the transcript when I'm less hungry.

Why not? The thing is that it remains broad and general because it depends on the result of any given thinking pattern, if it serves their purposes then yes probably. The trouble with that is that to determine the purposes for each becomes an impossible task. If self hatred in a given individual serves an agenda, specific or general, then they'd exacerbate it, I would think.

Sometimes those may not be a result of direct intervention per se, but merely the result of living in an STS reality and all that it entails, there are natural consequences and feelings that may be borne out of simply living in an STS world. Inadequacies and so on. Like living in a very sunny region of the planet, you're bound to get a tan and sun burns. The thing is that for the 4D STS overlords, the negativity is a source of nourishment, so it is convenient for them to maintain it, Not just because of what a specific individual feels, but because of how we behave and how self centered we become when we identify with these feelings and emotions and how hurtful we can be, perpetuating those feelings in time for ourselves and others.

 

[Alejo]

I actually think that it might be a genetic taste. From what my understanding what the Cs have said, psychopathy is a genetic trait and all the perverted sexuality that comes with it. I was just wondering if pedophilia has some specific genetic coding since it's practiced within the Illuminati, within the cirlces of the "elite" and in the general population for those who have that predilection.

Well, the thing with that question is that you'd have to incorporate the soul that marries the genes, at which point then perhaps yes there's a genetic connection that one could create, but what I meant was that it's their nature that determines their genes and not the other way around. That's what I was trying to convey.

Thinking about it in those terms, it would be a very specific soul that would chose to incarnate as an illuminati, and carry on with those practices, very STS oriented, more than most of humanity I'd think.

I think reducing it to simply a taste, like how some people enjoy cilantro and some others can't stand it, is very different because the implications are far grander than simply a distaste. Even comparing it against personal tastes in the opposite sex or a predisposition to find a type of individual physically attractive, isn't just IMO

Most people in the world, have a genetic predisposition for attraction that is geared towards reproduction, perpetuating life and so on. A criminal mind, has similar feelings but they're associated with darkness, possession, cruelty, torture, they're very much opposite to the life furthering core that most other attraction has, the purpose is to end life.

So, in summary, there is probably a genetic marker that may be identifiable, but I do not think it's the source of the behavior, merely the reflection of the predisposition for it brought on by their nature.