Sarah Palin, the Christian Right and Fascism in America

Hildegarda said:
I just connected two and two together, apologies if this has already been mentioned: the owner of Blackwater, Eric Prince, is a Dominionist. Not only that, he is related by blood and marriage to the DeVos family, who founded Amway and have links with other prominent semi-shadowy businesses. {snip}

so basically dominionists have a whole well-trained army with gigantic budgets and zero overseeing, that's available at the moment's notice.

Yeah, it's in several of the articles we've had on sott lately.

Can we say "Brown Shirts" - or worse SS???

I know I was speculating about it back in 1985 when I wrote The Noah Syndrome, that Christianity as constituted would be the foundation of the "Empire of the Beast," but, dear god! I never envisioned it manifesting in the totally blatant and ugly way we see now. It's like people have simply gone stark, raving mad. How can any of these people even remotely consider themselves "Christian"???
 
[Off Topic?]

As for the people who call themselves Christians (or whatever),
for some strange reason, I am somehow Robert Browning's
"The Pied Piper of Hamlin"

It was the pied piper that got rid of the "rats", but also it was
The (greedy) mayor and the corporation actions and the inactions
of the people that caused the people to lose their "children"?

That's a pretty bizzare/wierd thought - but maybe I am deluded as
it's connections (if any) to this event?

Here is a cool Robert Browning site containing his book:
_http://www.indiana.edu/~librcsd/etext/piper/text.html

FWIW,
Dan
 
Laura said:
Hildegarda said:
I just connected two and two together, apologies if this has already been mentioned: the owner of Blackwater, Eric Prince, is a Dominionist. Not only that, he is related by blood and marriage to the DeVos family, who founded Amway and have links with other prominent semi-shadowy businesses. {snip}

so basically dominionists have a whole well-trained army with gigantic budgets and zero overseeing, that's available at the moment's notice.

Yeah, it's in several of the articles we've had on sott lately.

Can we say "Brown Shirts" - or worse SS???

I know I was speculating about it back in 1985 when I wrote The Noah Syndrome, that Christianity as constituted would be the foundation of the "Empire of the Beast," but, dear god! I never envisioned it manifesting in the totally blatant and ugly way we see now. It's like people have simply gone stark, raving mad. How can any of these people even remotely consider themselves "Christian"???

Yes, it's totally disheartening to see the total disintegration of any kind of intelligent thought within the populace.

It does seem that the psychopathic - Dominionistic :evil: - plan is ready for fruition. When you see just how the ponerogenic process twists and distorts all things it comes in contact with, which includes the dumbing-down, programming, HAARP/cell phone towers, and a "drug for everyone" playing with the minds of all, I guess that it is only conceivable that the sheeple will follow the "christian " crowd no matter how distorted and upside-down it is presented to them. Just as long as they are on the side of the "winners". That's all that counts. So long as they can continue in their shallow, mindless lives, well, what else is there? THEY belong on the side of God! :rolleyes:

Excuse me while I go throw up. :cry:
 
Nienna Eluch said:
It does seem that the psychopathic - Dominionistic - plan is ready for fruition

I think that it's check in the game of chess being played for control of America. Checkmate will come in a matter of time.

It will take most of America by surprise.

We're a democracy! It can't happen here! !

Except that America never was a democracy, and America never was supposed to have a large middle class.

It didn't even begin as a democracy; it began as a theocracy with Jonathon Winthrop's "We Shall be considered as a city upon a hill..."
This "City upon a hill" was not the 'Holy City' the Children of Abraham and those friends of the Puritans, the Pilgrims, were seeking. It was not the future New Jerusalem John saw coming down from heaven and fully revealed in its ultimate glory. (Rev.21) But the American Dream was certainly tapping into the energy of that sublime vision of a perfect society. The shining city they saw was nothing less than a reflection and an image of the Holy City of God.
John Winthrop (1606-1676) was one of those early English Puritans who set sail for the New World. He was a wealthy landowner who provided valuable leadership in the early days of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. He served as governor for much of its early history.

Unlike the Pilgrims, Winthrop and the other Puritans who traveled to Massachusetts were not separatists. The Puritan heart back in those former times 400 years ago, as today, was to stay with the system, to work with it, and and change it from within. Rather than trying to flee the corruptions of a wicked world the Puritans had another plan for the English colonies in the New World. They hoped to establish in New England a pure church that would offer a model for the churches in England. This, they believed, would redeem and reform their English society on both continents, and turn things around for the better. In this selection we see below, John Winthrop offers religious and economic arguments in support of moving to New England.

As we weigh the words spoken by this early Puritan leader we can readily perceive that these people were not merely a company of demoralized refugees exiting from the harsh politico-religious realities of Europe. To be sure these were people in deep spiritual agony of soul. But out of this 'angst' would come a new chapter in history. It would be a new manifestation of Israel's 'Church in the Wilderness' (Acts 7:38). And out of that travail a new nation would be born.


The New World would become more than just a Puritan retreat or stronghold. This was an entirely new land. And it was situated an ocean away from their former miseries. Their new congregational church would be the life spring of a new English colonial society. The English colonies in the new World would then provide comfort and many new opportunities for other settlers who were now beginning to arrive. Their new Christian society would also provide a wonderful way station for their fellow Christians, the Pilgrims. And those other fellow travelers, yes even the 'strangers', those godless freethinkers, would be blessed as well.

continued...


http://endtimepilgrim.org/puritans02.htm

...

'REASONS FOR THE PURITAN MIGRATION'
BY JOHN WINTHROP (1606-1676)
1. It will be a service to the Church of great consequence to carry the Gospel into those parts of the world...& to raise a Bulwark against the kingdom of AnteChrist w[hi]ch the Jesuits labour to reare up in those parts.


2. All other churches of Europe are brought to desolation, & or sins, for w[hi]ch the Lord begins already to frown upon us & to cut us short, do threaten evil times to be coming upon us, & who knows, but that God hath provided this place to be a refuge for many whom he means to save out of the general calamity, & seeing the Church hath no place left to fly into but the wilderness, what better work can there be, then to go & provide tabernacles & food for her against she comes thither:

3. This Land grows weary of her Inhabitants, so as man, who is the most precious of all creatures, is here more vile & base then the earth we tread upon, & of less price among us then an horse or a sheep: masters are forced by authority to entertain servants, parents to maintain there own children, all towns complain of the burthen of their poore, though we have taken up many unnecessary yea unlawful trades to maintain them, & we use the authority of the Law to hinder the increase of or people....

4. The whole earth is the Lords garden & he hath given it to the Sons of men wth a gen[era]l Commission: Gen: 1:28: increase & multiply, & replenish the earth & subdue it,...why then should we stand striving here for places of habitation...& in the meane time suffer a whole Continent as fruitful & convenient for the use of man to lie waste wthout any improvement?

5...all arts & Trades are carried in that deceitful & unrighteous course, as it is almost impossible for a good & upright man to maintain his charge & live comfortably in any of them.

6. The fountaine of Learning & Religion are so corrupted as...most children (even the best wittes & of fairest hopes) are perverted, corrupted, & utterly overthrown by the multitude of evil examples....

R.C. Winthrop, Life and Letters of John Winthrop (Boston, 1864), I, 309-311

http://endtimepilgrim.org/puritans02.htm


And to think that I used to stand in front of my students after teaching Arthur Millers'The Crucible about The Salem Witchcraft Trials, and say, "...And that was the end of theocracy in America."
 
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Looks like those Jehovah's Witness pictures – smiley, happy family drenched in happy sunrays and bathing in the glory of Jehovah God during Armageddon while death and destruction rains in the background and lost souls are pleading for mercy  :P

I had an email exchange with someone in the US once which caused me to do a little research on the Jehovah's Witnesses after he admitted to being one... SCARY  :/
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

Laura said:
"Wired" and "pre-programmed" as in psychopathy!

Funny that she looks a lot like the Diana character in the TV series: "V".

I also made that same connection about her looking like Diana, so I made this.
That picture will be in my nightmares tonight... : :/
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Sarah Palin: The view from Alaska


http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/11/sarah_palin_alaska/


Sarah Palin: The view from Alaska

Amid “Troopergate” and other government scandals, including killing wolf pups, an Alaskan writer explains why the Palin phenomenon rings hollow in his home state.



By Nick Jans

Oct. 11, 2008

JUNEAU, Alaska — | I sat on the bank of the Kobuk River in northwest arctic Alaska on a mid-September morning. Upstream somewhere, wolves were howling — their chorus filling the silence, close enough that I could hear the aspiration at the end of each wavering call. Behind me, the slate-gray heave of the Brooks Range spilled off toward the north, the shapes of some peaks so familiar I’ve seen them in my sleep. The nearest highway lay 250 miles away. This is the Alaska where I spent half my life, and the only place that’s ever felt like home — the land of Eskimo villages, waves of migrating caribou and seemingly limitless space.

Though I was beyond the reach of the Internet and cellphones, and life was filled with rutting bull moose, incandescent autumn light and fresh grizzly tracks, I knew that thousands of miles to the south, the rest of the country was getting a crash course on our governor, Sarah Palin — someone who believes that climate change isn’t our fault; is dead set against a woman’s right to choose; has supported creationism in the schools; and was prayed over by a visiting minister at her church to shield her against witchcraft.

How was I to explain to all my lower 48 friends and writing colleagues how such a person could have been elected to lead our state — let alone been chosen to possibly become vice-president? Truth be told, I was as startled as anyone when I heard the news. At first I thought the McCain campaign’s announcement was some sort of bad joke.

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In the broadest sense, Palin is a poseur. Alaska is too large and culturally diverse (it’s only a bit smaller than the entire lower 48 east of the Mississippi, and once was divided into four time zones) to be summed up by some abstract, romanticized notion. And even if it could be, it sure wouldn’t be symbolized by Palin. “The typical Alaskan? She couldn’t be farther from it,” says Alaska House Minority Leader Beth Kertulla.

Still, Palin is a genuine Alaskan — of a kind. The kind that flowed north in the wake of the ’70s oil boom, Bible Belt politics and attitudes under arm, and transformed this state from a free-thinking, independent bastion of genuine libertarianism and individuality into a reactionary fundamentalist enclave with dollar signs in its eyes and an all-for-me mentality.

Palin’s Alaska is embodied in Wasilla, a blue-collar, sharp-elbowed town of burgeoning big box stores, suburban subdivisions, evangelical pocket churches and car dealerships morphing across the landscape, outward from Anchorage, the state’s urban epicenter. She has lived in Wasilla practically all her life, and even now resides there, the first Alaska executive to eschew the white-pillared mansion in Juneau, down on the Southeast Panhandle.

Folks in the Mat-Su Valley, as the area is known, overwhelmingly support their favorite daughter’s policies — including a state-sanctioned program where private pilots chase down and kill wolves from small aircraft, and another that favors oil drilling offshore in the arctic sea ice and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. These same voters forage at McDonald’s and Safeway in their hunter camouflage, and make regular wilderness forays up and down the state’s limited highway grid with ATVs, snowmobiles and airboats in tow behind their oversize trucks. Sometimes I imagine I can hear the roar echoing across the state, all the way to the upper Kobuk, where easements for the highways of tomorrow are already staked out across the tundra.

Like many Alaskans, I resent Palin’s claims that she speaks for all of us, and cringe when she tosses off her stump speech line, “Well, up in Alaska, we….” Not only did I not vote for her, she represents the antithesis of the Alaska I love. As mayor, she helped shape Wasilla into the chaotic, poorly planned strip mall that it is; as governor, she’s promoted that same headlong drive toward development and despoilment on a grand scale, while paying lip service to her love of the place.

As for that frontierswoman shtick, take another look at that hairpiece-augmented beehive and those stiletto heels. Coming from a college-educated family, living in a half-million-dollar view home, basking in a net worth of $1.25 million, and having owned 40-some registered motorized vehicles in the past two decades (including 17 snowmobiles and a plane) hardly qualifies Palin and her clan as the quintessential Joe Six-Pack family unit — though the adulation from that quarter shows the Palins must be fulfilling some sort of role-model fantasy.

Palin can claim to know Alaska; the fact is, she’s seen only a minuscule fraction of it — and that doesn’t include Little Diomede Island, the one place in Alaska where you actually can see Russia. So she can ride an ATV and shoot guns. Set her down in the bush on her own and I bet we’d discover she’s about as adept at butchering a moose and building a fire at 40 below zero as she is at discussing Supreme Court decisions. And that mountain-woman act is only the tip of a hollow iceberg.

Palin, and by extension, the McCain campaign, has hijacked our state for political purposes, much to the chagrin of the tens of thousands of Alaskans who loathe what she stands for. Her much-touted popularity among residents has eroded over the past six weeks to somewhere in the mid-60s — not exactly what you’d expect in support of a home girl making a White House run.

There are no doubt a variety of reasons for this decline, but many Alaskans are embarrassed — not just by her, but for our state and for ourselves. What’s with the smug posturing, recently adopted fake Minnesota accent, and that gosh-darn-it hockey mom pitch? Maybe it plays well in Peoria (and presumably Duluth), but it’s all an act. “She’s definitely put on a new persona since she’s been a vice-presidential candidate,” says Kertulla, who has worked closely with Palin for the past 18 months. “I don’t even recognize her.”

Affectations aside, there’s plenty about Palin we Alaskans do recognize, and all too well. She’s already proven to us that her promises of transparent government, attendant to the will of the people, are bear pucky. We know about her private e-mail accounts and her systematic obstruction of the Alaska Legislature’s investigation of the so-called Troopergate scandal. But let’s turn to her environmental record, where a similar pattern of obfuscation continues.

First, Palin pushed hard, along with sport hunting and guiding interests, to help defeat a ballot initiative that would have stopped the state’s current aerial wolf control program, which had been criticized by the National Academy of Sciences and the National Research Council for flawed science. Now her administration has pointedly refused to respond to repeated public information requests (I’m one of the petitioners, and a potential litigant), regarding the apparently illegal killing of 14 wolf pups at their dens on the Alaska Peninsula this spring by state personnel, including two high-level Department of Fish and Game administrators. A biologist at the scene admitted to an independent wolf scientist that the 6-week-old pups were held down and shot in the head, one by one. This inhumane practice, known as “denning,” has been illegal for 40 years. But a simple request for information on the details of this operation, including to what extent the governor was involved in the decision, has resulted in a typical Palinesque roadblock and a string of untruths.

Our I-love-Alaska governor was also instrumental in defeating a ballot initiative to stop development of a gargantuan open-pit mine incongruously known as Pebble near the headwaters of the most productive salmon watershed in the state, Bristol Bay. The current mine design calls for building the world’s largest earthen dam to hold back an enormous lake of toxic waste — this in a known earthquake zone. Crazy stuff, yet Palin openly opposed the initiative, in lock step with international mining corporations that invested millions of dollars in a misinformation campaign.

But Palin’s certified anti-environmental whopper is her lawsuit against the Bush administration (of all outfits) for listing polar bears as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. She claimed Alaska’s own experts had completed a review of the federal data and concluded that the listing was uncalled for. The truth was, state biologists had come to the opposite conclusion. But that report was never released, and her researchers had a gag clamped on them. Palin simply didn’t want anything to get in the way of offshore oil drilling in moving pack ice — where there is no way to contain, let alone clean up, catastrophic spills.

Whenever science or rules get in Palin’s way, she blows them off. Says homesteader Mark Richards, co-founder of the Alaska Chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (a moderate conservation group), “Palin, like Governor Murkowski before her, is part and parcel of the good-ol-boy network that says, ‘Alaska is open for business.’”

Want to talk to Sarah? As governor, she has been accessible only on her carefully chosen terms, a trend we’re now witnessing on the national stage. And how about those Katie Couric moments when she drifts just a skosh off a well-rehearsed script? Are those a recent phenomenon, brought on by all this new information, pressure and the liberal-gotcha media? Nah. She’s been spouting “political gibberish” (to quote gubernatorial opponent Andrew Halcro) since she arrived on the Alaska scene. Yet somehow she continues to get away with it.

In the end, Palin’s attempt to cash in on the Eau d’Alaska mystique as she supports its destruction sickens those of us who do love this land, not for what it will be some day, after the roads and mines and pipelines and cities and malls are all in, but for what it is now. What we see before us is the soul of an ambitious, ruthless, Parks Highway hillbilly — a woman who represents the Alaska you probably never want to meet, and the one we wish never existed. That said, we’re all too willing to take her back. The alternative is just too damn frightening.
 
Cruel Sarah Palin Slaughter of Alaska Wolves


Cruel Sarah Palin Slaughter of Alaska Wolves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_N5UiTCk8
 
Salon said:
Palin can claim to know Alaska; the fact is, she’s seen only a minuscule fraction of it — and that doesn’t include Little Diomede Island, the one place in Alaska where you actually can see Russia.

Ha! There goes her Foreign Policy argument! :ban:
 
Uh oh. The MSM is talking about something called the Bradley Effect:

Wikipedia said:
The Bradley effect, less commonly called the Wilder effect,[1] is a proposed explanation for a discrepancy between voter opinion polls and election outcomes in American political campaigns when a white candidate and a non-white candidate run against each other.[2][3][4] Named for Tom Bradley, an African-American who lost the 1982 California governor's race despite being ahead in some voter polls, the Bradley effect refers to an alleged tendency on the part of some voters to tell pollsters that they are undecided or likely to vote for a black candidate, and yet, on election day, vote for his/her white opponent.

This basically negates the polls accuracy and gives McCain the excuse he needs to plausibly steal the election.

:(:thdown:
 
Kesdjan said:
Uh oh. The MSM is talking about something called the Bradley Effect:

The Bradley effect, less commonly called the Wilder effect,[1] is a proposed explanation for a discrepancy between voter opinion polls and election outcomes in American political campaigns when a white candidate and a non-white candidate run against each other.

Not necessarily. They are also talking about "the reverse Bradley effect":

The Bradley effect--a black politician doing well in the polls but badly in the actual election--has been much discussed but there is little data on how it would work this year. Now a team of researchers from the University of Washington has analyzed the data from the 32 Democratic primaries this tear and come to a surprising conclusion. The effect existed in California, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island, but a reverse effect existed in 12 other states, largely in the Southeast. Obama did better in the elections there than in the polls leading up to them. Researchers speculate that some people may tend to give pollsters the "socially correct" answer and in the Southeast, supporting the white person is socially correct. But this is just one study. Don't take it too seriously.

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Hildegarda said:
Not necessarily.  They are also talking about "the reverse Bradley effect":

:lol:  Good catch - amazing the vast cast of characters and twisting plot lines in this national theatre...  truly a story to appeal to everyone out there.  And when the selection is complete, the sleeping masses will mostly shrug and move along - some may actually be very angry this time though, which - again - might be 'interesting'. 
 
Nina said:
I also made that same connection about her looking like Diana, so I made this.

I'd like it a lot better if you put the bottom image of Sarah where the image of Diana is and just get rid of the Diana image.
 

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