Safe sunscreens / sun lotion

Below is a recent interview with Bruce Fife regarding the various properties of coconut oil. Including its use as a sunscreen. I've tried it. And I must say I like the results. Now I've begun using it as a daily lotion. Apparently, the island folks have been doing this for a long time.

http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2011/brucefife/
 
sitting said:
Below is a recent interview with Bruce Fife regarding the various properties of coconut oil. Including its use as a sunscreen. I've tried it. And I must say I like the results. Now I've begun using it as a daily lotion. Apparently, the island folks have been doing this for a long time.

http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2011/brucefife/

I've used coconut oil as a sunscreen and I've found it to work moderately well. I've only used it a couple of times in that context, so I'm not totally sure of the results. I plan to take it with me on my next vacation and really give it a real test.
 
RyanX said:
sitting said:
Below is a recent interview with Bruce Fife regarding the various properties of coconut oil. Including its use as a sunscreen. I've tried it. And I must say I like the results. Now I've begun using it as a daily lotion. Apparently, the island folks have been doing this for a long time.

http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2011/brucefife/

I've used coconut oil as a sunscreen and I've found it to work moderately well. I've only used it a couple of times in that context, so I'm not totally sure of the results. I plan to take it with me on my next vacation and really give it a real test.


Actually a doctor told me it only gives you an SPF of 6 to 8 so it only last a few minutes, then you need to reapply, I mixed it with zinc oxide, or only use zinc oxide mixed with my moisturiser. It has a good protection level, you can use a fluffy make up brush and dust zinc oxide all over. ;)
 
Ringo said:
truth seeker said:
Ringo said:
I know obviously the safest way is to have 25mins or so of sun then just cover up, but with kids in schools these days if you don't provide an alternative they get covered in god only knows what!
Do you mean that they'll force the child to wear sunscreen?

They request sunscreen is provided during the summer as a policy for when children play out, and apply their own if you forget. I could request none to be applied, but that'll just reduce their time out in the fresh air.



Gimpy said:
If your children are allergic to sunscreens (and I know many who are allergic to certain ingredients, like sweet almond oil and cocoa butter) finding places that stock sunblocking clothing are another option:

They're not allergic thankfully. Have had some sunblocking swim clothes when they were really young for when they were around and in water. Just glad i went that route through ease back then, and wasn't caking them in falsly advertised waterproof suncreens.


Stranger said:
If you want to use mineral containing sunblockers, those with (not nano size) zinc oxide seem to be the safest (You will find some here). And this is a review of sunscreens only with zinc oxide with some recommendations. (scroll down)

Cheers, will have a good look through that list..

Gonzo said:
I recall 15 years ago, our kids being forced the wear sunscreen at school, especially on school trips where the kids would be in the sun. I wish I knew about the benefits of the sun or the hazards of sunblock back then. I would have put something else on their skin and lied about it being sunblock.

Didn't think about using a placebo sunscreen! Might have to try that in the meantime :)

Great idea on the placebo! If the people insist on seeing a bottle just empty out the contents of the sunscreen bottle, wash it out really well then insert plain lotion. Also, I have heard from the owners of a local organic store that taking fish oil prevents sunburn. They go to Mexico regularly for vacations and never wear suncreen but take regular good-sized doses of fish oil and do not burn. Just a nice tan.
 
April said:
Ringo said:
truth seeker said:
Ringo said:
I know obviously the safest way is to have 25mins or so of sun then just cover up, but with kids in schools these days if you don't provide an alternative they get covered in god only knows what!
Do you mean that they'll force the child to wear sunscreen?

They request sunscreen is provided during the summer as a policy for when children play out, and apply their own if you forget. I could request none to be applied, but that'll just reduce their time out in the fresh air.



Gimpy said:
If your children are allergic to sunscreens (and I know many who are allergic to certain ingredients, like sweet almond oil and cocoa butter) finding places that stock sunblocking clothing are another option:

They're not allergic thankfully. Have had some sunblocking swim clothes when they were really young for when they were around and in water. Just glad i went that route through ease back then, and wasn't caking them in falsly advertised waterproof suncreens.


Stranger said:
If you want to use mineral containing sunblockers, those with (not nano size) zinc oxide seem to be the safest (You will find some here). And this is a review of sunscreens only with zinc oxide with some recommendations. (scroll down)

Cheers, will have a good look through that list..

Gonzo said:
I recall 15 years ago, our kids being forced the wear sunscreen at school, especially on school trips where the kids would be in the sun. I wish I knew about the benefits of the sun or the hazards of sunblock back then. I would have put something else on their skin and lied about it being sunblock.

Didn't think about using a placebo sunscreen! Might have to try that in the meantime :)

Great idea on the placebo! If the people insist on seeing a bottle just empty out the contents of the sunscreen bottle, wash it out really well then insert plain lotion. Also, I have heard from the owners of a local organic store that taking fish oil prevents sunburn. They go to Mexico regularly for vacations and never wear suncreen but take regular good-sized doses of fish oil and do not burn. Just a nice tan.


I also take fish oil, and my skin has never been so cushion, soft and resilient! Also, I'm losing my hair, not as I used to, and since taking fish oil I don't get sunburns on my scalp.
 
In the previous Bruce Fife interview I posted, he makes a very interesting (and perhaps controversial) claim about coconut oil as a sunscreen. It's around 13:00 into the segment. He said coconut oil allows the penetration of UV radiation and this in fact is a good thing...since it helps us produce vitamin D. The oil however prevents the formation of "free radicals" and that's the thing that causes sunburn and skin cancer. I have not been able to verify this and any input from a dermatologist is most welcome. Previously I had thought any UV was a bad thing.

I have continued with my own routine of daily application. Although my skin is not fair, it is very sensitive to sunlight. My system's internal feedback tells me it's working well...at least for me.
 
sitting said:
In the previous Bruce Fife interview I posted, he makes a very interesting (and perhaps controversial) claim about coconut oil as a sunscreen. It's around 13:00 into the segment. He said coconut oil allows the penetration of UV radiation and this in fact is a good thing...since it helps us produce vitamin D. The oil however prevents the formation of "free radicals" and that's the thing that causes sunburn and skin cancer. I have not been able to verify this and any input from a dermatologist is most welcome. Previously I had thought any UV was a bad thing.

I have continued with my own routine of daily application. Although my skin is not fair, it is very sensitive to sunlight. My system's internal feedback tells me it's working well...at least for me.

As a purely anecdotal addition to what you've said here, I've been using organic coconut oil on my arms and legs this year as a moisturizer, pretty much every day. I've been out in the sun my usual amount (only when necessary since I'm not a fan of heat) and my arms and legs are both noticeably more tan this year than in years past (not tan by normal standards, mind you, just not my usual 'so white it's translucent' skin!). I have wondered if it's the coconut oil, but wasn't sure how that would be possible. With what you've written, it may actually be a factor.
 
I also take fish oil, and my skin has never been so cushion, soft and resilient!
Also, I'm losing my hair, not as I used to, and since taking fish oil I don't get sunburns on my scalp.



What did the ancestors use for sun screen and skin care?

Probably not vegetable oils. Most likely it was simply tallow, grease and animal oils in general.

Wet clay, just slathered on is also an excellent sun screen.
Seems to me that using oils most like our own would have the desired effect on our skin, much more so then plant oils, since we are not plants.
A little bacon grease moisturizer to feed the skin, anyone!
 
Meager1 said:
I also take fish oil, and my skin has never been so cushion, soft and resilient!
Also, I'm losing my hair, not as I used to, and since taking fish oil I don't get sunburns on my scalp.



What did the ancestors use for sun screen and skin care?

Probably not vegetable oils. Most likely it was simply tallow, grease and animal oils in general.

Wet clay, just slathered on is also an excellent sun screen.
Seems to me that using oils most like our own would have the desired effect on our skin, much more so then plant oils, since we are not plants.
A little bacon grease moisturizer to feed the skin, anyone!

Actually from what I know, the Incas and Mayans used Jojoba Oil for their skin, also coconut and seasame oils have been used by ages as sun care. Aloe Vera is well known around to world to be one of the most shooting and moisturising plants out there for skin.
Also in some parts of Europe Olive oil was used to clean and maintain the skin healthy.
I could be wrong here, but I think the French's where the one that used animal fat boiled with other ingredients to create soap and thick creams. I have to do some research!

Does anyone remember that transcript where the C's talk about how human fat is really good for the Lizzie's skin???
 
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