Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism: Armageddonism and Politics

[Mari]

The woman is Israeli and her husband was a foreigner but not from Israel. They are moving to Israel—interesting choice considering the war over there—but had permanent residence in New Zealand a country a lot of people wish they could be living in right now. It made me curious as to why they left so I searched the internet for ‘Jews returning to Israel 2025’.

Jesus, the propaganda is still so strong. They apparently don´t realize that Israel is far from heaven on earth:

Record number of Israelis have left the country since 2020, with no plan to stop the exodus

Israel is seeing a sharp rise in emigration, with 145,900 more citizens leaving than returning since 2020; A Knesset report links the trend to the Oct. 7 war, warns of strategic risks, and notes the government lacks a plan to reverse the exodus

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Record number of Israelis have left the country since 2020, with no plan to stop the exodus

Israel is seeing a sharp rise in emigration, with 145,900 more citizens leaving than returning since 2020; A Knesset report links the trend to the Oct. 7 war, warns of strategic risks, and notes the government lacks a plan to reverse the exodus

Two years since the Gaza war broke out, a new Knesset report on Monday reveals a particularly grim picture: Israel is running a negative migration balance, and the government has no plan to stop the worrying trend. Data shows a sharp rise in Israelis moving abroad after the October 7 massacre.

A special report by the Knesset’s Research and Information Center (RIC), prepared ahead of today’s session of the Knesset Committee for Immigration, Absorption and Diaspora Affairs, presents troubling numbers: between 2020 and 2024, some 145,900 more Israelis left the country than returned.

In 2020, 34,000 Israelis left for extended periods, followed by 43,400 in 2021; by contrast, 32,500 and 23,600 returned in those years, respectively.

In the years 2022–2023, there was a sharp jump in long‑term departures: in 2022, 59,400 Israelis left, representing a 44 % increase over the prior year, and in 2023 that rose to 82,800, up 39 % from 2022, with a marked increase of departures in October 2023 after the war broke out.

The rise in departures remained steady in 2024, as between January and August 2024, roughly 50,000 Israelis left, a rate similar to 2023.
Meanwhile, the number of Israelis returning after extended stays abroad fell: 24,200 in 2023 versus 29,600 in 2022; and between January and August 2024, only 12,100 returned versus 15,600 in the same months of 2023.

In all recent years the number of returning Israelis has been smaller than the number of leaving. In 2023, the gap nearly doubled to 58,600 Israelis; in 2024 (to August) it fell to 36,900 Israelis.

Negative migration balance in Israel

Committee chair MK Gilad Kariv said, “This is no longer a trend of people leaving the country, it’s a tsunami. Many Israelis are choosing to build their future outside the State of Israel, and fewer and fewer choose to return. This phenomenon threatens the resilience of Israeli society and must be seen as a real strategic threat."

“This is not fate but the result of government actions that fractured Israeli society before the war and neglected the civilian front over the past two years", he added.

"We can reduce this phenomenon, but the current government’s priorities are entirely different, which will only intensify the worrying trend. These priorities are no less than trampling on Zionist values and the future of Israeli society."

Meanwhile, ahead of the Knesset discussion, it emerged that the Israeli government has no structured plan to curb the phenomenon or to encourage the return of Israeli expatriates. According to Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) data, between last Rosh Hashanah and this Rosh Hashanah, 79,000 Israelis migrated abroad.

Breakdown by cities: Tel Aviv–Jaffa leads the emigration figures, accounting for 14% of all Israelis who left in 2024; followed by Haifa (7.7 %), Netanya (6.9 %) and Jerusalem (6.3 %).

The fewest were from Herzliya (1.8 %), Ashkelon (1.9 %) and Be’er Sheva (2.1 %).

More men left: 42,605 compared with 40,169 women.

By age groups: 28,915 were 30‑49; 22,183 were 0‑19; 16,095 were 20‑29; 15,581 were 50+ years.

 

[Niall]

The 'woke mind virus' has nothing on this parasitic virus, which has largely flown under the radar and is only just beginning to be challenged - as a direct result of Israel's genocide in Gaza - in US public discourse...

Preach it, Father Tucker!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1982986937364365502

 

[Ruth]

Although the title of this video is about Erika Kirk, the first 11.38 minutes is about debunking the idea of "Christian Zionism"!

Christian Zionism is a position held by Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and many other pastors who preach it to their congregations in their Christian Churchs. It is something that's actively supported by the State of Israel.

Zach Costello says that the term literally doesn't make any sense. He says: "It's a bit like saying - I'm a man/girl", or, "I'm a Catholic Muslim" (10.41).

I thought it was an interesting, as well as a compelling opinion on Christian Zionism and how it actually ends up being a complete theological and religious contradiction. He should definitely do a further video on it.

 

[Ruth]

This is Zack's 6 minute video 'debunking' Christian Zionism:
He's saying it's basically a contradition in terms due to the concept of "supercessionism".

 

[palestine]

It is my opinion that during Biden who publicly stated "I am a proud Zionist" - he kind of opened the gates to something. With the main stream elements at hand, we may be tempted to say that what took place at the White House was "opening the gates to Zionism", and allocating the US resources during four years.

I don't believe that it was exactly Zionism that went into the White House. But let's assume it was so:

From there, the scenario is that Zionism is a too shallow and oversimplified ideology; Zionists would have gotten the keys of the White House, and free access to all that the USA provides. (I have been especially worried about the secret UFO programs, high tech, HAARP and mind control). And then, what would have been taking place is that those people, acting out of the Zionist ideology, would stumble upon obstacle after obstacle, because their ideology is too weak overall. The Zionist template would be akin to play football with a ball that has no air inside.

Something I know of, is that Zionism, as a schizoïd ideology, can undergo pathocracy in a quick way. Zionism seems too pathological in itself so as to remain able to stand long-time duration without turning into its essence - a nothingburger, damaging and pathological. And when a pathological ideology is set as the main structurating framework, it usually become pathocratic, and psychopaths hijack the group.

I suppose that it may be possible that the strong Zionist belonging (Biden) attracted "the blob" (the fungus / the real face of pathology / a specific face of pathology) - and that it's what did all the above at the White House. The scenario changes slightly, in terms of the idea of "pulling the strings", and we would have to detect an additional "player". A sort of handler, using Zionism.

Israel may benefit from this in any case (Zionism or the hidden pathological element), as some factions are relating to 4D STS. I sometimes wonder if the 4D STS aspect of Israel is to be framed in "4D STS pawns", "battling other 4D STS factions" - or if they are belonging to the "big group". The matter is, overall: was Israel literally used, in an expandable motion, at its expense, during Biden (because we notice Trump almost compelled to shake hands every day)?
I am not even sure that the above is a proper layout; just trying to lay down the scenario.

Another point is that Harrison KOEHLI stated that Capitalism, starting in the 60's, underwent a pathocracy, and that it "died" when Trump won the elections. This corroborates the basic & raw idea that something was really "off" during Biden. This hints at:

- Biden was NOT in charge, or almost not
- There was a hidden power structure, pathological, who was about to turn reality upside down, and set "pathology" as the new norm, overriding the status quo of "normal people structure" (the government of the USA, becoming the USA govt, but under the rule of pathology and not any more under the basic/normal rule)

Another problem that I encounter here is that pathocracy requires an ideology to grow upon (in a concealed way, so as to later seize power and set its pathological system of governance): Harrison KOEHLI states that Capitalism unfortunately did that job, so that it was Capitalism which was parasited by pathology, almost to the turning point. How does, Zionism, here, fit into the equation? My assessment of Zionism as THE pathocratic ideology would fail... It can be that it is not countradictory, because Zionism would have added a sort of additional pathology, to the already existing parasitized Capitalism. It can be, too, from this perspective, that Zionism has specific Capitalist affinities, so that it would reinforce the pathologization of Capitalism. No clue.

But I find it puzzling to have that guy, Biden, publicly valuing "Zionism" - and thinking that such a system of government would not add up much pathology. An exacerbation of pathology would have happened for sure. Harrison KOEHLI did not provide specifics about this spec in his article, and I believe that he is right when he points the finger at Capitalism.

I see Zionism as a sort of impracticable fantasy, some very dirty thing that has no chance at all to come up as a viable way for operating whatever. This could be the solution: Zionism would be like "practicing new age rituals" in comparison of "spirituality". Nothing serious.

Sorry for the long post! Just tried to sum up the different elements, and to see how they fit.

What I see is a yet unknown "player" or protagonist
- using Zionism as a 3D object for its basic lush
- initially / basically infiltrating Capitalism
- pillaging, exhausting, ruining America for four years, and using all of its structures
- an unknown "goal", could be - it's not personal wealth, I suppose

We may speculate on the Capitalist aspect, so that we may retrace that "fungus" via the money structures of the USA. I think of China as a big manufacturer, Frankfurt as the European stock exchange. That's how it was spreading. If it had been feeding upon the Communist ideology, its international scope would have been different, I suppose.

From there on, we can assume some rotten parts on the economic channels from and to the USA. We could retrace the fungus. We have been witnessing vast sums of money going to Israel. European banks emptied their money to send it to Israel and Ukraine. But I believe that those acted as intermediary - with the pathological structure. Ultimately, where did the money end up? I see that if we could interrogate Ukraine and Israel, they would tell us where the money went to. Big speculations of course!