SEG - The workable answer to our global energy crisis?

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Hello everyone :D

Does anyone knows about this? There seems to be no topic within the forum that deals with what this man claims to be capable of: Generating free energy by the use of his innovative, mindbending Searl-Effect-Generator, that also generates an anti-gravity-field by the way. His scientific approach deals with strange alchemical kind of numbers and knocks our magnetism-scholars straight on the head. Is this flying saucerer a deceiving conman or is he the Zefram Cochrane (Star Trek - fictional inventor of the warp-engine) from the other side of the tv-screen? I'm not quite sure what to make of it.

If you haven't checked this out already, maybe it is worth a look. Judge for yourself. Please destroy my hopes! Here we go... ;)




"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)



Scotland Lecture - 9/5/2005

Prof. John R.R. Searl proves to the media and officials attending the lecture that magnets act in waves and not just poles.

Scientists have always maintained that the only method of magnetization possible occurs with clear and discrete poles of North and South. The industry has produced multiple poles on a magnet, but always with discrete North South polarity.

On May 9, 2005, at The Victory Hall, Aboyne, Scotland, Professor John Roy Robert Searl demonstrated a magnetic wave pattern on a Ferro-magnetic metal material, thus proving conventional scientist wrong. This demonstration was witnessed by officials from the Scottish Government as well as a member of the press. The entire lecture was videotaped by a reputable production company from Los Angeles California.

The tests demonstrated a magnetic ring rotated on test set with constant rate and measurement taken with a gauss meter. The readings steadily increased and decreased in an even and fluid manner. Further tests were videotaped using an oscilloscope to show the complete repeating wave form. This leaves no doubt that the field that Professor Searl describes can be created and duplicated.

The secret to making this wave pattern on a magnetic material is a technical process known only by Professor Searl and his team. This magnetic wave pattern is used to create the Searl Effect Generator (SEG) and it is a cornerstone of a new era in clean and sustainable energy.

We are now closer to replicating the Searl Effect with a working prototype of the SEG. With the anticipated support, this technology will reach the entire World and bring about an exciting new energy age.

Page 429 from Prof. Searl's book "SEG Concept Review".





The Searl Effect

The Searl Effect was discovered by John Roy Robert Searl in 1946.

Put simply, it is a method of extracting clean and sustainable electrical energy.

The SEG consists of three fixed stator rings that are uniquely magnetized with patterns setup to generate continual motion of similarly magnetized cylindrical rotors. The magnetic rotors or rollers consist of eight segmented components made of the same four layers of concentric materials that make up the stators. The rollers have both freedom of spin and rotation around the stator which generates both mechanical and electrical power.

The SEG is an 'open system' of energy conversion that is in accordance known thermodynamic laws; particularly as it may apply at the quantum level. The open energy cycle of the SEG enables it to function both as a prime mover of mechanical rotors, but more so as an electrical generator that continuously interacts and processes energy from the natural environment.

Incidental effects includes a halo of negative air ionization or plasma, vacuum by extreme electrical charge, cooling temperatures of both device and the local environment; also gravitational and inertial anomalies under specific conditions.

The Searl Effect is based on magnetic waveforms that generates a continual motion of magnetized rollers around magnetized rings.

Energy conversion while operating involves processing of random quantum fluctuations and kinetic energy within the atomic lattice into coherent currents of electron pairs formed between two-dimensional boundaries of different type materials. Therein between surface boundaries, the Quantum Hall Effect of a strong pulsing magnetic field are electron transformations (compression) that dramatically decreases the device temperature with increasing mean free paths (conductivity) due to the increase in fermion pair formations or bosons tunneling at high speed through all of the concentric material layers.

Energy out of the environment is typically chaotic but pervasive at the quantum level and we all feel it in part as ambient temperatures, but this is just one source of ambient energy within the electromagnetic spectrum that is in a random state and is readily utilized by the SEG. It is in effect an unbiased solid state magnetic diode that can effectively turn ambient energy into asymmetrical electron motion out of randomness into a uniform state or non-random state of coherent motion which forms currents of high velocity tunneling electrons pairs; otherwise known as cooper pairs.

Searl Technology utilizes of the electron’s inherent ability to absorb and emit energy at the quantum level with an energy cycle that can could compared and explained in layman terms to the hydroelectric dam in principle since both are driven directly or indirectly by entropy of the sun's radiant energy. A dam builds up potential and kinetic energy by way of cloud condensation that forms rain and fills reservoirs, but does so only after it has achieved a higher energy level by way of evaporation from ground levels. Whereas the SEG utilizes its layer of neodymium as a reservoir of electrons, Teflon layer is analogous to the dam itself, Magnetic layer as the power plant that makes useful work out of the currents and finally the copper layer that compares well to the water outlets that can be seen to jet out at the bottom of the dam; similarly the SEG ram-jets electrons out to the atmosphere. At this point, energy levels of the water jets or in the case of electrons, are kinetically reduced existing the system, but be mindful that these discharges go back to the environment to recharge. Therein, ambient energy restores their energy levels up by way of evaporation of water or as with the SEG, the uniform emission of electrons to the outside air exposes them to atmosphere’s ambient sources of energy or temperature which raises the electron’s quantum energy levels back up to natural ambient levels. Thereafter, the external sources of electrons are attracted back to the relatively positive potential of the electron depleted neodymium layer (reservoir) where the energy cycle continuously repeats. It is a process that effectively strips kinetic energy out the of electrons before they are emitted; no different in principle from the energy cycle of the hydroelectric dam where the kinetics of the water flow are harnessed. In this manner, both ways gather ambient sources of energy that can be processed and made useful for electrical applications.

The idea of utilizing unlimited sources of energy is the subject of various devices and experiments, most of which prove the existence of energy at the quantum level but not a method of creating a coherent and uniform flow of energy to produce useful electrical power. In contrast, John Searl discovered that in order to create a steady and stable flow, all the masses of the device (and the stimulating frequencies) must conform to precise values which are determined by a matrix of coherent numbers he calls the "Law of the Squares". The SEG’s ability harness the electron’s kinetic energy itself is a unique achievement that represents a new technology working with the highest quality of energy that nature has to offer and it is clean, non-destructive, unlimited and all-pervading.

This all describes a constant source of energy that can be made to flow when the correctly proportioned masses concerned are stimulated by suitable magnetic field frequencies along with the appropriate generator design. The SEG is such a device, precisely constructed to these principles, enabling it to produce stable and useful electrical power that is scalable both in size and output.

SEG sizes can range from the smallest design of about one meter in diameter with a 15 kilowatts capacity (which is suitable for most households) to well over a Gigawatt with a 12 meter IGV class power plant that can be stationed to supply the electrical needs of an entire city.



These are extracts from http://www.searlsolution.com
 
The IGV - Inverse Gravity Vehicle

The Inverse Gravity Vehicle is a craft designed to take full advantage of the SEG's unexpected propensity to lift and defy the force of gravity.

The IGV is structurally designed to support and integrate a very large and powerful scaled up version of the SEG within a suitable flight controlled frame in the form of a slender disc.

Initial prototypes simply sped up and got lost skyward regardless of obstacles such as ceiling or roof structures, for this reason John called them "fire crackers", but very expensive ones at that.

The incorporation of a dielectric layer gated or regulated the output and with the development of the disc shape outer body, enabled him to control it during flight with an innovative 64 flight cell switching relay system that made it agile and maneuverable by the 1960s.

From varies locations, these crafts were radio remote controlled by a small network of ham radio operators given specific instructions. They also utilized innovative communications techniques such as EME which bounces signals of the moon. These test flights typically took place at night at altitudes of about 2000ft emerging out of isolated fields.

However, these test flights did not go unnoticed, thousands of witnesses reported hearing or seeing what they called the "Warminster Thing".

Residential homes within the IGV's routes were incidentally effected by droning sounds, roof tiles rattled and waved, pigeons that got in the way dropped to the ground, unsuspecting witnesses panicked in fear and sometimes it even gave chase to cars; in particular targeting british police cars that happen to be passing by.

These so called “sighting” in fact prompted many town hall meetings within the small British town of Warminster and these gatherings were filled to over capacity with frightened and alarmed town citizens,

who unbeknownst to them, actually witnessed test flights of the IGV.

This was the actual cause of the biggest and most enduring flap of sightings in UK history.



This is also an extract from http://www.searlsolution.com
 
floetus said:
Does anyone knows about this? There seems to be no topic within the forum that deals with what this man claims to be capable of: Generating free energy by the use of his innovative, mindbending Searl-Effect-Generator, that also generates an anti-gravity-field by the way.

This would be a truly wonderful breakthrough.... but I have to say my scamdar is going wild. I watched his videos, and his "mock-up" is plugged into the wall sucking "excitation energy" from his local power company. :(

He states:
"(note: the mock-up is not generating electricity; it is for demonstration and evaluation purposes only). It consumes a small amount of excitation energy. The final SEG version will have layers of rare earth metal to achieve energy conversion and self drive."

In plain speak...he does not have a working prototype because he lacks some rare magic metal to make one. All he needs now is your money. :rolleyes:

One has to wonder, what would "layers of rare earth metal to achieve energy conversion and self drive" cost ...and wouldn't Exxon already own it?
 
I studied Searle's work in 1996. I did a survey back then of all purported free-energy and anti-gravity devices and bound them into a couple of very large three-ring notebooks.

Searle's is one of the few devices to still persist after all these years. It has been studied by many. His magic squares are subtle, and it took me a long time to realize that what he is talking about is a special form of rotational invariance. The center of his squares rotate, leaving the periphery unperturbed.

Searle first pursued it as an anti-gravity device.
 
Well , i find this subject interesting. I am currently experimenting with all these magnetic phenomenons and i am trying to understand it.

Here are my various findings

__http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/100/125greb.html
__http://www.cheniere.org/misc/oulist.htm
__http://www.fdp.nu/perendev/
__http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id18.html
__http://www.witts.ws/technologies.html
__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaIYRM1yrM4&feature=channel
__http://johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

It looks like that John Bedinis project is promising. Energy created from braking of electromagnetic field.
To be honest it is all fascinating , i am pretty sure that more efficient and green energy sources exist , it is just a matter of time when someone publish it without interruption by energy companies
 
There are a lot drygol, hard to pick what is real. This area likely had dis-info long before it appeared more widely in conspiracy theory.

I find three people's work to stand very tall indeed:

1) Thomas Townsend Brown
2) John Searle
3) Walt Rosenthal

Walt was a personal friend who set out to debunk free energy after retirement. He bought shipping crates for his instruments and set out to tackle the world. Sometime later he met Floyd Sweet, and spent much time diagnosing his Vacuum Triode Amplifier. During this process the harrassment started. He was knocked back by the shock of it, but he rolled forward later.
 
There are a lot drygol, hard to pick what is real. This area likely had dis-info long before it appeared more widely in conspiracy theory.

I totally agree , there is a lot of dis-info injected for a purpose. I have much more of materials like this , and i am trying to prove`em wrong by simple testing.
But this are is kinda interesting and for example Ed Leedskalnin ( guy who built Coral Castle - Florida ) had to achieve it somehow with simple methods so there has to be something out there which is constantly being distorted and hidden by large energy corporations.
Plus , I am learning a lot when I play with this stuff :)
Soon , I will have my Bedini motor circuit completed so I will be able to tell if its fake or not - I'll let you know :)
 
drygol: thanks for the note back. I too have tested a device, reviewed here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=15866.msg132925#msg132925 It failed, but we learned.

I will have my Bedini motor circuit completed so I will be able to tell if its fake or not - I'll let you know

I corresponded with Tom Bearden and John Bedini ten years ago. That Bedini project is tough, I hope you get it working!

Some advice:

If you do make the public claim that you are building and testing a free energy device (you did), then you will get a review by the PTB. You must. But it's ok. My guess is that the review seeks to assess how loose of a cannon you are, and how stable you are. The people conducting the reviews may be simply trying to protect a country during war time. I don't know how with all that's going on they could possibly stay on top of all the reviews they need to do these days!!!

So what can you do to assure the likely very normal working-stiffs-just-trying-to-do-their-jobs that will be tasked to assess you - that you are not a problem to be elevated? My guess is three things. One is to be darn sure that you will not post any information accidentally that could compromise important stuff during war time. Two is to pull back from the idea of fighting the establishment, and seek only at this point to find the truth. That means not hyping it up with family and friends, especially on the phone. EDIT: The reason I say this, is because your phone signal is picked up by many govs. If, say an enemy government found you interesting and made a decision to investigate you, etc. then your friendly gov finds out about that...

Likewise, I say this: If you want to discuss these topics I am in. But if you go on a crusade to challenge the PTB, then I am out. There are many reasons to suppress certain technologies, not all selfish and reckless. A key one that plays big time in WashingtonDC these days my guess is to keep dangerous technologies out of the hands of enemies and terrorists.

And make no mistake, if the technologies discussed here and just about everywhere now represent a jump in scientific thought on a par with going from Newtonian Physics to Relativity, then many implications and dangers may lurk that mere citizens like you and me have no clue about.

Sorry, but I needed to say that.

I just picked up another oscilloscope, and my same friend from above has bitten into another pie, this time a device between the power line and his house, and again I am dubious at the claims. The kit is a modest $100, and I am planning to evaluate it over the coming weeks. We'll see. I like the line of approach that I am on, because by testing sham devices, I may actually be better tooled if I stumble on a 'real one.'

cheers
 
Thanks for all hints Potamus , I'll keep that in mind when posting next time.
 
floetus said:
The IGV - Inverse Gravity Vehicle

The Inverse Gravity Vehicle is a craft designed to take full advantage of the SEG's unexpected propensity to lift and defy the force of gravity.

Well if you ever manage to fit the device into a Bra, women over forty will sing your praises. :D
 
floetus said:
Scotland Lecture - 9/5/2005

Prof. John R.R. Searl proves to the media and officials attending the lecture that magnets act in waves and not just poles.

Scientists have always maintained that the only method of magnetization possible occurs with clear and discrete poles of North and South. The industry has produced multiple poles on a magnet, but always with discrete North South polarity.

On May 9, 2005, at The Victory Hall, Aboyne, Scotland, Professor John Roy Robert Searl demonstrated a magnetic wave pattern on a Ferro-magnetic metal material, thus proving conventional scientist wrong. This demonstration was witnessed by officials from the Scottish Government as well as a member of the press. The entire lecture was videotaped by a reputable production company from Los Angeles California.
It's statements like these that scream disinfo. How does demonstrating a wave pattern prove our current theories on electromagnetism wrong?

The tests demonstrated a magnetic ring rotated on test set with constant rate and measurement taken with a gauss meter. The readings steadily increased and decreased in an even and fluid manner. Further tests were videotaped using an oscilloscope to show the complete repeating wave form. This leaves no doubt that the field that Professor Searl describes can be created and duplicated.

It seems like rotating a magnet with a constant rate would produce constantly fluctuating patterns. That seems to work fine with conventional theories.

Guardian said:
floetus said:
Does anyone knows about this? There seems to be no topic within the forum that deals with what this man claims to be capable of: Generating free energy by the use of his innovative, mindbending Searl-Effect-Generator, that also generates an anti-gravity-field by the way.

This would be a truly wonderful breakthrough.... but I have to say my scamdar is going wild. I watched his videos, and his "mock-up" is plugged into the wall sucking "excitation energy" from his local power company. :(

He states:
"(note: the mock-up is not generating electricity; it is for demonstration and evaluation purposes only). It consumes a small amount of excitation energy. The final SEG version will have layers of rare earth metal to achieve energy conversion and self drive."

In plain speak...he does not have a working prototype because he lacks some rare magic metal to make one. All he needs now is your money. :rolleyes:

One has to wonder, what would "layers of rare earth metal to achieve energy conversion and self drive" cost ...and wouldn't Exxon already own it?

I agree with you here Guardian. Except he's not claiming he needs anything magical, and if all he needs is rare earth magnets he could just go buy some. Here's a website that sells Neodymium magnets, _http://www.forcefieldmagnets.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23_37 and if you look at the prices you can imagine it would be affordable to at least get enough material for a small working prototype.


The long statement about how it works looks like it could have something to it, but that will take a more careful analysis. As for the Inverse Gravity Vehicle though...
floetus said:
The IGV - Inverse Gravity Vehicle
...
Initial prototypes simply sped up and got lost skyward regardless of obstacles such as ceiling or roof structures, for this reason John called them "fire crackers", but very expensive ones at that.
...

Ok... so go get your "reputable production company from Los Angeles" and film that!! That would be more convincing evidence that he's actually on to something here. But that seems unlikely for some reason.

-My two cents.
 
Guardian said:
floetus said:
The IGV - Inverse Gravity Vehicle

The Inverse Gravity Vehicle is a craft designed to take full advantage of the SEG's unexpected propensity to lift and defy the force of gravity.

Well if you ever manage to fit the device into a Bra, women over forty will sing your praises. :D
Haheh... :lol: Good point. Even if Prof. Searl's approach is potentially workable, he must know, that his mighty mock-up looks quite suspicious to the skeptics, when he is asking for money without having magic evidence. On the other hand: what could he do to avoid such an impression, if he really needs money to fulfill his innovative task?



potamus said:
There are a lot drygol, hard to pick what is real. This area likely had dis-info long before it appeared more widely in conspiracy theory.

I find three people's work to stand very tall indeed:

1) Thomas Townsend Brown
2) John Searle
3) Walt Rosenthal

Walt was a personal friend who set out to debunk free energy after retirement. He bought shipping crates for his instruments and set out to tackle the world. Sometime later he met Floyd Sweet, and spent much time diagnosing his Vacuum Triode Amplifier. During this process the harrassment started. He was knocked back by the shock of it, but he rolled forward later.
You seem to know something about physics. Do you think a freely formed network of open minded physicists could verify those theories, at least theoretically? Or is it basically impossible to do this without expensive hardware? I mean, what about this Coral Castle guy? Did they made it up to have a mysterious tourist attraction? What about the elaborated ancient structures in South America, made of giant building elements precisely cut from solid rock? These insane walls, made of giant irregular waveshaped puzzle pieces, as if building a wall couldn't be hard enough. Or was it actually quite easy? Shapes and sizes doesn't matter actually? Only in our imagination, as Yoda suggests? (the real fake yoda from the movies) There might be a simpler way.

:/ What if Searl really has magic data, that he cannot make public, because he knows the drill. So he tries to appear convincing without hard evidence, to appear harmless in the eyes of the big bosses, but convincing enough to gain some 'naive' believers (money). Ok, I really can't tell if it is true! But I have a guts feeling that there are amazing secrets, hidden behind the curtain of magnetism. Everyone talks about magnetism, even the Cassies. Or is it wishfull thinking? Unfortunately I am not a physicist or engineer!

Instead I am trying to imagine innovative scifi- and fantasy-technologies for fictional purposes, technology that, at least, appears to be convincing. Therefore it might be helpful to study cases like this.


drygol said:
Well , i find this subject interesting. I am currently experimenting with all these magnetic phenomenons and i am trying to understand it.

Here are my various findings

__http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/100/125greb.html
__http://www.cheniere.org/misc/oulist.htm
__http://www.fdp.nu/perendev/
__http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id18.html
__http://www.witts.ws/technologies.html
__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaIYRM1yrM4&feature=channel
__http://johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

It looks like that John Bedinis project is promising. Energy created from braking of electromagnetic field.
To be honest it is all fascinating , i am pretty sure that more efficient and green energy sources exist , it is just a matter of time when someone publish it without interruption by energy companies
:D Wow, what a list! Thanks for the material! I 've started to read the first one, about the amazing findings of Grebennikov: The Cavity Structure Effect. FASCINATING! Did you test those 'magic' honeycombs as well?
 
Wow, what a list! Thanks for the material! I 've started to read the first one, about the amazing findings of Grebennikov: The Cavity Structure Effect. FASCINATING! Did you test those 'magic' honeycombs as well?

Haha , no i didn't .... yet :D , Grebennikov did not say what exactly causes this effect because he wanted to protect endangered species. So no one is really sure how this flying platform should look like.
Also keep in mind that there is a lot of disinfo on websites like this and I am not a physicist so i not sure which of presented links might me true and which false.
 
Keep in mind, that most of the stuff you are talking about
here have been around for a long time. I studied many of
these things you are talking about, tried many and found
myself getting into a emotionally draining feedback loop.

I read and studied everything I could get my hands on,
From Faraday to Tesla to the modern ones. There is a
TON of disinfo artists such as Tom Bearden and Ark made
sure I understood this (thanks, Ark). I also looked at
the ones mentioned, esp., Dr. Brown (and Biefeld) - of
which I found interesting but somewhat obscure, and
supposedly were the progenitors of the Biefeld/Brown Effect,
which gave us the electrostatic air filters, electrostatic sound
generators as well as the electrostatic microphones, but their
research was generally focused on electrostatic lifters which
probably lead to the stealth aircrafts which was revealed in
the Iraq (gulf-war) conflicts. Seems these things almost
always benefits the Military/Industrial Complex?

As for lifters and magnet "experiments", you can find these in:
_http://members.fortunecity.com/jlnaudin (which can also contain
disinfo), as well as information on Townsend's website by googling
"Townsend Brown Biefeld electrostatic" which contains a bit of
history, if it's true?

But then again, following these things seemed lead towards
many other machines, such as Searl, MEGs, and a slew of
other things as well. And oh, also, keely.net is FULL of all
sorts of these ideas as well. But again, it reminds me of the
33 1/3 feedback loops, to keep us busy/trapped, perhaps
missing the forest for the trees?

Again, just be wary of these disinfo/con-artists out there.

OSIT/FWIW,
Dan
 
dant said:
Again, just be wary of these disinfo/con-artists out there.
So there are two parties of artist creating negative or positive dissociation's, one to lead them all astray and one to inspire them to follow new tracks towards understanding (home), so to speak. Sure, a perfect negative dissociation is the one, that pretends being real, that is deceiving, self-serving. In contrast to the negative ones, the positive dissociation's are not meant to appear real. A perfect positive artist, who is truly humble and open-minded does not even know, if he is creating B-influences, I guess. Such an artist would be just a channel. He would simply be following the path of his calling. I will keep that in mind! :)

I am regarding those unapproved theories and claims as inspiring scifi- and fantasy-concepts until I know better ;) Every cloud has a silver lining.

In the re-imagined Battlestar Gallactica-series the creators took the physics of space travel more seriously. They developed a reaction-controll-thruster-system that makes the spacecraft-manouvers more reasonable. In our days recipients seem to be more demanding. They know the visual and acoustical physics from video-game-simulation, the fictional forces of magic maneuvers. They spend much time in figuring out if those fictional technologies really could work. They are speaking of different universes. They wonder why the Star-Trek-universe is more convincing than the Star-Wars-universe. So science-fiction and fantasy has always been a great inspiration to real physicists and engineers! That seems to be the good thing about dissociation's in general, doesn't it? (even the negative ones) :)
 
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