Session 30 September 1994

[Jones]

Beige or tan beret in the military are usually worn by elite special operations personnel.

 

[Thassa]

Beige or tan beret in the military are usually worn by elite special operations personnel.

Yes, but the green too.

 

[palestine]

Beige or tan beret in the military are usually worn by elite special operations personnel.

Thank you!

For the record:

Session 27 January 1996

A: Jesus is one of us in "special service" sector.

Q: (L) Like a "green beret?"

A: No, more like a "beige beret."

Q: (L) What is a 'beige beret?'

A: Just our term.

C "used a term" - "their" term - so it's difficult for me to be conclusive here

 

[Thassa]

Hello,

I understood it as is, so a classification "type", bound to 6th density (so it's difficult to say if it has a meaning, symbolism).

Yes, true, the green berets. The "beret" may be an allusion to this. For reason yet unknown, the beige color seems associated, too. If you have any idea...

So I really don't know!

My guess.
Green beret reflects infiltration and disguise.
Beige beret reflects straightforward action.

Why?

Green berets are worn by the USA Army Special Forces, their focus is on non-conventional warfare and stealth actions. The green color matches that of jungles, where such warfare is more common.

The beige (also called tan) berets are worn by the USA Rangers, their specialty is direct combat. The beige colors matches that of the sand present in open terrain and deserts.

So, calling Jesus a beige beret agent might mean he presents himself in combat as he is. Instead of acting as a sly snake whose main asset is disguise (green beret).



Well, that's just my guess.

 

[Thassa]

Beige or tan beret in the military are usually worn by elite special operations personnel.

Actually, beige beret is worn by the USA Rangers.
Special Forces wear green beret.

 

[Thassa]

About Jack, the Ripper.
It was stated that he was ''dr. Bates'' and seemingly it was a sly allusion to the Psycho's movie character, Bates.
I guess the C's indicated Jack, the ripper was very similar to Bates in terms of personality, story, and appearance.


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After analysing the main suspects one in particular stands out: Dr. Francis Tumblety.
Well, he fits so well that I think answering Dr. Bates is the same as saying Dr. Francis.
Why?
1) Like Bates, he was American.
2) He was a quack doctor and his approach involved elixirs and surgical procedures (the C's told Jack, the Ripper was a mad surgeon)
3) He had a deep-seated hatred towards women (though many other suspects had similar mentality)
4) He was accused of having a collection preserved uteruses (a starking similarity to the taxidermy, which is about preserving animals)
5) Unlike Montague Druitt (another compelling suspect), his death was not by suicide.


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There is also George Chapman, whose similarity to Bates is weaker, but it's worthy mentioning him because he had been involved in healthcare; he had been an apprentice of a surgeon and practiced leech therapy. He worked as a doctor assistant, but he himself wasn't one. He was convicted for other murders, thus got death penalty (didn't commit suicide).

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According to the C's; Montague Druitt definety was not Jack, the Ripper; though he has some very compelling similarities, he had committed suicide, which coincided with the end of the murders. The C's stated that the killings did not stop because Jack, the Ripper committed suicide.

This detail alone is enough to dismiss Druitt,
but I thought for a while it was he due to these points:

1) He and his mom had depression disorder and several female relatives had committed suicide (That wasn't Bates' case, but it indicates some possible mother-son thing)
2) His father was a surgeon (though Montague was a schoolteacher)
3) He had committed suicide by drowing (Bates didn't, but he did sink a car in a lake to conceal proof)
4) He had written a note saying "I felt that I was going to be like mother, and the best thing for me was to die." (Going to be like mother, that's kinda eery similar to Bates, no?'')
5) Relatives suspectes he was Jack, the Ripper (that reminds me of Bates listening to his mom's voice at the end of the movie, where she claimed him to be dangerous)

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A side-note: Psycho's Bates was inspired by a real criminal: Ed Gein. So, drawing parallels between Ed Gein and Jack, the ripper might be useful as well.

 

[Nienna]

I didn't know they would give wrong answers on purpose just to respect beliefs. I rather reckoned that, in such cases, they would just refrain from answering.

@Thassa here is, in the C's own words why they gave those answers that they did to Laura:

Session 12 July 2014

Q: (L) Anything else anybody wants to ask about that before we change topics? Everybody here is waiting for the change of topic... Okay, I've been going over all of the early sessions, and I noticed that I had a particular obsession with the topic of Jesus during the first year at the very least, 1994, because of my particular religious upbringing and background and so forth. And I had a lot of energy invested in - not just a lot of energy, but a lot of emotion - so, I'm reading back over these previous answers we received on the topic of Jesus, and I would like to ask if, in fact, Julius Caesar is Jesus, or was the model for Jesus, why were you giving me answers that sometimes could have been applied to Caesar, but other times could not?

A: You would not have been able to receive. When you ask a question with strong prejudice, we cannot violate your will to believe.