Session 28 October 1994

Laura

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October 28, 1994

Frank, Laura, V_____

Q: (L) Hello.

A: Hello.

Q: (L) Is someone with us?

A: As always.

Q: (L) Can we have your name please?

A: Gursaea.

Q: (L) Are you a discarnate human?

A: No.

Q: (L) What are you?

A: Cassiopaean.

Q: (L) There were two little boys stolen from their mother in South Carolina, we would like to know if we can obtain any information regarding this matter?

A: House in Union South Carolina in closet.

Q: (L) Can you give us any details about the house and how it could be found?

A: On street with lots of other houses white clapboard.

Q: (L) Any other details? Name of street?

A: Oak in name.

Q: (L) How close is this to where their parents are?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Where is the vehicle?

A: In woods West.

Q: (L) Are the little boys alright?

A: Will be found soon for comparison to ultimate results.

Q: (L) Why am I having these current headaches?

A: Changes DNA

Q: (L) A____ suggested an ozone generator to enhance the contact. Is this a good idea?

A: He means well. Have him supply it.

Q: (L) Is it alright for me to send the edited version of our transcripts to A__ B__?

A: B__ may share with questionable individuals.

Q: (L) Will that be detrimental to us?

A: What do you think?

Q: What was B__'s purpose in calling me today?

A: Curiosity generated by UFO grapevine gossip.

Q: (L) What was the gossip?

A: W__ and F__ inspired intrigue.

Q: (L) Do these two have more contact than we would think?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) W__ and F__?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) W__ hates F__, isn't that correct?

A: Variable.

Q: (L) Should I not share information with J__?

A: All is learning process.

Q: (L) Are they all in a tizzy about what we are doing here?

A: Generally yes. T__ and J__ are OK.

Q: (L) So T__ and J__ are not saying anything to W__ or F__ about this?

A: Yes. But that's not the point.

Q: (L) What is the point?

A: Motives are good omnipresently.

Q: (L) What do you mean by that? Are we talking just about J__ and T___?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are B__'s motives good?

A: Variable.

Q: (L) Are J__'s motives good?

A: Same.

Q: (L) Would J__ ever do anything that would damage me or this work?

A: Search within self for answer.

Q: (L) Why should we take the Melatonin?

A: Is mild hallucinogen.

Q: (L) Why do we need this?

A: Keeps exercising psychic abilities and opens paths. Don't be alarmed by vividly erotic dreams.

Q: (L) Should we expect to have vividly erotic dreams?

A: Possible as psyche passes through levels on ascension.

Q: (L) Is there a problem with the energy level tonight?

A: With board.

Q: (L) What is wrong with board.

A: Getting crumpled.

Q: (L) We need to get a new board?

A: Good idea.

Q: (L) If I get a piece of glass to put on the board and felt for the planchette will that do it?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Better to get a new board?

A: Open.

Q: (L) I wonder if there is a chance of getting the old Lizzies involved if we are not careful about who we tell?

A: Always chance of that.

Q: (L) We would like to have a rundown of certain UFO related individuals:

Q: (L) William Cooper?

A: Independent; good intentions; slightly overactive imagination; a little misled.

Q: (L) Bob Lazar supposedly worked on alien craft retro-engineering?

A: Did but sinister. Involved with questionable types.

Q: (L) His video about working at area 51 and descriptions of propulsion systems and alien craft was or was not truth?

A: Close to the truth. Craft tech: minor points were off.

Q: (L) What about Stanton Freidman?

A: Pure, good man.

Q: (L) William Moore who co-wrote the Roswell incident with Charles Berlitz?

A: Same as Friedman.

Q: (L) What about the incident where he admitted to disinformation?

A: Was coerced to say that by complex sources. That situation is very complex.

Q: (L) What about Jaime Shandera?

A: Misled by same as Moore. Has mixed intentions.

Q: (L) What about Don Ware?

A: Disinformation artist.

Q: (L) What about John Lear?

A: Good but overcareful.

Q: (L) What about Dr. Richard Boylan whose book I just read? This guy says he had an experience where he was abducted and overnight his attitude about aliens changed. Who was responsible for that abduction that changed his attitude?

A: The Grays changed Boylan's attitude.

Q: (L) What was the motivation in doing so?

A: Get him to dispense selective info.

Q: (L) What is the intent of this selective information?

A: Confuse investigators.

Q: (L) Was his mind taken over when the Grays abducted him?

A: In a sense.

Q: (V) A Navy plane crashed on Tuesday, why did the plane crash?

A: Guidance system malfunction.

Q: (V) Why wasn't the pilot able to eject?

A: It was her time to go.

Q: (V) So none of this had anything to do with Aliens?

A: No.

Q: (V) I listened to a woman named Janet Dailey who says that women who have abortions have a higher incidence of breast cancer but that spontaneous abortion or miscarriage do not cause the same reaction, is this true?

A: Yes. But women who have their first pregnancy later in life also have higher instances of breast cancer and same for those who never get pregnant.

Q: (V) Does abortion create karma resulting in breast cancer?

A: Hormonal anomalies cause breast cancer. Karma is interconnected with physical experiences.

Q: (L) Are you saying that having an abortion can create Karma?

A: Of course.

Q: (V) Is this research funded by pro-life activists?

A: Some.

Q: (L) I think that V__ wants to ask if she has Karma in this regard?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) She has not worked it out?

A: No.

Q: (L) Bill Baldwin says abortions lead to serious spiritual attachment situations. Is this true?

A: Semi-accurate.

Q: (L) Is there some way to release this kind of karma for V__ or others who have it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could you tell us?

A: If we tell you, you won't learn.

Q: (L) Now, several people have told me that there is a small child who is with me constantly, who is she and why is she here?

A: Next in line.

Q: (L) Next in line for what?

A: Birth.

Q: (L) Am I going to have another child?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) How many are there in line?

A: One.

Q: (L) Male or female?

A: Female.

Q: (L) Is this to happen within the next year?

A: Open.

Q: (L) I am 42 years old. If I were to get pregnant would I be able to have a normal pregnancy and produce a healthy infant?

A: Yes. Your consciousness will soon give you spectacularly sharp, exact and correct information.

Q: (L) Will this be due to ingesting the Melatonin?

A: Partly.

Q: (L) Is soon within a month?

A: You will know.

Q: (L) I get the feeling that this has a lot to do with trusting my own intuition.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) I had a very serious physical attack yesterday. What was the nature of that attack?

A: Gallbladder.

Q: (L) What should I do about it?

A: See ultrasound specialist.

Q: (L) Will Reiki heal it?

A: Open.

Q: (L) When V__ had her hands on my heart area and they were visually vibrating. Is that a sign of transmission of a great deal of energy?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what part of the body was that energy going to?

A: Chest area.

Q: (L) V__'s hands are tingling right now. Is that Reiki energy happening right now?

A: Yes.

Q: (V) Is my Reiki energy going to Frank and Laura as we are doing this?

A: All ways. You have strong natural healing power.

Q: (V) So, it isn't necessarily the Reiki initiation?

A: No. A__ is misguided.

Q: (L) If V__ had the correct initiation would this power her up so that she could do near miracles?

A: Precisely.

Q: (V) Does E__ also have this ability?

A: Some ability.

Q: (L) This evening E__ was acting up, what was going on with him?

A: Hormonal upsurge.

Q: (V) Is this due to interacting with females?

A: Close.

Q: (V) Female energy?

A: More physical.

Q: (V) Are they having a good time?

A: Fluctuating.

Q: (V) Is L__ o.k.?

A: Yes.

Q: (V) How much longer do I have to deal with this Hormone thing with E__?

A: 6 years.

Q: (L) Is patience the key?

A: Yes.

Q: (V) Can Reiki clear marijuana residue from the lungs?

A: Partly but what if there are continuous infusions?

Q: (L) Is there ever a case when ingestion of pot or alcohol are beneficial in a spiritual way?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) V__ used pot within past two weeks, why?

A: Search within.

Q: (L) Was it an outside influence?

A: All uncomfortable events are influenced either directly or indirectly.

Q: (L) Was this the passing of her uncle?

A: Search within.

Q: (L) Many years ago I was with a friend and we pulled off the road to let me drive. We both walked around the car and got in and I believe we sat there for a very long time. Was that because of the potency of what she had smoked or what?

A: You were abducted due to the open state produced by the drug.

Q: (L) What was in that stuff?

A: Strychnine.

Q: (L) Have I done great physical damage to my body through drugs?

A: Some.

Q: (L) Is it irreversible?

A: Not likely.

Q: (L) If I went on a fast would I be able to reverse the damage to my body?

A: Good chance.

Q: (L) Is that the same for Frank and V__?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it advisable to take colonics with the fasting?

A: Good idea.

Q: (L) Also to take vitamin supplements?

A: No.

Q: (V) Is the Godspark the portion of the Creator that lives within us, the soul, so to speak?

A: Sounds good.

Q: (L) If the godspark is the soul within us, does anybody have godsparks times 2 or 3 or so on? That is more than others?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What type of person would have more Godspark than anybody else?

A: Jesus has Godsparks ad infinitum.

Q: (L) How does Jesus have Godsparks ad infinitum?

A: Soul replication for communication purposes.

Q: (L) So, every time we call upon Jesus, we are replenishing our Godspark?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would you describe these soul replications as being more like a template or hologram?

A: Hologram.

Q: (L) And what is his connection to the Creator that enables him to do this soul replication?

A: Volunteered.

Q: (L) Rudolf Steiner called Chirst "The most sublime human principle ever to unfold on earth," is this an accurate statement?

A: One interpretation.

Q: (L) He also said: "The Christ, who in the course of this evolution lived 3 years in the body of Jesus of Nazareth..." Is this a correct statement? Did the Christ statement enter Jesus at age 30?

A: Formed then.

Q: (L) How did this sublime being, the Christ, dwell in a human body?

A: Natural process caused by supremely pure faith and thought.

Q: (L) Yet previously you said that Jesus had sexual relations with women after he was Christed, is that correct?

A: No. Before.

Q: (L) So, after he was Christed he had no sexual relations?

A: Correct.

Q: (L) Did the Christ spirit descend into the body of Jesus in his 30th year?

A: No.

Q: (L) What happened?

A: Formed within him. And it could do thusly in anyone who reaches such levels of service to others plus faith and supreme levels of pure thought.

Q: (L) What was the source of the belief that Christ descended into hell during the course of his so-called death?

A: Superstitions created hundreds of years after his work.

Q: (L) When is the credit/debit card system going to be put into effect?

A: 4 to 11 years.

Q: (L) According to shamanistic teachings, one can have animal spirits or guides. Is this correct?

A: Partly. You have them if you believe you have them.

Q: (L) If believing in them makes it so, is this belief beneficial?

A: All belief is beneficial at some level.

Q: (L) Did Jesus of Nazareth believe in animal spirits or totems?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is it just New Age revival of superstition?

A: Shamanism is subjective and limits. Lizard inspired.

Q: (L) This book that is being promoted, M.A.P., what is the inspiration behind that book?

A: Not good.

Q: (L) Just for fun, If I had an animal spirit what would it be?

A: Peacock.

Q: (L) Frank?

A: Deer.

Q: (L) V__?

A: Cat.

Q: (L) Do the Cassiopaens have pets?

A: Not exactly.

Q: (L) What do you guys do for fun?

A: All is fun when perceived correctly.

Q: (L) Should I hook up to the computer internet to use as a source to propagate channeled messages?

A: Yes. Go for it.

Q: (L) Does Frank need Caffeine as he takes it.

A: Up to him.

Q: (L) Is this beneficial to him?

A: Believe it or not, yes.

Q: (L) Is it good for V__?

A: Yes. Adjusts your thinking and vice versa.

Q: (L) Is smoking detrimental to any of our bodies?

A: Not if mild. Not if mind is in right mode.

Q: (L) Does smoking enhance psychic abilities?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it true that the government program to stamp out smoking is inspired by the Lizzies?

A: Yes because they know it may heighten psychic abilities.

Q: (L) What is causing the lung cancer they are attributing to smoking?

A: Mental conditioning and subliminal programming to expect it.

Q: (L) So, it only happens if you are convinced that it can and must happen?

A: Correct.

Q: (L) Is there any particular brand of cigarettes to smoke?

A: No.

Q: (L) Should I accept a job offer?

A: Will take you away from this work somewhat.

Q: (L) Would it be better if I turn it down?

A: Your inner self communicates this to you.

Q: (L) Is my idea to form a hypnosis association and teach and get clients thereby a good concept?

A: Up to you.

Q: (L) I get the idea sometimes that when you say "Up to You" that it may not be the best idea, is this correct?

A: Sometimes but not the only motivation.

Q: (L) V__ is jittery.

A: Mind control, V__. Try exercise.

Q: (L) Breathing or physical?

A: Physical.

Q: (L) "Bringers of the Dawn" advised spinning, is this advisable for all of us?

A: Major yes.

Q: (L) How many times a day?

A: 3

Q: (L) How many times?

A: 33

Q: (L) Is it ok to do it in the pool?

A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is the altar beneficial to have in one's house?

A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is that okay beneficial?

A: Be careful not to jump to conclusions.

Q: (L) What conclusions? That the altar is okay beneficial. Is it highly okay for us?

A: No.

Q: (L) Mediocre okay?

A: No. No. No.

Q: (L) What?

A: Laura has been hurt by jumping to Lizard inspired conclusions.

Q: (L) So the altar is useless?

A: No. Just be careful remember metaphysical church group.

Q: (L) Is it a matter of misguided alliances?

A: Has been frequent problem.

Q: (L) Should I dismantle the altar?

A: Altar is okay but other things are not okay like silly rituals.

Q: (L) Is V__'s altar okay?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, during the period of time I was getting the hassle from the metaphysical church group, my pool was green. Was this symbolic of the attack I was under?

A: Yes but you left yourself open by association and buying too many concepts without careful examination.

Q: (L) Do you mean that, if, at that time, I had refused to acknowledge that any harm could come to me, that that would have made it impossible for any harm?

A: Close. But investigate before buying and practicing in future okay?

Q: (L) Investigate what? Ideas?

A: Yes. And concepts and especially practices

Q: (L) The ideas of candle burning, salt, sage, shamanistic rituals and so forth? Is all this useless?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is sage not useful?

A: You are learning; remember when we say "good no ritual"?

Q: (L) In other words, your knowledge and your strength which comes from your knowledge and knowing is the point and the protection?

A: Precisely. This is extremely important.

Q: (L) Alexandra David Neel quoted a lama who said we must beware of the children of our own minds as well as the children of the minds of others, such as thought forms perhaps created by higher negative beings. If we do not acknowledge that such things exist, are we then subject to being devoured by them?

A: Ritual drains directly to Lizard beings.

Q: (L) Even our saying of the Lord's prayer?

A: It is okay to pray. Why do you think organized religion is obsessed with rituals?

Q: (L) Is the same thing true of shamanistic practices and so forth?

A: Exactly.

Q: (L) What occurred to make my pool clear up?

A: You restored your own energy.

Q: (L) And it had nothing to do with rituals?

A: Correct. In spite of rituals but you were lucky could have gone the other way.

Q: (L) What prevented this from happening?

A: Divine intervention. [energy surge]

Q: (L) Well, my life seems to have been full of incidents of Divine intervention. Is this true?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of this intervention?

A: To preserve and prepare you for work.

Q: (L) What is this work?

A: You are extremely valuable to all on your planet.

Q: (L) What particular value? Is this common to all people?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is this something meaningful? What is the mission?

A: Faith in your opening channel; you will learn as you go. We cannot tell you all at once.

Q: (L) Since the energy is high at this time, we would like to know if you have anything to give in the form of a teaching?

A: Not ready for that yet; establish clear channel and forum first; one step at a time.

Q: (L) What is the forum?

A: What do you think?

Q: (L) Do you mean that we need to bring more people into this work?

A: Close.

Q: (L) We need to create a forum.

A: Yes. A direction will open if you persevere.

Q: (L) So things will be brought to us and happen for us if we just persevere?

A: Soon expect big opportunity.

Q: (L) I assume that we are not to ask what it is, we are to have faith, is that correct?

A: Yes. Danger you may misinterpret opportunity.

Q: (L) Should we all three be able to realize in congruence whether the opportunity is good?

A: Varying degrees.

Q: (L) If there is a danger we may misinterpret the opportunity, could you give us a couple of clues so that when it occurs we won't miss it?

A: At least one of you will have instant recognition but others may not. Wait and see.

Q: (L) This misinterpretation, does this mean we can count on this misinterpretation?

A: Open.

Q: (L) Are we an experiment?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) How many others are receiving this level of information?

A: Less than 100 on entire planet. Less in this mode.

Q: (L) Are some of the others using other modes? What?

A: Many different ones.

Q: (L) Is channeling with three way energy as we are doing in a purer source of information than direct channeling through a single individual?

A: Equal.

Q: (L) Can any one of us do direct channelling?

A: All have equal potential.

Q: (L) Is A__ B__ attached in a major way?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is he going to order the Bill Baldwin book?

A: Yes.

End of Session
 

Miguel_Sanchez

The Living Force
Thanks for sharing this, Laura. Fascinating session. I find it interesting how you ended up connecting with people with such strong potentials, like V's Reiki.

I've often wondered how it must've felt or what you must've thought when they told you how important you were. Were you aware at the time how making someone feel special was a ploy often used to hook people? Did it make you suspicious. Alternatively, did you feel a certain amount of pressure?

The fasting comments were interesting too. I've thought about occasional fasting, whether it was beneficial and what the best approaches to it would be. Interesting that they said no to supplements, which I imagine might interfere with whatever mechanism fasting triggers.

Thanks again,
Gonzo
 

Laura

Administrator
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FOTCM Member
Gonzo said:
Thanks for sharing this, Laura. Fascinating session. I find it interesting how you ended up connecting with people with such strong potentials, like V's Reiki.
We also learned over time that some people with "strong Reiki" could be very iffy people!

Gonzo said:
I've often wondered how it must've felt or what you must've thought when they told you how important you were. Were you aware at the time how making someone feel special was a ploy often used to hook people? Did it make you suspicious. Alternatively, did you feel a certain amount of pressure?
Yes, it made me suspicious that there was some corruption. That's why I kept asking "trick questions". Problem is, when people just read the raw sessions without knowing what was going on in my head or why I was asking certain things (often as tests), they tend to take the Q&A at face value. Doing that is very, very wrong.

Gonzo said:
The fasting comments were interesting too. I've thought about occasional fasting, whether it was beneficial and what the best approaches to it would be. Interesting that they said no to supplements, which I imagine might interfere with whatever mechanism fasting triggers.

Thanks again,
Gonzo
As always, whatever is said in the sessions needs research and experiment (in some instances) and should never be taken at face value or as "truth." Indeed, we very, very often found that the clues were astonishingly accurate, but a good number of things were either un-testable or patently wrong.
 

RAJAWANG

Padawan Learner
Thank you for the post, Laura. Always new subject found for us. My particular interest: I have once wondered, if Jesus listens and make decisions on the prayers sent to him, on those that he grants, how is this to be done? My thought is that Jesus somehow alter the condition surrounding the prayer's life to enable it be granted. How can this be, without disrupting freewill? I can't find this anywhere in the forum. Thank you.
 

irjo

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Hi Rajawang I guess that he would act as the C's or a STO 6th density been does! not necessarily with a Ouija board but through the mind, subconscious or dreams informing and communicating somehow.
 

Miguel_Sanchez

The Living Force
Rajawang said:
Thank you for the post, Laura. Always new subject found for us. My particular interest: I have once wondered, if Jesus listens and make decisions on the prayers sent to him, on those that he grants, how is this to be done? My thought is that Jesus somehow alter the condition surrounding the prayer's life to enable it be granted. How can this be, without disrupting freewill? I can't find this anywhere in the forum. Thank you.
Not sure if I understand your question, but if you use the search function and limit the search to the session transcripts, you will come up with several interesting results that might help answer yur question.

For example, the September 1994 session (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25860.0.html) discusses how he left the Earth, how his soul divides/replicates to hear each prayer and how he considers each necessity against a person's individual soul development.

Gonzo
 

RAJAWANG

Padawan Learner
Thanks irjO. your reply directs me to a closer understanding how a prayer could be answered.
Gonzo: I've read that particular session at least 8 x, and still I post my question here. Do you know when your brain just rests, because the solution/answer is not 'grasp-able' by it, yet, at its present development? That's what I mostly do. I make a note, and when I reopen my book, I restudy and re-read all pertinent links and materials within the forum subjects, time permitting. Interesting that you point out that the Cs informed us that Jesus considers each necessity against a person's individual soul development. Because that's half of the answer to my question. Suppose Jesus decides that the person's prayer and her/his soul development are a 'match', and by 'granting' the prayer will enable her/him to develop further; how does Jesus 'grant' this particular prayer. I'm sure this is a very large probability, assuming millions of prayers go to him every day. I'm proposing that Jesus would somehow, without violating freewill, and without violating this dimension's known natural law, make the prayer answered. I don't know how to explain it in words. Anyhow, thanks guys :cool:
 

Miguel_Sanchez

The Living Force
There are several topics on this forum that seem beyond me and when I really try to put my mind to it, I get exhausted before I grasp the concepts. In some cases, I have temporarily given up trying, choosing instead to put my energy into other topics.

I'm still not 100% sure I understand your question, but I am glad I answered part of it. The remainder seems to relate to whether Jesus violates free will and what authority and the mechanism by which he answers prayers.

Well, the only way it would violate someone's free will would be if he answered when:
- the person did not ask
- the person did not understand the ramifications of their own request

Since we have to assume the person did indeed ask (otherwise how would Jesus have heard the prayer), then the latter is the only other way, which is precisely why Jesus considers a prayer against the issuer's lesson profile and particular need.

Consider this. Why did the Cassiopaeans answer Laura? They said they answered because she asked in the necessary way. She invested considerable time and effort and asked without commanding (which includes begging and pleading). The Cs undoubtedly, being at 6th density and being her in the future, certainly have access to everything they needed to know to decide if answering her was is her (and everyone else's) best interest.

There's a significant yet subtle difference between asking for something because one think it's best for them and Jesus answering in a way that is best for them. A person might think they need something, but be completely wrong due to limitations in self awareness and knowledge of the lessons they actually need to learn in this life. It would appear that Jesus is in a position to know our learning needs and therefore only grants prayers to those in true need and only does so in a manner that benefits them the most, OSIT.

It would also appear, based on what the Cs have indicated, that Jesus is an advanced spirit and is in a position to actually have the power to make certain things happen as he sees fit, using his advanced qualities and position in a higher density. It seems that he epitomizes STO qualities, especially when you consider his final act was to give himself up to a state of suspended consciousness and intercede on behalf of each and every person who calls upon him whenever appropriate and beneficial, so it wouldn't make sense that he would violate any universal laws, such as free will. Besides, I'm guessing that if he did, he probably wouldn't last long in such a position.

Regarding not grasping certain concepts, it might be helpful to break down your thinking into segments to find out where you run into obstacles in understanding. For example, you may discover that you have assumptions, sacred cows or beliefs that create interference, preventing you from getting past them to the next logical thought. At least, this is true for me when I am having difficulty understanding something (either that, or I'm just to tired). So, when considering this specific benevolent and powerful multi-Jesus concept, lay out whatever assumptions you might have in a sequence and see if there are any leaps of logic or obstacles you have placed in your way. I find it helpful to create "this, therefore that" statements, which helps me lay out all of my logic and identifies all of the places where I make assumptions or run into problems. Then, I can challenge myself by asking what evidence I have to believe something. Also, sometimes my mind doesn't like working on hypothetical problems that are based on things I consider intangible or unrealistic. For example, if I didn't believe Jesus even existed, I would have difficulty even considering the concepts discussed above. However, once I identify my disbelief as interfering with grasping the concept, I temporarily suspend my disbelief to finish the sequence of logic. This is certainly an area I have been working on for quite a while.

It's important to also realize that the brain is a muscle that requires disciplined training and varied exercises in order to grow in broad intellectual capacity. When you think about the heavy lifting that Laura has done, pretty much her entire life (she can certainly flex with the best of them) it's no wonder she can grasp so much and discuss such complex concepts.

Gonzo
 

FrankM4326754

Jedi Master
It's interesting to read that health illness in regards to smoking in a major way occurs because our thought process expects it to be as such. I go to the hookah bar often to smoke pure tobacco and I have never once had a thought of it having ill effects because of the thorough research that is out their supporting its benefits for mind, body, and spirit. The first time I went I felt incredibly relaxed and also dizzy. In fact I still get like that but at varying degrees and I find that I always want to partake in a stimulating conversation. I feel as if so many topics that come up in everyday life are of little to no importance and in a very real sense it could be because of the control system. Reality TV is more important to most people than world news, war, terror, real events that are playing out in our lives.

Thanks for sharing another amazing session with the C's. Cheers!
 

Atomas

Jedi
Q: (L) Is my idea to form a hypnosis association and teach and get clients thereby a good concept?

A: Up to you.
Hi Laura,
May I ask you whether your idea has been implemented since then? Also could you please tell me, what is the best place to start in order to understand hypnosis domain better?

Q: (L) Should I accept a job offer?

A: Will take you away from this work somewhat.
Yes indeed. There is not much time left for readings when one has to go to work. That's why leaving my job is in the nearest of my plans. I'd like to get more involved in the Group's work and esoteric field.

Thanks, Atomas
 

Gloria54

Padawan Learner
Gonzo said:
There are several topics on this forum that seem beyond me and when I really try to put my mind to it, I get exhausted before I grasp the concepts. In some cases, I have temporarily given up trying, choosing instead to put my energy into other topics.

I'm still not 100% sure I understand your question, but I am glad I answered part of it. The remainder seems to relate to whether Jesus violates free will and what authority and the mechanism by which he answers prayers.

Well, the only way it would violate someone's free will would be if he answered when:
- the person did not ask
- the person did not understand the ramifications of their own request

Since we have to assume the person did indeed ask (otherwise how would Jesus have heard the prayer), then the latter is the only other way, which is precisely why Jesus considers a prayer against the issuer's lesson profile and particular need.

Consider this. Why did the Cassiopaeans answer Laura? They said they answered because she asked in the necessary way. She invested considerable time and effort and asked without commanding (which includes begging and pleading). The Cs undoubtedly, being at 6th density and being her in the future, certainly have access to everything they needed to know to decide if answering her was is her (and everyone else's) best interest.

There's a significant yet subtle difference between asking for something because one think it's best for them and Jesus answering in a way that is best for them. A person might think they need something, but be completely wrong due to limitations in self awareness and knowledge of the lessons they actually need to learn in this life. It would appear that Jesus is in a position to know our learning needs and therefore only grants prayers to those in true need and only does so in a manner that benefits them the most, OSIT.

It would also appear, based on what the Cs have indicated, that Jesus is an advanced spirit and is in a position to actually have the power to make certain things happen as he sees fit, using his advanced qualities and position in a higher density. It seems that he epitomizes STO qualities, especially when you consider his final act was to give himself up to a state of suspended consciousness and intercede on behalf of each and every person who calls upon him whenever appropriate and beneficial, so it wouldn't make sense that he would violate any universal laws, such as free will. Besides, I'm guessing that if he did, he probably wouldn't last long in such a position.

Regarding not grasping certain concepts, it might be helpful to break down your thinking into segments to find out where you run into obstacles in understanding. For example, you may discover that you have assumptions, sacred cows or beliefs that create interference, preventing you from getting past them to the next logical thought. At least, this is true for me when I am having difficulty understanding something (either that, or I'm just to tired). So, when considering this specific benevolent and powerful multi-Jesus concept, lay out whatever assumptions you might have in a sequence and see if there are any leaps of logic or obstacles you have placed in your way. I find it helpful to create "this, therefore that" statements, which helps me lay out all of my logic and identifies all of the places where I make assumptions or run into problems. Then, I can challenge myself by asking what evidence I have to believe something. Also, sometimes my mind doesn't like working on hypothetical problems that are based on things I consider intangible or unrealistic. For example, if I didn't believe Jesus even existed, I would have difficulty even considering the concepts discussed above. However, once I identify my disbelief as interfering with grasping the concept, I temporarily suspend my disbelief to finish the sequence of logic. This is certainly an area I have been working on for quite a while.

It's important to also realize that the brain is a muscle that requires disciplined training and varied exercises in order to grow in broad intellectual capacity. When you think about the heavy lifting that Laura has done, pretty much her entire life (she can certainly flex with the best of them) it's no wonder she can grasp so much and discuss such complex concepts.

Gonzo
Not sure that I have formatted right here, but I am learning!
Thank you for this answer here...helped me..gave me an aha moment.
I came across this transcript when I searched "have the Cassiopeans ever been wrong" as per the newbie instructions to search the forum for answers.
The very first of the transcript astounded me because it was about a case that I was very familiar with, as it happened close to where I live. The two young boys being kidnapped. At the time I was going through a very rough period in my life. My dad was very sick and was in a hospital in California having undergone an experimental surgery for the treatment of COPD brought on by smoking(no less). So this session is very informative to me.
As a side note...I was home with my son who was twenty at the time, when the news broke about the two boys. My son and I looked at each other with our mouths hanging open and he said "mom! That is such b...s... I know that you would never have let anyone drive off with us..you would not have gotten out of the car!"
And I answered "you are right! Those boys are dead! They will find them in the nearest lake!"
A moment of awareness for both of us!
Anyway thank you and I am still combing through this material
 

SeekinTruth

Ambassador
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FOTCM Member
Just a note that you might want to have a look at the following threads, as there's no evidence that "Jesus of Nazareth" ever existed but lots of evidence that Caesar was "Jesus:"

Who was Jesus:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32216.0.html

Session 7 September 2013:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32366.0.html

Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31732.0.html
 

Vic

Jedi Council Member
I welcome this post of an earlier session with the Cs. It speaks to where I, like others recently arriving in the fold, are right now. Many of us are so busy studying to catch up and engage with 'veterans' on an equal footing so to speak - in terms of knowledge I mean, that sometimes I, at least, feel a little reluctant to post on knowledge revealed 'back then.' I know that's daft, but it happens.

As for the content of this extract itself - wow! I read this a few weeks ago and it struck me then - there is so much in there. One of the things that struck me, then and now, is the Jesus issue. I rejected christianity back in the mid-nineties after seeing through the whole 'god of wrath' nonsense, and the pentecostal brand trickery.

The main direction this thread has turned towards is Jesus. Talk of Jesus being a powerful force for prayer is an encouraging thing for many, of course, but SeekinTruth has just questioned his existence. It would be interesting to discover the truth on this. Even if Jesus of Nazareth was/is a myth based on Caesar, was there a being living in 3rd density that had a major influence and is now known as Jesus in a higher density?

Or was it Caesar himself that is now in that higher density, responding to human prayers. The Cs referred to him as Jesus. Why would they do that if it is Caesar. It wouldn't be like the Cs to humour us - oh, they think it's Jesus, let's not disappoint them - type of thing. From what I have gathered having read the whole Wave series up until midway through the 7th book, the Cs don't mess with facts.

A bit of clarity would be welcome if we have it. I bet we do - I just haven't got to it yet :)
 
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