[quote author=nofretete1969]Can it is possible, and/or be it that Psychopathen are exactly the Echesenwesen, which has nothing property with our mankind in the sense?[/quote]Well, that's actually not the idea/concept of psychopaths according to the Cs, according to the forum, according to all the material and available knowledge. To be "exactly" applies rather to those entities known as "robot humans" and "men in black" more or less, again, according to the material and knowledge available to us.
+ Dies ist eigentlich nicht das (derzeitige) Verständnis über die Natur des Psychopathen unter Zuhilfenahme des verfügbaren Wissens, insbesondere den Hinweisen der Cassiopaeaner. 'Dasselbe' trifft somit eher für die Wesen oder Art von "Mensch" zu, die wir dem Material zufolge als Men in Black und "Robotermenschen" bezeichnen.
See: [quote author=020713]
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Q: Mouravieff says that there are two kinds of humans - he calls the "pre-Adamic" and "Adamic," [discussed in book III]. The idea is that pre-Adamic
human types basically have no "soul" nor any possibility of growing one. This is a pretty shocking idea, but there have been recent scholarly
discussions of this matter based on what seems to be clinical evidence that, indeed, there are human beings who are just "mechanical" and have no
"inner" or "higher self" at all. [See: "Division of Consciousness"] Gurdjieff talked about this and so did Castaneda. Are these ideas Mouravieff
presents about the two basic TYPES of humans, as far as they go, accurate?
A: Indeed, though again, there is a "Biblical Gloss."
Q: Mouravieff says that the "pre-Adamic" humans do not have the higher centers, nor the possibility of developing them in this cycle - which we
assume to be the Grand Cycle you have previously described, the length of which is around 300,000 years. Is this an accurate representation of
"pre-Adamic" beings?
A: Yes, they are "organic" portals between levels of density.
Q: Based on what Mouravieff has said, it seems to be so that any efforts to try to raise the consciousness of such individuals is doomed to fail.
A: Pretty much. Most of them are very efficient machines. The ones that you have identified as psychopaths are "failures." The best ones cannot
be discerned except by long and careful observation.
Q: (V) Have I, or anyone in this room, ever encountered any, and if so, can you give us an example for reference?
A: If you consider that the population is equally distributed, then you will understand that in an ordinary "souled" person's life, that person will
encounter half as many organic portals as souled individuals. BUT, when someone is in the process of "growing" and strengthening the soul, the
Control System will seek to insert even more "units" into that person's life. Now, think of all the people you have ever met and particularly those
with whom you have been, or are, intimate. Which half of this number would YOU designate as being organic portals? Hard to tell, eh?
Q: (BT) Is this the original meaning of the "pollution of the bloodline" that the Bible talks about?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) This certainly gives a whole new meaning to all the experiences we have had with people like "Frank" and Vincent Bridges and Terri Burns, Olga
and the rest of the gang! What this means is that the work of discerning these organic portals from souled human beings is CRUCIAL to the so-called
ascension process. Without the basic understanding of transformation of, and conservation of energies, there is no possibility of fusing a magnetic
center. No wonder the Bridges gang and the COINTELPRO types went bananas while I was publishing the Adventures Series! And sheesh! They will
go bonkers with this organic portal stuff! (V) In thinking back over my life, it seems to me that my father is certainly one of these organic portals.
A: Now, do not start labeling without due consideration. Remember that very often the individual who displays contradictory behavior may be a
souled being in struggle.
Q: (L) I would say that the chief thing they are saying is that the really good ones - you could never tell except by long observation. The one key we
discovered from studying psychopaths was that their actions do not match their words. But what if that is a symptom of just being weak and having no
will? (A) How can I know if I have a soul?
A: Do you ever hurt for another?
Q: (V) I think they are talking about empathy. These soulless humans simply don't care what happens to another person. If another person is in
pain or misery, they don't know how to care.
A: The only pain they experience is "withdrawal" of "food" or comfort, or what they want. They are also masters of twisting perception of others so
as to seem to be empathetic. But, in general, such actions are simply to retain control.
Q: (A) What does having a soul or not having a soul have to do with bloodline?
A: Genetics marry with soul if present.
Q: Do "organic portals" go to fifth density when they die?
A: Only temporarily until the "second death."
Q: (V) What is the "origin" of these organic portal human types? In the scheme of creation, where did they come from?
A: They were originally part of the bridge between 2nd density and 3rd density. Review transcripts on the subject of short wave cycles and long wave
cycles.
Q: (A) Now, I was reading in the transcripts that sleep is necessary for human beings because it was a period of rest and recharging. You also said
that the SOUL rests while the body is sleeping. So, the question is: what source of energy is tapped to recharge both the body and the soul?
A: The question needs to be separated. What happens to a souled individual is different from an organic portal unit.
Q: (L) I guess that means that the life force energy that is embodied in Organic Portals is something like the soul pool that is theorized to exist for
flora and fauna. This would, of course, explain the striking and inexplicable similarity of psychopaths, that is so well defined that they only differ from
one another in the way that different species of trees are different in the overall class of Tree-ness. So, if they don't have souls, where does the
energy come from that recharges Organic Portals?
A: The pool you have described.
Q: Does the recharging of the souled being come from a similar pool, only maybe the "human" pool?
A: No - it recharges from the so-called sexual center which is a higher center of creative energy. During sleep, the emotional center, not being
blocked by the lower intellectual cener and the moving center, transduces the energy from the sexual center. It is also the time during which the
higher emotional and intellectual centers can rest from the "drain" of the lower centers' interaction with those pesky organic portals so much loved
by the lower centers. This respite alone is sufficient to make a difference. But, more than that, the energy of the sexual center is also more
available to the other higher centers.
Q: (L) Well, the next logical question was: where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love." The "outbreath" of "God" in the relief of
constriction. Pulsation. Unstable Gravity Waves.
Q: Do the "centers" as described by Mouravieff relate at all to the idea of "chakras?"
A: Quite closely. In an individual of the organic variety, the so-called higher chakras are "produced in effect" by stealing that energy from souled
beings. This is what gives them the ability to emulate souled beings. The souled being is, in effect, perceiving a mirror of their own soul when they
ascribe "soul qualities" to such beings.
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and: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=457.0 (interesting thread)
and much more...
You could also take a look at the idea of the first appearance of the psychopath in history triggered by the mixing of genes between Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal (described in The Wave series, book four).
+ Du könntest dir auch die Idee über die Entstehung des Psychopathen im geschichtlichen Rahmen ansehen, die mit der Mischung der Gene des Cromagnonmenschen und des Neandertalmenschen zu tun hat. (siehe The Wave, Buch IV).
And, do not not worry about your English. This can be learnt. Working through all or most of the material plus reading forum threads and networking here gives you certainly a good opportunity for improving it.
+ Und keine Bange wegen deinem Englisch. All das kann man erlernen. Wenn du das gesamte Material oder große Teile davon durchkämmst und studierst sowie Forenbeiträge hier liest und "netzwerkest", wird dir gewiss eine Gelegenheit, Englisch zu lernen oder dein Englisch zu verbessern, offenbar.