Session 23 November 2024

[Wandering Star]

hat I'm trying to tell is a bion, viroid, somatide or microzyma are (maybe) the best candidates precursors of cells and virus, and sure they are trans-density.

I agree With this too.

At the moment.

 

[cbi]

I agree With this too.

Have you read Hilarion (physicist Maurice Borden Cooke) books? I think there is a nice and neat “track” to follow about inert gases & alchemy.

 

[Ricardo]

Could you please, Senhor Ricardo, re-elaborate or expand it? I've only read Occult Chemistry (from Besant/Jinarajadasa), and it is a good book about the primordial atoms (seen with the Yogui's Mind Eye) and how the physical matter, recognized in the mainstream scientific model, is formed by this agglomeration of “átomos ultérrimos” (“quantum” particles?).

Apologies , of course meant Occult Chemistry ( thinking of one and wrote the other ) , C. Webster talks of the physical / ethereal (?) connection as a system in books such as " The Chakras " , of which i have a Spanish digital version ( pics. from page 22 , 23 , 24) :







However having lived in India for a period C. Webster's works are steeped in Eastern terminology and his writings reflect it extensively , also there's no explicit mention of densities as such.

 

[Ricardo]

Apologies , of course meant Occult Chemistry ( thinking of one and wrote the other ) , C. Webster talks of the physical / ethereal (?) connection as a system in books such as " The Chakras " , of which i have a Spanish digital version ( pics. from page 22 , 23 , 24) :

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However having lived in India for a period C. Webster's works are steeped in Eastern terminology and his writings reflect it extensively , also there's no explicit mention of densities as such.

Fwiiw , elemental atoms ( " átomos ultérrimos” ) are mentioned in the transcripts , which are a part of Charles W. works :

Session 29 March 1997 :

(...)

Q: (Laura) What is an elemental atom, as opposed to an ordinary atom?

A: Elemental defines singular body of structure. Within, as in: "element of." Electron is element of atomic structure.

(...)

 

[cbi]

However having lived in India for a period C. Webster's works are steeped in Eastern terminology and his writings reflect it extensively , also there's no explicit mention of densities as such.

It's true: there is no explicit mention to the concept of Densities. But if you join Jinarajadasa's Yogui vision of physical elements with Walter Ruseell Periodic Table, it emerges implicit (Alphanons are the elemental atoms, «átomos ultérrimos»):

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I'm not an individual which qualified to the Latin phrase: HOMINEM VNIVS LIBRI. I try to study other channeled material, beside Ra, Oahspe (if you read the unabridged version from 1891, you'll be amazed at the “War in Heaven” and the sound nuances and references you can establish with the C's material) and recently Hilarion (physicist Cooke). (Careful, Senhor Ricardo, please note that there is another channeled material with the same “author,” with disinformation, IMHO.)

At the moment.

Cooke/Hilarion renders a model of Fourth Density as a “canvas” for Third Density' physical elements, something like the “String Theory.” Also it is explained with simple terms that, the idea that Light can be described as both a wave and a particle —a concept known as wave-particle duality— is a “big mistake” of mainstream science due to the reluctance to include the æther (as a “supra-plane”) in its cosmological model.

You see, æther has been defined as the origin of the “æthereal ships” since the writtings of Meade Layne (The Coming of the Guardians [1956] and The Ether Ship Mystery and its Solution [1957]), and there you are the first explicit references to Densities, the UFO's Mat & DeMat properties by altering its frequency and the etheric entities based in “subtle atoms.”

But the sound point here and the importance of the Hilarion material is the “bone-marrow“ of the Noble Gases in the aforementioned Table of Elements. Noble gases have a closed electron shell, which makes it impossible for them to form chemical bonds, even in crystalline structures, which is why they are “monatomic gases.” So Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton and Xenon are the Seth's co-ordinate points? Krypton (Kr) has a higher mass number than Iron (Fe): With iron you build an anchor that sinks deep, but krypton rises into the air. What's hide in that closed electron shells?

Actually, our scientific knowlegde explain us that the Sun contains significant amounts of Helium, which is the result of the nuclear fusion that occurs within it. And and the lunar exosphere contains Argon, Neon and Krypton. Hilarion material proposes that in an ionized state, they can produce, besides Light, healing effects. And that maybe close, indeed very close, related with your cite:

Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?
A: Our center.
Q: (L) What is your center?
A: Our realm. STO.

The ionized light during the full moon is generated by the Sun: its cold light-waves ionize the Moon's exosphere, whose flow bathes the Earth. Perhaps the dew can contain that influence.

Remember the Emerald Tablet? “The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.”

 

[Claus]

Re: Nobelgases...
There are some conditiones, in which they can react and build molecules.

 

[cbi]

There are some conditiones, in which they can react and build molecules.

Mr. Claus, could you kindly expand it? I'm very interested in the building of molecules (particularly organic ones) with inert gases; I'm working to understand the model that the French thanatologist and physician Hubert Larcher (1921-2008) proposed in his La Memoire du Soleil.

 

[Claus]

One of the conditions would be temperature, if it is cold enough and especially with bigger atoms, you would find (statisitically) more electrons on one side of the atom, as on the other one (dipolemoment). In that case the atom is on one side more negative charged, then on the other side. And in order to get to an equilibrium they will bond.

Edit: small corrections.

 

[cbi]

One of the conditions would be temperature, if it is cold enough and especially with bigger atoms, you would find (statisitically) more electrons on one side of the atom, as on the other one (dipolemoment). In that case the atom is on one side more negative charged, then on the other side. And in order to get to an equilibrium they will bond.

Really appreciate your help. Considering your aforementioned conditions about temperature: This could happen in living bodies? Is it possible the myroblytes (μνροβλντης: the bearers of the smell of myrrh), also named as muvoblútai in the book Los Fenómenos Físicos del Misticismo (in Spanish: óleos santos, echa-ungüentos, “holy oils”) were a compound of fatty acids with inert gases?

 

[Claus]

Normally it would be much to cold for a living creature, but maybe if it is (Kr), Xe or Rn there is a chance that the dipolmoment will happen. But that is only speculation. I look what I can find about that, because I only tell you what I have learned in school and that was a while ago..

Edit: I found something: XePtF6..

 

[Claus]

Because of the timeout for Editing:

It looks like PtF₆ can take an electron from the nobelgases Kr, Xe and Rn and in this way the nobelgases can react.
In the first ever documented case it was the Salt XeF₂ in a mix with PtF₅.

 

[cbi]

because I only tell you what I have learned in school and that was a while ago..

Kudos for your school: it was time well spent. Please, Herr Claus, correct me if I'm wrong, but PtF₅ (pentafluoroplatinate) isn't an organic compound 'cos it hasn't C atoms...

As there is some inert gases in our atmosphere, what I'm trying to find is how Gurdjieff's Si H₁₂ (exioëharys) are converted thru Chi/Qi's breathing, i.e. through the Fourth Way's “second being-food,” into myroblytes; and once this “holy oils” pass from the bone marrow to the blood, they start to form the infans solaris (the androgynal filius philosophorum).

 

[Wandering Star]

alchemy

I'm not interested.

 

[cbi]

I'm not interested.

Duly noted.

 

[Claus]

It is not an organig molecule, that is right, but I think that it could be possible to let it react to something organig, in order to produce some organic material.
Maybe if you look deeper in this, you will find some way...