Sad Story....

Sorry to hear what has happend near to you. I hope more information had come in order for you and your son to understand and cope better.
 
angelburst29 said:
Very sorry to hear about the news, Dawn.

The article seems to be leaving out alot of vital information? It gives no hint, as to what kind of threat the text message entailed or what it might involve. It just deepens the mystery and adds another measure of uncertainty for parent's trying to cope and help their children.

The information surrounding his death is just as confusing.

"While family was contacted, family was present, law enforcement was present, the student, while retrieving some articles of clothing, retrieved a small caliber handgun and turned that handgun on himself and discharged it on himself," said Maj. Tom Reddin with the Boone County Sheriff's Department."

After reading that paragraph, you're left trying to put pieces together, as to who or what was going on? I can relate to the fact, that it was probably a very chaotic situation, within the household at that moment, but to report and print something like that, is inexcusable. It sound like a sports, play-by-play with an excited announcer.

The one thing that stands out, it seems he was allowed to retrieve some clothing (alone) and supposedly shot himself in the chest? Then there's this statement, "As officers were taking the teenager into custody, he obtained a gun, turned it on himself and shot himself in the chest." Something doesn't add up? Is it possible, he grab one of the police officers guns or worse yet, police shot him in the chest? Geez?

Dawn, by your Son's description of his personality being a funny guy, the class clown and not one to make threats, what would make this kid do a 360* turn? Could it be a case of him being threatened, in some way - (bullied or sexually)? It also states, the text message was sent 10:45 PM to the school superintendent. Why him and not a teacher or the school principle? Seem's to be more questions than answers.

I hope their more forthcoming with decent and truthful information, so parent's and students can work towards some type of understanding, to help with the healing and tragedy.

I am really sorry to hear this, Dawn. All the best to your family and the family of the young man in question.
If your son doesn't want to write, maybe he would like to draw or paint or do some crafts? Or you could both make a memorial.

I taught at a secondary school for a while and I can remember the shock and the grief when a pupil died after an accident. His friend that had been there changed overnight from a fun-loving boy into a serious, different person.

I agree with angelburst29. Something is off, OSIT. Can we really believe a superintendent and a sheriff's department? Since the family must be in shock and in mourning we won't hear from them (any time soon) I would think. So, the authorities can say whatever they like.
 
What a terrible news, really sorry to hear about this Dawn, I wish you & your son well :hug2:
I can't imagine the grief his parents must be in, I hope they'll get some answers to what happened.
 
I'm very sorry to hear this, Dawn. It must've been a shock for you and especially you son. To the whole community.
I hope you will be able to take some time off. Take care of yourself :hug2:

Dawn said:
It's weird because Brandon (my son) said he was a really funny guy. Not at all that way (making threats). He was the 'class clown' and very funny. So I don't understand at all the threats and all of that.

That paragraph made my think of something I've watched recently. It was a documentary "Mind of a Rampage Killer". I remember this one boy, who shoot to death two or three kids in his school and wounded a dozen of others. When they have interviewed his father he said he didn't understand how this could have happened, that his son never showed violent behaviour, that he was the 'class clown'. As it turned out, the boy was also a new kid in town and school, and he was severely bullied. He later said that he brought a gun to school and wanted to cause a disturbance; he had a plan to be killed by the police, because he wanted to die. In the end when it all started, something made him change his mind, and instead he started shooting his schoolmates.
This film made very sad. It showed that most of those kids, who committed those crimes were lost, felt alone, angry or felt like they had no other choice. Some of them felt like crap their entire life, and wanted to change that by just this once being in charge. It was also scary, because it showed how infected our system is. Most of those kinds were no psychopaths.

But I agree that in this case the information surrounding your son's friend's death is just as confusing. It baffled me too, when I've read the article. Something here doesn't add up.
 
It showed that most of those kids, who committed those crimes were lost, felt alone, angry or felt like they had no other choice. Some of them felt like crap their entire life, and wanted to change that by just this once being in charge. It was also scary, because it showed how infected our system is. Most of those kinds were no psychopaths
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This is what is sooo sad. There can be many variables though something doesn't seem right at all.

I am so sorry for everyone suffering through this, especially the boy's family and your son. Piecing together what his mates say may help. But more important now is support for your son in every way possible. Even with such continual reports on MSM being enough to get youth down nowadays, losing someone close at their age is a bigger shock to try to cope with. I think that apart from immediate family, they may not know who to trust nowadays.

Good that counselling is available but first people need to know the obvious to be able to cope - The Why?

Wishing you love and courage

:hug2: :hug2: :hug2:
 
There's something about that article, besides an "innocent" 17 year old getting killed, that eats at my stomach. I sense "a major cover up" here and the key player is the Superintedent, Christopher Felmlee.

I know, I probably sound as confusing and conjointed as the article, so I will try to re-arrange the pieces of limited information into a clearer defined picture.

Clues are in the article's "format". In fact, it's written arse-backwards. The "cover-up" starts at the beginning ...... while they try to rationalize how a 17 yr. old was shot and killed ... towards the end.

The first half of the article goes into lengthy clear detail of "actions taken AFTER the tragedy" by the Superintedent and Police force. Starting at the articles beginning, I'll use bracket's ( ) for comment.

"A threatening text message prompted Southern Boone School District officials to cancel classes Tuesday and authorities believe a deadly shooting is connected to that threat."
(Superintedent Christopher Felmlee has been transformed into Southern Boone School District officials and the police are now termed - authorities. The threat in the text message has not been stated but is given as the reason classes have been cancelled. A text message leaves an ID imprint - unless he's another Ed Showden proto-type - but authorities "believe" it's connected to the deadly shooting?)

"The superintendent told ABC 17 News he received a "very ominous" threat via text message Monday night that indicated something bad was going to happen. The threat was directed toward the high school, but the district canceled all Tuesday classes as a precaution." ( We're left in the dark trying to decifer "very ominous" threat but told - it indicated something bad was going to happen and directed toward the HS.)

"Superintendent Christopher Felmlee says he received the text around 10:45 p.m. Monday."
(Again, why the Superintendent and not a Teacher or Principle "if" the threat was supposively directed at the HS? Was "the threat" actually something the 17 yr. old witnessed or heard or experianced and was confronting the Superintendent? And why that late on a Monday night? If actions are any indication of what was exchanged, it was deemed a threat to Felmlee - personally, carreer-wise or Politically?)

"Ashland police and the Boone County Sheriff's Department deemed the threat credible."
(Acknowledging the Superintendent's position.)

"Police searched the school using bomb-sniffing dogs but didn't find anything dangerous. They searched the district's middle and elementary schools as well to make sure there was no danger. Authorities say no devices were found in any of the district's buildings and all schools have been cleared. Along with Ashland officers and Boone County deputies, the University of Missouri Police Department, Capital Police, Mid-Missouri Bomb Squad and the ATF responded."
(A kid sends a 10:45 PM identifible text message to a Superintendent and hours after he's shot and dead, around 2 A.M. Tuesday morning, not only is the HS closed/canceled but the district's middle and elementary school (s) so the local Militarized Police force, bomb squad, ATF, etc can perform "a training Drill?" Without knowing the true nature of "the threat" we're led to believe it has something to do with a bomb (s) or gun (s)? If there is something "concrete in that assessment" - why aren't the same "force's" surrounding the Parent's home, excorting them out the door with their hands over their heads (a.k.a. Boston) and tearing apart every square inch of their home - looking for the same? )

"Around 2 a.m. Tuesday, emergency officials were called to Bob Veach Road in Ashland for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Authorities say they were called to the home of a 17-year-old Ashland High School student, who they believe sent the threatening text message."
(Finally, after all the pomp and circumstance of the honorary actions of the School District's Superintendent and Military exercises of the combined Police Forces, a hint as to "WHY." But even here, they screw up! They have "the emergency officials" - "ambulance in English lingo" called before acknowledging the Police Officers sent in to arrest him first, here refered to as "authorities." Again, the word, "believe" which is only circumstancial in terms of "if it's solid evidence?" )

"As officers were taking the teenager into custody, he obtained a gun, turned it on himself and shot himself in the chest. "While family was contacted, family was present, law enforcement was present, the student, while retrieving some articles of clothing, retrieved a small caliber handgun and turned that handgun on himself and discharged it on himself," said Maj. Tom Reddin with the Boone County Sheriff's Department."
(Notice - the repetition of words oddly place close to one another a.k.a. mind programming;

turned it on himself
shot himself in the chest
turned that handgun on himself
discharged it on himself ..... (Are you convinced, yet?)

while family was contacted
family was present
law enforcement was present ... (Security over-tones in an unsecure setting.)

The first sentence is what they want you to believe but never establish where or how he obtained the gun. They bury the details by inserting that claim - in the center of the sentence. Same format in second sentence.

he obtained a gun
while retrieving some articles of clothing ... this "retrieving" is inserted first - as a directional ploy.
retrieved a small caliber handgun ... "retrieved" is repeated - so you associate clothing with small caliber handgun as a "singular thought." It leaves the impression - the gun is separate to ownership - to that of a Police Fire Arm ... sublimially steering away from the possibility - he was shot by a police revolver, either intensionally or during an altercation of some sort and accidently shot in the chest?

"The teen later died at an area hospital. Authorities are not releasing his name at this time."
(My heart and prayer's go out to his family and the tradgic loss of a young man, who's only offense might have been he either heard or witnessed something or was enduring some type of bulling or sexual overtones or worse which he felt the superintendent could stop or eliminate. (Or was cause-of?)
Whatever happened and why, I sense he was an innocent bystander that got caught in the middle. Focus should be on the superintendent, for answers and why the cover-up?)

It may have something to do with this:
http://www.komu.com/news/letter-asserts-wrongdoing-in-southern-boone-school-district/
Letter asserts wrong doing in Southern Boone county School.
 
For some reason I think you are correct angelburst29 , I get a really strange feeling about this case.
 
I apologize if my last post looks 'compact' and hard to read. It wasn't my intention to leave it that way but to separate the information in the bracket's ( ) with a clear line space in between. A sudden storm with heavy thunder and lightning forced me to complete in haste. I no sooner posted, when the power went out. It turned into a very unusual storm. Heavy hail and rain with thunder claps that kept setting off car alarms in the neighborhood. Sitting in the dark, it was almost comical listening to the car alarms but the shear intensity of the lightning strikes were no laughing matter.

http://wnep.com/2013/09/11/heat-wicked-weather-pounding-area/

Back to the matter at hand. I checked the net for other reports on the incident and the one's I came across, including one reported by CBS news - all mimic the same report, word for word. Some are a condensed version. I had hoped to get further details but all are towing the party line. Nor do any of the reports have anything listed in the comments section. To me, that's a red flag.

Without a name, there's no way of checking FB. His account might have been placed on temporary hold or scrubbed altogether, if there's truly a cover up.

In going through the article and re-arranging the information, I come away with the feeling, what ever prompted this 17 year old high school student - to contact the Superintendent via a text message at a late hour on Monday night, it must have been an important issue to the student. What ever it was, the Superintendent considered it a threat, either personally, professionally, politically or all 3? I envision the Superintendent contacting someone in the Police Force that he rubs elbows with, for their jobs at the top are political, to send two cops over to the student's address, to scare and maybe rough him up alittle to silence him. In the process, something went very wrong. They now have a dead student on their hands.
The cover-up is to protect themselves including whatever was in the conversation between the student and the Superintendent.

I know I'm proposing a high assumption but I feel that 17 year old "knew" something, reported it and died for it. An innocent kid - that knew too much - and it cost him his life. The public have been given a totally different explanation, that trashes that kid's and his family's reputation. it's going to be hard, getting at the truth.

I would be interested in any further information.
 
Just noticed this on SOTT:
http://www.sott.net/article/266243-Missouri-teen-fatally-shot-himself

This from the first article (1st):
"The superintendent told ABC 17 News he received a "very ominous" threat via text message Monday night that indicated something bad was going to happen. The threat was directed toward the high school, but the district canceled all Tuesday classes as a precaution."

And this: "Superintendent Christopher Felmlee says he received the text around 10:45 p.m. Monday."

This from the second (2nd):
"Ashland Police Chief Lyn Woolford said the situation came to his department's attention around 10:30 p.m. Monday when "a fellow student" reported receiving the threatening text message. The message was forwarded to the Ashland police and to Southern Boone County School Superintendent Chris Felmlee."

1st:
"Ashland police and the Boone County Sheriff's Department deemed the threat credible."

"Police searched the school using bomb-sniffing dogs but didn't find anything dangerous. They searched the district's middle and elementary schools as well to make sure there was no danger. Authorities say no devices were found in any of the district's buildings and all schools have been cleared. Along with Ashland officers and Boone County deputies, the University of Missouri Police Department, Capital Police, Mid-Missouri Bomb Squad and the ATF responded."


2nd:
Subsequent investigation by Ashland police and Boone County sheriff's deputies deemed the threat to be "non-descriptive," but also "credible" and "dangerous." They declined to elaborate on the exact wording of the threatening message.

"It was specific enough to indicate something would happen at the school and it would involve injury, which was enough to make us believe it needed more attention," Woolford said.

Concern surrounding the incident led school leaders to cancel classes and all related school activities Tuesday, in order to allow law enforcement agencies to search overnight for bombs or other potentially dangers. Six agencies - including the MU Police Department, Capitol Police, Mid-Missouri Bomb Squad and the ATF - were mobilized.

"No devices of a threatening nature were discovered, and the school facilities have been released," Woolford said.

1st:
"Around 2 a.m. Tuesday, emergency officials were called to Bob Veach Road in Ashland for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Authorities say they were called to the home of a 17-year-old Ashland High School student, who they believe sent the threatening text message."

"As officers were taking the teenager into custody, he obtained a gun, turned it on himself and shot himself in the chest. "While family was contacted, family was present, law enforcement was present, the student, while retrieving some articles of clothing, retrieved a small caliber handgun and turned that handgun on himself and discharged it on himself," said Maj. Tom Reddin with the Boone County Sheriff's Department."

The teen later died at an area hospital. Authorities are not releasing his name at this time."

2nd:
Working together, an Ashland police officer and a Boone County deputy first tried to contact the deceased student - who is believed to be the originator of the text message - around 1:30 a.m. Tuesday.

Maj. Tom Reddin said while officers spoke with family members, the teen was asked to retrieve some clothing so that he could be taken into custody. While retrieving those items in another room, the distraught teenager apparently also picked up a small-caliber handgun, which he turned on himself and discharged into his chest.

In response to the shooting, emergency medical services and fire personnel were summoned to the residence at Bob Veach Road at 1:57 a.m.

Reddin said officers at the scene and emergency workers attempted to resuscitate him. The teen was transported to a Columbia hospital by ambulance where he died, Reddin said.

Officials were not yet willing to say what might have motivated the teen to send the text message or shoot himself. Reddin noted the situation is still under investigation and law enforcement officers will continue to interview people who knew him to "provide insight into the mindset of the deceased."
 
So very sorry to hear of this, Dawn :( ... deeply tragic and sorrowful ~ big hug :hug: and condolences to that young man's loved ones and to you, your son, all others affected ~ :hug2: :hug2: :hug2:
 
Another link to this story:

"Grief counselors were available Wednesday as Southern Boone schools resumed classes, one day after 17-year-old Jacob Meadows shot himself to death in connection with a police investigation into a threatening text message aimed at the local high school.

The school district canceled classes yesterday as bomb-detecting dogs and officers from multiple law enforcement agencies searched every district facility to make sure there were no "threatening devices" on the premises. Meanwhile, the investigation into the teen's suicide and a review of law enforcement procedures continues.".

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/local/ashland-teen-s-suicide-raises-questions/article_f26f7538-1aff-11e3-b005-10604b9f6eda.html
 
So sorry to hear this, Dawn. :hug: My best wishes to you and to your son, and to the boy's family. And may your son's friend rest in piece. Surely, the investigation into the matter is needed, osit.
 
So, is it safe to say that it is not even certain if Jacob Meadows sent this message? Could be just another fabricated lie.

While I was reading the article that you had posted, Dawn, I recalled a same sort of bizarre situation where a superintendent was involved. It was documented in 'The war on kids'.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28916.msg364120.html#msg364120

This superintendent (or the principal?) suspected drugs on the premises of a school, so police officers, dogs, the whole circus, were called in while the students were at school. Of course, no drugs were found. In the meantime kids had been terrorized and although the superintendent admitted that no drugs had been found and that a mistake had been made he still thought they had acted correctly.

Just watching this man gave me the chills.
FWIW.

Interesting, angelburst29, that you experienced some serious lightning after writing one of your posts.

Hope your son is doing okay, Dawn. :hug2:
 
Quote from: Mariama

Interesting, angelburst29, that you experienced some serious lightning after writing one of your posts.


It was an intense storm with heavy rains intermixed with bouts of hail. 2 separate incidents in my area, of two individuals getting struck by lightning - from a near by strike. Both are recovering and very lucky!

Dawn, from a distance, the only thing I know about this Jacob Meadows is that he is a 17 year old Ashland High School student, who they believe sent a threatening text message. No details about school activities (sport's, etc.) nor anything suggesting a prior criminal record or scrapes with the law, DUI's and things of that nature. Just a normal teenager who had a sense of humor and joked around. Do you have any idea - as to what the Father does for a living (banker - accountant - on the School Board - in politics)?
Wondering, if another angle might be, using the Son to get to the Parent's (Father) for some reason to ruin his standing in the Community? Just a thought.

This statement below - bother's me for some strange reason - it's like a "developing 3rd man theme" where you have a 17 year old on one end - the Superintendent and Police on the other end and suddenly, a middle man "a fellow student" enters into the scene. Both ends get played while the middle remains "a secret" that can be manipulated behind the scenes to a hidden agenda. It's a scapegoat position.

"Ashland Police Chief Lyn Woolford said the situation came to his department's attention around 10:30 p.m. Monday when "a fellow student" reported receiving the threatening text message. The message was forwarded to the Ashland police and to Southern Boone County School Superintendent Chris Felmlee."

The first article gives the impression that the 17 year old text messaged the Superintendent. The second article relates "a fellow student" reported receiving a threatening text message and contact Police, then in turn (text messaged?) the Superintendent? A lot of questions.
 
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