Republican candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy respectfully reasons with an attentive woke liberal

[JGeropoulas]

Here's a video of something I've never witnessed: Harvard-educated Vivek Ramaswamy respectfully and effectively getting some important points across to this woke liberal podcast host--who, to his credit, actually listened instead of getting triggered and spouting talking points.

 

[Cosmos]

I don't trust Ramaswamy as far as I can throw him. My bet is that he is an Obama 2.0 type. Having said that, Ramaswamy has now pulled out of the presidential race and has positioned himself as a "firm Trump supporter":

My bet is on a sneaky strategic game Ramaswamy is playing, probably focused on infiltrating Trump and/or catching Trump supporters when Trump is gone. Somebody on X is asking if body language specialists could analyze Ramaswamy's hug and kiss of Trump:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747485706736349579

 

[irjO]

He is like the type of person who says all the good things you want to hear but also read somewhere that he was connected to the pharmaceutical industry as well, including investments. And how ironic that the MSM barely says something about him or attacks him. It really seems like a Obama 2.0 type of guy.

 

[Menna]

He is like the type of person who says all the good things you want to hear but also read somewhere that he was connected to the pharmaceutical industry as well, including investments. And how ironic that the MSM barely says something about him or attacks him. It really seems like a Obama 2.0 type of guy.

I think Vivek is a psychopath, sociopath and or Narcissist. His facial gestures insinuate he tries to smile, laugh and play to the public at certain inflection points in speeches, conversations and appearances. It’s mimicry like these types do. I don’t trust him.

To expound on what you said he purchased patents for a failed drug for a few million then pumped up his stock during phase 2 trials he had his mother a doctor approve said drug the stock ran up he sold all his shares and the stock dumped after phase 3 trials failed …..

These types don’t care about collateral damage such as the stock holders

You see how he used Trump by trying to get close wiper in his ear then went back in then opens his mouth wide smile to the crowd right after two thumbs up and walks off…its like a cartoon episode a movie a play …

He’s the type of person that is always at the party but no one invited him personally

 

[Beau]

I think Vivek is a psychopath, sociopath and or Narcissist. His facial gestures insinuate he tries to smile, laugh and play to the public at certain inflection points in speeches, conversations and appearances. It’s mimicry like these types do. I don’t trust him.

While I'm not fully trusting him either, I don't think one can make any kind of determination regarding psychopathy based on body language. Also keep in mind that all political candidates for office receiving training for public speaking. Frankly after listening to him talk about a number of subjects I think the opposite of you, that he is a souled being who wants to help Americans. That's interesting.

And how ironic that the MSM barely says something about him or attacks him. It really seems like a Obama 2.0 type of guy.

I think you have missed some of the stories written about him in the MSM recently:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/05/vivek-ramaswamy-conspiracy-theories-iowa/

White Supremacists Are Celebrating Vivek Ramaswamy’s ‘Great Replacement’ Rant

Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy boosted multiple far-right conspiracy theories during the GOP debate on Wednesday night, in a dangerous mainstreaming of once-fringe claims.

www.wired.com

Defending Trump, Ramaswamy Rattles Off Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories

Vivek Ramaswamy called the Jan. 6 attack an “inside job,” claimed that the 2020 election was stolen by “big tech” and suggested that the “great replacement theory” was Democratic policy.

www.nytimes.com

He's one of the few voices talking about the 2020 election being stolen and that Jan. 6 was an inside job. He also just endorsed Trump for prez. Perhaps we ought not demonize him so much.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

While I'm not fully trusting him either, I don't think one can make any kind of determination regarding psychopathy based on body language. Also keep in mind that all political candidates for office receiving training for public speaking. Frankly after listening to him talk about a number of subjects I think the opposite of you, that he is a souled being who wants to help Americans. That's interesting.

I think you have missed some of the stories written about him in the MSM recently:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/05/vivek-ramaswamy-conspiracy-theories-iowa/

White Supremacists Are Celebrating Vivek Ramaswamy’s ‘Great Replacement’ Rant

Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy boosted multiple far-right conspiracy theories during the GOP debate on Wednesday night, in a dangerous mainstreaming of once-fringe claims.

www.wired.com

Defending Trump, Ramaswamy Rattles Off Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories

Vivek Ramaswamy called the Jan. 6 attack an “inside job,” claimed that the 2020 election was stolen by “big tech” and suggested that the “great replacement theory” was Democratic policy.

www.nytimes.com

He's one of the few voices talking about the 2020 election being stolen and that Jan. 6 was an inside job. He also just endorsed Trump for prez. Perhaps we ought not demonize him so much.

White pill interpretation: Vivek, by being reasonable and not Trump-like in demeanor and delivery, pulled in a bunch of voters to what is essentially a "normies for a MAGA-but-not-Trump president" ticket. Having secured those votes, Vivek then hands them to Trump.

 

[irjO]

I think you have missed some of the stories written about him in the MSM recently:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/05/vivek-ramaswamy-conspiracy-theories-iowa/

White Supremacists Are Celebrating Vivek Ramaswamy’s ‘Great Replacement’ Rant

Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy boosted multiple far-right conspiracy theories during the GOP debate on Wednesday night, in a dangerous mainstreaming of once-fringe claims.

www.wired.com

Defending Trump, Ramaswamy Rattles Off Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories

Vivek Ramaswamy called the Jan. 6 attack an “inside job,” claimed that the 2020 election was stolen by “big tech” and suggested that the “great replacement theory” was Democratic policy.

www.nytimes.com

I have seen articles attacking him but very few compared to Trump or Ron DeSantis, I mean, could be that he was like 4th position in the polls, but I’ve seen videos of him, which makes me wonder (example):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1746319944772432378

 

[gottathink]

Hmmm, sounds like he’s got big supporters who maybe want an inside man in a Trump administration. If that should come to pass. This surely is cosmic level game of chess.

 

[Menna]

While I'm not fully trusting him either, I don't think one can make any kind of determination regarding psychopathy based on body language. Also keep in mind that all political candidates for office receiving training for public speaking. Frankly after listening to him talk about a number of subjects I think the opposite of you, that he is a souled being who wants to help Americans. That's interesting.

I understand your point.

He was making the same body language and indications during his multi million dollar drug company campaign. But I do agree it is hard to spot psychopath/sociopath by movements and interactions alone. My comments on his appearance with Trump are subjective the below is not.

He purchased failed drug had his mom approve phase 2 trials sold hedge funds on ipo got out after ipo when phase 3 trials failed company tanked. He moved on to politics…Does this fact make him a psychopath because of this one situation? No objectively I can’t say but what I can say is I don’t trust him. The psychopath/sociopath I admit is a stretch based on the info I have a jump to conclusions

 

[curious_richard]

I do not know if your native language is English. I would like to make your text more clear. I hope I understand what you mean.

He purchased failed drug had his mom approve phase 2 trials sold hedge funds on ipo got out after ipo when phase 3 trials failed company tanked.

Do you mean, "He bought stock (or all?) of a failed drug, and then his mother (somehow in government?) approved trials for this drug? And then his company got a lot of attraction on the stock market? And later, when the drug did not get good market coverage, the company stock was not so desirable?

Is this a good coverage of your story? Or do you wish to add information or changes to my view? You seem to dislike this person, and maybe you would like to add more information. More information might help me understand how bad this person is. Thank you!

 

[Menna]

Do you mean, "He bought stock (or all?) of a failed drug, and then his mother (somehow in government?) approved trials for this drug? And then his company got a lot of attraction on the stock market? And later, when the drug did not get good market coverage, the company stock was not so desirable?

Is this a good coverage of your story? Or do you wish to add information or changes to my view? You seem to dislike this person, and maybe you would like to add more information. More information might help me understand how bad this person is. Thank you!

I am skeptical of Vivek. That is really all my opinion about him - my lack of trust for him not dislike but trust based on past decisions, actions and nepotism to attain a goal that benefited few and hurt others. I just don’t trust him at current but this opinion can change…I think it’s unfair for me to jump to conclusion to call him a psychopath that is careless of me to do however psychopaths are very goal oriented and don’t care about collateral damage during achievement. It’s a psychopathic trait but doesn’t not make one a psychopath all together.

Explanation of events: Vivek through his Pharma company Axovant convinced a well established drug company in GlaxoSmithKline to sell him a failed (in multiple clinical trials) Alzheimer’s drug for 3 million dollars. He then had his mother who is a doctor put in charge of this failed drugs phase 2 clinical trials during this time Vivek raised money from hedge funds went on media tour and took his company public (stock) while his mother worked on the phase 2 trials. After his company went public IPO Vivek dumped his shares and or as the drug failed phase 3 trials the stock plunged down….

So my skepticism is from him purchasing a failed drug from a well known company who has more resources than him to see a drug through (well except a mom on staff) he then pushed phase 2 trials through with family working on them raised a lot of money took company public where everyday people can invest under the gules of I know something GlaxoSmithKline doesn’t he sold at the perfect time a and then drug was confirmed a failure again for the however many times = my skepticism (this is documented public knowledge) he was also in his late 20’s and hungry for success so maybe it was young/hopeful grandiosity on his part another trait but doesn’t not make a whole

His former employee sued him for forcing them to break securities law…but the happening from what I read in this situation are not as overt as the aforementioned.

I’ll put it this way I wouldn’t invite him over to my house but I’d go out for coffee with him