Session Date: September 27th 2025
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, Possibility of Being, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Falkor, Bella
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Q: (L) Well, I guess we ought to get ourselves wound up here and get started and put that puppy dog down. Okay. Today is Saturday the 27th of September 2025. Usual suspects present. [Review of those present] So I guess we...
A: Jakillia here from transmission point Cassiopaea. Greetings to all.
Q: (L) Do you have anything particular to tell us before we get started with questions?
A: Make it a point to keep a low profile from here on. Things are about to get stranger than you can imagine.
Q: (L) Does that mean on social media?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So, a low profile about... Do we have to stop talking about Israel? Should we?
A: It would be best.
Q: (L) Should we delete our social media accounts which are full of our rants about Israel?
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) Delete our accounts or just the posts?
A: Posts if possible.
Q: (Joe) So the more inflammatory, accusatory, pointed posts referring to specifically Israel and Jewish deep-stater type things?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) But other things we can talk about?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, does that mean that other people are going to have to do it too? I mean like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens?
A: Let them handle it. They are better protected. In your case, knowledge protects.
Q: (Joe) Is our forum okay for posting whatever we want?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Just not public.
(Scottie) What about SOTT? That's loaded with...
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) SOTT is okay.
(Joe) So it's individual...
(L) ...Individuals that can be targeted. Well, before we get onto these other questions, I know everybody's dying for this $64,000 question to be asked, but I had a couple of questions on my mind this afternoon that I wanted to ask and if I don't ask them now I won't get to. I was thinking about people who are involved in a close way with say, organic portals - I mean as a spouse or a close friend or a child or whatever. And what I was wondering is when a person, a souled person dies and they were married to an OP, can they look down on the Earth and their former partners or whatever and tell that they are OPs? I mean do they look any different or seem any different?
A: Yes to both.
Q: (L) Well, if they look different, what does that mean?
A: There is a genetic imprint and a "spirit" glow of life force, but not the soul identifier that makes everyone unique if they are souled.
Q: (L) Well, do pets have identifiers like soul identifiers of humans, or do they just have the genetic thing and the life force?
A: Many pets and other non-human creatures have soul imprints.
Q: (L) But not all.
A: No
Q: (L) And it would probably be a very tedious task to go through and ask about all the different ones that do or do not, right?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And we don't want to spend that time on that.
A: No
Q: (L) When a person has passed over and they possibly are still hanging around, like for example their residence or their former family or whatever, and you have the idea that they can come and be in your kitchen, say, while you're cooking or sitting at the table or having dinner or whatever, or when you're walking around your yard. I mean, you read all the time about people doing different things and they feel the presence of their deceased loved one. So my question is do they - y'all are just waiting for this, aren't you? Do they hang around if you're in bed and doing things with your husband or wife? I mean, are they spying on you? [laughter]
A: Yes. But not exactly as you think. Though there [are] troubled souls with sex or other bodily addictions that are magnetized by such activities.
Q: (L) So if you're, say, drinking or doing drugs or having sex or any kind of... I suppose somebody could be addicted to running and if you're running, they hang around you. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So it is basically...
(Andromeda) You're never alone.
(L) You're never alone. And it's a jungle out there.
A: Yes
Q: (L) All right then. So...
(Joe) The things you think about, Laura...
(L) Well, things pass through my head!
(Andromeda) That's unsettling.
(Joe) That'd be one of those other curious people hanging around and making you curious.
(L) So it's a curious soul hanging around, making me curious.
(Joe) Exactly, yeah. [laughter]
(L) Everyone wants to know if Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk?
A: No
Q: (L) There we're done. [laughter]
(Joe) Goodnight!
(Andromeda) The rest is up to you.
(Joe) Was Charlie Kirk shot by someone in the position that they said Tyler Robinson was in?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Did something explode in close proximity to him?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Was it something in his wireless mic?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Was it placed there by his security?
A: The rifle sound was produced by a rifle that was connected to a remote firing system linked to the same controller that was used to set off the explosive that killed Charlie. This was meant to provide a distraction for agents to remove incriminating evidence from the area around Charlie.
Q: (Joe) So instead of somebody firing a shot to make it sound like it came from Robinson, it was an automatic like...
(L) Well, somebody could have been holding it...
(Joe) Somebody could have been holding it, but it could have been an automated rifle set up in a window or something...
(Andromeda) Just to make the sound...
(Joe) ...to fire shot in the air. It was connected with the same control mechanism that detonated the thing in his mic. So the shot and the explosion in this thing happened simultaneously, which obviously isn't hard to do, right?
(Andromeda) Right.
(Joe) And they said that it was meant to provide a distraction for agents to remove incriminating evidence from the area around Charlie. I don't really get that, but...
(Niall) That means some of the guys who responded to the table were suspect, were part of it as people suspect, but not in the way that they...
(Joe) So this device that was used, it didn't create any visible damage to his chest area. You thought that would've been...
(L) Well, we didn't see his chest.
(Joe) Well, but you would've thought that if it was some kind of explosive, it would very quickly cause bleeding on his shirt or whatever bleed through, right? But it was very quick.
(L) If it sent a projectile, let's see, it was on the right side and his left carotid artery. So if it was here and it sent something up explosively, it could have gone just, I mean, not very deep...
(Joe) The wound we saw on him in the video, was that an exit wound?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is this a more advanced version of what the Israelis did in Lebanon last year?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So was it effectively a bullet within the microphone case?
A: Not a "bullet" exactly.
Q: (Joe) Okay. Some kind of projectile.
Q: (L) A projectile?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And the people who made this, did they test it on someone beforehand?
A: Dummies.
Q: (Joe) And is this just this amorphous, transnational deep state type group? Is that who we are talking about that's behind this? Within the US working in Israel's interest and American deep state interest. Is that who is behind this?
A: More or less.
Q: (Joe) What was the name of the old guy?
(Niall) George Zinn.
(Joe) Was he a deliberate plant?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So he actually works for these people or is connected to them in some way?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And was Tyler Robinson actually in that area at the time on that day?
A: No
Q: (Joe) He wasn't even anywhere near?
A: No
Q: (Joe) So the guy on the roof was some agent?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Who looked a bit like Tyler Robinson or dressed to look like him?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And the automatic remote firing system for the rifle that fired the gunshot was in that general area where that kind of roof was, I suppose?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) But the guy on the roof didn't fire a shot?
A: No
Q: (L) But he probably was holding the gun.
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) Do we want to ask the main motive?
(Joe) Yeah. Are we correct in assuming that getting rid of Charlie Kirk wasn't the primary motive because of the way that it was done, that it could have been taken out any other more...?
A: Not primarily no.
Q: (L) Was the primary motivation the effect on the psyche of the American people or global people or whatever?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) One of the effects it seems - it's hard to know for sure, but by anecdotal reports - is that a lot of people have turned back to or rekindled their relationship with Christianity at the church. Was that an intended effect?
A: That is a 4D part.
Q: (L) So 4th density STS want people to get all religious and looshy?
A: Mostly. But be aware that there are also some people that turn to religion and do not become part of the feeding mechanism.
Q: (L) So they're just good Christians and doing the right thing. Because let's face it: Christianity and religions in many respects have a beneficial effect on society if it's done right, right?
A: Yes. But it is so seldom done right.
Q: (L) Okay. So those are a minority.
(Joe) In the last session they said... I think I asked if the program change that was planned to be the assassination of Trump that didn't happen, if they had another one planned, another program change plan? In the last session they said, "upcoming". Was the Charlie Kirk assassination that?
A: Yes
Q: (L) I forgot about that.
(Joe) And also in the last session they said that extra protection had been activated or something for people furthering knowledge. So are we to assume that Charlie Kirk wasn't among those furthering knowledge because he wasn't protected?
A: He might have done so much more and that is part of the motivation for selecting him as a target.
Q: (L) So, well, I guess you know what they just told us a while ago that knowledge protects and they were giving us information that could be protective, and Charlie didn't have that kind of view of the world yet. He was only just really starting, I think, to wake up to what was really going on. I mean, he was a really beautiful, beautiful young man and he was sincere and he was honest and he was principled, which came out from his refusal to be bought out and told what to say and who to have on his show and so forth. And that in and of itself, I think, couldn't be tolerated by those forces. So...
(Joe) For example, Benjamin Netanyahu, was he aware of the plot to kill Charlie?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) He's read in on these things. And people's instinct was to call him up for it.
(Joe) Yeah, but is there a positive element to this in the sense that a lot of people are becoming more curious?
A: Ultimately, yes indeed!!
Q: (Niall) They've said in the past that a Batman movie that was released in 2012-ish, which had references to the Sandy Hook shooting in the movie, even though it came out beforehand, was an instance of the Cosmic Mind sending many clues ahead of time. With the Charlie Kirk shooting, there's a 1998 Hollywood movie called Snake Eyes that has loads of similarities with the Kirk assassination. Was this another instance of that?
A: Yes there are many such instances.
Q: (Joe) Is Erica Kirk legitimate?
A: A bit shady. Notice her current behavior.
Q: (Joe) Right, but she wasn't part of that or aware of the plot to kill Charlie?
A: No
Q: (L) I mean, are all of y'all kind of keeping an eye on Twitter where they show her repeatedly in different situations? I mean, not just the rally after the death of Charlie, but taking over the whole TPUSA and... I mean, if you're not aware of it, the question is not for you, but my question to all of you is: Can any of you imagine yourself in her situation acting as she is acting? I mean, really try to put yourself in her shoes. Anybody? I guess not. So, I couldn't imagine it.
(Andromeda) No, not at all.
(L) I mean, she's got two little babies and...
(Andromeda) And she's already up puttin' on a show.
(Chu) It goes against her whole spiel about being a quiet wife and all that.
(Joe) Is Kash Patel aware of the truth about Charlie's assassination?
A: Kash is not in the loop.
Q: (Niall) This is what you said earlier.
(L) Did you say that?
(Niall) He said something like that several days ago. He was joking that, oh, here's Kash finding out what the FBI was told, but he's learning like the rest of us what the FBI said.
(Joe) He's on camera going, "Sorry, I can't tell you any of that because they won't let me. They won't give me information." Aren't you the director? "Yeah. I'm kind of new. There's people who've been here for a long time and they kind of run the show and I'm just a noob." [laughter]
(L) Yeah. He got in there and found out that just being the director was... if you don't have the other outside connections, you're never going to get inside. I am sure everybody has seen that happen in the corporate environment or any kind of job where somebody new comes along.
(Niall) Is the governor of Utah in the loop on this issue?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) I guess that's why they did it in that state.
(Niall) It's like Stepford Wives, that area, at least from what Candace is finding. The whole place is like the Latterday Saints, it's the university, it's the CIA. It's this engineering company that everyone either works for or knows someone who works for.
(Joe) It's an old boys club.
(Andromeda) Creepy.
(Joe) So the device that was the manipulated mic on Charlie's shirt, it contained a small amount of explosives like C4?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And that was made in such a way that it wouldn't do much damage to the front of his chest when it exploded?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) And it was placed on him by a member of his security detail.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So TPUSA was infiltrated by this group?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Well, that's understandable because it was made by them.
(L) Why did the shirt billow out in the back?
A: The explosion created a limited shock wave that was shaped and contained by the t-shirt itself allowing the shock to travel around his shoulders and torso.
Q: (Joe) You're talking about a very small amount of explosive.
(L) Yeah but C4 is really powerful.
(Joe) But at that close proximity, it doesn't take a lot of it to...
(L) No.
(Joe) And you don't need a lot of force or speed to get it from here to the other side of your head.
(L) Yeah, the thing... I mean, his chest was flatter, obviously. I mean, it's hard for me to do it on my own chest. I got bazooms and stuff, but if you have something in it there, oh, wait a minute, it's on the right side.
(Niall) Now, they say that was an exit wound so it went through his neck.
(Andromeda) Yeah, that's probably why it ballooned up like that in that frame.
(Niall) That may be why he had an apparent decorticate thing where the neck was severed. People assume by a bullet. It may actually have cut his neck.
(Andromeda) Right.
(L) Well, are we done with it?
(Niall) One last thing, how do I say this? In the immediate aftermath, at least among the portion of population that is interested in these things, there was a very pronounced popular blink that Israel has something to do with it. The Israeli government kind of accidentally, it seems, fueled that by having Netanyahu himself post about it frequently, and then issue TWO denials.
A: The guilty flee when none pursue.
Q: (Joe) I was thinking of writing that in response to Netanyahu. I think I did, but I thought, well, people ARE pursuing it.
(L) Yeah, but he kind of brought it on himself.
(Joe) He protested a bit too much. But it was in response to a lot of people immediately saying, "Israel did it!"
(L) All right.
(Chu) Somebody on the chat is asking if Trump knows what happened?
A: No. Trump is also not in the loop.
Q: (Chu) Arwenn mentioned the drones. Did you want to ask something about it?
(Joe) Oh yeah, were there drones?
(L) Oh wait, wait a minute. But what happened to our picture? [Our video was turned off for some reason - reactivated!]
(Joe) Were there any drones similar to the drone allegedly over Butler?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And given that there was no patsy there, what was the purpose of those drones?
A: Observation. How do you know there was no "patsy"?
Q: (Joe) Because they said that Tyler Robinson wasn't there.
(Chu) Yeah, but he's still a patsy.
(Joe) Well, it was based on the idea that at Butler, Crooks was there, and they said it was kind of like mind control waves or something. I'm assuming that...
(L) Yeah, but that makes him a patsy.
(Joe) Huh? That makes him a patsy at Butler. But they said that Tyler Robinson wasn't actually on scene. So I was asking what...
(L) You were asking about Butler.
(Joe) No.
(L) You were asking about Butler.
(Joe) Okay. No, I wasn't asking about Butler. I was saying similar to Butler. Were there drones at the...
(L) You were asking if there were drones at Butler.
(Niall) No, no, that's what he meant.
(L) Okay. You asked me if drones were here like they were at Butler and so it's "Yes", right?
(Joe) This is, yes, they said observation, but they asked how do you know? And they followed up. But...
(L) But then you said something about there was no patsy at Butler.
(Joe) No.
(Andromeda) He was saying in THIS instance, why was there a drone if there was no patsy to activate because in Butler, the drone was there to activate the patsy. So he was saying in this case, if there wasn't a patsy physically present, why was there a necessity for the drone?
(L) Well, I heard different, and that's what the C's heard.
(Joe) Okay. Well, they said it was for observation, but maybe they're saying something different... Was there a patsy at Charlie Kirk's assassination?
(Chu) Well, indirectly it is.
(L) They created him.
(Joe) He wasn't on the scene, but whatever. Carry on.
(Andromeda) He was at the Dairy Queen.
(Joe) Exactly.
(L) Was he supposed to be on the scene?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Did he just not go for some reason?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So they had to rush a substitute in?
A: Something like that. There were also a lot more videos than "they" would like. It is all getting very messy in the public mind and "something must be done."
Q: (L) "Something must be done" doesn't sound good...
(Gaby) They're gonna kill him.
(L) I mean, it is not like the JFK assassination.
(Andromeda) No.
(L) I mean it is, but it isn't because I mean, then people were so naive and innocent. They believed everything, but they've used the same playbook so many times now and then things have come out and...
(Joe) Well, on that point, what percentage of the population in America suspect that the official story about Charlie Kirk's assassination is not the truth?
A: Over 70 percent.
Q: (Niall) You see, you've gotta have more faith in your fellow man! For the working classes. [laughter] This guy's always like, man, only 10% even think about these things.
(Gaby) It's the same number that Grok gave... on your Substack when you were talking about the control system.
(Joe) It doesn't mean they're going to do anything about it.
(Niall) No, I know, but it doesn't mean that the thought has crossed the mind and that thought has mass weight.
(L) There's so many people that know that everything is all screwed up, but they won't say or do anything about it because they're just not in a position to. They have too much to lose. Only when they get to the point that they no longer have anything to lose, and that may come, that time may come.
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) But what I was getting at earlier with Netanyahu, and he's obviously unaware. Do they have any understanding that they're creating the mass resistance?
A: No. Wishful thinking is their Achilles heel.
Q: (L) Remember what Lobaczewski said? He said that the pathocrats always think that they can force people by hook or crook or by newer and better methods of control to submit to their wishes and to force them to believe what they're being gaslighted to believe. But it never works. They always try it and they always think it's going to work and it never works. And so it has been throughout history.
(Joe) Although certainly there must be some pressure that they really are feeling, or those people who support Israel or run the Israeli agenda. Surely they're feeling a little bit of pressure, like the walk out at the UN and stuff, that they figure they can handle a lot, do you think?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They think they can, and that's why I guess we need to be aware that something's going to happen. "Something must be done."
(Joe) Exactly. That's what I mean. Yeah. That is a reaction to them feeling that they need... that their backs are against the wall in a certain sense.
(L) Right. And when their backs get against the wall, things get ugly.
(Niall) They just forced Trump to let them... I'll be careful with "them" -he happens to be a big Jewish billionaire- to let them buy TikTok so, like that. That's one big platform, but then it is so narrow. It's wishful thinking because they think, "Hmm, let's just buy TikTok and we'll fix it. We'll fix it outwardly, make it go away."
(Joe) Is there a plan to do something about this, the awareness that a lot people are having about the Charlie Kirk assassination, that the official story wasn't true? Is their plan to do something to distract from that? Because it's still kind of ongoing...
A: Yes.
Q: (Andromeda) It's pretty fresh.
(Joe) Like blowing up the Middle East, maybe?
A: Or worse.
Q: (Niall) Russia... These drones...
(Joe) War in Russia? Worse than blowing up the Middle East...
(L) All right. Have we done it to death now? No pun intended! Anybody got anything else?
(Chu) Don't even try to read the chat, unless you want to ask the question.
(L) Any good questions that came up there if we go from the top? Geez, you guys must not be paying attention if you're doing all that writing.
(Chu) "Was there an entry wound?" Yeah, there would have been.
(L) All right, so forget it. So first questions:
(Laurs) Was the death in January 2025 of Prof. Dr. Francis A. Boyle, a healthy US law professor who suddenly died under undisclosed circumstances just 3 weeks after testifying as an expert witness in the potential landmark “Covid-19" lawsuit pending before the District Court in The Netherlands, due to natural causes?
A: No.
Q: (Laurs) If not, how was he killed?
A: Close contact induced aneurysm.
Q: (Niall) Which is an example of what they can do if they want to.
(L) And if they want you to die privately.
(Niall) Yeah, quietly.
(Joe) That's the problem with going with Occam's razor, that the simplest explanation of these things is always the most likely. That doesn't take into consideration what's simple for these people to do. Do you know what I mean?
(L) I think the Israelis just got carried away with the success of their pagers, and they just thought, "Wow, wasn't that fun?!"
(Andromeda) Look, they gave a gold pager to Trump and they were so proud of it!
(L) And that was just before Charlie Kirk was killed, right?
(Niall) No, the pagers was last year, but the day before, they had attempted to take out the Hamas leadership in Qatar, which was a new thing, because they had never bombed a US ally before.
(Joe) They're getting very flagrant. But yeah, Charlie Kirk being assassinated that way... it just has Israeli pagers written all over.
(Andromeda) Totally.
(L) Okay. Follow up:
(Laurs) If he was indeed killed, were the usual alphabet agencies involved?
A: Yes.
Q: (Laurs) Was the court case in Holland in any way significant to the decision to kill him?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. The background, all of that will be in the transcript.
(Gaby) Seismic tomography reveals 2 giant “blobs” in the lowermost mantle, one beneath Africa and one beneath the Pacific. They sprawl across 30% of the core-mantle boundary area, with spatial scales on the order of 1000s (km) in width, and up to 1000 km above it. These blobs exhibit lower than average seismic wave speeds, thus they are named "Large low-velocity provinces (LLVPs)”. What is their origin?
A: Internal heating.
Q: (Gaby) What role are they playing, if any, in current Earth changes?
A: Heating up, destabilization, opening up for the reception of cosmic waves.
Q: (Gaby) TES (The Ethical Skeptic) has a hypothesis based on these blobs and posits that Earth's core and mantle dynamics drive periodic rotational instabilities, leading to true polar wander events.
[Background info: Exothermic Core-Mantle Decoupling - Dzhanibekov Oscillation (ECDO) Theory]
A: Partly involved, yes.
Q: (Gaby) He claims that a weakening of the core mantle magnetic coupling causes heat from the Earth's core into the mantle, excluding these blobs. This makes the rest of the mantle denser than the blobs, contributing to:
- Loss of current influence in the position of our geographic North Pole
- Increase in sea surface temperature and in the Earth's axis of rotation
- Shift in the planet's rotation around its maximum axis (the denser mantle)
- Increasing the chances of a True Polar Wander event with an axis of gyroscopic moment based upon the African blob.
A: Very close!
Q: (Gaby) A steady ocean pattern in the Gulf of Panama has failed for the first time in 40 years. Historically, sea surface temperatures drop between January and April, only that they didn't in 2025. What was the main factor involved in this anomaly?
(L) That is, the non dropping of the temperature. It didn't drop, it stayed hot.
(Andromeda) Right.
A: Look to the previously mentioned "blobs".
Q: (Gaby) Heating of the sea surface temperature. What is the nucleus size of 3I/ATLAS?
A: 8km
Q: (Gaby) Earth's 8th official quasi-moon...
(L) "Quasi-moon", I love that word, it's so quasi! [Laughter]
(Gaby) ...was discovered earlier this year, which is slightly smaller than the meteor that exploded over Chelyabinsk, Russia, in 2013. How long has it been in Earth's orbit?
A: Since 1996.
Q: (Gaby) Rupert Sheldrake explains, just as Pierre did in his book "Earth Changes", that the Earth is electrically charged in a negative direction in relation to the atmosphere. A tree is negatively charged, because it's connected to the soil through the sap growing up through the wood, which is electrically conductive, sticking up into the positive atmosphere. And so there's a big difference between the tree and the air around it, which means that the electric tips of the tree and of the branches and of the shoots attract positive ions and they affect the electric field all around them.
In 2012 we asked about a couple of 1500-years-old giant sequoias falling in California on September 2011 during a normal day. At that time comet Elenin was disintegrating after being hit by a coronal mass ejection in August 2011. We also mentioned Meager1's experience during a bizarre early snow storm that took place in New England on October 2011 and how so many trees fell. You said 'The two are related. The "opening up" of Earth has already exhibited a number of interesting repercussions...'
Pierre expanded on this “opening up” in his book “Earth Changes”, explaining how a grounding effect from Sol's companion results in a reduced atmospheric E-field and surface-core E-field.
Is this why we have lost so many trees in our garden in recent years?

A: Yes, and so have many others.
Q: (L) So a lot of people have lost trees because of these changes in the atmosphere.
(Niall) Well, the core/atmosphere relationship.
(Gaby) When we asked in August 2022 why was the rotation speed of the Earth recently increased by almost 1.6 milliseconds and you responded 'Grounding of the current!', could this mean that the Earth is now more spherical or less "wide" at the equator?
(L) Is that how that would work? When it goes faster, it would tighten up, or...
(Gaby) It's the angular momentum, because the mass is closer to the center of gravity.
(L) [to Ark] Is that true, honey ?
(Ark) I don't know.
(L) mkrnhr, do you know?
(mkrnhr) In theory, only if we discard the electric effects. So if it's rotating faster, more oblate. But it doesn't work for the Sun, for example.
(L) Okay. Anyway, the question is again, does this mean that the Earth is now more spherical or less wide at the equator?
A: Not sufficient increase for that to happen.
Q: (Mari) There is a lot of sightings of metallic looking spheres flying around the area of Buga in Colombia...
(L) Are these the same kind of spheres that are flying around airports?
(Joe) No, not necessarily. One of them was found, and the question is about the...
(L) Yeah, I know there's a picture.
[See picture below]
(Joe) And it was found. So the main thing is...
(L) But this is basically localized to Buga, Colombia?
(Gaby) Yeah.
(L) Nowhere else is it reported? Does anybody here know of any place else? No?
(Joe) Not one that landed, and they found it.
(L) Okay.
(Mari) Is the sphere that was found the same type as the one seen flying around?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then it has some unusual properties. So what is the cause of these unusual properties?
A: Bi-density object.
Q: (Joe) What is its purpose?
A: Monitoring.
Q: (Joe) It's a probe.
(Niall) There's markings on it.
(Harrison) Yeah. I wanted to ask about the markings, because when you look at a closeup of the markings, it's really clear that they're imprecise and it looks like they were carved in by a human hand. They don't look like a perfect crop circle or something like that. So I just wanted to ask what the significance of that is. Does that mean that those markings were added on by someone else, or it was just sloppily made?
A: Fading in and out gives a false impression.
Q: (Joe) So, transiting densities messes up the writing.
(L) It must be so!
(Joe) It was supposedly dated by carbon dating.
(L) Yeah. "Steven Greer reports that the resin in the Buga sphere is about 12,560 years old, according to the University of Georgia - Center for Applied Isotope studies."
A: No.
Q: (L) So that's wrong?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) And is that a function of it being bi-density, that you mess up the carbon dating?
A: Yes.
Q:(Niall) AND, Greer still has a 100% record of being wrong! [Laughter]
(L) Yeah!
(Niall) He's consistent, I give him that!
(L) What was the source of the drones over Copenhagen Airport last week?
(Joe) And can I add that today they were over Danish military basis, supposedly, as well?
(L)I heard there were also some over French...
(Joe) Possibly over a few other countries, France, Germany...
(Niall) But let's keep it separate. Because I suspect that's the ongoing "Russian drones" being tacked into it.
(L) But what about the drones that were in New Jersey?
(Chu) We asked about those already.
(Niall) Well, this is the thing, we think they're similar, but...
(Joe) No, hang on. So a few days ago, they shut down Copenhagen Airport because there was a drone or a few drones seen over it. And then today, so a few days later, similar drones, maybe not similar, but drones (lights in the sky) reported over military bases in Denmark, and possibly over France, or Germany...
(Chu) And definitely Oslo, Norway.
(Joe) Right, Norway, maybe... whatever, a few places. Just vague reports really. The main one was Denmark...
(Niall) Which was filmed.
(Joe) Yeah, lights in the sky, similar to New Jersey. But they've said consistently that there's no evidence that they're Russian. So...
(L) They've said that consistently...
(Joe) Yes, the Danish government has said that they have no evidence that this has anything to do with Russia. So the question is, what were those drones? Are they similar to what happened over New Jersey? Is there another flap?
(L) What happened in New Jersey?
(Joe) The drones in New Jersey last year, remember?
(L) Yeah, but I don't remember what that was.
(Joe) That was allegedly 37% alien drones, and 67% human drones flown up to muddy the water. And it was designed to just spook the population, and maybe be a preparatory step to some eventual "savior space brothers" coming to...
(L) All right. So we've got more drones. Are these similar in origin to the New Jersey drones?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Is it a kind of false flag to try and implicate Russia? Is it something along those lines?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So they're going to go there, eventually.
(Joe) And the Danish government was smart enough to go, "Hang on a minute, there's no evidence that this is the Russians." The Danes at least are not taking the bait.
(Chu) Yeah, but they're still saying, "We need to work with Ukraine, and..."
(Joe) But at least they're not saying, they're not jumping in with the... because there has been a concerted effort in the past while to try and implicate Russia, with Poland, Romania... anyway.
(L) Right. They've got all kinds of stuff going on.
(Niall) In the European media, they're telling Euro-Normies that Russia is basically in the process of invading Europe.
(L) And that's so ridiculous!
(Joe) Well, they can say that, but it's ridiculous. Yeah.
(Niall) The Danish government could say that, but the Danish media will just go with the flow. The insinuation of Russia is attached to all of these.
A: Again, for safety, keep a low profile on social media. Things are getting a little bit shaky.
Q: (L) So we can let other people do those things because they're in a better protected position.
(Joe) So don't talk about drones either.
(Niall) I think they mean don't be so pro-Russia because they're about to actually try and frame them for an atrocity, maybe?
(Joe) Should we not be so pro-Russian on social media? Is that another recommendation?
A: Carefully as she goes!
Q: (L) All right. Anybody got any last questions?
(Niall) What is the current death toll-ish in Gaza since Israel began bombing in 2023?
A: Nearly a million.
Q: (Andromeda) A lot more than what they're saying...
(Joe&Niall) Half its population.
(Chu) Luis is asking, what about the SOTT radio shows? We give names there. We have names there, on YouTube.
(Joe) There aren't many people who watch those.
(L) Yeah, I think they said that SOTT and the forum are basically okay. We can say what we want because...
(Joe) Yeah, but he's talking about YouTube, the shows on YouTube.
(Chu) And the fact that their names are there.
(L) Yeah, but once again...
(Joe) We can talk about stuff, but be careful on those shows. Because that's social media. YouTube is social media.
(L) Okay. Anything else?
(Joe) Just don't be outrageous. Don't blame everything on the Jews...
(Niall) And don't say "that leader should be done away with", or "deserves what's coming", or...
(L) All right. If there's anything we haven't asked that we should have asked...
A: Already answered. Goodbye.
END OF SESSION
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Q: (L) Well, I guess we ought to get ourselves wound up here and get started and put that puppy dog down. Okay. Today is Saturday the 27th of September 2025. Usual suspects present. [Review of those present] So I guess we...
A: Jakillia here from transmission point Cassiopaea. Greetings to all.
Q: (L) Do you have anything particular to tell us before we get started with questions?
A: Make it a point to keep a low profile from here on. Things are about to get stranger than you can imagine.
Q: (L) Does that mean on social media?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So, a low profile about... Do we have to stop talking about Israel? Should we?
A: It would be best.
Q: (L) Should we delete our social media accounts which are full of our rants about Israel?
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) Delete our accounts or just the posts?
A: Posts if possible.
Q: (Joe) So the more inflammatory, accusatory, pointed posts referring to specifically Israel and Jewish deep-stater type things?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) But other things we can talk about?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, does that mean that other people are going to have to do it too? I mean like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens?
A: Let them handle it. They are better protected. In your case, knowledge protects.
Q: (Joe) Is our forum okay for posting whatever we want?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Just not public.
(Scottie) What about SOTT? That's loaded with...
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) SOTT is okay.
(Joe) So it's individual...
(L) ...Individuals that can be targeted. Well, before we get onto these other questions, I know everybody's dying for this $64,000 question to be asked, but I had a couple of questions on my mind this afternoon that I wanted to ask and if I don't ask them now I won't get to. I was thinking about people who are involved in a close way with say, organic portals - I mean as a spouse or a close friend or a child or whatever. And what I was wondering is when a person, a souled person dies and they were married to an OP, can they look down on the Earth and their former partners or whatever and tell that they are OPs? I mean do they look any different or seem any different?
A: Yes to both.
Q: (L) Well, if they look different, what does that mean?
A: There is a genetic imprint and a "spirit" glow of life force, but not the soul identifier that makes everyone unique if they are souled.
Q: (L) Well, do pets have identifiers like soul identifiers of humans, or do they just have the genetic thing and the life force?
A: Many pets and other non-human creatures have soul imprints.
Q: (L) But not all.
A: No
Q: (L) And it would probably be a very tedious task to go through and ask about all the different ones that do or do not, right?
A: Yes
Q: (L) And we don't want to spend that time on that.
A: No
Q: (L) When a person has passed over and they possibly are still hanging around, like for example their residence or their former family or whatever, and you have the idea that they can come and be in your kitchen, say, while you're cooking or sitting at the table or having dinner or whatever, or when you're walking around your yard. I mean, you read all the time about people doing different things and they feel the presence of their deceased loved one. So my question is do they - y'all are just waiting for this, aren't you? Do they hang around if you're in bed and doing things with your husband or wife? I mean, are they spying on you? [laughter]
A: Yes. But not exactly as you think. Though there [are] troubled souls with sex or other bodily addictions that are magnetized by such activities.
Q: (L) So if you're, say, drinking or doing drugs or having sex or any kind of... I suppose somebody could be addicted to running and if you're running, they hang around you. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So it is basically...
(Andromeda) You're never alone.
(L) You're never alone. And it's a jungle out there.
A: Yes
Q: (L) All right then. So...
(Joe) The things you think about, Laura...
(L) Well, things pass through my head!
(Andromeda) That's unsettling.
(Joe) That'd be one of those other curious people hanging around and making you curious.
(L) So it's a curious soul hanging around, making me curious.
(Joe) Exactly, yeah. [laughter]
(L) Everyone wants to know if Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk?
A: No
Q: (L) There we're done. [laughter]
(Joe) Goodnight!
(Andromeda) The rest is up to you.
(Joe) Was Charlie Kirk shot by someone in the position that they said Tyler Robinson was in?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Did something explode in close proximity to him?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Was it something in his wireless mic?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Was it placed there by his security?
A: The rifle sound was produced by a rifle that was connected to a remote firing system linked to the same controller that was used to set off the explosive that killed Charlie. This was meant to provide a distraction for agents to remove incriminating evidence from the area around Charlie.
Q: (Joe) So instead of somebody firing a shot to make it sound like it came from Robinson, it was an automatic like...
(L) Well, somebody could have been holding it...
(Joe) Somebody could have been holding it, but it could have been an automated rifle set up in a window or something...
(Andromeda) Just to make the sound...
(Joe) ...to fire shot in the air. It was connected with the same control mechanism that detonated the thing in his mic. So the shot and the explosion in this thing happened simultaneously, which obviously isn't hard to do, right?
(Andromeda) Right.
(Joe) And they said that it was meant to provide a distraction for agents to remove incriminating evidence from the area around Charlie. I don't really get that, but...
(Niall) That means some of the guys who responded to the table were suspect, were part of it as people suspect, but not in the way that they...
(Joe) So this device that was used, it didn't create any visible damage to his chest area. You thought that would've been...
(L) Well, we didn't see his chest.
(Joe) Well, but you would've thought that if it was some kind of explosive, it would very quickly cause bleeding on his shirt or whatever bleed through, right? But it was very quick.
(L) If it sent a projectile, let's see, it was on the right side and his left carotid artery. So if it was here and it sent something up explosively, it could have gone just, I mean, not very deep...
(Joe) The wound we saw on him in the video, was that an exit wound?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is this a more advanced version of what the Israelis did in Lebanon last year?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So was it effectively a bullet within the microphone case?
A: Not a "bullet" exactly.
Q: (Joe) Okay. Some kind of projectile.
Q: (L) A projectile?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And the people who made this, did they test it on someone beforehand?
A: Dummies.
Q: (Joe) And is this just this amorphous, transnational deep state type group? Is that who we are talking about that's behind this? Within the US working in Israel's interest and American deep state interest. Is that who is behind this?
A: More or less.
Q: (Joe) What was the name of the old guy?
(Niall) George Zinn.
(Joe) Was he a deliberate plant?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So he actually works for these people or is connected to them in some way?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And was Tyler Robinson actually in that area at the time on that day?
A: No
Q: (Joe) He wasn't even anywhere near?
A: No
Q: (Joe) So the guy on the roof was some agent?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Who looked a bit like Tyler Robinson or dressed to look like him?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And the automatic remote firing system for the rifle that fired the gunshot was in that general area where that kind of roof was, I suppose?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) But the guy on the roof didn't fire a shot?
A: No
Q: (L) But he probably was holding the gun.
A: Yes
Q: (Chu) Do we want to ask the main motive?
(Joe) Yeah. Are we correct in assuming that getting rid of Charlie Kirk wasn't the primary motive because of the way that it was done, that it could have been taken out any other more...?
A: Not primarily no.
Q: (L) Was the primary motivation the effect on the psyche of the American people or global people or whatever?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) One of the effects it seems - it's hard to know for sure, but by anecdotal reports - is that a lot of people have turned back to or rekindled their relationship with Christianity at the church. Was that an intended effect?
A: That is a 4D part.
Q: (L) So 4th density STS want people to get all religious and looshy?
A: Mostly. But be aware that there are also some people that turn to religion and do not become part of the feeding mechanism.
Q: (L) So they're just good Christians and doing the right thing. Because let's face it: Christianity and religions in many respects have a beneficial effect on society if it's done right, right?
A: Yes. But it is so seldom done right.
Q: (L) Okay. So those are a minority.
(Joe) In the last session they said... I think I asked if the program change that was planned to be the assassination of Trump that didn't happen, if they had another one planned, another program change plan? In the last session they said, "upcoming". Was the Charlie Kirk assassination that?
A: Yes
Q: (L) I forgot about that.
(Joe) And also in the last session they said that extra protection had been activated or something for people furthering knowledge. So are we to assume that Charlie Kirk wasn't among those furthering knowledge because he wasn't protected?
A: He might have done so much more and that is part of the motivation for selecting him as a target.
Q: (L) So, well, I guess you know what they just told us a while ago that knowledge protects and they were giving us information that could be protective, and Charlie didn't have that kind of view of the world yet. He was only just really starting, I think, to wake up to what was really going on. I mean, he was a really beautiful, beautiful young man and he was sincere and he was honest and he was principled, which came out from his refusal to be bought out and told what to say and who to have on his show and so forth. And that in and of itself, I think, couldn't be tolerated by those forces. So...
(Joe) For example, Benjamin Netanyahu, was he aware of the plot to kill Charlie?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) He's read in on these things. And people's instinct was to call him up for it.
(Joe) Yeah, but is there a positive element to this in the sense that a lot of people are becoming more curious?
A: Ultimately, yes indeed!!
Q: (Niall) They've said in the past that a Batman movie that was released in 2012-ish, which had references to the Sandy Hook shooting in the movie, even though it came out beforehand, was an instance of the Cosmic Mind sending many clues ahead of time. With the Charlie Kirk shooting, there's a 1998 Hollywood movie called Snake Eyes that has loads of similarities with the Kirk assassination. Was this another instance of that?
A: Yes there are many such instances.
Q: (Joe) Is Erica Kirk legitimate?
A: A bit shady. Notice her current behavior.
Q: (Joe) Right, but she wasn't part of that or aware of the plot to kill Charlie?
A: No
Q: (L) I mean, are all of y'all kind of keeping an eye on Twitter where they show her repeatedly in different situations? I mean, not just the rally after the death of Charlie, but taking over the whole TPUSA and... I mean, if you're not aware of it, the question is not for you, but my question to all of you is: Can any of you imagine yourself in her situation acting as she is acting? I mean, really try to put yourself in her shoes. Anybody? I guess not. So, I couldn't imagine it.
(Andromeda) No, not at all.
(L) I mean, she's got two little babies and...
(Andromeda) And she's already up puttin' on a show.
(Chu) It goes against her whole spiel about being a quiet wife and all that.
(Joe) Is Kash Patel aware of the truth about Charlie's assassination?
A: Kash is not in the loop.
Q: (Niall) This is what you said earlier.
(L) Did you say that?
(Niall) He said something like that several days ago. He was joking that, oh, here's Kash finding out what the FBI was told, but he's learning like the rest of us what the FBI said.
(Joe) He's on camera going, "Sorry, I can't tell you any of that because they won't let me. They won't give me information." Aren't you the director? "Yeah. I'm kind of new. There's people who've been here for a long time and they kind of run the show and I'm just a noob." [laughter]
(L) Yeah. He got in there and found out that just being the director was... if you don't have the other outside connections, you're never going to get inside. I am sure everybody has seen that happen in the corporate environment or any kind of job where somebody new comes along.
(Niall) Is the governor of Utah in the loop on this issue?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) I guess that's why they did it in that state.
(Niall) It's like Stepford Wives, that area, at least from what Candace is finding. The whole place is like the Latterday Saints, it's the university, it's the CIA. It's this engineering company that everyone either works for or knows someone who works for.
(Joe) It's an old boys club.
(Andromeda) Creepy.
(Joe) So the device that was the manipulated mic on Charlie's shirt, it contained a small amount of explosives like C4?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And that was made in such a way that it wouldn't do much damage to the front of his chest when it exploded?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) And it was placed on him by a member of his security detail.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So TPUSA was infiltrated by this group?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Well, that's understandable because it was made by them.
(L) Why did the shirt billow out in the back?
A: The explosion created a limited shock wave that was shaped and contained by the t-shirt itself allowing the shock to travel around his shoulders and torso.
Q: (Joe) You're talking about a very small amount of explosive.
(L) Yeah but C4 is really powerful.
(Joe) But at that close proximity, it doesn't take a lot of it to...
(L) No.
(Joe) And you don't need a lot of force or speed to get it from here to the other side of your head.
(L) Yeah, the thing... I mean, his chest was flatter, obviously. I mean, it's hard for me to do it on my own chest. I got bazooms and stuff, but if you have something in it there, oh, wait a minute, it's on the right side.
(Niall) Now, they say that was an exit wound so it went through his neck.
(Andromeda) Yeah, that's probably why it ballooned up like that in that frame.
(Niall) That may be why he had an apparent decorticate thing where the neck was severed. People assume by a bullet. It may actually have cut his neck.
(Andromeda) Right.
(L) Well, are we done with it?
(Niall) One last thing, how do I say this? In the immediate aftermath, at least among the portion of population that is interested in these things, there was a very pronounced popular blink that Israel has something to do with it. The Israeli government kind of accidentally, it seems, fueled that by having Netanyahu himself post about it frequently, and then issue TWO denials.
A: The guilty flee when none pursue.
Q: (Joe) I was thinking of writing that in response to Netanyahu. I think I did, but I thought, well, people ARE pursuing it.
(L) Yeah, but he kind of brought it on himself.
(Joe) He protested a bit too much. But it was in response to a lot of people immediately saying, "Israel did it!"
(L) All right.
(Chu) Somebody on the chat is asking if Trump knows what happened?
A: No. Trump is also not in the loop.
Q: (Chu) Arwenn mentioned the drones. Did you want to ask something about it?
(Joe) Oh yeah, were there drones?
(L) Oh wait, wait a minute. But what happened to our picture? [Our video was turned off for some reason - reactivated!]
(Joe) Were there any drones similar to the drone allegedly over Butler?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And given that there was no patsy there, what was the purpose of those drones?
A: Observation. How do you know there was no "patsy"?
Q: (Joe) Because they said that Tyler Robinson wasn't there.
(Chu) Yeah, but he's still a patsy.
(Joe) Well, it was based on the idea that at Butler, Crooks was there, and they said it was kind of like mind control waves or something. I'm assuming that...
(L) Yeah, but that makes him a patsy.
(Joe) Huh? That makes him a patsy at Butler. But they said that Tyler Robinson wasn't actually on scene. So I was asking what...
(L) You were asking about Butler.
(Joe) No.
(L) You were asking about Butler.
(Joe) Okay. No, I wasn't asking about Butler. I was saying similar to Butler. Were there drones at the...
(L) You were asking if there were drones at Butler.
(Niall) No, no, that's what he meant.
(L) Okay. You asked me if drones were here like they were at Butler and so it's "Yes", right?
(Joe) This is, yes, they said observation, but they asked how do you know? And they followed up. But...
(L) But then you said something about there was no patsy at Butler.
(Joe) No.
(Andromeda) He was saying in THIS instance, why was there a drone if there was no patsy to activate because in Butler, the drone was there to activate the patsy. So he was saying in this case, if there wasn't a patsy physically present, why was there a necessity for the drone?
(L) Well, I heard different, and that's what the C's heard.
(Joe) Okay. Well, they said it was for observation, but maybe they're saying something different... Was there a patsy at Charlie Kirk's assassination?
(Chu) Well, indirectly it is.
(L) They created him.
(Joe) He wasn't on the scene, but whatever. Carry on.
(Andromeda) He was at the Dairy Queen.
(Joe) Exactly.
(L) Was he supposed to be on the scene?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Did he just not go for some reason?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) So they had to rush a substitute in?
A: Something like that. There were also a lot more videos than "they" would like. It is all getting very messy in the public mind and "something must be done."
Q: (L) "Something must be done" doesn't sound good...
(Gaby) They're gonna kill him.
(L) I mean, it is not like the JFK assassination.
(Andromeda) No.
(L) I mean it is, but it isn't because I mean, then people were so naive and innocent. They believed everything, but they've used the same playbook so many times now and then things have come out and...
(Joe) Well, on that point, what percentage of the population in America suspect that the official story about Charlie Kirk's assassination is not the truth?
A: Over 70 percent.
Q: (Niall) You see, you've gotta have more faith in your fellow man! For the working classes. [laughter] This guy's always like, man, only 10% even think about these things.
(Gaby) It's the same number that Grok gave... on your Substack when you were talking about the control system.
(Joe) It doesn't mean they're going to do anything about it.
(Niall) No, I know, but it doesn't mean that the thought has crossed the mind and that thought has mass weight.
(L) There's so many people that know that everything is all screwed up, but they won't say or do anything about it because they're just not in a position to. They have too much to lose. Only when they get to the point that they no longer have anything to lose, and that may come, that time may come.
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) But what I was getting at earlier with Netanyahu, and he's obviously unaware. Do they have any understanding that they're creating the mass resistance?
A: No. Wishful thinking is their Achilles heel.
Q: (L) Remember what Lobaczewski said? He said that the pathocrats always think that they can force people by hook or crook or by newer and better methods of control to submit to their wishes and to force them to believe what they're being gaslighted to believe. But it never works. They always try it and they always think it's going to work and it never works. And so it has been throughout history.
(Joe) Although certainly there must be some pressure that they really are feeling, or those people who support Israel or run the Israeli agenda. Surely they're feeling a little bit of pressure, like the walk out at the UN and stuff, that they figure they can handle a lot, do you think?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They think they can, and that's why I guess we need to be aware that something's going to happen. "Something must be done."
(Joe) Exactly. That's what I mean. Yeah. That is a reaction to them feeling that they need... that their backs are against the wall in a certain sense.
(L) Right. And when their backs get against the wall, things get ugly.
(Niall) They just forced Trump to let them... I'll be careful with "them" -he happens to be a big Jewish billionaire- to let them buy TikTok so, like that. That's one big platform, but then it is so narrow. It's wishful thinking because they think, "Hmm, let's just buy TikTok and we'll fix it. We'll fix it outwardly, make it go away."
(Joe) Is there a plan to do something about this, the awareness that a lot people are having about the Charlie Kirk assassination, that the official story wasn't true? Is their plan to do something to distract from that? Because it's still kind of ongoing...
A: Yes.
Q: (Andromeda) It's pretty fresh.
(Joe) Like blowing up the Middle East, maybe?
A: Or worse.
Q: (Niall) Russia... These drones...
(Joe) War in Russia? Worse than blowing up the Middle East...
(L) All right. Have we done it to death now? No pun intended! Anybody got anything else?
(Chu) Don't even try to read the chat, unless you want to ask the question.
(L) Any good questions that came up there if we go from the top? Geez, you guys must not be paying attention if you're doing all that writing.
(Chu) "Was there an entry wound?" Yeah, there would have been.
(L) All right, so forget it. So first questions:
(Laurs) Was the death in January 2025 of Prof. Dr. Francis A. Boyle, a healthy US law professor who suddenly died under undisclosed circumstances just 3 weeks after testifying as an expert witness in the potential landmark “Covid-19" lawsuit pending before the District Court in The Netherlands, due to natural causes?
A: No.
Q: (Laurs) If not, how was he killed?
A: Close contact induced aneurysm.
Q: (Niall) Which is an example of what they can do if they want to.
(L) And if they want you to die privately.
(Niall) Yeah, quietly.
(Joe) That's the problem with going with Occam's razor, that the simplest explanation of these things is always the most likely. That doesn't take into consideration what's simple for these people to do. Do you know what I mean?
(L) I think the Israelis just got carried away with the success of their pagers, and they just thought, "Wow, wasn't that fun?!"
(Andromeda) Look, they gave a gold pager to Trump and they were so proud of it!
(L) And that was just before Charlie Kirk was killed, right?
(Niall) No, the pagers was last year, but the day before, they had attempted to take out the Hamas leadership in Qatar, which was a new thing, because they had never bombed a US ally before.
(Joe) They're getting very flagrant. But yeah, Charlie Kirk being assassinated that way... it just has Israeli pagers written all over.
(Andromeda) Totally.
(L) Okay. Follow up:
(Laurs) If he was indeed killed, were the usual alphabet agencies involved?
A: Yes.
Q: (Laurs) Was the court case in Holland in any way significant to the decision to kill him?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. The background, all of that will be in the transcript.
Background: (Laurs) For over 2 years now, a court case is pending before the District Court in The Netherlands which has the potential of a global landmark challenge against global health policies, in particular around the mRNA Covid-19 shot. Defendants include people like Bill Gates, Albert Bourla and Klaus Schwab, high profile Dutch politicians and the Dutch State.
Plaintiffs seek a Court verdict that the Covid-19 shot is a vaccine for the health of the population, or a bioweapon. One of the Plaintiffs' main strategies is to get the Court to hear and include the testimonies of six expert witnesses, including Catherine Austin-Fitts, Alexandra (Sasha) Latypova, and US Professor (of International Law) Dr. Francis Boyle.
Three weeks after confirming his participation as an expert witness, Francis Boyle, healthy and still teaching at age 74, suddenly died on January 30th 2025 under undisclosed circumstances, leading many to be highly suspicious of his death.
The eulogies mention that Francis A. Boyle was always in the right kind of trouble. He was a successful international and human rights lawyer and professor in Urbana. He spent his life pursuing the prosecution of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and acts of genocide. F.i., he was instrumental in drafting the US legislation that became the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, and he played a significant role in the plight of the Palestinians against Israel. Boyle started the divestment/disinvestment campaign against Israel in 2000, and joined with Palestinian civil society in the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) campaign in 2005. Israel sees the BDS campaign as an existential threat to the Jewish state.
(Gaby) Seismic tomography reveals 2 giant “blobs” in the lowermost mantle, one beneath Africa and one beneath the Pacific. They sprawl across 30% of the core-mantle boundary area, with spatial scales on the order of 1000s (km) in width, and up to 1000 km above it. These blobs exhibit lower than average seismic wave speeds, thus they are named "Large low-velocity provinces (LLVPs)”. What is their origin?
A: Internal heating.
Q: (Gaby) What role are they playing, if any, in current Earth changes?
A: Heating up, destabilization, opening up for the reception of cosmic waves.
Background info: (Gaby) https://www.researchgate.net/public...locity_provinces_and_ultra_low_velocity_zones
“LLVPs may represent buried relics of Theia mantle material (TMM) that was preserved in proto-Earth's mantle after the Moon-forming giant impact” Moon-forming impactor as a source of Earth’s basal mantle anomalies - Nature
“The high temperature of the LLVPs, and their positioning in the deep mantle on each side of the planet, means that they affect how heat is extracted from the Earth's core. This impacts convection in the outer core – a process that drives the magnetic field and protects us at the surface from harmful cosmic rays. If the African and Pacific LLVP are different, heat may no longer be extracted symmetrically, which could lead to magnetic field instability.”
Studying the evolutionary history of large low velocity provinces in the deep mantle
Q: (Gaby) TES (The Ethical Skeptic) has a hypothesis based on these blobs and posits that Earth's core and mantle dynamics drive periodic rotational instabilities, leading to true polar wander events.
[Background info: Exothermic Core-Mantle Decoupling - Dzhanibekov Oscillation (ECDO) Theory]
A: Partly involved, yes.
Q: (Gaby) He claims that a weakening of the core mantle magnetic coupling causes heat from the Earth's core into the mantle, excluding these blobs. This makes the rest of the mantle denser than the blobs, contributing to:
- Loss of current influence in the position of our geographic North Pole
- Increase in sea surface temperature and in the Earth's axis of rotation
- Shift in the planet's rotation around its maximum axis (the denser mantle)
- Increasing the chances of a True Polar Wander event with an axis of gyroscopic moment based upon the African blob.
A: Very close!
Q: (Gaby) A steady ocean pattern in the Gulf of Panama has failed for the first time in 40 years. Historically, sea surface temperatures drop between January and April, only that they didn't in 2025. What was the main factor involved in this anomaly?
Background info:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2512056122
It is thought to be related with a reduction in Panama wind-jet frequency, duration and strength, possibly related to the Intertropical Convergence Zone.
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(L) That is, the non dropping of the temperature. It didn't drop, it stayed hot.
(Andromeda) Right.
A: Look to the previously mentioned "blobs".
Q: (Gaby) Heating of the sea surface temperature. What is the nucleus size of 3I/ATLAS?
A: 8km
Q: (Gaby) Earth's 8th official quasi-moon...
(L) "Quasi-moon", I love that word, it's so quasi! [Laughter]
(Gaby) ...was discovered earlier this year, which is slightly smaller than the meteor that exploded over Chelyabinsk, Russia, in 2013. How long has it been in Earth's orbit?
A: Since 1996.
Q: (Gaby) Rupert Sheldrake explains, just as Pierre did in his book "Earth Changes", that the Earth is electrically charged in a negative direction in relation to the atmosphere. A tree is negatively charged, because it's connected to the soil through the sap growing up through the wood, which is electrically conductive, sticking up into the positive atmosphere. And so there's a big difference between the tree and the air around it, which means that the electric tips of the tree and of the branches and of the shoots attract positive ions and they affect the electric field all around them.
In 2012 we asked about a couple of 1500-years-old giant sequoias falling in California on September 2011 during a normal day. At that time comet Elenin was disintegrating after being hit by a coronal mass ejection in August 2011. We also mentioned Meager1's experience during a bizarre early snow storm that took place in New England on October 2011 and how so many trees fell. You said 'The two are related. The "opening up" of Earth has already exhibited a number of interesting repercussions...'
Pierre expanded on this “opening up” in his book “Earth Changes”, explaining how a grounding effect from Sol's companion results in a reduced atmospheric E-field and surface-core E-field.
Is this why we have lost so many trees in our garden in recent years?

A: Yes, and so have many others.
Q: (L) So a lot of people have lost trees because of these changes in the atmosphere.
(Niall) Well, the core/atmosphere relationship.
(Gaby) When we asked in August 2022 why was the rotation speed of the Earth recently increased by almost 1.6 milliseconds and you responded 'Grounding of the current!', could this mean that the Earth is now more spherical or less "wide" at the equator?
(L) Is that how that would work? When it goes faster, it would tighten up, or...
(Gaby) It's the angular momentum, because the mass is closer to the center of gravity.
(L) [to Ark] Is that true, honey ?
(Ark) I don't know.
(L) mkrnhr, do you know?
(mkrnhr) In theory, only if we discard the electric effects. So if it's rotating faster, more oblate. But it doesn't work for the Sun, for example.
(L) Okay. Anyway, the question is again, does this mean that the Earth is now more spherical or less wide at the equator?
A: Not sufficient increase for that to happen.
Q: (Mari) There is a lot of sightings of metallic looking spheres flying around the area of Buga in Colombia...
(L) Are these the same kind of spheres that are flying around airports?
(Joe) No, not necessarily. One of them was found, and the question is about the...
(L) Yeah, I know there's a picture.
[See picture below]
(Joe) And it was found. So the main thing is...
(L) But this is basically localized to Buga, Colombia?
(Gaby) Yeah.
(L) Nowhere else is it reported? Does anybody here know of any place else? No?
(Joe) Not one that landed, and they found it.
(L) Okay.
(Mari) Is the sphere that was found the same type as the one seen flying around?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then it has some unusual properties. So what is the cause of these unusual properties?
Background: (Mari) Apparently, one crashed, and was retrieved and examined, and the sphere does not show "welds or joints", weight about 4.5 pounds and was cold to the touch when found, had etched into it a series of ancient-looking symbols, and its internal structure is composed of high-density elements (as per Dr. Jose Luis Velazquez, a radiologist that examined the sphere).
Steven Greer reports that the resin in the Buga Sphere is about 12,560 years old according to The University of Georgia - Center for Applied Isotope Studies
https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Astounding-report-on-Buga-Sphere.html
Research presumably done in this sphere:
-When placed on a precision scale, its apparent mass fluctuated dramatically — from 8.1 kilograms to a featherlight 1.5 kilograms — without external influence.
-In a vacuum chamber, the sphere levitated without visible thrust
- The sphere emitting a low-frequency pulse, synchronized with environmental vibrations
-An independent physicist published a paper arguing for a new physics model where the sphere employs negative mass principles.
https://medium.com/@naudealmir/the-...nges-our-understanding-of-physics-6f6f875a5c1
A: Bi-density object.
Q: (Joe) What is its purpose?
A: Monitoring.
Q: (Joe) It's a probe.
(Niall) There's markings on it.
(Harrison) Yeah. I wanted to ask about the markings, because when you look at a closeup of the markings, it's really clear that they're imprecise and it looks like they were carved in by a human hand. They don't look like a perfect crop circle or something like that. So I just wanted to ask what the significance of that is. Does that mean that those markings were added on by someone else, or it was just sloppily made?
A: Fading in and out gives a false impression.
Q: (Joe) So, transiting densities messes up the writing.
(L) It must be so!
(Joe) It was supposedly dated by carbon dating.
(L) Yeah. "Steven Greer reports that the resin in the Buga sphere is about 12,560 years old, according to the University of Georgia - Center for Applied Isotope studies."
A: No.
Q: (L) So that's wrong?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) And is that a function of it being bi-density, that you mess up the carbon dating?
A: Yes.
Q:(Niall) AND, Greer still has a 100% record of being wrong! [Laughter]
(L) Yeah!
(Niall) He's consistent, I give him that!
(L) What was the source of the drones over Copenhagen Airport last week?
(Joe) And can I add that today they were over Danish military basis, supposedly, as well?
(L)I heard there were also some over French...
(Joe) Possibly over a few other countries, France, Germany...
(Niall) But let's keep it separate. Because I suspect that's the ongoing "Russian drones" being tacked into it.
(L) But what about the drones that were in New Jersey?
(Chu) We asked about those already.
(Niall) Well, this is the thing, we think they're similar, but...
(Joe) No, hang on. So a few days ago, they shut down Copenhagen Airport because there was a drone or a few drones seen over it. And then today, so a few days later, similar drones, maybe not similar, but drones (lights in the sky) reported over military bases in Denmark, and possibly over France, or Germany...
(Chu) And definitely Oslo, Norway.
(Joe) Right, Norway, maybe... whatever, a few places. Just vague reports really. The main one was Denmark...
(Niall) Which was filmed.
(Joe) Yeah, lights in the sky, similar to New Jersey. But they've said consistently that there's no evidence that they're Russian. So...
(L) They've said that consistently...
(Joe) Yes, the Danish government has said that they have no evidence that this has anything to do with Russia. So the question is, what were those drones? Are they similar to what happened over New Jersey? Is there another flap?
(L) What happened in New Jersey?
(Joe) The drones in New Jersey last year, remember?
(L) Yeah, but I don't remember what that was.
(Joe) That was allegedly 37% alien drones, and 67% human drones flown up to muddy the water. And it was designed to just spook the population, and maybe be a preparatory step to some eventual "savior space brothers" coming to...
(L) All right. So we've got more drones. Are these similar in origin to the New Jersey drones?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Is it a kind of false flag to try and implicate Russia? Is it something along those lines?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So they're going to go there, eventually.
(Joe) And the Danish government was smart enough to go, "Hang on a minute, there's no evidence that this is the Russians." The Danes at least are not taking the bait.
(Chu) Yeah, but they're still saying, "We need to work with Ukraine, and..."
(Joe) But at least they're not saying, they're not jumping in with the... because there has been a concerted effort in the past while to try and implicate Russia, with Poland, Romania... anyway.
(L) Right. They've got all kinds of stuff going on.
(Niall) In the European media, they're telling Euro-Normies that Russia is basically in the process of invading Europe.
(L) And that's so ridiculous!
(Joe) Well, they can say that, but it's ridiculous. Yeah.
(Niall) The Danish government could say that, but the Danish media will just go with the flow. The insinuation of Russia is attached to all of these.
A: Again, for safety, keep a low profile on social media. Things are getting a little bit shaky.
Q: (L) So we can let other people do those things because they're in a better protected position.
(Joe) So don't talk about drones either.
(Niall) I think they mean don't be so pro-Russia because they're about to actually try and frame them for an atrocity, maybe?
(Joe) Should we not be so pro-Russian on social media? Is that another recommendation?
A: Carefully as she goes!
Q: (L) All right. Anybody got any last questions?
(Niall) What is the current death toll-ish in Gaza since Israel began bombing in 2023?
A: Nearly a million.
Q: (Andromeda) A lot more than what they're saying...
(Joe&Niall) Half its population.
(Chu) Luis is asking, what about the SOTT radio shows? We give names there. We have names there, on YouTube.
(Joe) There aren't many people who watch those.
(L) Yeah, I think they said that SOTT and the forum are basically okay. We can say what we want because...
(Joe) Yeah, but he's talking about YouTube, the shows on YouTube.
(Chu) And the fact that their names are there.
(L) Yeah, but once again...
(Joe) We can talk about stuff, but be careful on those shows. Because that's social media. YouTube is social media.
(L) Okay. Anything else?
(Joe) Just don't be outrageous. Don't blame everything on the Jews...
(Niall) And don't say "that leader should be done away with", or "deserves what's coming", or...
(L) All right. If there's anything we haven't asked that we should have asked...
A: Already answered. Goodbye.
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