Radical feminist witches and their hypothesis of STS energy dynamics

Psalehesost said:
The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.
This pretty much sums up my feelings.
 
This too, is a topic of interest and confusion for me, at least on an emotional real life level and what it is to be a 'man', having learned not to white knight as much as I grow up into my mid 20's. I recently went through a period of investigating the whole "red pill' or MGTOW (men going their own way) movement, and it's essentially a blanket forum for men trying to discover what being a man in this day and age really is. There was some good information in there that has helped but there is DEFINITELY some blatant pathological stuff, especially when certain individuals take it to an extreme and post blogs about how to imitate the dark triad personality traits! Yikes, I mean, we have enough of that in the world as it is! It reminded me of how pathological individuals and ideas infiltrate a group without people being aware of it, the first criterion of ponerogenesis as it were.

Here is a link to the forum and material if anyone is interested.

_http://www.mgtow.com/forums/

However, in the end, I reconciled everything and came to a similar conclusion as Psalehesost mentioned.

Psalehesost said:
The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.

I also at the time had seen Karen Straughan's videos as Atreides has posted, and felt that she was a very reasonable and compassionate person who explained herself well. I would recommend watching some of her stuff if one gets a bit too confused and needs a voice of reason to steady their mind for a moment!

For what it's worth, in my own personal experiences, I have encountered some malicious women who are as every bit as pathological as a man could be, physically attacking me and so forth. These things are not uncommon I suspect in the world, in-fact I think there is cultural conditioning in place that prevents many, many men and women, from seeing this reality. However, at the end of the day, it really is all about Psychopathy and how that affects humanity at large. Until this critical issue and idea is understood by these types of groups, then it will remain a feeding frenzy of blame and victimhood and all sorts of buffers that prevents this fundamental key from opening up their eyes.
 
The thread on the forum entitled "Caricature of Love" goes a long way toward explaining the engineered "war between the sexes."
 
The 'radical feminist" quoted is just repackaging the Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, et al messsage from the 70's.; neither of these women were lesbians, but it was all the rage for radical lesbians back in that time to quote similar thoughts; it fed the separatist lesbian movement. It was the backlash days of real "bra burning", and those are the days in which I came of age and remember well. Today, I see young women "strapping" their breasts so as to disguise the fact that they have them at all. What in the world, or who, is giving this message ? Rhetorical question , only.

I have read almost verbatim hate of females from "The Author" of the Matrix V material, associated with Val Valerian and Trufax.org. Only he goes a little further and actually presumes that all females are reptilians and we are planning on taking over the world...the foul and fecal language he uses is dripping with hatred and fear....and he is "gay"; thank God he's not sleeping with any women and hurting them with that stuff.....ooh my.

it's all hate , and an attempt to divide.

United we stand, divided we have fallen.

From the grey haired faction; balance..kindness, patience, understanding .. and knowledge protects.


B, :cool2:
 
B588 said:
I have read almost verbatim hate of females from "The Author" of the Matrix V material, associated with Val Valerian and Trufax.org. Only he goes a little further and actually presumes that all females are reptilians and we are planning on taking over the world...the foul and fecal language he uses is dripping with hatred and fear....and he is "gay"; thank God he's not sleeping with any women and hurting them with that stuff.....ooh my.

Yeah, that always struck me as odd - here's a guy who 'claims' to be so advanced he's on his last incarnation in this density before moving on, and yet he seems totally obsessed by hatred of women. Hatred might be a little strong, but if you read the material you'll know what i mean.

I was just astounded that he couldn't see himself, that this was one huge block that he needs to work through if he's ever going anywhere ...
 
truth seeker said:
Psalehesost said:
The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.
This pretty much sums up my feelings.

Me too
 
Thanks so much for all the replies and the discussion that came from this. I was very nervous about even posting the initial post, and to see so many replies and such good analysis of the given topic is really encouraging to me. It is also a really good mirror and has helped me identify some of my major programs that I still need to address, and that would have been more difficult to recognize if not for your input. It has helped me to recognize that guilt and shame still very much guide me (which is a residue due to my upbringing by narcissistic parents) and that I have an extreme need to be liked and fear judgement - which made me take a step back after posting up this thread, because I feared judgement and that I might be hated by our forum members (as ridiculous at it seems to me now, it just seems the predator just know how to play with me).

What it also helped to do was to make it clear what I could not really put my finger on before. I saw some similarities between what the radical feminist witches posted and the world structure we see today, I just doubted the explanation they had for it.

Psalehesost said:
The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.

And this post especially made it clear to me that the problem is that the other group is not able to see that the common denominator is psychopathy. It just highlights to me how important it is to learn to identify psychopathy and recognize all of its effects.
I must admit, it is sometimes still hard for me to accept that psychopaths even exist, since I used to see the world through rose-colored glasses. I used to think that in their core, all humans are good. I still need to work through having this belief dashed. It's like losing your innocence, the innocence of a child who just believed what he/she was told.

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electrosonic said:
B588 said:
I have read almost verbatim hate of females from "The Author" of the Matrix V material, associated with Val Valerian and Trufax.org. Only he goes a little further and actually presumes that all females are reptilians and we are planning on taking over the world...the foul and fecal language he uses is dripping with hatred and fear....and he is "gay"; thank God he's not sleeping with any women and hurting them with that stuff.....ooh my.

Yeah, that always struck me as odd - here's a guy who 'claims' to be so advanced he's on his last incarnation in this density before moving on, and yet he seems totally obsessed by hatred of women. Hatred might be a little strong, but if you read the material you'll know what i mean.

I was just astounded that he couldn't see himself, that this was one huge block that he needs to work through if he's ever going anywhere ...

Oh yes, I remember that Val Valerian also struck me as odd. Funny how the radical feminist witches say man are the black holes and Val Valerian said it's the women. It is like a huge "blame-game" and trying to scapegoat the other, the radical feminists using all men as scapegoats for the problems and Val doing the same using women as scapegoats. And all the while they fail to adress the real problem that the "war between the sexes" is engineered to divide us so that we are easier to conquer.
While reading through Matrix V, I couldn't really believe his claims that this is his last incarnation on this density, he just seemed to hateful for already being able to graduate.
 
crystalicdream said:
Psalehesost said:
The concept of the patriarchy is the result of not seeing the role played by psychopathy. Many more psychopaths are male than are female, hence the pathological ruling elite tends to be composed mostly of "men". This leads to the pathological influence filtering down throughout society from the top reflecting the "rulership" of men.

While culture takes on such forms, the pathological people actually at the top subjugate both men and women. This "elite" is distinguished by the pathology of its members rather than their sex. And so, normal men become the "workhorses" used to enrichen the elite, and they are sent off to be traumatized, maimed, and killed in wars. Women, meanwhile, become subjugated and exploited in different ways. It is hard to say that either sex is generally "in power" over the other, since everything that people believe about their societies is generally a farce and psychopaths are simply enjoying themselves playing and exploiting everyone else.

And this post especially made it clear to me that the problem is that the other group is not able to see that the common denominator is psychopathy. It just highlights to me how important it is to learn to identify psychopathy and recognize all of its effects.
I must admit, it is sometimes still hard for me to accept that psychopaths even exist, since I used to see the world through rose-colored glasses. I used to think that in their core, all humans are good. I still need to work through having this belief dashed. It's like losing your innocence, the innocence of a child who just believed what he/she was told.
Absolutely! And that's the really sad part about it or so I think - that psychopaths have various groups of people fighting against each other while they get away with murder (both literally and figuratively). It's this separation of the herd that keeps humanity as a whole from true communion and in my opinion, is the real meaning of the word antisocial as it relates to psychopathy.

I'm glad you pushed past your fears and posted, crystalicdream. :)
 
crystalicdream said:
electrosonic said:
B588 said:
I have read almost verbatim hate of females from "The Author" of the Matrix V material, associated with Val Valerian and Trufax.org. Only he goes a little further and actually presumes that all females are reptilians and we are planning on taking over the world...the foul and fecal language he uses is dripping with hatred and fear....and he is "gay"; thank God he's not sleeping with any women and hurting them with that stuff.....ooh my.

Yeah, that always struck me as odd - here's a guy who 'claims' to be so advanced he's on his last incarnation in this density before moving on, and yet he seems totally obsessed by hatred of women. Hatred might be a little strong, but if you read the material you'll know what i mean.

I was just astounded that he couldn't see himself, that this was one huge block that he needs to work through if he's ever going anywhere ...

Oh yes, I remember that Val Valerian also struck me as odd. Funny how the radical feminist witches say man are the black holes and Val Valerian said it's the women. It is like a huge "blame-game" and trying to scapegoat the other, the radical feminists using all men as scapegoats for the problems and Val doing the same using women as scapegoats. And all the while they fail to adress the real problem that the "war between the sexes" is engineered to divide us so that we are easier to conquer.
While reading through Matrix V, I couldn't really believe his claims that this is his last incarnation on this density, he just seemed to hateful for already being able to graduate.

Remember, final incarnation doesn't necessarily mean STO candidate - there's two pathways, after all:
Q: (L) Okay, who is this "final incarnation" guy presented on Val Valerian's website? Is it really somebody who is in his final incarnation as is claimed, is it made up, or is it Val himself?

A: Val.

Q: (L) So that is how a final incarnation of STS might think and the teachings they might present?

A: Yes.
 
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