RHP - the greatest health protocol or the most dangerous ever invented?

[nicklebleu]

No, I believe it would be foolish to not use heparin for MAHT, but having said that I do see overuse...

We use 5, 000 to 7,500 units at most.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
http://www.ozonehospital.com

5000 to 7500 units of Heparin amounts to full anticoagulation, which is not without risk.

You sound a bit like a salesman, which in fact you are. There is nothing wrong with that per se, but I remain unconvinced, that your method is safe until I see some well-designed independent research.

 

[Zadius Sky]

Hi ozoneresearch,

I just noticed that you have yet made an introduction thread, given that you joined the forum last Friday, so I would like to shout out a belated welcome. We ask that new forum members introduce themselves in the Newbies section. Nothing personal, just a little bit about yourself and how you found the forum. If you are unsure of what to write, take a look at how others on the board have done it.

:)

 

[ozoneresearch]

Why thank you Zadius, I shall do that.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
_http://www.ozonehospital.com

 

[ozoneresearch]

Hi Nicklebleu:

I don't know where you get the info that it is full anti-coagulation, maybe read this _http://m.circ.ahajournals.org/content/103/24/2994.full

As for risk, everything in life has risk, coming to our clinic is not without risk even before our team administering RHP. The point is that heparin has saved many many lives and is in use for various issues as are other drugs, what would you have the scientific world do? To stop using a compound because it has a risk factor would mean banning almost everything we use, consume and do, wouldn't it? If there was any other safe and effective way to do RHP, we would do it, in a second but as yet there is not.

We ave performed over 100, 000 RHP sessions over the last two decades and all of them ave been without major issues. The ones that are posted here I have no information on so i can't comment but what I can say is that if the units they were using were not created by us or if the physician was not trained by us you will have issues as this is not standard ozone therapy, this is a true medical modality and should be treated with respect.

Thank you for the salesman compliment, in some cultures they are regarded as artists and visionaries. Let me be clear though, i am only answering your questions and trying to control the garbage that is out there regarding our therapy. I am not here to convince you or any one else about it's efficacy or potential, I have done enough of that and if common sense does not tell you why you would need this therapy then you are beyond convincing.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
_http://www.ozonehospital.com

 

[othree]

peter,

so given that as you say

it would be foolish to not use heparin for MAHT, but having said that I do see overuse

and again on your blog you say that MAHT requires heparin, and given that the FDA warns that

Hemorrhage can occur at virtually any site in patients receiving heparin

and that hypersensitivity to heparin can induce the following symptoms:

Hypersensitivity
Generalized hypersensitivity reactions have been reported, with chills, fever and urticaria as the most
usual manifestations, and asthma, rhinitis, lacrimation, headache, nausea and vomiting, and
anaphylactoid reactions, including shock, occurring more rarely. Itching and burning, especially on the
plantar side of the feet, may occur. Thrombocytopenia has been reported to occur in patients receiving heparin, with a reported incidence
of 0 to 30%.

While often mild and of no obvious clinical significance, such thrombocytopenia can be
accompanied by severe thromboembolic complications such as skin necrosis, gangrene of the
extremities that may lead to amputation, myocardial infarction, pulmonary embolism, stroke, and
possibly death.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2006/017037s158lbl.pdf

and further given that the patient's symptoms were, as the report states:

nausea and vomiting

and

gastrointestinal bleeding

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfmaude/detail.cfm?mdrfoi__id=871346

which are among the very symptoms the FDA describes can occur in up to 30% of cases when heparin is used in a correct manner, in a correct dosage, by correctly trained personnel,

could you please explain what your opinion is based on that it was not the heparin, but the ozone which caused her death?

I do not believe that t was heparin but I do believe that it was ozone

based on what information can you exclude with complete certainty that heparin did not induce internal bleeding and death in the cancer patient?
based on what information can you exclude that the patient didn't die due to hypersensitivity to heparin?

 

[ozoneresearch]

Without the facts in the case which are rather vague and missing, of course no one sensible enough can conclude either way. To me, I have witnessed more reactions to the abuse of ozone especially in cancer cases than I have in the abuse of heparin or heparin induced issues. In autohaemotherapy, minimal amounts of heparin are and should be used and you are right it could have been the cause but it would depend on quite a few factors. The whole report that is on the site is very vague and does not really give any information, it does not even say whether heparin was used. Other factors not noted are what stage the cancer was, were there any secondaries, what was the patients condition at the time? All these variables have a lot to do with what could have caused her death. It may not have been heparin or ozone that caused her unfortunate death. In some cases that I have seen, many folks do their own healing at home because they read on the internet, heard from a friend, saw in a magazine and try some very risky things on themselves. So, this death could be from anything, without all the facts we can speculate and blame all we want but that really is not an intelligent way of looking at things, is it?

This whole thread and what you have pointed out speaks volumes about the inexperience and abuse of medical ozone therapy in today's world. Had the physician attending to this poor girl followed common sense diagnostics before doing any therapy on her, this unfortunate incident may not have occurred. What doctor in his right mind would ignore symptoms and classify them as cancer cell death. This is the real issue that we should be addressing. The issue of untrained or barely trained ozone therapists thrown out into the world that have no clue as to the difference between a symptom and a Hertz reaction or what to look for, they don't even do any preliminary testing on patients before therapy. We have would be doctors and self made gurus on the internet telling people what to take and when based on no knowledge of that persons history or any knowledge of their biology. Forums and chat lines with folks saying this worked for me, people that have only used ozone or other modalities on themselves dictating to others what they should do and not do. The worst of all these is when a reaction does occur it is normally classified as a "detox", God help us. I think, with all due respect, othree that the issues surrounding the use of ozone therapy and those administering it far outweigh the importance of the use or abuse of heparin. Heparin is another drug that is there to help with certain modalities, is it completely safe, no, but then what drug can you look up on the internet that will give you no warnings against it's use. Everything we use in medical science has it's risks and benefits but if we are well trained in what matters and apply that training before administering any drug, herb or what have you on our patients we minimize the risks involved. I think before we condemn anything we really need to consider the person applying the wisdom, therapy, modality and so on because should something go sour, it would be the first logical place to look and not the product itself.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
_http://www.ozonehospital.com

 

[Gawan]

Hi ozoneresearch, maybe it was just an incident since you cannot yet edit your posts, but why did you repost the same message from several hours ago?

 

[mkrnhr]

the second copy of the post has been deleted.

 

[othree]

peter, are the attached screenshots, pictures of things you posted on your facebook wall?

 

[othree]

I have witnessed more reactions to the abuse of ozone especially in cancer cases

please, can you name some specific cases and what the abuse consisted of and how you determined that the "abuse" was due to ozone ?

also: what is your experience in dealing with cancer cases? or your qualifications?

 

[ozoneresearch]

Hi Othree:

No, I do not wish to talk about specific cases, I may at some point in time but I think at this point it is enough to issue warnings about the use of ozone in cancer. My qualifications and experience are well documented on my websites and online.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
_http://www.ozonehospital.com

 

[othree]

No, I do not wish to talk about specific cases, I may at some point in time but I think at this point it is enough to issue warnings about the use of ozone in cancer

based on what clinical observations or scientific research do you feel it's important to issue warnings about the use of ozone in cancer ?

do the above posted screen shots show accurately what you posted on your facebook group?

 

[ozoneresearch]

Hi Othree:

Please note that this thread is about RHP, safety and efficacy and not what I believe to be true about ozone and cancer. My warnings are based on over 17 years of clinical research and use with ozone. Should you wish to pursue this further, please go to my forums and facebook groups as you obviously have already.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter “Professor Ozone” Jovanovic Ph.D. (Hon.), M.D.(A.M.)
Founder and CEO
Ozone Research Group Inc.
Owner of Trademark, Certification, Research and Training
RHP (Recirculatory Haemoperfusion)
United States, Canada and European Union
_http://www.ozonehospital.com

 

[wisdom911]

Ozone research why on every page about ozone therapies at the bottom of the page its say this is not to treat,prevent or cure any diseases. But it claims to do all that?

 

[Gaby]

Ozone research why on every page about ozone therapies at the bottom of the page its say this is not to treat,prevent or cure any diseases. But it claims to do all that?

It is like DMSO, it has the label of "not approved by the FDA", "use at your own risk" and all that. Disclaimers of all sorts are often added to alternative treatments. Caveat lector, research must be done.

Ozone therapy seems safer to me in the sense that it is often made in a clinic setting with experienced professionals.

FWIW!