Thanks
@MJF for quoting that section about the AotC being originally an STS creation. I don't know how I missed that and would have made things a lot easier if I had seen that earlier. So it's the "power cell" that 'sits inside' the ToK/L. It makes more sense to me now that there are 'people of the Ark' and 'people of the Grail'.
And
@Gaby is right. What difference does it make if there is such a device. Us being on 3rdD, what could we do about it?
I suppose the whole point of this exercise was fulled by the quote from the session above.
I had the thought that this quote implies that all things are equally possible without technology, at least as I understand it.
I see my post in response to your original post seems to have upset Gaby somewhat, which I am sorry if it did. However, the main concern of my post was to correct your misunderstanding as regards the references to the Ark and the Grail, which are two quite separate things, although they may well have been used together, i.e., in tandem, at times. Think, for example, of the production of miraculous manna that was used to feed the Israelites in the desert, as described in the Bible. The Grail may have enabled the manifestation of manna and the Ark power cell the energy required to complete its production. Think of a Star Trek replicator to get some idea - i.e., turning pure light (photons) into matter reflecting Laura's comment that "
matter is nothing but congealed light". If you are interested in this last subject you might look at a 1978 book called the
Manna Machine written by
George Sassoon (an ex-NASA engineer) and
Rodney Dale, based upon a translation of the section of the
Zohar called
The Ancient of Days that concludes that a machine had created algae as food for human beings in biblical times (see:
The Manna Machine - Wikipedia). Since the Grail is supposed to be over 80,000 years old, it certainly would fulfil the description of the
Ancient of Days me thinks.
Just to clarify a couple of things you have said in this post though. First the Grail is not, strictly speaking, "technology" as we understand that term, as the C's hinted at here:
Q: (A) So we are making the knocking noises. I wasn't scared when there was this knocking. (L) I wasn't either. There was no sensation of the knocking being produced by an outside source - a predator, so to say. When something comes from the outside, you always get a subliminal feeling of fear like there is an intruder. And there was none of that. (A) Right. (L) If I'd had that, I probably wouldn't have jumped up out of the bed to go see what it was! Okay, onto our research. One of the questions we would like to clear up is the issue of the Holy Grail and the Ark. Is the Ark of the covenant - the ark thing given to the early pre-Mosaic Jews that you have described previously - the same as the Holy Grail?
A: No.
Q: (L) So there are two completely different technologies?
A: If you wish to term it such.
Q: (L) Why did they answer the question that way? What is the distinguishing thing between them? (A) Maybe 'as such' refers to the fact that you termed it 'technology.' Maybe this is not quite the correct term. Technology can be part of it, but maybe not the most important part. (Galahad) Is one an STS tool and the other an STO tool?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (Galahad) Thanks guys! That's real clear!
A: This is an issue that will clarify itself soon enough.
Q: (L) Is my idea correct that we can identify the presence of these more-or-less technologies by the architecture or art or megalithic structures of the different groups on the planet?
A: To some extent, yes. But do not let that be the only clue. You might consider "lifestyle" as well as the presence and uses of metals; particularly gold vs. iron. [MJF: Gold was used a lot in Ancient Egypt for jewellery etc. whereas iron ore was mined and refined in Hittite Anatolia and used for chariots and weapons that were superior to those of the Egyptians. The ancient Egyptians hardly used iron if at all since they had no access to readily available iron ore, whereas the Celts became masters of iron production, as would the Greeks and Romans later.]
If the Grail is the crystal skull Baphomet, then you would hardly describe it as technology as we understand the term. Like a crystal ball though, it would seem to be able to heighten a person's consciousness, perhaps like the Mitchell-Hedges (Mayan) quartz skull, which many people who have psychic abilities and have come into contact with it claim communicates with them telepathically. If so, it might explain why the Templars called the skull Baphomet, meaning the baptism of wisdom. Perhaps just being in its presence changes one's consciousness.
The second point is that the Grail is not
4D technology per se since the C's said it is a
trans-density device tuned by consciousness:
Q: (L) We were making some theories about this object that Vincent Bridges was looking for - the Ark of the Covenant, or the Holy Grail. I believe that we understand that this is an object that is of great usefulness, some kind of lensing device. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this something that the STS groups - yeah, we know everybody on earth is STS, but I mean the heavy duty ones - had at one time and then lost, or lost control of?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How did they lose it?
A: It was not so much "lost" as it was "retrieved" and put away for safe keeping.
Q: (R & L) Who retrieved it?
A: 4th density STO mission.
Q: (L) Who is it that is looking for it? Is it 3rd density STS or 4th density?
A: Both.
Q: (L) If it is a 3rd density device why do 4th density critters want it?
A: It is a trans-density device.
Q: (L) Well if 4th density STS are so technically advanced how come they can't just make another one?
A: This item is tuned by consciousness. It is of such a frequency that STS gifts are not capable of such precision. The range includes multiple possibility vectors. STS operates within a narrow range.
Q: (R) So they can't make it, but they can use it. So they have to find one that is already created. (L) Is that possible? (A) Operated by consciousness. (L) They said tuned not operated. First of all we want to ask whether they mean tuned as in tuned when it was created or as tuned as in using. (A) There is this scenario that they will wait until the STO guy will find it and tune it, and still only then they will jump on 'em. (L) Right. Do you mean tuned as in the tuning of the creation or the tuning of the operation?
A: Creation.
Now, part of Gaby's concern may be that the Grail is a much sought after object, especially by what Laura describes above as the STS "heavy duty ones". These may include, amongst others, the Illuminati, the inner circle of the Rosicrucians, as well as the Enclave of Alchemists in the Pyrenees (these groups may even be linked at one level - think of' circles within circles' here). We know this is the case from the transcripts:
Session 2 December 2000:
Q: (L) What were they up to? What about the people who came to the door? Were they sent for monitoring purposes?
A: Yes. Moles team.
Q: (BT) As in covert or undercover?
A: Yes. Motor handled.
Q: (L) Does this mean they are machines? They did a really good imitation of Sammy Davis Jr. (A) I want to go back to who is responsible for placing these monitors.
A: Illuminati Nacionale knights.
Q: (A) That sounds Italian. Hmmm.
And:
(L) It's like Vincent Bridges. His whole game was based on pushing our buttons, trying to blackmail us, saying things like "I'll tell the whole sordid story." Well, guess what? I'll tell it first! I'm not perfect and I have certainly made mistakes. But nobody is going to use it to control me. If other people could do that, if they could get over their fear of being judged for making mistakes, there would be nothing that anyone could hold over their head anymore.
(A) Okay, there is Bush and his Skull and Bones. And then, there is the Illuminati. And they are looking for something. So, probably somebody behind Bush is also looking for something. So, the only way for us to help, is to work on this project. And then, hopefully, these people will halt this mass destruction hoping they will get what they are after: grail or whatever. Because if they destroy the world, they will get nothing.
I mention the Roscirucians here because Patrice Chaplin in her book City of Secrets discovered inadvertently on her part that the Rosicrucians, in the form of their Grand Master Jean Cocteau, were desperate to get their hands on the Grail so much so that Cocteau arranged for the old French woman's (Abbe Berenger Sauniere's mistress) house to be demolished stone by stone to try and find it, leading Chaplins' lover Jose Tarres to exclaim upon seeing the resulting wreckage that "the Rosicrucians act "like thieves in the night". When I saw that statement, I sat up in amazement since it echoed exactly what the C's had said about the Rosicrucians when they moved against the Knights Templar in 1307, no doubt motivated by their wish to get their hands on the Ark/Grail:
Q: Who or what brought about the end of the Knights of the Temple?
A: Rosicrucians move as a "thief in the night."
Q: (L) But, as I understand it, the Rosicrucians did not come into being until after the end of the Templars...
A: No.
Was it just coincidence that the two statements match concerning the actions of the Rosicruicans? I think not since it shows that even 650 years later, the Rosicrucians are still determined to lay their hands on the Grail.
It might also help to know that according to two British authors via information they received from an active British spy, British Intelligence maintains a whole room dedicated to the area of Rennes-le-Chateau and it goes without saying that the British overseas Intelligence service (MI6) is saturated with Freemasons, including in the past the notorious Burgess, Philby and Maclean and the James Bond author Ian Fleming (where the initials JB stood for Joachim and Boaz, the two pillars that stood at the entrance to the Temple of Jerusalem).
There is no question that the Grail, like the Ark, is a hot potato judging from what the C's said about the Ark here:
Q: Ummm, in reading this funny book I just finished {I believe it was “Fingerprints of the Gods” by Graham Hancock}, I discovered that there is the tradition of the Ark of the Covenant being in Ethiopia. This guy did a bunch of research on it, and it seems possible that it is there, and that it may even be active. Is it, in fact, in the church of St. Mary of Zion in Ethiopia?
A: No.
Q: Where is it?
A: If we were to reveal this to you, it would be akin to giving a hand grenade to a baby!!
So, I completely understand Gaby's reticence about the subject. However, I can't change the fact that the C's once said:
Q: Yeah, when I saw that picture on his webpage, I knew he'd been projecting that. He was sitting there focusing on it so I would see it. I told you, I showed it to you, didn't I? That was what I saw, that twisted up figure 8 thing. [Laughter.] I couldn't figure it out, what in the world it was. Is there an object buried in France I'm supposed to find?
A: Yes.
Q: Are we going to find it?
A: Yes.
Q: Can you tell us what year we'll be finding it.
A: Two (tape ended and was blank for some time then picked back up with a segment of what sounded like a heartbeat)
Q: What is the object?
A: Holy grail.
I suspect that we may soon be heading into an age of chaos given the C's recent warning that we are entering into strange times. The recent bizarre actions of President Trump may now be heralding these times (the 'Last Trump[et]'
) as he prepares an attack on Iran even as I write and there is even a cold weather bomb about to hit western Europe, which makes me think of what the C's once said about the book and movie
The Day After Tomorrow:
Q: Whitley Strieber and Art Bell have published a book about a "global superstorm." Is any of the information they have given in this book fairly accurate?
A: Derived from non-human sources known for stark accuracy, when convenient.
In connection with the finding of the Grail, you sagely asked "Us being on 3rdD, what could we do about it?" Well the answer may be that it will only be discovered on the point of transition to 4D when the situation on Earth and the environment will be completely different and human consciousness will by then have changed profoundly. The C's said that the Nephilim will at the point of transition be against everyone, which I guess includes the STS Illuminati and the Rosicrucians etc. too. They may therefore have more things to worry about at that time than finding the Grail and/or the Ark. The C's may have given some support to this idea here:
Q: So, we are back to something else. I once asked about the Third Man Theme and that perhaps you meant that the imagery was that of the Triple Goddess relating to the Isle of Man … and you said ‘if viewed through sheets of rain.’ So, in this book that I am reading, it talks about the fact that the Celts of Gaul worshipped the Rain as the manifestation of the Goddess, and the Celts of Scotland worshipped the Sun … the male God. Does this relate in any way to this remark you made about sheets of rain?
A: In an offhand way.
Q: Anything further you can tell me in terms of a clue about ‘sheets of rain?’
A: Not for now, when you get there, you will find the chalice.
Q: Where and WHAT chalice?
A: Wait and see!
I may be wrong about this but the Holy Grail has usually been linked in Christian mythology to the chalice that Christ used at the Last Supper and the C's reference here to a chalice may be a cryptic reference to the Grail. I also think that the notion of the Triple Goddess itself (although linked subsequently by the C's to plasma discharges - "A: Also consider plasma shapes including those that may appear "chalice like")" may be an indirect reference to the Grail, as I explained in an earlier post.
Quartz crystal is a fantastic medium for depositing vast amounts of information; much better than silicon chips as used in current computers. I don't know if Baphomet is made from pure quartz but if it is, then it could contain an incredible library of information dating back over 80,000 years. This alone would make it an invaluable asset even before you factor in its other qualities such as the ability to manifest. I would add that the Grail is only as useful as the minds or consciousness of the people using it will permit. Hence, it may be of much less value to STS orientated forces than those who have a more STO disposition. This notion reflects in the Grail legends and tales that one had to be of pure heart to approach it - hence the grail quests were as much about discovering one's self during the quest (think here of the naïve Perceval) as actually finding the Grail.
So, the use of the Grail is not like using some 4D magic machine or technology where you press a button to bring it into action but involves instead the human mind or consciousness interfacing with it. Remember that the C's said this was a device that could be "used to aid in the manifestation of all things needful for existence". It may therefore aid in what is described in the transcripts as "technospirituality", as recognised by Laura:
Session 22 February 2010:
Q: (L) Okay, here's this other question:
"
That was really an interesting article posted by Psyche [on the Cassiopaea.org forum]. The authors implied that cereal agriculture is a recent innovation among human beings, only developed in the last 10 thousand years. Maybe the question for the C's is whether earlier civilizations ate any cereal grains at all, or whether they even practiced agriculture as we know it today. Or, did earlier civilizations have information that we don't have because they weren't being influenced by cereal grain diets?"
A: We wonder why this reader has not read the transcripts or your writings as the answer is there.
Q: (L)
You mean like the 19-year cycle and
the mother stone [
Grail] and the whole transdimensional thing that I wrote about in Secret History?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) In other words, what you're saying is that they
did not practice agriculture. Is that correct?
A:
Yes.
Q: (L) And that cereal agriculture and agriculture in general and as a whole is something that has been developed only in the last 10 thousand years and is as a result of our so-called "fall" from that state wherein we could practice
technospirituality. Is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (Perceval)
Techno-agro-spirituality!
A:
Soon to be restored!
Q: (L) In other words, when in 3rd density without the ability to exercise techno-spirituality, one does what one must. Is that basically it?
A: Yes.
Q: (Bubbles) We used to do techno-spirituality?
(L) Yeah, humanity, yeah.
(Bubbles) So,
we've regressed so much that we can't anymore? [MJF: Although the Maruts appeared to be able to do it!]
A:
That and change in cosmic environment.
Q: (L) So it's a change in cosmic environment or vibrations or something.
(Bubbles) But the vibrations are gonna change back soon, right?
A: Yes.
Q: (Bubbles) Cool!
(Andromeda) And then we can materialize our own food and it'll be good for us.
(Perceval)
Materialize our own healthy food.
(Mr. Scott) We'll be able to manifest healthy pizzas!!
A:
Yes
Q: (Mr. Scott) Whoa, SWEET!!! And it will even taste like mozzarella cheese?!
A: Yes if you wish!
Q: (Mr. Scott) Oh my god...
(Bubbles) We'll be our own genies?
A: More or less.
Food for thought eh! [deliberate pun intended
]
