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Wanted to know if this is workable or useful?

Another Perspective:

Quantum approach is expanding by the thrust of the consciousness field. That mater by itself is of no creating factor or design, shape, or manifestation and only when consciousness or infinite intelligence become a fundamental abstract to it does matter thrust out into expression. You can think of the interaction between consciousness and matter like a living person that when the soul (consciousness) leaves so will the body/matter decomposes and dissipate where it can become a declining/degenerating living source as that of dirt or food for bugs or microbes.

Thus the less consciousness a matter has or an atom the less magnificent it will be in comparison to say a rock compared to a creature thus both have consciousness but of two different measure of life force or consciousness. We can say that matter and space together is time and consciousness is timeless both together creates a space of time or space time continuum, it continues by the field of consciousness that consciousness is timeless and has “always been”!
In which consciousness provides matter to continue and the interaction between consciousness gravity (binder) and matter creates the space to do it in. Space-time continuum.
So therefore space or distant and time are both illusions and only pure consciousness “is” “real”, objective, “ever and ever” always, has, will and be! You can say everything is here and nowhere at the same time “all” but cannot be perceived by our dense consciousness’ or the fact that at the present we are more dominated by matter than consciousness but nonetheless we are consciousness although at a lower state a 3rd density state. And dense to an effect of only perceiving 3 dimensions. This might throw out the god particle theory.

We can also say that consciousness “is” while matter is an illusion or a lesser degree reflection only when consciousness is emanating in it. Thus matter considered an illusion because without this life force or consciousness it wouldn’t exist or in actuality doesn’t exist but respectfully considered a mask of reality or a subjective incomplete expression of consciousness (objectivity). Thus we can say that pure consciousness is God or infinite intelligence, creator or prime creator of that which it knows what it will create through matter or with matter by its results of manifestations. Thus a whole universe or even multiple universes and densities and dimensions can exist in it lets say for the purpose of an ever expanding creation we might say what separates one dimension from the rest or density from another is the amount of consciousness that chose to express itself in it. We might even suppose that what seems real in this reality can be contradicted rightly by another dimension and always will escape our logic implanted in us from the reality we exist in and thus an expanded reality of perceiving another dimension will escape us by the other dimensional laws of other possibilities.

What hinders one from observing the other demission’s or even density is our limited perception. “Like can only be grasp and understood by like”, that is before we can know of another we must first not think what is possible according to our own environmental laws which mirrors back its own limitations at least in comparisons to the whole or a higher dimension. That we cannot bring the big into the small but by our seeking to expand our perception by awareness (consciousness) of what we can imagine to be possible with measured doses of perceivable probabilities.

We may think that humans are disconnected from the source in such a way that we are not united with the whole by our own perception but not by the perception of consciousness itself. Also there is no end to the possibility to creation thus even humans or life within the human family can yield lower or higher levels of awareness by each existing person.

Possibly imagination with discipline or scientific experimental discernment is a window to understand consciousness. That imagination does not abide by any rules or laws it is not stationary although if given free reign can lead us into wishful-thinking and we lose ourselves in illusions (created lies) and not reality or what is true by exacting experimental testing of what yields fruits/results.





“Quantum mechanics deals primarily with the sub-microscopic world of elementary particles. It is based upon probabilities of events taking place non-deterministically, rather than a deterministically known state, which can be calculated using the classical equations of motion. When you have an infinite number of possible states, any of which can be solutions within certain boundary conditions, you run into certain problems when you try to transfer these concepts to classical realities. The state vector is the collection of all possible pre-collapse states and represents the system in which the event exists in all states simultaneously. Once the event happens, or what is called “measurement” occurs, the system collapses the state vector into a single, probabilistically determined state. Until this collapse occurs, the state vector that has developed in time deterministically specifies the system collectively.”
And rightfully so because again quantum mechanics is truly no-existent and existing at the same time because time does not apply to it.
When an observer views a particle in observation and by the perceivers measured consciousness will only reflect back in free-will or by hindrance of bias beliefs that manifestation or the particles ability to mirror the perceivers assumptions, anticipation (subjectivity or the perceivers objectivity (free-will). The perceiver gives the amount of space to the particle to create. We might even say to view a particle as it views itself give the particle free-will to be anything imaginable.

Biorhythms: consciousness, gravitation (binder) matter opens up a space time continuum =creation manifested as consciously material or materially conscious.



We may think that humans are disconnected from the source in such a way that we are not united with the whole by our own limited perception but not by the perception of consciousness itself.

"The hyperdimensional reality is not directly observable from inside itself. We can however see shadows of hyperdimensional contents and principles through their effects, a bit like the spectators in Plato's cave analogy."-- http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=386

“There are three distinct levels of consciousness on Earth: sensation, simple consciousness and self-consciousness. [...] Each has its own framework of space-time.”
Dictated by the amount of consciousness living in it or awareness. Giving the separation of multiple space-time continuum, that each level of awareness will continue on its given path of awareness. But this separation is an illusion because consciousness is not separated and only perceived to be by the limitation of its emanating awareness.
There can be more than one Space-time continuum

“Normal” is a subjective morality base on principles of an accepted belief system. Limited thinking.

Consciousness’ can be broken off into pieces of itself by the contraption of matter within space thus many yous of different levels of awareness exist.
We might even say that space is a reflection of the amount of awareness in it which can give the idea that life within a giving space can be raised to a higher level of existence. But only by the conscious effort of the material sources or life, therefore raising awareness is the constituting initiative or determining factor. And since consciousness or (awareness when analogous to living matter) provides the idea of worlds within worlds separated by a field of gravitation or connecting divider.
“Reality phenomenon” is coined by our non understanding or yet understood truth of infinite possibilities.
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OK, thanks for explaining. :) I don't have an answer for you at this time, but maybe others will have input. I just knew for sure I would have to consider it in terms of everything else in order for it to be meaningful.
 
Roland JP said:
would have to consider it in terms of everything else

What do this mean?

I mean to say that I would have to know how the information in the post fits in with a wider context. Without knowing how the info is supposed to fit into a larger process, or at least what else is on your mind, there is no way to evaluate it except as "word strings", so to speak. At least in my case. :)

As far as understanding how matter and consciousness interact, and regarding the last section, I do agree with the idea that when talking about quantum stuff, one can run into "certain problems when you try to transfer these concepts to classical realities."

Lately, though, I've been re-thinking the part about:

"Once the event happens, or what is called “measurement” occurs, the system collapses the state vector into a single, probabilistically determined state. Until this collapse occurs, the state vector that has developed in time deterministically specifies the system collectively.”

The main reason is because when I came under influence of the idea that quantum 'particles' are really both 'particle' and 'wave', no "collapse" seems necessary for a temporary static pattern of actuality to emerge. Maybe "collapse" refers more to the perceptual end of the transaction - where a choice is made for perspective. Don't know yet.


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Intresting... maybe I should read up on it instead of guess work to get a better understanding of classical realities and quantum science.
Have any book recommendations?
 
Roland JP said:
Intresting... maybe I should read up on it instead of guess work to get a better understanding of classical realities and quantum science

You so funny! :lol: Seriously though, this stuff is so very fascinating and full of potential for understanding just about anything you put your mind too, so it thrills me no end to see you or anyone interested in it too. :)
 
Roland JP said:
Intresting... maybe I should read up on it instead of guess work to get a better understanding of classical realities and quantum science.
Have any book recommendations?

Actually, that would be appreciated, since then you could write your thoughts on it concisely. As it is written, it's rather hard to follow - it's always very important to remember to write for others, not the self - so getting a solid background on this information before wiseacring would be very externally considerate. :)
 
Roland JP said:
Have any book recommendations?

My recommendations:

The Feynman Lectures on Physics
_http://www.amazon.com/Feynman-Lectures-Physics-boxed-set/dp/0465023827
_http://www.amazon.com/Feynman-Lectures-Physics-Set/dp/0201021153

A website for The Feynman Lectures on Physics with a discussion forum
_http://www.feynmanlectures.info/

A look at the philosophy of quantum theory
_http://www.energygrid.com/science/2004/12ap-quantummap.html

Einstein, Bohr and the quantum dilemma: from quantum theory to quantum information
_http://books.google.com/books/about/Einstein_Bohr_and_the_quantum_dilemma.html?id=_gBUUQ1_ThoC

An Introduction to Quantum Mechanics
A beginners' (non-mathematical) guide to the strange world of the atom
_http://www.krysstal.com/quantum.html

Quantum Physics: A Beginner's Guide
_http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Physics-Beginners-Guide-Oneworld/dp/1851683690

Quantum Theory: A concise guide for beginners
_http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/quantum-theory-a-concise-guide-for-beginners/18777577

Summaries of Spacetime, Relativity, and Quantum Theories
_http://www.ws5.com/spacetime/

The Role of Decoherence in Quantum Mechanics
_http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-decoherence/

Philosophy of Quantum Theory
_http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepage/research/phil_qm.html

_http://lesswrong.com/lw/r8/and_the_winner_is_manyworlds/?gclid=CJuc_eHCzq0CFYFb7AodiFxxnA
 
Roland JP said:
How consciousness and matter possibly interact? And maybe an explanation for other realities existing beyond our perception of space-time?

Are you seeking a subjective explanation or an objective understanding?

What is your basis for making these statements? If you are looking for explanations that sound good, the web is already brimming with good-sounding explanations about anything you would care to ask about that are wrong at best and deliberately deceptive at worst.

If you are trying to reason objectively, I don't yet see it. In reading the text I immediately find myself asking again and again, "where did that come from?" It seems to be heavily loaded with assumptions.

"Quantum approach is expanding by the thrust of the consciousness field."

What does that mean, exactly. What is "quantum approach?" What is "the consciousness field?" I can get a sense of what you are trying to say if I continue reading, but no sense of why I should believe it to be true. And it's painful to read.
 
"Quantum approach is expanding by the thrust of the consciousness field."
this is to say that matter is express or comes into existence because of energy or conscious the immaterial

Its not meant to be believe as true but if it is useful
 
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