Session 1 November 2025

[axj]

Q: (L) And since the Little Ice Age lasted from 1450 to 1850, that was the period of its generalized influence?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So that suggests that it takes like 400 years for something like that to pass through the Oort cloud?

A: Yes

Not sure I understand this part. Why would the closest approach taking 400 years imply that the brown dwarf would also be only 400 years in the Oort Cloud?

The Oort Cloud is enormous and the brown dwarf will slow down a lot in that part of its orbit of millions of years.

Maybe it needs only 400 years to pass through the Kuiper Belt which is much closer and much, much smaller. Or did Laura mean 400 years to pass through the inner solar system, not the Oort Cloud?

 

[pkostov2]

Not sure I understand this part. Why would the closest approach taking 400 years imply that the brown dwarf would also be only 400 years in the Oort Cloud?

The Oort Cloud is enormous and the brown dwarf will slow down a lot in that part of its orbit of millions of years.

Maybe it needs only 400 years to pass through the Kuiper Belt which is much closer and much, much smaller. Or did Laura mean 400 years to pass through the inner solar system, not the Oort Cloud?

There is a third star in the solar system.Here are two DSS pictures of the third star. Therefore, it is not clear which companions closest approach the Cs are referring to in this case.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

(Beau) Is a direct US military attack on Venezuela proper imminent?

A: Very possible.

Thanks...

 

[mantle]

Ah yes Venezuela . Slowly does it . Early days .
The plan known as the North American Technate along with its well known map goes back to the 1930's and it also included part if not all of Colombia never mind Venezuela.
A massive land grab called Future Fortress America running the entire length of the continent.
A domain with an ultimate security perimeter guaranteeing in the end to all Americans freedom , security , justice and prosperity and a free trade zone for the entire Western hemisphere. So They said.
"They have vanished down into the bowels of the earth , but others have arisen to take their place "
[ Baruch ].

 

[mantle]

" So do not be afraid of them , for there is nothing that they conceal that will not be revealed ,or hidden ,that will not be made known. What is spoken in the dark will be heard in the light; what is whispered in the ear will be shouted from the rooftops " [ Mathew ].

 

[mimimari]

Thanks for sharing the session! Thanks to everyone for asking their questions.
Lots of information to digest here.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Thanks for the session!



Where did you find this image?? It’s wearing a watch!

I feel like we could ask about the watches and pinecones. Something tells me that the bag, watch on each hand, and pinecones all work together. Pinecone looks like it might direct the energy where you point it, and maybe watches are some kind of "controller/waveguide/monitor" that talk to each other. Also all the items are touching the body, so maybe it's using the body's energies, and/or conducting through the body/brain from one hand to the other, which might allow for mental guidance of the energy rather than needing an "app" with settings in it (unless the watches came with an app store?).

 

[Mark7]

Just an idea.

That it is zero-point energy is a possibility, or it could be a receiver of energy generated remotely.

 

[Wandering Star]

it could be a receiver of energy generated remotely.

I personally would opt for this one, given that they may have had many large pyramids generating energy.

Something like Tesla's tower, which might have put the energy into the environment and then you would just have to collect it.

 

[iamthatis]

I feel like we could ask about the watches and pinecones. Something tells me that the bag, watch on each hand, and pinecones all work together. Pinecone looks like it might direct the energy where you point it, and maybe watches are some kind of "controller/waveguide/monitor" that talk to each other. Also all the items are touching the body, so maybe it's using the body's energies, and/or conducting through the body/brain from one hand to the other, which might allow for mental guidance of the energy rather than needing an "app" with settings in it (unless the watches came with an app store?).

In the mainstream secret history circles, the pinecone is associated with the pineal gland and the Third Eye Chakra. That's where the word pineal comes from - pinecones.

Ancient Secrets Come into Sight: The Pineal Gland, Pine Cone Symbolism, and the Third Eye | Ancient Origins

There is an enigmatic gland which seems to be hidden away in the human brain that has fascinated people for centuries

www.ancient-origins.net

The name of the pineal gland comes from its pinecone-like shape. It is said that the pinecone was revered by ancient pagan people as the fruit (or seed) of the evergreen - a symbol which is connected to ideas of eternal life. It has also been considered a phallic symbol for its shape and role in creating life. The pinecone is a symbol which can be found in many ancient civilizations and cultures around the world. The following are some possible examples of pinecones appearing in ancient art.

From RA:

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately 31,000 years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian one until approximately15,000 of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in an informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call negative.

Anyways, I think it would be cool to ask about the pinecones, too. Could be that the shape of the pineal gland, and therefore its function in the body, was being held as a symbol of this power. of intelligent energy. Or the art depicts a literally externalized technological device that made use of the geometry of the gland to collect and disperse the 'indigo-ray energy'.

 

[Wandering Star]

Could be that the shape of the pineal gland, and therefore its function in the body, was being held as a symbol of this power. of intelligent energy.

This reminds me of the worldwide conspiracy to put sodium fluoride in drinking water, which apparently calcifies the pineal gland.

Interfering with the connection, right?

I remember the session in which Ark was warned about the fluoride in the water he was drinking and its effects on the pineal gland.

I seem to recall that he was recommended an infusion of something like goldenseal root or something like that to cleanse the fluoride.

In Spain, almost no bottled drinking water lists sodium fluoride in its composition on the label, so it can be assumed that it does not contain this additive. However, if you look for analyses Laboratory tests of those brands of bottled water, of all those sold in Spain for example, only two did not have fluoride.

Therefore, I believe it is an important matter.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

The 17th century was intense, though. Several comets in the sky, other than comet Halley, were described as "giant", "terrifying", "shining as bright as the sun at midday". This was the century of "Roundheads and Cavaliers", the English Civil War, witch hunting, the Black Death, the Thirty Years War, etc. Yet, as the century progressed, the lowest sun activity was encountered in the period of 1645–1700 when on average definitely less than one sunspot group per year was observed. And it was not due to lack of observation. You would think that all those giant comets would be discharging the solar capacitor, yet, there were no sunspots.

A few sessions that I think explain why:

Q: (T) As the brown dwarf approaches, will it intensify the solar flare activity?
A: The effect on the physical orientation of the sun from the periodic passage of its companion is to flatten the sphere slightly. This returns to its original spherical shape with the retreat.
Q: (L) Is this flattening of the sphere of the sun going to have any noticeable effects in terms of enhanced, accelerated, or magnified radiation from the sun?
A: No.
Q: (T) Solar flares or anything like that?
A: No.
Q: (T) So there is not going to be any appreciable effect on the planet from this as far as the sun goes?
A: The sun's gravity increases, thus inhibiting flares.
Q: (T) Inhibiting flares is good. (L) Not necessarily. Solar minimums have been periods of ice ages. (T) One of the recent crop circles this year shows what the crop circle interpreters say is an image of the sun with a large solar flare coming off of it. It is supposed to be a warning to us that the surface of the sun has become unstable...
A: All events intersect.

Q: (L) There was something else I wanted to ask about. (Andromeda) What about that humming sound that we all heard awhile back in the office?
A: Electrical charge.
Q: (L) How come we can't measure things like that?
A: Everything else including instruments are within the system.
Q: (Perceval) They said electrical charge... (L) Then you can't tell that a charge is different from anything... (Perceval) What we heard in the office was coming from the computer amp, but... (Mr. Scott) Well, but it's like if you measure the voltage between something and the earth, if the charge of both is increased, the voltage will be the same but the total charge on both can be much higher. But you can't tell because you're using a device that can only measure the difference between two points. (L) Belibaste, what's your question about the companion star grounding that you mentioned earlier? (Belibaste) In a previous session, it was said that the companion star coming closer induced a grounding of the sun. I simply wanted to know more precisely how this grounding occurs. For example, is there some kind of electric connection between the sun and the companion star, and if so, which kind of current transits between those two celestial bodies?
A: Indeed, but that occurs "outside" the system.
Q: (Belibaste) That's what you said, Ark. That it's a kind of wormhole...
A: Wormhole is good!
Q: (Belibaste) At the level of the sun, can we say that the reason for this grounding is the reduced positive overall charge?
A: Yes.
Q: (Belibaste) Okay, this reduced positive charge induces a reduced field that increases gravity?
A: Yes.
Q: (Belibaste) And this increase in gravity explains why there are less solar winds expelled from the sun although there is increased cometary activity?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) There was a question I wanted to ask, but it jumped out of my head... Yeah, we had a circular storm, and all of the thunder and lightning was like a ring, or a cyclonic motion around us and around all of France. I saw it on the radar the few times I checked.
(Pierre) And this grounding, it's due to more dust in the atmosphere. So you can retain more electric charge locally, so there's more disbalance and discharges.
(L) Does this have anything to do with the noted extreme quietness of the sun when it is supposed to be extremely active? It's supposed to be at a solar maximum, and the sun's disc was completely blank for several days.
A: Yes, as we said, the system is grounding.
Q: (L) You mean the solar system is grounding?
A: Yes.
Q: (Alana) Is this sort of thing going to happen more?
(Perceval) Yeah, that's what they said: "Expect more of this sort of thing around the planet in future."
A: Notice as you did earlier, the total fragmentation and charring [of the aircraft].

So I think the brown dwarf's grounding effect, reducing positive charge, and increasing gravity of the sun counteracts what we would otherwise expect from comets and such being present. At least at the moment - I don't know what would happen when the circuit is activated and the "current begins to flow" and the brown dwarf is lit up - would the sun also get weird?

 

[axj]

At least at the moment - I don't know what would happen when the circuit is activated and the "current begins to flow" and the brown dwarf is lit up - would the sun also get weird?

It seems very unlikely that something like this would happen hundreds of years after the brown dwarf already passed.

Did the C's say that the brown dwarf can light up due to an activated circuit between it and the Sun? There was this in the July 11, 1998 session:

Q: (A) Okay, I would like to ask what kind of effects other than just gravity we should expect from the close passage of this star? Any particular electro-magnetic, gamma radiation, or what to look for? In which part of the spectrum?

A: Radiation emits from those cosmic bodies which radiate.

Q: (L) Are you saying that the brown star does not radiate?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) If it doesn't radiate, what does it do?

A: Its radioactive field is severely limited as the "fire" went out long ago. It does not give off light.

 

[MJF]

If the legend that Napoleon didn't die on the island of Saint Helena were true, I don't think a professional historian would take this fact lightly or dismiss it as secondary.
The academic implications would create a revolution and a questioning of historical events.
And that, in essence, is the TITANIC work that @Laura and many other members of this forum have been doing for a very long time.
Of course, the fact that Napoleon was a subterranean is already too impressive to easily grasp.

I agree with you. However, there seem to be gatekeepers operating to maintain the status quo where the historic record and narrative is concerned, which would include measures to keep under wraps any awkward historical facts, like body doubles for example, that might undermine that narrative. This leads me to think that the undergrounders themselves may be playing a key role in this process, perhaps working through groups like the Illuminati. Some support for this idea may be found in the following exchange from the transcripts:​

Session 16 August 1997:

Q: Which reminds me: who REALLY burned the library at Alexandria, since I have heard two stories, one that the Christians did it and the other that the Arabs did it. Which?

A: Neither.

Q: Who DID burn it?

A: Sword keepers of "the lock."

Q: Who are the Sword Keepers of the Lock?

A: Has to do with Illuminati.

Q: What was their purpose in burning this library?

A: What is the purpose in burning ANY library?

Q: To destroy knowledge. Prevent other people from having access to it.

The "Lock" referred to above may well be a timeline lock, which ensures that history unfolds through a timeline most favourable to 4D STS. The C's elaborated further on this matter in the session dated 22 October 2022 where they :

Q: (Joe) Remember you asked years ago about who burned the library at Alexandria? And they said Greek Enforcers. They said they were like our FBI. Who did they work for or pay allegiance to?

A: Secret society with allegiance to 4D STS.

May we infer that this secret society referred to above is the Illuminati or elements of Freemasonry controlled by the Illuminati (as the C's have said elsewhere that Freemasonry represents the lower branch of the Illuminati)?

We know that the Aryan, bi-density undergrounders (the 'Nation of the Third Eye') are in the main STS orientated* and allied to the Orion 4D STS, so their operatives may well act as liaison points with surface human agents who may include the Illuminati brotherhood and their minions such as the Rockefeller group.

*The C's have hinted elsewhere that there are 4D STO bases too, some of which may be located underground.

This last point may be borne out by what the C's said here about Courtney Brown, a well known remote viewer connected to the Farsight Institute:​

Session 23 November 1996:

Q: (T) Is the book Courtney Brown wrote, "Cosmic Voyage," concerning the Martian population...

A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they are Orion STS.

Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?

A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.

Q: (T) Is Courtney Brown a government disinformation agent?

A: More as an "agent provocateur."

Q: (T) Is he working for the government?

A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.

Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?

A: Rockefeller group.

[…]

Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the information in the book?

A: Not really. Not needed.

Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his part?

A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.

Q: (T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I could also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that conflicts with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other researchers. This is all totally twisted and different.

A: Close.

Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?

A: No.

Q: (T) So, the book was made up the way it is. It is a story. Some factual information, some invented information, some pure BS thrown in to fluff it out. So, the book is NOT an account of work that has come from remote viewing sessions?

A: No, but not needed.

Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not "needed". Where did he get his information?

A: Secret sources. Agents of the “nation of the third eye."

Q: (J) What or who - is the "Nation of the Third Eye?"

A: Terran civilization under the surface.

Q: (L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said the Aryans were brought from Kantek, and that they were "sturdier," or something like that, and I remarked that it seemed that they would be less sturdy - and the C's answered "on the surface." Now, that has always bothered me. I don't think they meant "surface appearances." Have the Aryans been glorified as the "master race" because they are more suited to living underground?

A: Close. All types there are "Aryan."

Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has been 'managed' by Orions, or did it develop on its own?

A: One at a time.

Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that are 3rd?

A: The human types there are "bi-density."

Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!

A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to "regenerate." [MJF: Which puts me in mind of Star Trek's the Borg, who have to return to their regeneration chambers in order to rest and recharge their batteries.]

Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in any density?

A: In 4th and 3rd.

Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on either density?

A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is easier, naturally.

Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write this quasi-fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the Martians?

A: "Martians" is easier to understand for the less well- informed, not to mention any discussion of the densities!

Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier to understand than densities! (L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?

A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an explanation by surface types, such as yourselves. They were the inspiration for Masonic lore and Illuminati, too.

Q: (L) Does this "Third Eye" designation have a connotation of third eye abilities as we understand them?

A: Psychic. [MJF: Which links with what the C's said elsewhere about the subterranean army of psychic projectors that they referred to as Thor's Pantheon.]

So, as we see here, the Nation of the Third Eye were the inspiration for Masonic lore and the Illuminati too. Do they also act as overseers of the Illuminati and Freemasonry I wonder?

It is worrying to think that the C's have said that at any one time there may be as many as 2 to 2.5 million undergrounder operatives working on the Earth's surface in places of influence.

It is noticeable that the C's said that Napoleon did not have any specific mission as an undergrounder but that does not mean this is true of all of them. Napoleon emerged in, and rose to power during, the chaos of the French Revolution, which many researchers believe was inspired by Freemasonry, particularly those from the Illuminated Parisian lodges, who became known to history as the Jacobins (see: Jacobin (politics) - Wikipedia. My understanding is that agents of Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati infiltrated the Parisian lodges and illuminised them. Weishaupt had boasted of his organisation overthrowing thrones and altars - see Adam Weishaupt - Wikipedia. Some have suggested, however, that it was Mayer Amschel Rothschild who in 1770 drew up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and entrusted Adam Weishaupt with its organisation and development (E.g., see the following site:The History of The Rothschilds. Robber Barons of the Red Shield ~ The Roth (Red) Child’s (Shield) | Minds).

I would certainly not rule this out as we know from the C's that Mayer Amschel Rothschild was an undergrounder and Weishaupt was not by any measure a rich man:
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Session 17 August 2003:

Q: (L) Wow, that rhymes! (S) So is Mossad part of that?

A: Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.

Q: (Perceval) What's the relationship between the Mossad and the Rothschilds?

A: Mossad is a "brainchild."

{Laughter at the joke - "Rothschild" "Brainchild" - Discussion mainly Perceval) wondering whether the Rothschilds are part of the apex or if they are just useful idiots that are going to be double-crossed also. C's break in as Laura is not understanding Perceval's question.}

A: The lines blur. Rothchilds are similar in a smaller way to Sargon. Deep level punctuator.

Q: (L) What is a deep level punctuator?

A: One who emerges from seeming obscurity to "make a mark" on history. Don't you wonder where they come from. Think "deep."

Q: As in underground bases?

A: Well, what a concept!

If it is true that Mayer Amschel Rothschild financed Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati to carry out the mission of undermining all the monarchies of Europe and the Church to create a new order, then one wonders whether this was a something he was instructed to do by his underground masters before he was sent to the surface?

This begs the question of whether these people emerge on the surface as adults with a manufactured back story or history or whether they are placed here as children with their mission some how encoded into them? I say this because Queen Nefertiti, another undergrounder, was supposed to have grown up at the court of the pharaoh and thus spent most of her childhood in Egypt, although she was known to be a foreigner born outside of Egypt (perhaps Hittite Anatolia). Of course, she may not have had any specific mission but in becoming queen consort to the Pharoah Akhenaten, she was perhaps the best placed person to influence what was the most powerful man in the world in his age.
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