Self observation

[jhonny]

Desde hace un mes mas o menos que he terminado de leer ISOTM y ahora que estoy leyendo GNOSIS he decidido compartir el trabajo que he empezado en mi propia observación, ésto no lo habia hecho antes debido a la falta de tiempo, mi trabajo y el hogar, pero ahora lo empiezo a hacer porque definitivamente hay que empezar y no importan los inconvenientes porque ahora soy conciente de que todos éstos inconvenientes se presentan debido a las influencias A como dice Mouravieff.
Al principio ha sido un poco dificil ser conciente de todo lo que hago , pienso o siento pero éstas han sido hasta ahora las conclusiones de mi propia observación.
Primero he notado que tengo un temor por el futuro y una ANSIEDAD de saber lo que va a pasar mañana, por ejemplo; mi dia no habia terminado y ya yo estaba pensando en que iva a hacer el fin de semana, y ésto me produce hasta dolor de estomago, a veces es terrible, ésto hace que yo me confunda en lo que pienso, siento y hago.
Lo segundo en el orden de importancia es mi situación familiar yo soy casado y no tengo hijos con mi esposa pero ella tiene 4 y 3 de ellos viven con nosotros ( sus edades son; 16, 18, 21 y 26 la mayor) mi relacion con ellos se puede decir que es buena pero en determinados momentos el comportamiento de ellos hace que yo a veces tenga emociones un poco fuertes de rabia por ejemplo cuando no estoy deacuerdo con ellos, ahora entiendo tambien que ésto pasa por la educación que yo recibí de mis padres( ellos eran muy exigentes conmigo), osea mi comportamiento mecánico.
Lo tercero tiene que ver con mi forma de mentir, yo creía que podía mentirle a otros y que yo estaba conciente de que eso era una mentira y ya, pero me estaba mintiendo muchas veces a mi mismo, es mas cuando yo llegué aqui ( el trabajo de Laura con los C's, al foro, a Gurdjieff, etc) yo pensaba que ésto era un grupo más de gente que comparte los mismos pensamientos y ya, asi empecé a leer y no me atrevía a decirlo, pero ahora lo puedo decir porque como dice Gurdjieff mentirle al maestro no tiene ningún sentido, es mas eso es lo peor que se puede hacer.
Lo cuarto tiene que ver con le envidía, a veces me da un poco de frustración cuando veo que algunas personas cercanas a mi no tienen ningun merito para tener mas cosas que yo y sin embargo las consiguen, ésto en especial me hace verme ridiculo a mi mismo.
Esto es lo que he observado de mi hasta ahora.
Ahora tengo un par de preguntas.
La primera tiene que ver con el "trabajo en sí", empezar a cambiar éstos comportamientos desde el mismo momento en que se conocen o sin embargo seguirme observando durante un tiempo mas sin realizar ningun cambio hasta ahora? hago la pregunta porque en ISOTM, G. dice que la observación de si mismo debe ser profunda y constante y hasta no estar conciente de todas nuestras obsevaciones no empezar a trabajar sobre sí mismo para no equivocarse.
La segunda pregunta es: Cual es el "papel " que juegan los seres 4D en el Rayo de creación?. La pregunta la hago porque he leído algunas cosas sobre las bases extraterrestres en la luna y como la luna estas en la última escala dentro del proceso del Rayo de creación me queda la duda si ésto tiene que ver con los seres 4D, que se alimentan de nuestra energía.
Por último quisiera agradecer especialmente a Ailén por la guía que me ha brindado desde el principio.
Un saludo de corazón para todos y muchas gracias por leer.


For a month or so I've finished reading ISOTM and now I'm reading GNOSIS I decided to share the work I started on my own observation, he had not done this before due to lack of time, my work and home But now I start to do because there is definitely to start and do not mind the inconvenience because now I am aware that all these difficulties arise because A influences as Mouravieff said.
At first it was a bit difficult to be aware of everything I do, think or feel but they have been so far the conclusions of my own observation.
First I noticed that I have a fear for the future and anxiety to know what will happen tomorrow, for example, my day had not finished and I was thinking that taxes to make the weekend, and this causes me to stomach pain, sometimes it is terrible, this makes me confused on what I think, feel and do.
The second in order of importance is my family situation I am married and I have no children with my wife but she has 4 and 3 of them live with us (their ages are: 16, 18, 21 and 26 the highest) my relationship with they can say is good but at certain times their behavior sometimes makes me have a bit strong emotions such as anger when I'm not agree with them, now I understand also that this goes through the education I received from my parents (they were very demanding with me), my bone mechanical behavior.
The third has to do with my way of lying, I thought I could lie to others and that I was aware that that was a lie and now, but I was lying to myself many times, it is but when I got here (the work of Laura with the C's, the forum, Gurdjieff, etc) I thought this was a group of people who share the same thoughts and I, so I started reading and I dared not speak, but now I can say this because Gurdjieff as lying to the teacher says it makes no sense, it is more that's the worst that can be done.
The fourth has to do with envy him, sometimes I'm a little frustrated when I see some people close to me do not have any merit to have more things I get them yet, especially this ridiculous makes me me me same.
This is what I have seen of me so far.
Now I have a couple of questions.
The first has to do with the "work itself", begin to change their behavior from the moment they are known or however continue to observe for a while but without making any changes so far? I ask the question because ISOTM, G. says the observation itself must be deep and abiding and to not be aware of all our examiners do not start working on himself to avoid mistakes.
The second question is: What is the "role" played by 4D beings in the Ray of Creation?. The question I do it because I read some stuff about alien bases on the moon and the moon are in the last leg in the process of building Rayo I still doubt if this has to do with the 4D beings, which feed our energy.
Finally I would like to especially thank Ailen the guide given to me from the beginning.
A greeting from the heart to all and thank you very much for reading.

 

[Gaby]

Hi jhonny,

Your English looks fine to me. Since the Spanish section is only to help members with their translations or interpretations of the English posts, you should post your message in English on the relevant section, for instance in "The Work". In that way other members will read it and give you feedback.

 

[jhonny]

Thanks Psyche, I'm going to do it

 

[Ca.]

[quote author=Johnny]
For a month or so I've finished reading ISOTM and now I'm reading GNOSIS I decided to share the work I started on my own observation, he had not done this before due to lack of time, my work and home But now I start to do because there is definitely to start and do not mind the inconvenience because now I am aware that all these difficulties arise because A influences as Mouravieff said.
At first it was a bit difficult to be aware of everything I do, think or feel but they have been so far the conclusions of my own observation.
First I noticed that I have a fear for the future and anxiety to know what will happen tomorrow, for example, my day had not finished and I was thinking that taxes to make the weekend, and this causes me to stomach pain, sometimes it is terrible, this makes me confused on what I think, feel and do.[/quote]

Hi johnny, Think for monument of what fear entails. What does fear produce as far adding to the quality of your life. Understand that fear is a part of the dynamics of life, and a necessary necessity of this density for survival. But fear does not have to be an emotion that over rides your logic, for clear thinking in dealing with the daily problems of life.

This why it is so important to have a proper diet, (the Palio diet as recommend), that does not create an improper chemical imbalance in the body that may have an effect of the mind, depending on what you eat, and drink. That may push your emotions of fear, to extremes of struggles of life.

Self control, though your endeavors of self observation, are a important key to gaining the upper hand in your issues of changing the the way you react to certain stimulation from outside influences.

Here are some questions to ask yourself on your diet.

1. Are you daily consumer of heavy crabs, that convert to sugar in the blood stream, such white starches like bread, white rice, white vegetables, sweet fruits, etc?

2. Do you consume soda pop as to a clean source of purified water to stay hydrated daily?

3. Does your start off with a hearty breakfast that contains a good source of grass fed animal fat (low in salt, and sugar), such as bacon, (or fish) and do get some protein like from eggs. Remember that after an 8 hour sleep your body has been fasting, so it needs to be replenished with good food, for the days outing?

4. Do you limit coffee intake to 1 to 2 cups a day, to avoid hyper tension and may not promote getting a good nights rest?

I would think that you get the idea how a good diet would limit all this push, and rush to confusion, that can move to fear.

The second in order of importance is my family situation I am married and I have no children with my wife but she has 4 and 3 of them live with us (their ages are: 16, 18, 21 and 26 the highest) my relationship with they can say is good but at certain times their behavior sometimes makes me have a bit strong emotions such as anger when I'm not agree with them, now I understand also that this goes through the education I received from my parents (they were very demanding with me), my bone mechanical behavior.

Congratulations, this is the first step in gaining self control of anger issues, through your self observations. So this is a start to the change your trying to move towards in achieving self control.

Sometimes through failure we learn to look from the past, to remember that the next time this condition comes again, that past failures can add to goal of self control by monitoring ones ego. People have have free will just like you, and to try inserting one ideas to some that does not accept them is self defeating. So it may be necessary to just let the dog lie and move on. You have your beliefs as others have there's. Its all good.

The third has to do with my way of lying, I thought I could lie to others and that I was aware that that was a lie and now, but I was lying to myself many times, it is but when I got here (the work of Laura with the C's, the forum, Gurdjieff, etc) I thought this was a group of people who share the same thoughts and I, so I started reading and I dared not speak, but now I can say this because Gurdjieff as lying to the teacher says it makes no sense, it is more that's the worst that can be done.

Remember telling the truth, means your never have recall and cover the lie. What are you doing that makes it necessary to lie. What are the situations that help promote the lies. Lies can be connected to deception and self defeat. More fear, and confusion which you are trying rid your life of.

The fourth has to do with envy him, sometimes I'm a little frustrated when I see some people close to me do not have any merit to have more things I get them yet, especially this ridiculous makes me me me same.
This is what I have seen of me so far.

So what is the big deal. Life is not about what you dont have, everyone has different merits that others don't. You have gifts you were born with, so celebrate and cherish them. Be happy with cards life deals.

Move on to a bigger, and a better frame of the mind of what life can offer if you do the "Work"

Now I have a couple of questions.

The first has to do with the "work itself", begin to change their behavior from the moment they are known or however continue to observe for a while but without making any changes so far? I ask the question because ISOTM, G. says the observation itself must be deep and abiding and to not be aware of all our examiners do not start working on himself to avoid mistakes.

The second question is: What is the "role" played by 4D beings in the Ray of Creation?. The question I do it because I read some stuff about alien bases on the moon and the moon are in the last leg in the process of building Rayo I still doubt if this has to do with the 4D beings, which feed our energy.

Finally I would like to especially thank Ailen the guide given to me from the beginning.
A greeting from the heart to all and thank you very much for reading.

Sounds like your have the answers, now its time to apply them to your daily life to see results that you seek.

Good luck amigo. Change only comes when one apply's himself to want the change.

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