Sarah Palin, the Christian Right and Fascism in America

Re: The Kosherization of Sarah Palin

Palin Media Avoidance Watch: Day 9 -- McCain Camp Says She Won't Do Interviews Until It Knows She'll Be Treated with "Deference"

September 07, 2008 9:41 AM

Rick Davis, campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., just told Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that McCain running mate Gov. Sarah Palin won't subject herself to any tough questions from reporters "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference."

_http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/palin-media-a-2.html
 
Re: The Kosherization of Sarah Palin

GRiM said:
Palin Media Avoidance Watch: Day 9 -- McCain Camp Says She Won't Do Interviews Until It Knows She'll Be Treated with "Deference"

September 07, 2008 9:41 AM

Rick Davis, campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., just told Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that McCain running mate Gov. Sarah Palin won't subject herself to any tough questions from reporters "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference."

_http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/palin-media-a-2.html


She is obviously a very special person. :thdown:

I can't help but think that she is being schooled in just what to say and how to react to questions by reporters and such.

Gotta really learn what mask to where and when, ya know.

:ninja: :grad: :curse: :guru: :wizard: :evil: :halo:

:rolleyes:
 
deep level punctuator

Hi,

Just a thought about Sarah Palin and her recent nomination for Vice President. Please read the C's quote from 17 Aug 03 from the post by Vulcan 59 called "C's Transcript After 28th Sept 02".


Q: (A) I still want to know who or what is setting or popping these programs [this question was at the end of a discussion of various "agents" that were obviously sent in to destroy our lives and work, one of which was active at that moment, putting us in grave danger.]

A: Remember Carissas' story? It points to the source. Aided by 4D influences of course. [This story was about so-called "abductions" and programming going on in a military context though disguised as "alien."]

Q: (L) Wow, that rhymes! (S) So is Mossad part of that?

A: Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.

Q: (JH) What's the relationship between the Mossad and the Rothschilds?

A: Mossad is a "brainchild."

(Laughter at the joke)

[Discussion as to whether the Rothchilds are part of the apex or if they are just useful idiots that are going to be double-crossed also. C's break in as Laura is saying she doesn't understand.]

A: The lines blur. Rothchilds are similar in a smaller way to Sargon. Deep level punctuator.

Q: (L) What is a deep level punctuator?

A: One who emerges from seeming obscurity to "make a mark" on history. Don't you wonder where they come from? Think "deep."

Q: As in underground bases?

A: Well, what a concept!


Probably a bit of a stretch at the moment, but maybe not if she gets elected...?
 
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Interesting issue, indeed. And Hitler was just such an individual also... Napoleon, etc. I'm sure we could come up with a list.

On Palin, I came across the article below. Maybe these people are white supremacists? A couple of odd things stand out
in this story:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/west/view.bg?articleid=1088213&srvc=home&position=active

Alaska governor gives birth to 5th child, a boy named Trig

JUNEAU, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin gave birth yesterday to her fifth child, a boy, about a month before her due date.

Trig Paxson Van Palin weighed 6 pounds, 2 ounces. A news release from Palin’s office says the 44-year-old governor and the baby are doing well and resting comfortably.

"Trig is beautiful and already adored by us," the Palin family said in a statement. "We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives."

Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow would not elaborate on the special challenges. She said the governor would talk with reporters early next week.

The governor went into labor Thursday while in Texas at an energy conference. Her contractions let up enough for her to fly home on Alaska Airlines to deliver her baby in Alaska, Leighow said.

The name Trig is a Norse word meaning "true" and "brave victory," Leighow said. Paxson is an area of Alaska that both Palin and her husband, Todd, feel is "one of the most beautiful spots in Alaska," she added.

Palin earlier joked about naming the baby Van Palin after the ’80s rock group Van Halen.

The governor was scheduled to sign a bill on Saturday at the Lions Convention in Anchorage allowing for the redistribution of used eyeglasses. Palin will sign the bill without attending the event, she said.

"Until yesterday we were planning bill signings, and then the governor gives birth," Leighow said. "I think it caught everyone off guard."

Palin and her husband have four other children: a son, Track, 18, and three daughters, Bristol, 17, Willow, 13 and Piper, 7.

During her pregnancy, Palin modeled for the fashion magazine Vogue.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift was the nation’s first governor to give birth while in office. She had twin girls in May 2001.

A NORSE word? You don't say. As in Nordic... Aryan... White supremacists??? Neo-Nazis?

Then there is this:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/165073-Palin-s-Church-May-Have-Shaped-Controversial-Worldview

Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview

Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said. [...]

But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode." [...]

Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. "Having grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special place," she told the congregation in June. "What comes from this church I think has great destiny." [...]

During the 2004 election season, [Pastor Kalnins] praised President Bush's performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate preferences. "I'm not going tell you who to vote for, but if you vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I'm sorry." Kalnins added: "If every Christian will vote righteously, it would be a landslide every time."

Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was receiving over the federal government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. "I hate criticisms towards the President," he said, "because it's like criticisms towards the pastor -- it's almost like, it's not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for hell. That's what it'll get you."

Much of his support for the current administration has come in the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a "world war" over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.

What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's loving all the time and he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is -- but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.

As for his former congregant and current vice presidential candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin's election as governor was the result of a "prophetic call" by another pastor at the church who prayed for her victory. "[He made] a prophetic declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know." [...]

In his sermons, Pastor Kalnins has also expressed beliefs that, while not directly political, lie outside of mainstream Christian thought.

He preaches repeatedly about the "end times" or "last days," an apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he declared, "I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to minister to them." [...]

So, all of that is disturbing enough... BUT... then, there is a little clip from another C's session:

December 03, 1994
Minneapolis banking scandal relates to mysterious Nordic covenant.
Evangelical sexual tryst exposed.
Next, you have to consider Palin's support of the Alaska Independence Party which is diametrically opposed to the the GOP's slogan this year of "Country First."

A quote from one of the founders of the party, Joe Volger, right on the front page of the AIP's website (akip.org):
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

I bet if we pull on some threads of this gang, we'd end up with a neo-nazi or two. She attended college for two semesters in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho - which is known for white supremacists. Another of her schools: North Idaho College (now University of Idaho) has the 'Vandals" as a mascot... detail provided by a sott editor:

Good ole Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandals

The Vandals were an East Germanic [Teutonics!] tribe that
entered the late Roman Empire during the 5th century. The
Goth Theodoric the Great, king of the Ostrogoths and regent
of the Visigoths, was allied by marriage with the Vandals as
well as with the Burgundians and the Franks under Clovis I.

The Vandals are perhaps best known for their sack of Rome in
455. Although they were not notably more destructive than
others, the high regard in which later European cultures
came to hold ancient Rome led to the association of the name
of the tribe with persons who cause senseless destruction,
particularly in diminution of aesthetic appeal or
destruction of objects that were completed with great
effort.
[...]

Another of the sott editors reports:

_
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3591532,00.html

One of the comments on Ynet Hebrew version of the story was
that she probably hung this flag 5 min before the interview and took
it off 5 min after.

"When asked about Palin's past support of Pat Buchanan, whose
anti-Israeli views are common knowledge, Frank said that Palin's
support of Buchanan stemmed from his positions in other issues, and
that she did not agree with his views of Israel.

"She had an Israeli flag, of all the things, mounted on her office
wall, and I have that on film" he said. "I was very surprised to see
that and when I asked her about it, she said that she loves Israel and
the she had friends who visited the country and brought her the flag."

Obviously, I'm not the only one smelling something Neo-Nazi about this woman.

A video on youtube of Palin addressing the AIP at the start of their convention, in case there was any doubt she supports them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

She talks about her son, deployed in Iraq for "God's mission" and about his tattoos (one of Jesus fish and one with the map of Alaska)...

Then, there is this story: _http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/111944/3298/497/583255

Sarah Palin: Separatist, former mayor of a village, and a wannabe book-burner:

[Former Wasilla mayor John Stein] says that as mayor, Palin continued
to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the
library how she could go about banning books,"
he says, because some
voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian
was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for
comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened
to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor.


Here's one of those news reports from 1997:

City librarian Mary Ellen Emmons [Baker] will stay, but Police Chief
Irl Stambaugh is on his own, Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin announced
Friday. The decision came one day after letters signed by Palin were
dropped on Stambaugh's and Emmon's desks, telling them their jobs were
over as of Feb. 13.

[...]

Both Stambaugh and Emmons [Baker] publicly supported Palin's opponent,
long-time mayor John Stein during the campaign last fall. When she was
elected, Palin questioned their loyalty and initially asked for their
resignations. But Stambaugh said he thought any questions had been
resolved

Putting it simply, Sarah Palin's idea of executive leadership involves
firing the people you perceive as non-supporters, and outright abuse
of power.


If she were vice-president, would she call up librarians around the
country and dictate to them? Would she invade our privacy like that?
Try to equalize everyone by telling us what we can and cannot have in
our libraries?

Finally, a quote. From Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451:

We must all be alike. Not everyone born free and equal, as the
Constitution says, but everyone made equal... A book is a loaded gun
in the house next door. Burn it. Take the shot from the weapon. Breach
man's mind.

As I continued to think about this woman and look at what was on the web - and noticing that things were already being scrubbed - it just gave me the creeps. I asked myself: is it really just a question of John McCain being so stupid and arrogant (and his handlers, too) that they would pull a stunt like this and bring down their party? Or, is it more of the circus that is designed to make the whole country so sick of politics that they will welcome a dictator? Or is it just distraction from other evil doings worldwide?

Or all of the above, or something else???

And when I got to the "something else" question, THIS is what came to mind, a HORRIBLE thought:

What if THIS time, "Hitler" is a woman???

Another of the sott editors produced the following:

Looking up the name meaning of Palin

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=p&p=1

related to palin "again, backwards,"
from palin "again" (see palindrome)
from palin "again, back"
from palin "again, back"

http://www.britishsurnames.co.uk/surnames/PALIN/meaning

1. Welsh: Anglicized form of the Welsh patronymic ap Heilyn `son of
Heilyn', which is probably a derivative of a word meaning `to serve at
table'.

Then we have McCain - Cain

What strikes me is that her blue-collar roots will make voters flock to her (as if voters even matter). Then, a lot of women will support her because she is a woman and they are stupid. Finally, she'll get a lot of sympathy votes because the dems are attacking her like crazy.

I'm even thinking that in spite of how stupid it looks, it could very well have been pure 4 D genius that she was chosen. It's NOT going to be perceived as a negative when they talk about McCain kicking the bucket and a woman getting to be president thereby. A lot of people will hear that and say "Yeah!"

Now, of course, that he has the nomination, we see McCain distancing himself from Bush... doesn't need the help anymore. And with a covert white supremacist agenda that may come out - don't forget the "Nordic Covenant" thing that could be in play here - things could get dangerous fast.

And then, Joe Quinn provided the last piece of the puzzle to make it clear:

Well, let's not lose sight of the fact that the election will very
likely be rigged via Diebold. So perhaps the choice of McCain/Palin as
"winners" has already been made, but what is needed beforehand is a
plausible reason that can be dispensed afterwards, explaining how in the
hell the pro war McCain/Palin could have won against nominally less pro
war Obama in a country that is sick to the back teeth of Bush's 8 long
years of warmongering - hence Palin as McCain's running mate and the
plausible explanation, after they "win", that "millions of women flocked to her".

No one clue is enough on its own, but all together, it paints a portrait of the epitome of the destructive face of the goddess which America (and the rest of the world that has sat by and done nothing to contain the threat) has chosen to witness/experience. We are in deep doo...

Xman said:
I think I see Hitler in there somewhere.
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Re: deep level punctuator

aaron reibelt said:
Q: (L) What is a deep level punctuator?

A: One who emerges from seeming obscurity to "make a mark" on history. Don't you wonder where they come from? Think "deep."

Q: As in underground bases?

A: Well, what a concept!

Probably a bit of a stretch at the moment, but maybe not if she [Sarah Palin] gets elected...?


Laura said:
Interesting issue, indeed. And Hitler was just such an individual also... Napoleon, etc. I'm sure we could come up with a list.

Tony Blair? He certainly 'popped up' from nowhere - Just as Labour were on the point of getting elected to overthrow the Conservatives, the popular Labour leader John Smith died suddenly, and Tony Blair, who no-one knew anything about, steamed in out of nowhere and magicked himself into position as Prime Minister. And now look at him.
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

If elected, I think Palin will make Condoleeza Rice look like a great humanitarian.

Just when you think it can't get worse -- it does.... :scared:
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

PepperFritz said:
If elected, I think Palin will make Condoleeza Rice look like a great humanitarian.

Just when you think it can't get worse -- it does.... :scared:

Yeah. Condi - as evil as she is - isn't looking so bad right now.

This woman, Sarah Palin, is Nefertiti / Helen reincarnated - the destroyer of the ancient world, the reason all women were reduced to chattel, the landscape in which Judaic monotheism - the scourge of our civilization - was born.
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

It is interesting how many women I know already like Palin. My mother-in-law, 2 sisters, friends have already said they love her! They're definitely voting for McCain now. And this, only after watching her speak at the R convention. Why? "I just really think she's a straight shooter, a normal person. She's one of us."

I say, excuse me, I need to go vomit.

This is a slick set-up.
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

Kel said:
It is interesting how many women I know already like Palin. My mother-in-law, 2 sisters, friends have already said they love her! They're definitely voting for McCain now. And this, only after watching her speak at the R convention. Why? "I just really think she's a straight shooter, a normal person. She's one of us."

I say, excuse me, I need to go vomit.

This is a slick set-up.

Yes, unfortunately, we can see how all the dumbing-down of the US is paying off handsomely right now. Everyone would rather take things at face value than to research just what is being found out about her. And, then, blindly defend her when the dirt comes out.

Geesh! Talk about your brainwashing. It looks like the fluoridation process was a success, too.
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

Laura said:
This woman, Sarah Palin, is Nefertiti / Helen reincarnated

"Sarai" Palin could be Sarah reincarnated too ;)
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

I think she makes a great distraction white supremacist or not.... :(

I think it would be erroneous to assume that the PTB have not 'bought out' the opposition (i.e. the Democrats) as well, and they all are looking pretty similar these days. In a real nighmare scenario I can "see" Joe Biden as President and Sarah Palin as VP. I wonder if that's possible?
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

jeff said:
Laura said:
This woman, Sarah Palin, is Nefertiti / Helen reincarnated

"Sarai" Palin could be Sarah reincarnated too ;)

Yup. Goes without saying (well, anyway, I thought so) because of this:

18 March 2000

Q: I do want to ask about this head of Tutankhamen: why was his head so extremely elongated, as well as the heads of the other members of that family?
A: Trace gene.
Q: Where did the trace gene come from?
A: Last "call."
Q: The last visit of the Nephilim?
A: Close enough.
Q: Did the gene come through Ankhenamen or Nefertiti?
A: One sound like nephilim, or your "Nefilim."
Q: So, Nefertiti. Where did Nefertiti come from? She is a BIG mystery. I had been formulating the idea that she was Sarai, the wife of Abraham, and the whole story about the pharaoh of Egypt stealing Abraham's wife and this caused an "affliction" was really the story of the marriage of Nefertiti to Ankhenaten and explained his peculiar physical characteristics. Supposedly Abraham's wife was very beautiful, and the name "Nefertiti" is supposed to mean "A Beautiful Woman Has Come," and that sort of fits. Nobody seems to know where she came from... or who she was. Then, she disappeared from history; nobody has ever found her body or the body of Ankhenaten. It's just such a big mystery. Where did she come from?
A: We will let you search some more.
Q: So, I guess that means I will figure it out from clues yet to be found.

20 August 01

Q: All right, first question is, what is the origin of the Levites?
A: Hittites Moon Worshippers.
Q: Well, before the Hittites became Hittites, what were they?
A: Indo-europeans.
Q: What was the source of the Indo-europeans?
A: Aryan sub-race.
Q: Is there any other group the Aryans mixed with to produce the Indo-Europeans?
A: Fourth Density genetic tweak.
Q: Was Abraham a Levite?
A: Yes.
Q: Was Sarah Nefertiti?
A: Yes.
Q What was the reason for the strange skull shape of Nefertiti and her family?
A: Genetic tweak.
Q: Was this 4th density genetic tweak done by STS of STO?
A: STS
Q: If the Levites were the Hittite Moon worshippers, how come Akhenaten, who hung out with Nefertiti, instituted Sun worship? That doesn't make sense.
A: Future Ho into.
Q: Future what into?
A: Ho.
Q: HO must stand for something. I don't understand. Was Nefertiti responsible for Akhenaten's Sun worship?
A: Mostly.
Q: Well why did it turn into Sun worship instead of Moon worship?
A: Future honor of Ra. Go 353535. Deity.
Q: So in other words they were laying a foundation for future layering of other concepts?
A: Yes.

23 August 01

Q: (L) Well, it seems that Nefertiti disappeared from history in the 12th year of the reign of Akhenaten. He then died in the 17th year of his reign. If Nefertiti was Sarah, where was she during this five year period, if Akhenaten died going after her when Abraham/Moses carried her off?
A: Locked up.
Q: (L) So, Nefertiti is Sarah and Abraham came and rescued her somehow, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And that happened at the time of the passage of the comet cluster, between 1627 BC and 1588 BC - dramatic events which is what enabled that particular drama to take place...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So Abraham retrieved Sarah and Akhenaten went after them and drowned in the river or something?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, from 1627 BC to 1588 BC - that's 39 years - almost exactly 40 years of "wandering in the desert," so to say. So they must have escaped when Thera blew and forty years later, the comets came. What was Abraham and his crew doing during that time?
A: Bedouins.
Q: (L) How many were in this tribe?
A: 623.
Q: (L) So it wasn't multiple thousands of people as the Bible would have us believe. Okay, is Abraham the same individual as is presented as his son, Isaac?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Sarah, known to the Egyptians as Nefertiti, give birth to a child when she was 90 years old?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Sarah the mother of Isaac?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why did Abraham want to sacrifice his son?
A: Did not happen.
Q: (L) Who was Hagar the Egyptian?
A: Princess of Egypt.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's maid?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's daughter?
A: Right nurture to.
Q: (L) What do you mean? I don't understand.
A: Sara's daughter by Akhenaten.
Q: (L) Did Abraham have a child by Hagar also, his wife's daughter by another man?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, that's pretty incestuous. Did Sarah actually get so jealous of her own daughter's child that she demanded that Abraham abandon her?
A: Close.
Q: (L) When did this tribe finally arrive in Israel and settle down. Was this after 40 years living as Bedouins?
A: Pretty much.
[...]

Q: (L) Did they, or did they not, have the Ark of the Covenant? Was this given to this group of people by 4th density?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Who was it originally given to?
A: Abraham.
Q: (L) Who gave it to him?
A: Sara.
Q: (L) Is the story of Rachel stealing the household gods from her father may have really been the story of Sara stealing the Ark from Akhenaten?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) No wonder Akhenaten was hot to follow them. He wasn't after Sara, he wanted his Ark back.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who gave the Ark to Akhenaten?
A: STS 4th Density.

2 February 03

Q: (H) Well, we got that part right. (L) Once before we discussed Nefertiti and Sarah being one and the same person. We have now been discussing the idea, based on some significant clues in ancient documents, that this individual was also Helen of Troy. Is this, in fact, a useful idea to follow? Is it a correct assessment of the clues?
A: Indeed!
Q: (L) That would mean that, according to the story, that Paris/Alexander would be the same individual as Abraham and that Herodotus' story of Paris and Helen sojourning in Egypt was true?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) We have the brother issue to deal with. We have Abraham and his nephew, Lot. Then we have Moses and Aaron, Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael. Were all of these sets of brothers just different aspects or views on the same stories, a set of singular individuals, whether brothers or not?
A: Pretty much though with added elements from other stories blended in.
Q: (L) Was it a brother/brother relationship as in actual brothers?
A: No. The "brother" relationship was created to legitimize a "false" line of transmission.
Q: (L) So there wasn't a brother, or Aaronic relationshp present, assuming any part of that story was true. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) One aspect of the variation on the story was that Jacob gave his brother, Esau, the 'blessing' and some 'gift.' Does this reflect an accurate part of the story that Moses, in his form as Jacob, passed something on to someone elses - something that was important?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it Moses/Abraham who was doing this?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who did he pass it on to?
A: It was finally understood by "Moses" that the danger of the object was greater than the ability of descendants to resist corruption. He handed it over to those who had created it.
Q: (H) Was it STS or STO forces that created it?
A: STS.
Q: (H) So, the Ark was an object created by STS. Did this amount to some sort of realization on Moses' part? Did he start to wake up?
A: Yes. The story of the "contending with the angel" was the significant turning point as well as the moment of return.
Q: (L) What was the blessing he gave to quote Esau, if giving the object to the "angel" was the event of returning the ark? What was the story there?
A: Two separate events.
Q: (L) So, he returned the ark to the so-called angel. And then, he gave something to someone else. Previously, when I asked about this, you said that what he gave to Esau was "trampled leaves of wrath, the blue apples incarnate," and remarked that I should inquire into the "core meaning."
A: And who was "Kore?"
Q: (L) Was this Abraham's daughter?
A: It was the last living member of the Perseid family.
Q: (L) Was it a male or female?
A: Female.
Q: (L) And how did Abraham come to be in possession of this female?
A: Search the text and you will see.
Q: (H) If this person was the last member of the Perseid family, does that mean that Paris was a member of this family?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was this person someone who was part of Abraham's group because he kidnapped her?
A: That is going in the right direction, though not quite that simple.
Q: (H) They are saying that this was a female who was kidnapped? Could it be Helen?
A: No!
Q: (L) Previously we were told that Helen was a genetically tweaked Hittite. Were her parents anybody who would be familiar to us outside of mythology?
A: No.
Q: (L) So her parentage was strictly mythical. Was she a member of any esteemed family or royal family along that line as has been claimed?
A: Here also you will make a discovery.
Q: (L) Going back to this person - the last living member of the Perseid family - who was handed over by Abraham in his Jacob persona to someone else, who was this person handed over to and why?
A: For protection from the fury of "Helen."
Q: (L) So, there is a reflection of that in the story of Hagar the Egyptian. Who was she handed over to?
A: The "Dragon Slayers."
Q: (L) You mentioned before that Helen/Nefertiti/Sarah was locked up by Akhenaten. Why, specifically, was she locked up?
A: He became unable to function and the action was taken by others.
Q: (L) Did Akhenaten go mad as I have surmised?
A: Pretty much.
Q: (L) Did he fall in the Nile and get eaten by a crocodile as the story about one pharaoh suggests?
A: No Crocodile.
Q: So, he just fell in and drowned?
A: More like he was "helped."
Q: (L) Sounds to me like this poor guy was just a patsy all around.
A: Yup.
Q: The story about the plague that is told in Manetho, was this a plague as in leprosy, a disease, or something else?
A: It was multiple elements including leprosy.
Q: (L) What were these different elements?
A: Consider the writings about cometary showers.
Q: (L) Was any of this radiation sickness from being around the ark as we have surmised?
A: Not so much since it was kept contained.
Q: (L) Did Helen/Nefertit/Sarah get some sort of sickness that contributed to the necessity of locking her up?
A: No, in fact it was the fact that she did not get sick that made her the object of suspicion.
Q: (L) So, she didn't get leprosy. That means that Miriam was not part of the Helen/Nefertiti/Sarah element, is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was Helen from Argo?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was someone from Argo?
A: Yes.
Q: [Laughter.] (L) Well, I mean involved in this particular story.
A: Oh, indeed, and that may be an important clue!

And, by the way, yeah, I have found a ton of clues in some serious scholarly literature and the "smoking gun" is actually in the Amarna letters - a letter from the king of Mitanni to Akhenaten's father, Amenophis III.
 
Re: deep level punctuator

[quote author=Cs]

A: Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.

Q: (JH) What's the relationship between the Mossad and the Rothschilds?

A: Mossad is a "brainchild."

(Laughter at the joke)

[Discussion as to whether the Rothchilds are part of the apex or if they are just useful idiots that are going to be double-crossed also. C's break in as Laura is saying she doesn't understand.]

A: The lines blur. Rothchilds are similar in a smaller way to Sargon. Deep level punctuator.

Q: (L) What is a deep level punctuator?

A: One who emerges from seeming obscurity to "make a mark" on history. Don't you wonder where they come from? Think "deep."

Q: As in underground bases?

A: Well, what a concept![/quote]

Lets not forget that the Rothschilds already put their bet on McCain:

McCain accused of accepting improper donations from Rothschilds

And those guys are not known for making bad investments.
 
Re: deep level punctuator

Windmill knight said:
Lets not forget that the Rothschilds already put their bet on McCain:

McCain accused of accepting improper donations from Rothschilds

And those guys are not known for making bad investments.

Indeed. Did you hear about Rotschild banks getting hit by the subprime crisis ? I didn't so far.

On the contrary Rotschild private bank released its consolidated semi annual results on June 30th 2008 and stated :

SUBPRIME CRISIS
Thanks to our cautious investment policy, the Group and its customers did not experience any losses directly
attributable to the US subprime debacle or to the credit and liquidity crisis.


HIGH QUALITY MANAGEMENT
The quality of our management was recognised when the Group was declared best fund of hedge funds manager for 2007 at the sixth annual InvestHedge Awards in New York.
LCF Edmond de Rothschild α uncorrelated (EUR) was voted best fund over 5 years in the Euro category as part of the Banco Hedge Fund Awards.
LCF Edmond de Rothschild Prifund Bond A cap (CHF) won Lipper Fund Awards as the best fund over 3 and 5 years in the category of Swiss-franc bonds.
 
Re: Sarah Palin Discussion - Deep Level Punctuator?

I bet if we pull on some threads of this gang, we'd end up with a neo-nazi or two. She attended college for two semesters in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho - which is known for white supremacists. Another of her schools: North Idaho College (now University of Idaho) has the 'Vandals" as a mascot... detail provided by a sott editor:


Quote
Good ole Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandals

The Vandals were an East Germanic [Teutonics!] tribe that
entered the late Roman Empire during the 5th century. The
Goth Theodoric the Great, king of the Ostrogoths and regent
of the Visigoths, was allied by marriage with the Vandals as
well as with the Burgundians and the Franks under Clovis I.

The Vandals are perhaps best known for their sack of Rome in
455. Although they were not notably more destructive than
others, the high regard in which later European cultures
came to hold ancient Rome led to the association of the name
of the tribe with persons who cause senseless destruction,
particularly in diminution of aesthetic appeal or
destruction of objects that were completed with great
effort.
[...]
Small correction since I'm sort of from that "neck of the woods": North Idaho College is a small community college in Coeur d'Alene, always has been NIC to my knowledge. It only offers associate degrees. (More suited for a former beauty queen contestant ;D ?)

The University of Idaho is in Moscow, where I lived and went to college at one time. It was founded in the late 1800's, and their mascot is the Vandals. They offer bachelor and master degrees. It's about a 2 hour drive south from Coeur d'Alene. NIC does partner with the University of Idaho, Lewis-Clark State College, and Idaho State University to supplement it's associate degrees, but otherwise is not affiliated.

There is however an enclave of white supremists that live in Hayden Lake, north of Coeur d'Alene, and although they've fizzled out in the last 10 years, I believe they were quite active at the time that S. Palin would have gone to school there. The city of Coeur d'Alene has become quite intolerant of the Aryan Nations group in recent years. Their leader, Richard Butler lost the compound years ago, then died. I've heard they've moved there "headquarters" to South Carolina.
 

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